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pathetic ass bullpen

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 16, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

i could really do without the booing

I may be beating a horse than was killed in the last thread, but geez. Relax.

by fogelmania on May 16, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

99% of the time I agree

but Gregg deserved it. That was putrid.

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad is putting it lightly

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good thing beer sales have ended

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on May 16, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

who?

some guy in the american league?

like I said, i don’t agree with booing 99% of the time

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is for Gregg...

….BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ditto

but this time, with feeeeeeling.
lol

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He never had a day like that.

Even in his worst game, the blister blown save vs. STL, he got 2 outs. And only gave up 3.

5 ER in 0 IP is unacceptable, even once.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not acceptable

but losing my mind over it doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

gregg has games when he sucks. today was one. we pulled out the win.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am polly anna with this team

That deserved to be booed. That was awful.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a booable offense

while still understanding closers will blow up like that from time to time.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 16, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we please

ship Heilman back to the Mets? He did such a fine job for them last year….

"One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth."

by jaxinnabox on May 16, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

They probably wouldn't take him unless we threw in Marmol.

He wore out some welcomes in the big apple.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

two down

please please please get out of it

by santo4hof on May 16, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's Kerry?

"One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth."

by jaxinnabox on May 16, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

In Cleveland, b/c of our gutless front office.

We can’t offer arbitration, because what if he accepts! We might owe $10M for 1 year to a local hero who had an awesome year last year for us in a position of great need, who remains remarkably tradeable!

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean...

… the guy in Cleveland with a 6.00 ERA and 13 hits and vie walks in 12.0 innings? That Kerry?

Get over it. He’s gone, and the Cubs don’t need him.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not nuts about this logic.

Cleveland has been a pretty crappy team, but Wood has only allowed runs in 4 of 13 appearances this year.

One of those was 1 run allowed in an opening day blowout loss;
Another of those was a Kerry Wood save;
and one of them was a 2-run blown save (his only blown save of the year), which the Indians wound up winning.

His only truly “bad” appearance was allowing a 3-run HR to Jason Bay in a 0-0 game to lose to the Red Sox a few weeks back.

But seriously, he’s been more good than bad. And even more seriously, the guy was a Cub from age 18 through age 32…. frankly, he is a Cub for life. He would and should be a Cub this year if our GM had only offered arbitration, and we shouldn’t be ragging on him as if he was some mercenary we used for half a season and cast off.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I loved Woody

but he’s not here anymore.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neither is Ernie Banks or Ryne Sandberg.

Would you have accepted throwing Ronnie Santo under the bus during his final half-season on the South Side?

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't alive then

I really have no idea.

But I don’t think saying “he’s not here anymore and he hasn’t torn it up in CLE” = throwing under the bus.

But whatever.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

BCB 1974

CubsToSeriesby70: Carmen Fanzone stinks! Why did we trade Santo again?

RickMondaysOtherWife: You mean that guy hitting .221 for the Sux? That Santo? He’s not a Cub anymore. Get over it. He’s gone and the Cubs don’t need him.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he is gone

I’m a Cub fan. And I wish Woody nothing but the best… but he is gone. I’d love if he weren’t… but he is. So you get over it.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watch it, bub...

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on May 16, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

What the hell happened???

It was 4-0, I did some laundry, now 4-4?? WTF?

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Never do laundry during a game!

That’s, like, one of those unwritten rules, right?

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

My dad always used to iron during Bulls playoff games

during the championship years in the 90s.

So you’ve gotta get the laundry done first and iron during the game.

by aldimond on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Gregg and Gee Heilman happened.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think your being

a little unfair on heilman.

he only gave up one single which was inside according to gameday.

by cubsfaninatl on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He also walked Bourn.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

My computer froze

I didn’t see the end of the last thread. Good thing, too, probably. Come on and lets end this before 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on May 16, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOO

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 16, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I can haz thurd out plz?

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Two balls to start

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

first pitch

BALL

no surprise there!

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

INNING OVER

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

WOOOOO

Marshall gets out of it!

by GoCubbies34 on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

yay

Soriano FTW

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

4-3

Bleeding over.

C’mon Bobby! Finish this off in style!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

They double switched marshall wont be up will he?

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah

Thats what i get for only sort paying attention during the switch

by Allie on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a double switch

Miles hitting 9th now, Scales moved to 3B

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Marshall batting.

In the last meltdown remotely equal to this — last year’s “first Harden game, Marmol blows 7 run lead” game, Marshall got the GW RBI when no one else could hit.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you Marshall.

Can we please end this now? Please?

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

PS

Lou: Marshall is your best Long Inning chance in case this doesn’t end. Don’t pinch hit for him.

k? Thanks.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

'Twas a double switch.

Marshall is in the 7 slot I think.

by aldimond on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally!

Let’s win this!

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

ouch

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?!

poor guy

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn't even mad at Gregg

he was incredulous. Not a lot of moaning… just a lot of heavy breathing.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Randy Wells just got screwed!

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Ayup

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Screwd?

I think he just got the 5 spot in the rotation

by plenz on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's earned that and a W

He’ll get 1 out of 2

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

sori walkoff

Lou………………looks soooooo happy!

by plenz on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Whew

1st & 2nd with no outs and they didn’t score any more.

It could be worse…..

by salparadise23 on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...

Heilman gave up a walk and a hit and got 2 outs. Not great but not terrible. I put it mostly on Gregg here

by gizmo6d9 on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No more outs....

JUST END IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on May 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

On the bright side...

LaTroy Hawkins in to pitch.

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Now THAT MF owes us!

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Patton, too

Ascanio

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

In Gregg's defense

this is only his second blown save all year. its going to happen.

by CubsFan87 on May 16, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

b/c they’ve never scored a run, ever.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

how's it a blown save when it was never a save situation?

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by sanantonecub on May 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It sure ain't a hold

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but

It takes a special talent to make a game that wasn’t a save situation into one in which you can blow a save

by Hilary Lee on May 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

but a 4 run lead blown the way he blew it is a bitter pill

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice try

but that outing couldn’t have been more disastrous.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't a blown save, he came in 4 runs up

Also, he’s just not lights out. He can’t be counted on to win with a lead in the ninth. That is troubling.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I always thought. His stuff doesn't appear to be as good as it should be for a closer.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

So if he shuts it down in the ninth

eight or nine times in a row, then blows it once, that means he can’t be counted on in the ninth?

Odd logic, that.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 16, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That does not happen.

5 earned on no outs? That happens to one highly paid MLB closer maybe one time a season.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 earned - sorry

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

From your keyboard

to God’s ear’s.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hitter's count here

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Hacked and missed :/

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scales walks!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Man...

A Bobby Scales HR would have made the top of the inning completely worth it… Oh well.. turn the walk into a winner!

by gizmo6d9 on May 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Pepe LePew bunting

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

B. Scales Run Mfg Inc.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh I am giddy

I just realized I have Marshall occupying my SP slot today because I thought he might start! Free reliever! YEY!

by Hilary Lee on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

NO BUNT PLEASE

i want sori hitting

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I am partly to blame

My baseball hating best friend is coming over and politely inquired how the Cubs were going. It was bottom of the 8th so I said they were winning and it would all be over soon with an easy win.
OVER 35 years of being a fan and I NEVER LEARN. NO LEAD IS SAFE. NEVER EVER.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Awwww.

I know what you mean. I think we’re all guilty this time though.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm only 24

and I learned that when I was 10. No lead is safe.

by gizmo6d9 on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah - it was the guy in the last thread who said 4 runs cinched it.

We all learned something today.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Happens to all of us

baseball keeps teaching me things I should already know.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got him over

Sori won’t be bunting

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Execution!

on the sac bunt!

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by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Scales at 2nd?

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

up to riot and dome

argh

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on May 16, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm?

Miles bunted. Sori is up.

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by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good job AM!!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's where we could use ARam

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

ARam has never batted leadoff

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's swinging and missing

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

giving up outs

does anyone else agree with the giving up an out theory?
I mean, who is to say Miles (I know, its Miles) doesn’t come up with a single or double? Now we’ve GIVEN up an out.

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Talk to Billy Beane

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least it wasn't a DP, and a runner is in scoring position!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure did work.

I’ll take it!!

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame myself...

Gregg was becoming stable and i needed a RP and I picked him up. Ugh!

by gizmo6d9 on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

BASE HIT!

CUBS WIN

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Sori singles!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

SCALES AND SORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

woo!

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs win!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

WIN WIN WIN

i’m bouncing in my seat!!!!!

by Emelie on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

YAY!

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Single to RF

Throw home airmails the catcher! CUBS WIN!

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by hip2bsquare on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

No, you're still banished.

(kidding)

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only Kevin Gregg shall be banished

You’re still welcome round these parts.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on May 16, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

bwwwwaaahahahah

fly it!!!!!!

SORI FTW

scales!!!!

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

WELL DONE GENTS!!!!!

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I love Bobby Scales!

He never hesitated!

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

WHEW!!!!!!

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 16, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

trying to find a reason

for him to be so shockingly horrible.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

To this day I stick by the theory that....

closers in non-closing situations suck. They need the rush. THey need the energy. They want to pad that save total. He has been in with a 4 run lead or more in the ninth, the last 3 out of 4 times. Closers hate that.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 16, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks LaTroy!

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

CUBS WIN!! CUBS WIN!! CUBS WIN!!

FLY IT!!!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Bobby Scales....

…. is a keeper!

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Fly it!!!!!!

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you!!!

Still my fav. :)

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

A good throw by Pence gets Scales by about 12 feet.

But, I’ll take it!!!!!!!!!!!

by salparadise23 on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

forcing him to make that throw

is the right move. a right-handed thrower running to his left…that is a hard to play to make

by murphymj on May 16, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Pence is terrible on D

I’d challenge him 10 out of 10 times in that situation.

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Wells

He deserved the W but then so does Marshall for when they took him out in games with leads blown
by the bullpen.

Cards lost of course.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes but

I really am troubled by the way he said “Hopefully we play like this again…” Uhm, with the exception of Gregg, please.

by Hilary Lee on May 16, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Hi Milton!!!

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love that MLB teams keep doing this with LaTroy.

This is the 4th MLB team to make the same mistake — “LaTroy is pitching some great 8th innings for us! Let’s make him the 9th inning guy!”

LaTroy Hawkins is living, breathing proof that actual closers have value, and that some pitchers, while effective in other situations, cannot pitch in the 9th.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice to see him win a game for us for a change.

Marshall picks up the W, right?

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol.

He owes us a few more of those…

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Marshall gets the make-up win

This one makes up for the time he went 7 innings of 1 ER ball and Heilman gave up, what, 7 earned?

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

5 ER, I think

That game was on my birthday. :(

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on May 16, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess.

Still feel bad for Wells though.

Hope he’s got 6 more scoreless innings in him. Kid deserves a win.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the second straight game...

…where the bullpen gave his first ML win away

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

That is totally unacceptable.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heilman should buy him a drink!

He’s been involved in both games

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where's dtpollitt?

He needs to post his picture of the walkoff celebration!

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I should get a Scales jersey. Maybe Clutche has one for me :-)

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd be down for a scales jersey.

That kid rocks.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol.

Wouldn’t that be a story. ;)

But nah…just a great utility guy with a killer attitude.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would too.

Honestly, if I were them I’d make one. It’s a great story, it’s gone national, I think people would buy it.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

How loud were the boos for Gregg?

I didn’t have the game on TV

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

GOOD!

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

if radio is any indication

they were LOUD

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deafening.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically true.

He came in less than 4 down, and didn’t win.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

but weren't all the runs credited to gregg?

seems like gregg should be at fault for getting into that mess to begin with.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it matters who the runs were credited to in the case of a save.

It matters that they came in at all. Hence the blown save goes to Heilman, not Gregg.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs Win, and I missed the fkin game AUGH@@@

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 16, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

be glad you missed the 9th.

it wasn’t pretty on gameday… can’t imagine watching it.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't mn\iss much.

We blew a 4-0 lead in the ninth, but won on a walkoff RBI single by Soriano.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't miss much*

Typo central up there.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was great. Until the top of the 9th.

The bottom of the 9th was just a relief.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Drew, so someone's gotta say it: Alfonso Soriano has

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

:)

Thank God.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's just keep that little fact to ourselves

Don’t tell LaTroy.

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou's Post-Game Presser

starts by praising Wells: “He’s pitched 2 great games, and he doesn’t have a win yet. But if he continues to pitch like that, he’s gonna get a bunch of wins.”

Gregg: “In his defense he hadn’t pitched in a while. He needed to pitch even if the score had been 8 to nothing.”

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

He also addressed getting into it with a fan

anybody see what happened?

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 16, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

what did he say?

I only saw the tail end when he came back into the dugout.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He defended Gregg’s performance?! Are you F’in Kidding me, Lou?

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's he gonna do? Throw his closer under the bus?

Not gonna happen.

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

The manager defends his players in public and lights a fire under them in private.

by aldimond on May 16, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

And since Danny-boy's absent

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

look at you

on the ball!!

that picture makes me realize how much I miss Rami.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that Sori hops for things other than fly balls

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

<3 Rami.

He’ll be back. Just in time for the second half.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so

I’ve had the shoulder injury he had. Or something close. And I didn’t respond to rehab and had to have surgery. And took me about a year to get back to “normal”.

So I’m nervous.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

ARam had surgery?

How’d I miss that?

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

he’s going through rehab.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

YAY! :)

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on May 16, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely works today.

Walk-off win.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the confrontation with the fan

“He didn’t like the fact I kept Gregg in there. I told him to enjoy the game and let me manage it… with a few stronger words.”

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 16, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good for Lou...

Gregg obviously had an off day, it happens.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmay!

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on May 16, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goodie!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miss ya brougham!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You too, man.

This was a fun game to watch. Gotta love the early starts. I wasn’t too nervous about this one. I called it during Gregg’s tee-ball fest. This team is starting to bring my faith back around.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on May 16, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quite prescient!

I wasn’t too nervous about this one either. A lot of fans need to realize that Lou knows what he’s doing. I’m glad that Lou gave that know-it-all behind the dugout the “what’s for” near the end of the game. Some of these fans need to remember that our manager is Lou freakin’ Piniella for goodness sake.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do the Cubs expect to win down the stretch...

…or in October, for that matter, with these clowns in the bullpen?

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

They'll probably make a deal for better clowns before the trade deadline.

Well, I hope so, at least.

"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman

by hip2bsquare on May 16, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marmol looked lights out today!

Struck out the side in the 8th

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 16, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guz did his job in the 7th, as well.

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, let's keep him

But who can we make deals for?

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

This game

Was very similar to this game. Played out in similar fashion, and Soriano also came through in that one..

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

If there were *ever* a time for official scorer intervention, that was it.

Giving Howry that win was obnoxious. He allowed both inherited runners to score, and tacked on 3 more earned runs of his own!

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

All right, y'all

Bit of a nail-biter there, but a W is a W. I’m gonna head to East Atlanta and get my drink on.

Go Cubs!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Later!

I’m off too. Going to play ball with the pup outside.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

c-ya girl...

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaaand we're back

sanantone was whereing my appetite, so I found a joint that serves Chimay. Tasty!

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

*whetting

Stupid phone.

"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 16, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's keep in mind that Lou made the right managerial moves in the bottom of the 9th...

AND THAT THE CUBS WON THIS GAME!

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok but the ones in the top of the 9th are suspect.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 16, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gregg had an off day, what are ya gonna do?

And three good hitters for the Astros started the mess in the first place. What, ya think Fat Elvis, El Cabao, and Miggy are gonna be held down all day? I know you don’t like Lou though, so I’m not surprised you feel this way…

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm heading out too.

Going to meet the parents for dinner and “Angels and Demons.” Anyone got a review for me?

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

c-ya vermont...

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on May 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chi Trib

said it was Hank’s worst role ever and gave it 1 1/2 stars.

by Allie on May 16, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trib says "one of the most tedious and boring movies of all time."

I’m sure it’s not that bad.

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by D98 on May 16, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Trib is always

Really a downer on summer movies

by Hilary Lee on May 16, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Excuse yourself for a bathroom break and go to Star Trek instead.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on May 16, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that’s really more of a plan than a review, but I stand by it.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on May 16, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice try

I’ve already seen Star Trek

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 16, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davinci code was pretty bad

so I suspect that A&D isn’t any better.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu

by propheteer on May 16, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coming in late

It’s pretty amusing to see Gregg give up 4 runs and no outs recorded, while Heilman gets the blown save for giving up no runs.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu

by propheteer on May 16, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

The oddities of baseball.

Also, Marshall gets the make-up win for his scratched start yesterday, and he only got one out.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on May 16, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

cubs

the cubs cant always make it look it easy. we all know that. but gregg was disgracefull. i hope lou does not stick with this guy through thick and thin.

by NOMAR on May 16, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I still wonder

if Lou isn’t punishing Marmol for going to the WBC instead of staying home like Lou wanted him too. I like Marmol as a closer. (Or more precisely, I like Marmol better than Gregg as our closer).

"One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth."

by jaxinnabox on May 16, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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