The Mets are in need of a first baseman (mlbtr.com)
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 16, 2009 7:22 PM CDT
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PrintAny chance we could trade Derrek Lee for some bullpen help and and some prospects? Maybe we could get Feliciano and another, along with some prospects or cash considerations for Lee. I realize Lee has been a great player for the Cubs, but if you look at his stats, he's definitely passed his prime. 2005 was his last great season, and though I think he's still capable, a trade to a big market team like the Mets could really free up some salary room for the Cubs to make a big trade at the deadline. Lee is by far a superior defensive player when compared to Hoffpauir, but when you look at their stats this year, Lee has 33 more ABs, a lower average by almost a 100pts, 11 more strikeouts, 2 more homeruns and they have the same number of RBIs. Thoughts?
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No. There is no chance.
Thanks for asking. Have a nice day.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
DLee
He has a no trade clause and then on top of that why would a team take a player who is obviously declining?
It would be more likely for us to trade them Hoffpauir, not that thats happening but thats about 1000 times more likely.
How about no way
With Lee hovering just south of .200 through a month and a half, we need Hoff’s bat now more than ever.
I’m certainly not eager to trade a contributor like Hoffpauir and then hope that Jake Fox can replicate what Hoff is already doing.
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I see us consistently...
trying to get Lee back into form. We’re far too committed to Lee, right or wrong, so Hoff will be a bit player no matter how he plays.
Free Ronny Cedeno
At this point
Fox is just as at least as likely to produce as well or better than Hoffpauir going forward. Hoffpauir has not proved that he will be a consistent ML contributor.
The idea that so many people have that Hoff is a sure thing is dizzying. I can understand hoping for it, rooting for it, etc. But being certain about it?
Derrek Lee is good.
Not only does he have a no trade clause
but he’s a 10-5 player and has automatic no-trade protection.
by Josh Timmers on May 16, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, hes been here five years already?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Yeah I was surprised at how quickly its gone by
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Here we go
…fantasy baseball strikes again….
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 16, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for the above comments.
Summary:
1) D-Lee isn’t playing well right now. Why would a team want that?
2) D-Lee has (approximately) $20 million left on his contract. Why would a team want that?
3) D-Lee has a full no-trade clause. He’s not going anywhere.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al Yellon on May 16, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+25
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
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OK I give up
Is that a mover reference ?
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by Doggie Stalker on May 16, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's missing some key elements.
What happened to the watch after Bruce Willis’ dad was shot down over Hanoi?
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Ok been a while see I have seen it
It is of course one of the many films which pays homage to KISS ME DEALY ( my favorite film).
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 16, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
PULP FICTION
F TH WORLD
FOR THE WIN
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Unlikely but...
I just went through their minor league roster and I don’t see to much there: Mike Lamb & Willy Mo Pena are the only ones I see with Major League experience, that I can remember at least. I am sure that they have many more but I wasn’t that interested in looking each guy up. What as it was stated before D-Lee has a no trade clause and he isn’t at his best right now. So I don’t think they would take D-Lee and personally I would love to see him turn it around and take the Cubbies to WS.
The sun will shine in '69
Man has
a group of fans given up on Lee? I for one have not. I believe by years end he will be his career norms in all areas. Are we this spoiled as Cub fans? We can’t accept a FB that will give you 20 HR + 80 rbi’s and a .290 ba, While playing a solid firstbase.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
You're pretty optimistic about D-Lee.
What would it take for Lee to wind up at .290 at this point? He’s already posted a .194 average through 111 AB – even if he gets to 600 AB, which I think is somewhat unlikely, he’d have to start hitting at a .315-ish clip, more or less immediately.
That being said, when was the last time he put up even an .800 OPS in a given month? Lee had a great April last year, followed by 5 straight months of “pretty bad”.
And yes, we as Cubs fans should expect a whole heck of a lot more than a 1B who puts up a .290-20-80 line, especially if said 1B is making eight figures. The Cubs are a big-market team, and 1B is an offense-related position.
Finally, you are right, D-Lee’s offensive decline has been discussed ad nauseum on this site. Especially during this past offseason. But holy mackerel has he lived up to his “D-Lee is in decline” billing so far this year. It really sucks to see, but whether it’s age or nagging injuries, the guy hasn’t gotten it done so far at all.
If there was a window to possibly trade D-Lee, that window was last offseason.
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by D98 on May 16, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Judas Priest
No Trade Clause
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
So you're saying this intrepid Fanposter has another thing comin'?
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
DLee is this years Delgado
Carlos Delgado was playing horrible for the Mets. NY fans treated him like garbage. Thankfully they haven’t done that to Derrek yet.
Delgado turned around and had a monster season and I fully expect Derrek to do the same.
There are lots of reasons why.
Assuming that we’re talking about last offseason, with plenty of replacements on the board. Now that it’s mid-May, Lee’s value has plummeted, and the benefits of trading him have more or less evaporated.
There are even fewer reasons why the Mets would want to trade for him.
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from what i understand...
..it is because he’s had a pretty crappy 6 weeks and THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THAT HE WILL TURN IT AROUND BECAUSE HE SUDDENLY SUCKS AT BASEBALL AND HE WILL NEVER GET BETTER!!! . Just put him on the 15 day, let him rest the neck, and platoon fox and hoff for a couple weeks. Reevaluate after Lee has some time off and then plays for a couple weeks.
damn
my sarcasm tag didn’t work….i always forget about that. anyway, the CAPS was sarcasm.
No one is blaming Lee for his injuries.
But if the neck was a problem last year, and it’s still a problem this year, then I doubt 2 weeks on the DL is going to do a whole heck of a lot to heal it up.
The Cubs need Lee to contribute — and they’re lucky as heck that Hoffpauir is picking up the slack offensively at 1B.
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Don't you get it?
The Cubs have to have an All-Star at EVERY POSITION. If they don’t, off ’em.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
There's no winning this argument, is there.
Before the season, some said that D-Lee appeared to be in decline and that the Cubs should try to move him. That was, of course, tantamount to treason around here, and was shouted down.
If Lee had been awesome to start the year, you get to claim victory.
He’s been awful, so you get to use sarcasm and call the other guy unreasonable because Lee isn’t an “All-Star” and anyone who suggests that Lee is disappointing or in serious decline wants nothing less than an AS at every position.
The problem isn’t that Lee is not an All-Star… the problem is that he’s hitting .198 or so after 111 plate appearances, with little to no power.
I’m not in favor of trading Lee at this point, either – and not just because it’s a practical impossibility — but because the Cubs would get next to nothing for him, would have to eat a ton of his salary, and because there’s no obvious replacement available.
The only remaining reasonable course of action is to stay the course, spell Lee as often as possible with Hoffpauir, and hope that Lee heals up or regains his mojo at some point.
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by D98 on May 17, 2009 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s been awful
No, he’s been injured.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 17, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
He's been awfully injured
is that better? He’s also been awful when he’s played, and I think none of us know whether thats because of injuries he’s playing through, or because of a decline.
But seriously, take the passion out of it. Can we all agree that he’s a classy guy, a hard worker, a team leader, and all-in-all the kind of player we WANT to succeed not only this year but for the next 5-8 years as well. Can we agree on that?
Ok, great. Now, the issue at hand is: can that player who we are all cheering so hard for, deliver enough offense on a regular basis to justify staying in the starting lineup (and the 3 or 4 hole) for the next month? The answer right now is pretty clearly no. Lets say you’re right that its because of an injury. So what? This isn’t about blame. It isn’t about saying he’s a failure or some such nonsense. Its just about asking the question “what lineup lets us win the most games,” and being honest with yourself about the answer. Right now, Lee should be in the lineup maybe 3 out of 5 games, and should bat 6th until he gets out of his funk or gets healthy or does whatever he needs to do to be an effective bat.
by Orval Overall on May 17, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yesterday
he got four hits, including a HR.
And ANY sample for this year for Lee is going to be a small sample size.
He’s been injured. I’ve got no problem batting him lower in the order, but even INJURED, he’s a better 1st baseman than Hoffpauir.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
To the same effect really.
If his performance is directly related to his bulging disc, why is he playing? If he were putting up solid numbers we wouldn’t have this debate. However, it seems obvious there is a direct relation between the two, and he should be put on the DL to recover. Put in the guys that can produce.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 17, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
funny
I distinctly remember him not only driving in the first run yesterday, but making a few amazing plays at first.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 17, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Even Jose Macias drove in runs from time to time.
Speaking of Macias… Lee has a lower OPS this year than the career OPS of Macias. Macias, of course, was a terrible backup middle infielder while Derrek is a starting first baseman. Pretty pathetic, isn’t it?
you're comparing two things that aren't comparable.
Macias was not good over the course of his career.
Lee is battling injuries.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 17, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
good, then he should get better when he heals.
But if playing while battling injuries means he will continue to hit .190, and perhaps delay his recovery, what possible justification is there for allowing him to continue “battling injuries”?
Benching a .300 hitter with power so that another guy can “battle injuries” and do much worse, is the kind of logic I just can’t understand no matter how hard I try. Again, I don’t blame Lee for struggling with injuries. Its part of the game. I also don’t think it makes any sense at all to say that just because he has a reason for failure, that means its smart to let him continue to fail for the same reason.
by Orval Overall on May 17, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
you can't
get back into the groove without facing MLB pitching. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand.
Micah Hoffpauir is a great story. But he’s not Derrek Lee.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
That's not important.
Whether it’s batting injuries or not, Derrek Lee sucks right now. And it’s ludicrous to just assume that he’ll magically become a good hitter again.
I agree
If he truly is injured he needs to go on the DL. Lets let Micah start at first and either bring up Fox to back him up, or bring up Waddell from Iowa and try and figure out this bullpen. Playing injured can not help a team, and I believe if he were putting up these numbers, and it was the post season, he’d have to be benched in favor of Hoffpauir. He’s being favored only because he’s the veteran.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 17, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, those 4 hits today really sucked
I don’t get all the Lee angst. He had some goot swings early in the year, had a great first homestand and then had some health trouble. It’s not like he’s been back for three weeks since having the neck issue and gotten an 0-for.
His career statistics suggest that he deserves a chance to work himself out of the funk that he’s been in.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 17, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Those 4 hits today
are definitely a good sign. Hopefully he is back on track. He had 100 AB’s when this was posted, I think thats a pretty good sample size for a veteran player. I hope I’m wrong, I was just suggesting that he might be of interest to another ballclub which could free us up some salary to make a big deal at the deadline.
Maybe he read this post and it fired him up.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 17, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
My response wasn't directed at you
And the angst has been going on all season — even during that .381 homestand in April.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 17, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
it seems that there is a line so to speak
either you support Lee or you support Hoff. Very few seem to be wiling to support both no matter what.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
There are a lot of lines around here lately
There are some that ridicule/blast anyone for making any kind of critical comments about anyone associated with the Cubs and others that ridicule people for finding positives.
Hoffpauir is a very good hitter and I’m glad the Cubs have him. I’m not ready to give up on Lee.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 17, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
BCb is getting too big and in the process cutting its own throat it seems
and it is sad. people are no longer allowed their own opinion, and are attacked for nto agreeing. People have decided that a certain player sucks, and refuse to hear anything positive, and God forbid you make a post about somethign you think might be a good topic and any one person doesnt think it should have been a topic of discussion.
Everyone here needs to cool their jets a tad, and relax. none of us are baseball experts or we would be working for MLB instead of on a blog talking about it. All of us have knowledge as well that we can share, and should respect each other for their contribution.
I am not saying to to anyone person (and am not directing it to Badger, just happened to be a good place to follow up a reply on the topic).
Until people remember this is a place to discuss, not a place to attack or act like you know everything, this site wil continue to swallow itself and lost a lot of respect from others.
Hoffpauier is not a horrible first baseman, Miles is not the worst player since Neifi, Lee is not done. I coudl list more players who are being bashed or held up to the clouds as the greatest ever, but that could get redundant fast.
I hope people truly cool off and stop the bashing of posters which is not needed.
The only line that should be drawn is Cubs Fans pulling for victory together, with 29 other teams on the other side of the line against us.
end rant
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I support both
I think both have roles to play.
Lee’s role is to be the starting 1st Baseman and an offensive force on the team.
Hoffpauir’s role is to be the backup 1st Baseman and a big bat off the bench.
I don’t think you can put Lee in Hoffpauir’s role, and I think it’s a HUGE mistake to put Hofpauir in Lee’s role.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
how'd he do yesterday?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
Dempster drove got his first two hits of the season on Thursday and also drove in a run, does that mean he should bat more often? Everybody has good days. Even Soriano made a diving catch in LF the other day and we all know he isn’t the greatest outfielder. Lee’s defense may save a run or two, but he can’t produce at the plate. And at a time where A-ram is injured, and Gameboard, Fonenot and Soto haven’t gotten on track yet, we need a guy in there who can hit the ball and drive in runs. Hoff is that guy.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 17, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano
is the best LF in the league.
Lee got 4 hits yesterday, including a HR. You may want to revisit the statement
but he can’t produce at the plate
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Rather
He hasn’t been producing at the plate. Until I posted this, he hadn’t been. Hopefully its a sign of things to come. We all know he can produce, and hopefully the nagging injury won’t keep him from producing.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 18, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
the point is
you don’t want to pull the trigger too early or too late. Closing the book on Lee on May 16th after he’s been out several days due to an injury is WAY too early.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you
But if Lee continues to play how he has thus far (granted, he is starting to pick it up), and Delgado doesn’t come back for the Mets and they can’t find a suitable replacement in their system, it might make for interesting trade talks.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 18, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it won't.
Jim Hendry will say “Derrek, you don’t want to go to the Mets, do you?”
And Lee will say “F@CK NO!”
And that will be that.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 17, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions
Whats more ridiculous
I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous. The butt kissing of Hoffpauir or the love affair with Kyle Orton?
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
Just by looking at this years numbers
Hoff has been the better player. Lee is obviously on the decline (despite todays performance) and I think Hoff should get more ABs. In love with him I am not, I just think he’s performing well and deserves more playing time.
BTW, Orton sucks.
Andy R.
by WindisBlowingOut! on May 17, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Strongly
disagree. Hoffpauir may be having better luck at the plate lately, but he is NOT a better player than Lee. If he were, he would have been traded.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I know of at least 5 people that want Micah Hoffpauir to start over Derrek Lee. The 5 other managers in the NL central.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
prime example
of the “love hoff or love lee, no middle ground” around here.
HJoff ahs out performed Lee this season so far, Lee has had a better career.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I agree that a trade of DLee is HIGHLY unlikely.
And, quite frankly, I don’t have a problem with the Cubs giving him every opportunity to get back on track. He had an awful, injury-plagued April. But look at his OPS so far in May – 1.062. Right now, I’m more concerned with getting more consistent production from Milton, somehow keeping Theriot from flaming out at SS and figuring out the bullpen.
If you REALLY want to some interesting feedback on a DLee to Mets trade. Perhaps post this over at the SBN Mets blog.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Lee/Hoff
is a great problem to have. We have two who can play 1B and both have been productive this season. Lee got off slow, but Hoff helped us stay in the hunt in Lee’s place. I believe we need both at this point to continue to be successful as a team this season.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
IGWTC.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Please define.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I 'Gree With This Comment
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
OKIC
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
OOU
OOU!
OOU!
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
YGRN
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 18, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
YGRN??
I hope that is not
You Guys Run Naked
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
we'll never tell
TEE-HEE!!
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
try You Guys Are Nuts!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 18, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
dare I ask about
OOU or BLURG
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
If only
IF only Soriano wasn’t such a complete disaster at 2nd base. I did hear a report that he is taking ground ballls at 2nd in warmups to see if he could handle it. If he wasn’t he could play 2nd while Hoff played right (fontenot over to 3rd) with Ramirez gone.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
Oops
Meant Hoff play left.
Another reason we need Lee at first is me and you and a dog named Boo are playing 3rd right now and we need Lee to be at first to catch what are bound to be some interesting throws.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on May 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
My only fear is
that the third base trio might have Lee making a catch or thirty that have a negative turn on his neck. It is a 6 of one, half a dozen of the other situation no doubt.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
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