Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Astros, Sunday 5/17, 1:20 CT
by Al Yellon on May 17, 2009 3:15 PM CDT
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I can't believe we've only scored 3 runs off Brian Moehler.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money."
--Ernie Banks
Just not this inning.
We’ll get ’em in the 7th.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
yup
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on May 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
it's Detroit
nuff said
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by Gibbon Jockey on May 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he is talking about
how bad the economy is affecting them
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Hawks just killed a power play.
1-1 with 14 min. to go in the 2nd. 22-10 Shots on goal in favor of the Wings.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
That was noe quick half inning...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
Wings 0-2 on the power play today...
They’ve only failed on 2 power plays all postseason so nice PK Hawks!
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on May 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
THey are still
getting outshot 10-22, that isnt pretty
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Yea not a lot of opportunities so far
but they just got pretty damn close!
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on May 17, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
they’ve only failed to convert twice in the whole playoffs
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on May 17, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Bourne hit by pitch
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Boy, that looked like it hurt.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well why did he put Ascanio in here anyway ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Back to the minors for this rummy!!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
Yep, you get one shot
and you’re done. Good thing you aren’t managing.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He's just setting up the next batter.
Yeah, right.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions
Asciano needs to pitch strikes!
Guze up in the pen
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Basehit
Matsui scores, 1st and 3rd no outs
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Wild pitch
Run scores
Booing starts at wrigley
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
What the...
I go to the bathroom, come back, and we’ve hit two, both of whom score?!
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
Get him out of there. Jesus.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
Great job, Lou
Leave him till the bases are cleared!!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
looks like he's just holding onto the ball too hard
"I'm like the tide baby: I come and go as I please." --Johnny Drama
It's gorgeous day... feeling a little guilty about being inside
but I’m still unpacking so I have an excuse
Ascanio got an out!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Berkman thrown out stealing 3rd
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Berkman
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
berkman gunner at third
nice throw
"I'm like the tide baby: I come and go as I please." --Johnny Drama
From what I saw today, they must be scared of getting hit by our bullpen.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on May 17, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really the bullpen is not that bad
and why the F)(*^%^% wasn’t Guzman in there. He threw 10 pitches yesterday , his first appearance in 3 games and tomorrow is a day off. Guys like Ascanio should be used in mop up situations until you know what they have.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
not bad eh?
did you see our “closer” yesterday?
Did you see the Astros help us today?
First pitch is always a ball.
I believe the bullpen leads the league in Walks as well.
Drive, Monkey Drive!
they are not that good
however, I do see hope.
Guzman has electric stuff
Marmol is coming around
Wells and Marshall are both serviceable as long relief
Drive, Monkey Drive!
It's a mixed bag
The good: Guzman, Marmol, Marshall,* Wells
The meh: Heilman, Gregg
The bad: Cotts, Ascanio, Patton
The good is awesome, obviously, the problem is more than half the guys we have up there aren’t good at all/inspire no confidence. Does anyone here cheer when Patton is up?
We need another solid arm.
*Marshall is starred because I can’t figure out if his long term plan is pen or rotation.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
Too early on Ascanio
Though I would be inclined to send him down and keep Wells. I think Cotts should be released. I can’t see any value there.
Point is in THIS game Lou had a MUCH better option for the 7th ( Guzman) and didn’t take it. When you have to get someone in earlier or on less rest it is harder but today was in my opinion a mistake,
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You never know until you try
I believe Lou used Ascanio in a low-stress situation earlier. He probably wanted to see what he could do in a closer game.
And he has to keep an eye on Guzman, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He was used once in mop up
I think you need a little more than that to check guy out and again you so clearly had a good rested pitcher for the
situation so it seems a bad move to me.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The point is HOW you use the bullpen
Heilman is LONG relief and he gets rushed in to get out of some jam and get a batter out. Marmol is often used till his arm falls off
and guys who should be used in mop up ( Cotts Ascanio) until they prove reliable are thrown in to crucial situations.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
all valid points
until the bullpen is used right, it is not that good.
Cotts has not stepped up yet, and it is mid May.
I agree, Marmol is leaned on heavily, but when he is the most reliable, what are you going to do? Run Gregg out there?
Drive, Monkey Drive!
gregg said yesterday
It wasn’t a save situation. So that means he can go in and stink it up?
Drive, Monkey Drive!
That annoyed me so much.
Not a save situation, so you’ll try to lose the game? That makes as much sense as “clogging the bases.”
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
He did have a good line though
“I think I could have hit myself today.”
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no clue what Lance was thinking.
Way to help us out. Major brain fart.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
I especially like the fact that Berkman got gunned down.
I don’t like that guy.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Ronnie singing the stretch :)
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Thank God that's over.
Let’s get some runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*PS Santo should always sing the stretch.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
Its not pretty
But god you gotta love him
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Harry's wasn't pretty either.
But it was just good and baseballesque.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
I love Ronnie as a third baseman, announcer and a Cubs fan.
And as a future HOF’er, one day.
As a singer, maybe not so much.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
anything is better than Denise Richards
i’m still having nightmares… man she’s tone deaf
If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
another bang up job by the bullpen
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
There is an obvious hole there.
I really hope Hendry’s working on it.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
I'm thinking
he’s going to see what he has in the minors before he makes any sort of deals.
Once Zambrano comes back, presumably Wells goes to the pen. That’ll help. I suspect Stevens will get a couple of shots, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That's true.
I am just really frustrated by the Pen this year, and am getting nervous. We’re (going to be) 6 games over .500 after this and have to do something or we could very well wind up 3rd behind the Cards/Brew Crew.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
Soriano needs to spark this offense here
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Sori gorunds out to Blum
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Theriot grounds out to Matsui
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Kosuke grounds out too
Wow, this offense is not looking good today, I might just watch the hawks game.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
This Twins-Yankees series could be the most heartbreaking sweep ever.
Extras again today.
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Yeah, the Twins
have lost a couple of gut-wrenchers so far.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
And they just lost another one
3-2 Yankees. Damon walk-off homer.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
i hate all losses, but this one would be especially sour
considering how stupid everything about Ascanio and the decision to put him in was
A 4-1 homestand
would be just fine by me. But this game isn’t quite over yet.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention only scoring three runs on the awful Brian Moeller.
After the first two runs scored the Cubs had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no out and failed to tack on any extra runs. Today is not just on the pitching.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on May 17, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If any team ever needed an additional position player, it's this one.
The Cubs have two utility players who can’t play 3B, one of whom also can’t play SS. They have their star 3B out, and a backup 3B who was previously the starting 2B.
If the choice is really down to “Ascanio on the roster” vs. “true backup SS on the roster”, it should be a pretty easy decision.
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I don't disagree with you, there really isn't a backup at short.
I don’t have a problem with them giving Ascanio a look now because they need to find out if he can help them later on. I also think overall they’ve weathered Aramis’ loss pretty well.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on May 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure - but you can't leave yourself in a "Fukudome at SS/Koyie at 3B situation"
The roster imbalance is made worse by the fact that Fontenot is basically taking an o-fer the season against lefties, and Lou can’t really do anything about it.
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Hunter Pence got "depantsed" on tht pitch.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
We still have Hoffpauir on the bench, if the situation arises.
Of course, that means that the bullpen needs to avoid this turning into a blowout, which is more or less a 50-50 shot at this point.
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HOLY SMOKES
DId you see that replay of the skate on Burrish’s neck!!!
good god
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Wings just scored. 2-1 Wings.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
HAWKS on the ropes here
gotta survive
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by Gibbon Jockey on May 17, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Ascaino looked good there this inning.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
One inning late but maybe he can help down the road.
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
D,. lee singles!
3 hits today for him
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Hope the game goes long enough
for him to get it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
some positive news indeed!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Soto gets a single
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Soto passes Fontenot on the AVG big board.
Those guys are headed in opposite directions at the moment.
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The worst thing if we lose this game
is that Blou will reappear and tell us why the Cubs suck and will never win another game.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Funny how the vampires
only come out at night.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 17, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Blou will NOT come and gloat
I forgot his can’t miss savior of the Cubs, Harden did not pitch lights out.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Just consider the source. And there's plenty of rally time. Have faith brother!
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
Sister but I do have faith
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
my apologies.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
no problem
“doggie stalker” is a gender neutral name.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 17, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Odd pitching change.
Don’t they have a lefty to face Fontenot?
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FC. Still first and second. Now two outs. Scales up.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Yeah. That's what I thought, but then WGN had the peeps on 1st and 2nd so I changed it.
My bad, I guess, for depending on WGN.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I hope Fonty can come through, but why not Hoff here?
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Well, never mind. Point stands. Why not Hoff to bat for Fontenot?
Two men on in the 8th last chance for a big hit possibly – then you bring in Miles at 2B and move Scales to 3B.
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you just answered your own question.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Given the offensive upgrade, it's worth Scales at 3B.
Fontenot is going on 2 weeks with 1 hit to show for it. He has no business taking the most important AB of the game so far.
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I'll bet Pudge cut a fart there and that's why he moved away from the plate.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
Poop
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
Really, really disappointed in the lack of a Hoffpauir PH there.
There’s no guarantee that anyone’s going to get on base in front of Hoff the 9th to make a PH worthwhile, and even if someone does, it’s back to the top of the order anyway.
So now we get, presumably, Hoff PHing to lead off the 9th down 3, instead of batting with 2 runners on and 1 out in the 8th, down 3.
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meh
should have slept another half hour…
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Good on ya, mate!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
nice.. :)
you visited here?
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I have family near Brisbane....
and have been there to visit them back in ‘96. It’s tough when you are separated by that much distance.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
the flight's no fun
but it is a nice place to visit..
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 17, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, on the flight down...
I got claustrophobia for a bit, for the first and only time in my life anywhere. I woke up after four hours sleep thinking we were close and freaked when I realized we had nine more hours.
I’ll be back one day. It’s a great place.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Scales/E4
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
CUbs 3 Strohs 6
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
have gameday up now
you know it’s grim when Cotts is pitching…
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 17, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
Gotta love the Rally Caps in the bleachers.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions
Potbellys
Big Italian, I am currently demolishing one.
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Oh, I cant read.
I just saw dinner.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Power play for the Hawks
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HAWKS SCORE!!!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
he got 3 whole outs though! Miracle!
.. gotta build on our Cottsmentum now..
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 17, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
HAWKS SCORE TIE GAME!!!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on May 17, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions
Jump here to the winning thread.
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/5/17/877540/overflow-thread-3-cubs-vs-astros#comments
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
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