Movie Review: "Star Trek"
by Al on May 19, 2009 8:27 AM CDT
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It's hard for me to believe that almost 43 years have gone by since I was a not-quite-10-year-old lying on my living room floor watching "Star Trek", the TV show now known by Trekkers as "The Original Series".
The cast and stories are legendary in TV history; several feature films were made with them, some good, some ... not so much.
So when I heard they were making a "prequel" to The Original Series with recast Kirk, Spock, McCoy, etc. characters, I was skeptical. But the new "Star Trek" movie exceeds anyone's expectations and any fears should be dismissed. The casting is inspired, particularly Zachary Quinto as a young Spock and Karl Urban as a young McCoy. Quinto bears a strong physical resemblance to the young Leonard Nimoy and Urban has the McCoy speeches and mannerisms down cold.
But it's not just the casting -- the story is well-done, nuanced in the way Original Series scripts were, and for the modern movie fan who needs action scenes, those are also excellent. Eric Bana is creepily good as the enemy Romulan captain, and Leonard Nimoy reprises his own role as Spock (christened "Spock Prime" for this film), perhaps for the last time. They have, of course, left plenty of leeway for sequels -- and if they do them as well as this one was, I look forward to the next "Star Trek" film. AYRating: *** 1/2
It also got me thinking -- what current Cubs would be most similar to various crew members of the Enterprise and other characters from this film?
Captain Kirk: of course, he's Lou Piniella -- not only because they are both leaders, but they both are a bit headstrong at times and don't always make the right decision. (If you want to pick a player instead... it'd have to be Carlos Zambrano.)
Spock: Derrek Lee, always calm and collected, never saying much but speaking quietly in ways you might not expect.
Mr. Sulu: Rich Harden, precise in his approach to his work, never the big guy but someone you always appreciate having around.
Mr. Scott: Ryan Dempster -- the guy who's always joking around.
Dr. McCoy: also a jokester of sorts, he's Reed Johnson, never the major player but somehow, always around when you need him most.
Mr. Chekov: Mike Fontenot. (You shouldn't have to ask why.)
Captain Pike: Ted Lilly, always willing to go the extra mile (or light-year) for his team.
Yes, it seems like it's been ages since the last game. Hang in there -- it's less than 12 hours away. In the meantime, go see this movie!
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Albert Pujols as the Romulan captain
because he’s always trying to defeat us
by HoosierFan on May 19, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd pick Ryan Braun instead.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braun is a Ferengi
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you might just be right.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always talkeda bout how Carlos Marmol
Looks like a Pherengi
by daeviant on May 19, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I guess I can see that
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols is the Gorn
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by Gibbon Jockey on May 19, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Minor) Spoiler Alert. Collapse the comment if you don't want to read it.
I’m going to try really hard not to “spoil” anything for those who haven’t seen it . . . if you’re at all concerned, stop reading this comment here.
I thought it was entertaining, but I had a couple of problems with it. The most basic problem that I have is how willing long-running franchises like Star Trek and Doctor Who are to toss out decades of continuity. I also really, really dislike the paradoxical circuilar logic — events in the future causing events in the past/present. I suppose that by saying it’s an “alternate” universe in this case, they get away with it.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 8:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ironically Enough...
the only real problem I had with the movie was Leonard Nimoy’s presence. I liked this movie, though, not as much as some others. I would put this one fourth behind The Wrath of Khan, First Contact, and The Voyage Home. Okay, I know a lot of people went to the movie to see Leonard Nimoy as Spock. For box office purposes, I know good and well why he was in the movie.
I would have rather have had these new actors with JJ Abrams start off with a clean slate and start their own universe while changing a few minor things in the story. I would have preferred the older Spock to not have been in this movie. I’m a great admirer of how well Nimoy has played Spock over the years. I just feel it’s Quinto’s role now and Quinto’s alone now.
I loved Pine, Quinto, and Urban in their new roles. Seeing the Enterprise in battle with modern special effects was “way cool”. I’m very eager to see their second movie. The Wrath of Khan was the second movie for the TOS cast. First Contact was the second movie for the TNG cast. The second movie from this group could very well even up being their best.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nimoy was in the movie...
… not just for box office reasons, but to provide a transition from the original cast to the new actors playing the same roles.
Now that they have established themselves, I agree, the new cast could do even better with the second film.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting a completely different story
I guess I should read EW more often . . . .
I’d expected it to be the story of a young Kirk and Spock as their lives unfolded in the original timeline.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was what it was.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to "Spock Prime", it wasn't
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAJOR SPOILERS
Ok, so Nemo’s ship comes back in time and kills Kirk’s dad.
When Nemo goes through the black-hole, a new timeline is created. Every time you make a choice — I’m going to Starbucks instead of Panera — a new, alternate timeline is created.
This keeps the original ST continuity in place — in Spock Prime’s timeline, his mother is still alive, Vulcan isn’t destroyed, and everything that happened from TOS all the way through Voyager and the movies happened.
In THIS time line, everything is different from the moment Nemo makes changes.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
That’s what I mean — it wasn’t the original timeline of Kirk and Spock.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I get it now.
As I said below, maybe we’ll find out more in the sequel.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect a lot of what we think are changes in the timeline...
… will be addressed in the sequel.
Remember Star Trek II? Spock was supposed to be dead. Well, not quite…
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
it was only temporary. :D
They aren’t even on their five year mission yet. In TOS, Chekov isn’t even a member of the crew before season 2, in this reality, he’s an officer before Kirk finishes the academy.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Star Trek III : The Search for Spock
I believe that was the best odd-numbered Star Trek picture before this latest one, if you count the 2009 film as the eleventh Star Trek picture. I felt they did the best job they possibly could in giving a plausible explanation as to how Spock was revived. However, I only consider Star Trek III to be an average picture, not a good one. I just don’t want it to be lumped in with The Motion Picture, which was over my head and the truly abysmal Star Trek V as poor Star Trek movies.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Brother Agrees With You
He was born on September 9, 1969, the day after “Where No Man Has Gone Before” aired on NBC. He is an even bigger Trekkie than I am. He felt that transition was necessary for this Star Trek to gain acceptance. Judging from the box office numbers, he was right. I just thought that Nimoy being in this picture was a bit contrived. It’s not something that terribly upsets me. This is a much better movie than 1979’s The Motion Picture and 1994’s Generations, the first offerings from the TOS cast and TNG cast respectively. The first offering from this group was good.
I meant to type in a previous comment that “The second movie from this cast could very well end (not even) up being their best.”
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Where No Man Has Gone Before"...
… aired in 1966, not 1969.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops! I Meant 1966
Thanks for catching that! I was trying to make my brother three years younger than he actually is. His birthdate is actually September 9, 1966. I have 1969 stuck in my mind because of the moon landing and the Cubs.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
science says that if you’re going to do time travel, what happened in the movie is what you’re really going to get.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which one of us is from the future then?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daver.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you read that?
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buncha places.
it’s a common Sci-Fi trope, but it’s based in real science.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if it's a different timeline, that makes sense
Suggesting the present is influenced by its own future, though
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgot the ellipses
…
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
but it’s not it’s own future. In the future of THIS timeline, Kirk is a captain three years after joining starfleet academy (o.0), Vulcans are an endangered species, Spock and Uhura are… whatever they are, Scotty has a little Greedo-clone buddy, Pike isn’t a mute cripple… etc, etc, etc. It lets them jettison 40 years of continuity without doing any disservice to it whatsoever.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And as I said...
… we may find out in the next movie that some or all of that won’t happen. Time travel movies can do just about as they please.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if it's an alternate timeline, I'm ok with it.
What I don’t like is stuff like in the second Harry Potter book — Harry knew he could conjure the patronus because he saw himself doing it. That’s B.S.
The classic Doctor Who never used to do that — in fact, it even came up with an explanation as to why (the Blinovitch Limitation Effect), but the new series uses it in seemingly every story. It just seems like lazy writing.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, I agree
That’s the only way it’s palatable
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props to Bruce Greenwood
I loved the way he played Captain Pike. I don’t want to say much more to give anything away. Jeffrey Hunter did not want to be in The Menagerie, so that’s why they had to come up with the story of his receiving major radiation burns in saving cadets to explain why a different actor played him in The Menagerie. The Menagerie with scenes from the Jeffrey Hunter pilot, The Cage, is one of my favorite episodes. I won’t provide any spoilers.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, I'm confused...
Remember the episode where there are like 3 Enterprises all at a singular point in time (TNG, where Tasha Yar goes “back” and then creates a half Romulun offspring later?) I thought there could be multiple timelines that run parallel. If that’s the case, then all that this means is that Spock no longer exists in the original timeline, right?
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was there
but no longer. As far as the original timeline goes, he’s dead.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that's right
In the original timeline, he’s gone through a black hole. It didn’t kill him. That Spock is still alive, but in the alternate timeline.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the original timeline still exists through that black hole?
See, there’s a story idea right there.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think that it does, yes
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as far as the people on the other side know
he’s dead. That black-hole is closed. You can’t get back.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a science fiction movie.
Of course you can get back.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 20, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2001
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 20, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are a couple of common ways to deal with time travel in situations like these.
1. Goiong back in time and changing things has already happened and been taken into account in your current universe. If I went back to stop the Mets run in 1969, I would be unavoidably detained, or hit by a bus, or something else. End result: You can’t change history. (Ref. 12 Monkeys.)
2. Going back in time and changing things results in new, exciting parallel universes, but makes it difficult to get back to ‘your own’ universe. If I went back in time to stop the ’69 Mets, I would succeed, but the NL would have adopted the DH as a result. (Ref. Back to the Future.)
2a. Going back in time and changing things results in new, exciting parallel universes, but your memories change too, so you’d never know. The Cubs won the pennant in ‘69, everybody knows that. And Jake Fox is our DH. (Ref. that one episode of Stargate SG-1. You know the one I’m talking about.)
3. Going back in time and changing things causes the universe to tear itself apart because YOU JUST CAN’T DO THAT SORT OF THING. There was no pennant series in ‘69, just a sudden massive existance failure. (Ref. that one episode of Doctor Who where they save Rose’s dad.)
4. Going back in time and changing things doesn’t happen because you can’t travel backwards in time. The Mets won the ’69 pennant. (Ref. reality.)
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 36
by znohitter on May 19, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Quantum Leap scenario?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kind of a special case of scenario number 2, isn't it?
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 36
by znohitter on May 19, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it is.
Just wondering if you’d come up with something else. I’m kind of bored right now . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5. Going back in time and changing things results in an even more bizarre universe with paranoid androids, rock stars spending time dead for tax purposes, and two headed presidents of the Galaxy. (Ref. HHGG.)
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 36
by znohitter on May 19, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, that SG1 was great...
I still laugh when I think of them hitting golf balls into the gate…
by CubsWin!Oregon on May 19, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"That's gotta be a record."
Classic.
"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 19, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the one where Jack and T'lac (sp?) get stuck in a loop
or Moibus (end of season 8)?
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SG-1 did a lot of time-travel stuff
znohitter was probably thinking about “Mobius”, and even “Continuum” could work (except for not being an episode). CW!O and I were talking “Window of Opportunity”, and there was also “1969”.
/sg-1 nerd
"Aramis Ramirez, with the guys I've ever played with in my career, is as clutch a hitter as I've seen. He smells it." -Ryan Dempster
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 19, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
And yes, lots of time travel in SG1. :)
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
Window of Opportunity is the one that came to mind for me.
Was a great show (though I preferred it on Showtime to SciFi)…Went downhill over time, alas…but then most things do I guess.
by CubsWin!Oregon on May 19, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one was my favorite of them all.
Bought the Collector’s edition from Amazon, all 10 seasons for $30 at Christmas.
:-)
by Allie on May 19, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a great deal.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice pick up
Wish I’d only paid $30 for all of my DVDs…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 19, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can definitely see this
as someone who’s gut reaction was “but wait, what does that do for X episode in the future???” I ultimately realized though that the series as a whole was not going to be reactivated in a meaningful way. It wasn’t like I was ever going to find out what happened in the Federation/Cardasian war at the end of DS9, for example, so we might as well start out a new timeline and get some new movies/cast members.
I was overall pleased. I thought it was true to the original, exceptional characters and updated the tech/presence of Star Trek in a meaningful way. The only thing I really disliked was the Romulun, but that was mainly because the weird tatoo thing didn’t scream Romulun to me, it was just like a weird guy who happened to be there until they pointed out he was Romulun. I always liked the fact that character/attitude was what distinguished them from Vulcans, and that was definitely not the case here.
Overall 2 thumbs, way up, and I’ll prob go see it again before it leaves the IMAX
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This movie was great!
it was just uncanny how well the actors matched the original cast.
As for Cub casting, how about a historical twist:
Captain Kirk: has to be Santo – who else?
Spock: Ken Holtzman – measured, thinker, quiet,
Mr. Sulu: Billy Williams – steady, sure, reliable.
Mr. Scott: Mark Grace – same laugh, same hard work ethic
Dr. McCoy: Sosa – draw our own conclusions.
Mr. Chekov: Jose Cardenal – not quite sure why, but I like it.
Captain Pike: Ernie – can’t have a list without Ernie.
by BatCubFan on May 19, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The casting really was very good
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might flip Holtzman and Williams in your historical roster.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't argue
it was just I can picture the long pointy ears on Holtzman.
by BatCubFan on May 19, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
He was always giving people those injections with the needleless device……
"I won't be like A-Rod" - Z, 3/17/09
by Ihatethecards on May 19, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santo as Kirk? Huh?
Sorry, I just can’t buy this…
Current Santo
Chekov – “Keptin, the Romulans are firing phasers”
Santo – “Oh, man… uggghhhhh”
Spock – “Direct hit on the port nacelle, Captain”
Santo – "No, no, no, no, no… (degrading into soft sobbing).
Chekov – “They are firing again, keptin.”
Santo – “Oh, geez….”
1969 Santo
Chekov – “Keptin, the Romulans are firing phasers”
Santo – "This is your fault, Chekov. I can’t believe you did this.
Spock – “Direct hit on the port nacelle, Captain”
Santo – “Spock, he totally flew us into this attack. He is going to lose us this battle.”
Chekov – “They are firing again, keptin.”
Santo – “Two errors? You killed us, Chekov. Just killed us.”
The only thing they have in common is bad hair pieces.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on May 19, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which Cub Red Shirts have been ..
The most dramatic ..
The most meaningless ..
The most transitory ..
The most valuable ..
I nominate Neifi Perez as the most longlasting in recent memory
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on May 19, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
People never gave Sulu enough credit
He’s the helmsman. He steers the ship. He was a swashbuckler. If there was any character that lends back to the old days of navigation, it’s Sulu. I think the new reboot didn’t rewrite his character, but it brought him closer to the forefront. As an Asian American I am so happy he was prominent relatively early and in a very pivotal action sequence.
Also, I would say Geo Soto is Scotty. Very important to the flow of the ship’s engines, although is often behind the scenes.
by daeviant on May 19, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Al, the writers of the screenplay were on a screenwriting podcast I subscribe to this week. They mentioned they are already contracted for the sequel. They’re working on it now, though it’ll be at least 2-3 years before the film is in the can. I haven’t seen the film yet, but I’m looking forward to it.
"We are not equations with hats." -Dean Young
by Kegler on May 19, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I figured a sequel was in the works.
I look forward to it as well.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!!!!!!!!!!
Something to look forward too. :)
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al didn't like Star Trek VI?
I thought it was pretty good. It was Star Trek V that sucked.
TOS order from Best to Worst: II,IV,VI,III,I,VII,V
I agree that XI is easily worth the price of admission. But the Back to the Future alternate reality timeline confuses me. (how can Spock’s mom die when she was in part IV?) And the idea of Spock being the designer of the Kobayashi Maru sounds too contrived. (i.e. sounds more like something Star Wars would do…like Vader designing C3PO)
anyway….Go Cubs!
by Neifi Puppy on May 19, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
V was pretty bad, admittedly.
VI was just all over the place, I didn’t care for it, especially as it was the last for the original crew. If they’d just stopped with IV, I would have been just fine with it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nemesis was pretty bad, too
The villain’s anger at humans made no sense. And it turned into the Piccard and Data show.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nemesis was so annoying.
First Contact was my fav, but I started really watching the show with the TNG cast.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Contact was really good
Even if they did have more annoying circular logic . . . but at least the characters consciously tried to minimize their impact.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should have stopped at IV
If anything but to let the cast keep their dignity. They were already getting up there in age and rank, and any plot that tried to throw them all on the same ship seemed contrived.
It just boggles the mind why William Shatner keeps trying to cling on (no pun intended) to his role as Kirk when he’s starting to look like a fool. He wrote an alternate storyline where Kirk was resurrected after Star Trek: Generations. And then he tried to get Abrams to throw old Kirk into the plot, as well. It’s almost embarassing. He needs to stick to Priceline commercials.
by daeviant on May 19, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk out
Denny Crane.
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VI Necessary Because of V
Star Trek IV would have been a nice place to stop. However, that fifth movie was so dreadful that no one wanted the TOS cast to go out on a such a bad note. The sixth movie was made and liked, if not loved, by most people. I know Al didn’t like it. The events of the sixth movie between the Klingons and Earthlings mirrored what was going on with the fall of the Iron Curtain and improved relations between the US and the former Soviet Union. It also better explained how the Klingons were not enemies of the Federation by the time of The Next Generation.
It took me a while to accept The Next Generation because of the alliance between the Klingons and the Federation, but I came to really like the show with the development of the Star Trek character, Worf.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now he's a famous poster on BCB
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
VI is my favorite.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought VI was very well done...
I’d put it just below Wrath of Khan on my scale.
I liked IV, but thought that the actress playing Dr. Taylor (the whale lady) was just awful.
by bison on May 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
7th Heaven Star Trek Connection
Catherine Hicks played Dr. Taylor in the fourth movie. Stephen Collins played Will Decker in the first movie, The Motion Picture.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rule of Star Trek Movies
Odd is bad, even is good.
II, IV, VI, VIII = good.
This move = X. Good.
We’ll see if the curse has been broken for XI.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually Star Trek Nemesis was the 10th or X
This new movie which just came out is 11 or XI
by Neifi Puppy on May 19, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what happens when V'Ger returns?
What about the sausage probe that was looking for the humpback whales?
by daeviant on May 19, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who knows if they still exist?
perhaps when Nero destroys Vulcan, the resulting subspace feedback blows out a critical circuit of V’Ger, or wipes the star-maps of the Whale Probe.
That’s the great part. All those things happened — in another time and another place. THIS slate is wiped clean.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So this could also have caused
the Botany Bay to go off course, denying Khan’s initial confrontation with Kirk.
What about David Marcus? Does he still exist? I mean does Kirk even know Carol Marcus? If David doesn’t exist, then the Klingons can’t kill him, and Kirk will be less bitter.
by daeviant on May 19, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it could
have caused the Botany Bay to go off course. But even more importantly, it shaves years off of Kirk’s career before he becomes a starfleet captain, which means the five year mission starts earlier, so maybe Kirk is simply never in the right place at the right time to discover Kahn’s ship.
As far as David Marcus goes… the answer is we don’t know. Kirk was supposed to have met Carol Marcus while at the Academy, and nearly married her because he was hooked up with her by Gary Mitchell. There’s no mention of Gary Mitchell or Carol Marcus in the movie. So, maybe it did happen, maybe it didn’t.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually according to the information I read
The parallel universe enterprise is comissioned like five years later than the original one. What this means, I have no clue. Pike is never going to get disfigured and float around in a beeping wheelchair?
by daeviant on May 19, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not yet
anyway. There were some nice homages to the original movies.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kobayashi Maru
It’s mentioned after Lt. Saavik fails the Kobayashi Maru test in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan that Kirk cheated in his academy days to pass the test. I’m glad that was explored in this Star Trek film. Also, in a reference to the “Enterprise” TV series, Scotty mentions Archer’s beagle.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the "I am Spock" line
Was a nice homage to Nimoy’s books ….
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Older Spock to Kirk
“I have been and always shall be your friend” is a classic line from Star Trek that was used in this latest movie.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I agree that was a good one to use
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But here's the thing.
If they don’t pay at least some attention to the earlier timeline, that phrase might never get said.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where you are going with that
Do you mean the writiers acknowledging that they’d seen some of the movies, or that the characters retain the memories?
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too hopped up on Nyquil and beer for a coherent response
Don’t try that at home, kids…
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spock Prime
carries it over.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the thing though...
Everything that happened with the original movies still happens as it did. When Spock uses the Red Matter to create a black hole to absorb the nova’d star, it caused Nero’s ship, and Spock’s jellyfish (designed by LaForge~!) to get sucked in through a time vortex. So you have this line of string, which was the original timeline, and when the Red Matter event occurs, a tangent is created, or rather, an entirely separate timeline is created. In this timeline because of what Nero does, everything that happens will be far different than what happens in the original timeline because there is no Vulcan, Kirk has no father figure, etc., etc. These events won’t prevent Khan from being born, they may not even prevent him from being a tyrant, but this timeline may never have a Genesis weapon/project, there may not even be a Botany Bay as previously mentioned, it’s all new. That’s why I said before that their device from rebooting was brilliant because they can go in entirely new directions and not worry because the original timeline will still be the original timeline.
To nerd it up some more, think about the Marvel Universe and Marvel’s Ultimate Universe. That’s basically what you have here, except with Marvel you don’t have the brilliant plot device for what caused all of this.
My God, I’m such a nerd for time travel…Just look at my avatar for crying out loud…Ah well.
by Craig in South Bend on May 19, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
These events won’t prevent Khan from being born, they may not even prevent him from being a tyrant
Not exactly. Everything up to Jim Kirk’s birth is canon. So, the Eugneics Wars DID happen, and Kahn WAS a dictator, who was overthrown and shot into space on a sleeper ship.
The existence of a Genesis Project, however, isn’t required.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, you're right
Didn’t think about that. Aside from that though, I hope they don’t revisit Khan, just because, why mess with greatness?
by Craig in South Bend on May 19, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind them revisiting Khan
It would be completely different than the Wrath of Khan. They have done a great job of casting so far, I think they would cast a great Khan. Khan is still out there, even with the alternate reality.
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by DTJchris on May 19, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Close
Kirk’s father’s ship was attacked before Kirk was born in the new timeline.
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
seconds before. :D
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sausage probe
it landed in Milwaukee and runs races
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And investigates Ryan Dempster
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good and bad (SPOILERS)
The flick was a good popcorn movie, but I was frustrated by it. I really didn’t like the whole “erasing forty years of history” aspect of it. They could have created a movie that told the story of Kirk and Spock’s meeting without destroying the continuity and canon of the entire series. The whole “separate timeline” thing, while it may be correct in quantum physics, is a cop out for lazy writers. (As are time travel stories).
Simply put, this was not Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek, this was JJ Abrhams’s Star Trek. Abrahms admitted that he was more of a Star Wars fan than a Star Trek fan, and he made a movie that reflected that.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on May 19, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear God, you've killed us all by starting a holy war.
Maniac! :P
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 36
by znohitter on May 19, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit Jim, I am a Star Trek fan, not a jihadist.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on May 19, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Once to the Wars side you turn, forever will it control your viewing habits."
At least until Lucas sells out entirely and does a kids’ animated series to fill in the gaps between the prequels. Then you stop watching.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 36
by znohitter on May 19, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fanfic
This is a case where the fanfic out there is definitely better.
(and I don’t consider my own writing to be among the best or even better writing).
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on May 19, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it better than the Soriano/Fukudome slash stories out there?
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on May 19, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not even gonna bother Googling that
Curse you, Rule 34!
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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 19, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on all of the first part
Much of your comments echo mine.
The second part is plausible, too.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I’m not going to suggest you have to like the film, but JJ Abrams specifically used the alternate timeline so that he DIDN’T wipe out decades of continuity, but still had the ability to write a creative story.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plus it creates
untold abilities to create new stories. They don’t have to “Search for Spock” or take on Khan, there’s a whole new story line in the process. I liked that they took this approach, creating a whole new Star Trek movie universe without neglecting, nor abiding by, the previous installments.
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by DTJchris on May 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, the same thing could have been accomplished by creating new characters
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless they want these characters
In new situations.
These characters are the ones everyone loves. We know them. But now they have some slight new twists.
by Arbusto on May 19, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but TNG turned out fine
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was about to say something very similar
Everyone knows Kirk and Spock, even casual and non-Star Trek fans. This automatically gives this reboot a very, very large built in fan base. Bones, Sulu, Scotty, the two mentioned previously, etc. etc, are all beloved characters that are now reborn and given a new lease on life with young actors.
Instead of making another DS9, or Next Generation, we have the most famous Star Trek characters now with modern movie making techniques and in new adventures. I, for one, am greatly looking forward to it.
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by DTJchris on May 19, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As am I.
I have a feeling that the new timeline that has been created… will somehow be reconciled with the one we’ve known for 40 years, in the next film.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and as a new Star trek fan, I'm prepared to boldly go
I used to watch the Next generation with my dad and brother every week when I was younger, but could never get into the original due to poor production value. Now everything has changed
I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales
by heine41 on May 19, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Abrams has specifically said he’s NOT interested in doing that. It’s an alternate timeline, and that’s it.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad.
You could do a lot with that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 19, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
but not without screwing with the original continuity.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like getting Picard involved, I suppose
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by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pon Farr Illogical?
I wonder with only 10000 Vulcans left, if they will think it’s illogical to only mate once every 7 years. Even though Vulcans have much longer lifespans than humans. would it not be logical to repopulate the species at an accelerated rate (by Vulcan standards)?
Could we not have more species mixing involving Vulcans as we did with the Vulcan, Sarek, and the human, Amanda, with the Vulcan shortage? Look at Spock and Uhura in this latest movie. Not all Vulcan women look like T’Pol from the Enterprise TV series.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming you buy into the continuity provided by the books
Vulcans can mate at anytime; Ponn Farr is simply when the biological imperative overcomes their logical control
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vulcan Reaction to Losing Planet
I was kidding around a little bit with the mating stuff. I wonder how the Vulcans will be affected psychologically by losing their planet. How well are they going to be able to repress their emotions following such a traumatic occurrence? What planet will they colonize? I think the loss of Vulcan is the most significant difference between this alternate timeline and the one established by the original series.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spock Prime
talks about having found a planet to colonize at the end.
Since the Pon Farr urges were able to effect him in the Prime timeline, it’s not tied to the planet itself, so… who knows?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got the impression that they felt that accellerating mating was necessary
Doesn’t new spock say that he has to give up his commission because they have a species to repopulate or something?
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by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simply put J.J. Abrams is the man
He is the reason my friends and I went to this movie. None of us are really big ST fans but now that the franchise has had new life breathed into it, we are hooked.
Plus its obvious. With all the time travel in Star Trek and LOST, Season 6 will end with Kate and Jake having a son named Tiberious
I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales
by heine41 on May 19, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It won't be
Olivia and Peter from Fringe?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fringe
Im going to be in heaven on Thursdays this fall. Fringe and Bones together. Monday will be goof as well as Lie to Me and House are together.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on May 19, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may have been one of the most successul "reboots" I've ever seen
The way the story was setup to have these new movies take place in this tangenital timeline/universe, while still allowing the original timeline to remain in place is pretty brilliant. For once, Donny Darko was good for something other than giving you a migraine trying to figure out what was going on. I kinda want to see this again, but with T4 and Transformers coming out in a couple weeks, I’ll probably end up waiting for the Bluray release, which should look spectacular, what with the 10,000,000 lens flares in the movie (my one real complaint, other than everything looking like it was designed by Steve Jobs).
by Craig in South Bend on May 19, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what
you didn’t like the iBridge? It’s obvious that Starfleet is powered by the best computers available in the 23rd Century. Macs.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...as another holy war rears its ugly head...
(Macs RULE.)
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 36
by znohitter on May 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
And, I’m not going to hate or deny that I wouldn’t buy a Mac if I had the means. I’m sadly stuck with Windows machines (although, Windows 7 is soooooo good right now) and messing around with Ubuntu (WHY WON’T YOU WORK?!)
by Craig in South Bend on May 19, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batman Reboot
This latest Batman reboot with Christian Bale starting with Batman Begins and continuing with the Dark Knight was a pretty successful reboot, too. We’ll see how this new Terminator movie does with Bale.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on May 19, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about this
Can’t believe I did since I have TDK in front of The Departed for the best movie of this decade so far.
by Craig in South Bend on May 19, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEA AL!
YEA AL you used the proper term Trekkers not Trekkies.
Pats Al on the back and high fives him figuratively.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on May 19, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap....this is the super nerd thread!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 19, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Expelliarmus!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on May 19, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now go clean up your mess.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah!
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by DTJchris on May 19, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the tricorder don't fit
you must acquit.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hee hee hee.
That’s so cute!!!
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is there a movie review on this siteeeeeeeee??????
by Cubz24 on May 19, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because it's Al's site
and he’s done movie reviews in the past.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/section/Movie-Reviews
for more.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, check out the comic book tie in to this
If you’re up for it. It really goes a long, long way at explaining Nero’s ship’s weaponry, how many years in the future were they when that star was going nova, etc. I’m not a big Star Trek fan, but I do like good sci-fi, and this movie was good enough to check out the comic. Sorry if this was already mentioned.
by Craig in South Bend on May 19, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was..
..one of the better comic/movie tie-ins.
Just to expound on what you said. It’s called “Countdown”. It’s great pre-game read.
by MattHaggard on May 19, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Discussing movies and such
Discussing movies and other sports and such here is fun because we all know each other sort of so to speak. Discussing these topics with people we know here is better than some goofy site where you don’t know the people there.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on May 19, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
and also love the meticulous nature Cubs fans put into their other interests. :) This has been a very enjoyable convo.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I also like about it...
is that this is one of the most polite threads I’ve ever read on here :) Even when we’re disagreeing about stuff, no less…
:)
by CubsWin!Oregon on May 19, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
X-Men/Star Trek
Did anybody actually read that comic book series? Ugh… just the idea sickens me.
by TheHawkRules on May 19, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Having a Star Trek movie without Shatner is like
having a Terminator movie without Arnold. I mean it’s unthinkab…..wait nevermind…
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on May 19, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
*snicker*
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=a-section
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 19, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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