Hoff for Parnell?
Would this be a good deal for the Cubs? Who is Bobby Parnell? Can we get them to take DLEE instead?
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Until Lee shows he is 100% healthy
Hoff is not going anywhere.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee has an NTC
and we don’t want to trade him anyway.
Parnell looks like he’s got good numbers, but he’s also a righty. Who gets let go from the pen?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't like it.
Hoffpauir has not only been a good replacement for DLee, he has also shown he can be a nice LH bat off the bench.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 19, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We could substitute Fox for Hoff
It would probably be a wash
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by DTJchris on May 19, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Parnell.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=458730
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 19, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
those are some interesting splits.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm, yeah, he hasn't pitched all that much at the major league level.
His K:BB looks nice so far this year. He’s just been cuffed around pretty good – 21 hits in 18.1 innings. (Hey, as long as he isn’t walking guys, Lou would love him.) I’d be curious to read what a minor league expert would have to say about him. Where’s toonsterwu been lately?
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by dat cubfan daver on May 19, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Parnell? (The one on the right.)
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by dat cubfan daver on May 19, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Mr Pibb and Red Vines = crazy delicious
So true.
One of the best sketches on SNL over the last decade at least.
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by DTJchris on May 19, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snack attack, muthaf**ka!!!
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by dat cubfan daver on May 19, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I was dismissed in another post on the logic of this move by my
favorite dismisser, there’s logic to this.
I’m not certain when Hoffpauir’s value will peak, but I also don’t know whether it can get much higher as a first baseman.
I also can’t imagine the Mets want to invest huge money into first base when their starting rotation is some sort of 60’s motown group with a name like Johann and the 4 High ERA’s.
Additionally, when Ramirez comes back will he be able to play every day at third or will he be better with some games at first not having to make that long throw?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 19, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
didnt he dislocate the left shoulder
which would mean scooping throws in the dirt would be more of a challange then throwing.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doh...
I was wrong, it wasn’t right.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 19, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and I can't reply? crud
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 19, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Words to live by.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 19, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crikey
The big payroll playoff aspirational Mets who play on center stage in the Big Apple aren’t pining to acquire Micah Friggin Hoffpauir or Jake Friggin Fox !!! Carlos Delgado’s contract is gone after this season. The Mets can go out and acquire a big name to play 1st base or take on some veteran with an ugly contract if they want. And they have the good farm system to conceivably swing a deal for somebody like Adrian Gonzalez in San Diego for example.
If this were a place like Pittsburgh or Oakland then maybe your proposal would have some sea legs. But it doesn’t in the circumstance of the Mets.
by BLou on May 19, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
...and the Mets could always move Gary Sheffield to 1st base assuming the roid boy still has something in the tank
by BLou on May 19, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adrian Gonzalez...
…won’t become a free agent until after the 2011 season. After the 2006 season, the Padres signed Gonzalez to a long-term contract so as to avoid arbitration. That deal is back-loaded…he made $500k in 2007, $750k last year, will make $3m this year, and is due $4.75m next season, with a club option at $5.5m for 2011. Despite the Padres financial woes, they’d be insane to deal him now as he’s not only their best position player but also a tremendous bargain.
So your proposal re Gonzalez is way off base but the general idea is correct. Rather, you’re right in saying that the Mets aren’t likely to come begging for the services of Micah Hoffpauir or Jake Fox. Neither Hoff nor Fox would be much of an improvement over the in-house replacement, Fernando Tatis…provided that Tatis isn’t otherwise occupied as the starting shortstop. Even if Tatis stops hitting, the Mets would probably look to trade for an established ML first baseman (Aubrey Huff?) before they consider the Cubs’ collection of PCL superstars.
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by LaddieRenfroe on May 20, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padres top prospect is a 1st baseman exclusively
by BLou on May 20, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're playing him in LF.
If the Mets came calling to the Padres for a 1B, they’d be shown to the Kevin Kouzmanoff aisle.
Derrek Lee is good.
by DGU on May 20, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I get it.
Pitching is king everywhere but with the Mets, so they can spend all the available cash and prospects for a money is no object first baseman and ignore their horrid rotation.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 19, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their rotation seems to be doing okay
Plus they no doubt will be in the bidding for any starters put on the market mid-season. You underestimate the financial resources and farm system of the Mets. Or their ability to get to a World Series this year. They just might surprise all of us and land Jake Peavy at some point.
But hey, if you are among the throng that believes that 29 other teams can’t wait to get their hands on our journeyman and limited skill prospects in exchange for prized jewels then I can’t help you.
by BLou on May 19, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay? One Starter has already moved to the pen he was so bad
and the best ERA after Johann is 4.24
They’re bad
by WanderingWanderer on May 19, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and they don't run the bases so well either
Damn I fell asleep last night before Church forgot to touch 3rd base.
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by Doggie Stalker on May 19, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus...
How does every argument of yours always come back to whether a team is playing in Pittsburgh?
by redward on May 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most his posts are not so bad
if you stop reading before the last sentence. Usually it is the last line that takes a decent post and sends it spinning out of control
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shazbot!
I’m going to start putting different exclamations in my subject lines. Max will do this in conversation — we’ll be talking, and he’ll blurt out “SWAHILI!”
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you do recognize
that it’s a METS blogger who came up with this idea, right?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would require BLou to actually read
and then he could not make it up as he goes
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um....
…….why is it that when a poster on here posts an opinion that is not the reader’s exact opinion, some posters really feel the need to attack and bash the poster? Come on, we are all adults, and it is damn time we start acting as such.
Sound familiar?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 19, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and when they do not include facts
or in this case read the link that he wishes to rip into, what is wrong with being honest about it? I am not attacking, just pointing out the truth.
BLou is reacting towards a BCB poster as if the BCB poster wrote the article, showing he did not take a single minute to read the linked blog that this is regarding. Did i call him an idiot, or curse him out, not once. DId i mentiod that BLou is skipping facts (which he has) yes.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He stated his opinion on "Hoff for Parnell"...
…and he didn’t “rip” into anyone. It appears others commenting here didn’t have to read the article either to state an opinion on the two people mentioned in the headline. . But, hey, if you don’t think your snarky reply was a “bash” of BLou, then nobody’s going to change your mind.
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by carmen_fanzone on May 19, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was not meant as bashing
and if taken that way, not meant that way.
on the flip side, if someone is going to make comments at someone about a topic, but didnt read it (or make up facts as you go along) is it wrong to point that out?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 19, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLou’s tone is consistently disrespectful and snarky. But hey, if you don’t think that, nothing’s going to change your mind.
It isn’t that BLou has a different opinion. It isn’t even that he thinks his opinion is right. It’s that he thinks you’re STUPID if you don’t agree with him.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 19, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perception
is everything
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by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
Have you noticed how what he says is perceived around here? Sometimes it’s not groupthink. Sometimes, you really ARE ticking everyone off.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 20, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but in this case....
….not so much. This is about as mild as BLou’s ever been, and yet, people still jump down his throat.
Why are people pissed off in this case? Because he said “this one doesn’t have sea legs”? He didn’t get personal, he disagreed.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you wish to call one person out
as you did to me, you need to call out all posts that should be called out.
I might have worded mine a tad “snarky” as you say, but if you read BLous comments, he not only is being rude, snarky, bashing, (pick your choice of word) but he does so with no facts to base his posts on. He makes up the facts, and when provided with facts he walks around the facts often. His posts are usually with some decent insight and then he goes off the deep end, by ending the post with an insult.
now call me out when you think i have crossed the line, fine, but be sure to call everyone out in the same manner, instead of focusing your energy to one alone.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in this case, not so much....
Tell me what’s wrong with BLou’s post above…
Is “your idea doesn’t have sea legs” insulting to you? Or anyone?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the entire tone
is dismissive. You have to put it in the context of his general demeanor.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 20, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and take into consideration
his historical postings, where they basically tell you that you know nothing and he knows everything, even when he dismisses all facts and often logic
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see...so it's based on his history, not what he actually wrote yesterday..
Well, that’s fair.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
it’s based on all of it.
Carmen, I used to BE that guy. I was kicked off of more than one list for being arrogant, tone-deaf, dismissive, and unwilling to either compromise or give up on topics I pursued. I didn’t listen to other people, I didn’t listen to the little voice in the back of my head saying “Drew, stop being such a tool.”
It took a huge series of events in my life — an affair, a divorce, the betrayal of friends, and the welfare of my son — to get me to change. Perhaps I should be more sympathetic to BlueMike. I don’t know. But that’s where I stand. He could be so much more, and he simply refuses to even acknowledge it.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 20, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew, we're not here to change people...
I just find it ironic that this fanpost that was so applauded by the “regulars” isn’t necessarily what goes on here day to day. You have the “extreme” negative posts that that fanpost was meant for, but you also have the “steamblowers” that are attacked on a regular basis as well. It’s hypocritical. (and that doesn’t necessarily have to do with BLou in that situation, just something I thought of when reading it)
As far as BLou, he’s been that way forever, he’s not going to change no matter what is said to him. He’s a cartoon character. But EVERY time he posts, he’s attacked. Every time. You don’t think he FEEDS off that? I choose, the majority of the time, to ignore him. But he gets under your skin. I can understand that, but that doesn’t make it right to attack him even on a harmless post like above. It’s just like people are vicious about proving a poster wrong. Ugh. I hate that. And it pushes people away.
I can’t say I haven’t been guilty of it myself, but realize it’s a waste of space. But, hey, it’s what BCB is. And you and Tim can take it with a grain of salt if you don’t think you’re guilty of it. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m the only one who sees it like this.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone has been guilty
at one tiem or another, no doubt.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you done trying to corner me
when it will not happen? please continue to police ALL the posts and stop zoning on mine alone. You are trying to start a problem (or so it seems) by taking whatever i say and twist it how you want it to be.
My comment to Drew was an extension to his, so it would make sense for you to read the two comments, put them together, and then try to evaluate it. Then include your comment prior, and so on. Before you know it, the entire conversation makes sense. That is better than picking parts of a comment or one comment in a line of comments to try and twist around.
thanks
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're being overly sensitive, Tim.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how
by correcting where you leave out parts of the conversation, and pointing out you seem more interested in my replies than the actual topic at hand?
Thanks
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow....um, okay....
a. my reply was to both you and Drew. I hit the reply button to continue on both of your thoughts, since I read them at the same time. Drew’s “general demeanor” comment was the same as your “past history” one, in my book.
b I’m replying to the flow of the conversation, which was my observation of how BLou is treated vs. the fanpost to treat others with respect. Tangent? Somewhat. Happens all the time in threads.
But, hey, you know what Tim? If you think I’m out “to cause trouble” I would add “paranoid” to the overly sensitive description. Because that’s not what’s happening here, dude. Not by a long shot.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
how off can you be….
11 years in bill colletions, trust me sensitive and paranoid is not a way to describe me.
I guess trying to stay civil about your constant policing of my posts in this thread is misleading to you.
I am done with this chain with you.
Thanks
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, no comment about my explanations .....
….of your concerns about me? Just how wrong I am about your personality in the “real world”? I guess that’s one way to end a discussion. LOL.
I see my comments as “replies in a thread”, you see them as “constant policing of my posts”. Seems a little paranoid to me, dude. Your mileage obviously varies.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha....
If you wish to call one person out, as you did to me, you need to call out all posts that should be called out.
Well, no, I don’t. Because I’d rather call out the person who wrote an impassioned plea to “be civil, we’re all Cubs fans”, and 2-3 days later bashes on BLou. That’s a tad hypocritical, wouldn’t you say?
I don’t pretend to agree w/ BLou’s arguments or the way he presents them, but I choose to ignore them. I think that was one of your suggestions in the fanpost, no?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 20, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you will selectively police threads?
and I am not cursing, or bashing his posts, just making the point he is avoiding facts and responding to information he obviously didnt read.
is it wrong to make tht statement, I didnt see it as wrong, and if you think it was, then I apologize to you for it. But if you do feel the need to police my posts, please be fair and police all posts not one persons only
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 20, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes I should think it does
since that’s what the other BCB sounds like all the time.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 20, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, "your proposal"
I would suppose this is directed at Mets blogger Dave Singer, but he seems to think Parnell is too steep a price anyway.
by Jerry Mumphrey on May 19, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to find a way
to get Fernando Tatis in the deal to play some 3B for us.
Derrek Lee is good.
by DGU on May 20, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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