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When do we point fingers at Gerald Perry?

I'm not one to complain about the teams performance, say we should bench a player, trade for a player, etc....

However, some of these batting averages are getting alarming. If it were one player such as Soto or DLee I would say that one player is struggling but look at this lineup:

-Lee .229

-Soto .198

-Bradley .188

-Miles .209

-Fontenot .207

-Johnson .236

Clearly this is a problem. On ESPN tonight they made a point that if this were April we'd say it's the beginning of the season and everyone is warming up but it's almost 2 months of baseball.  These numbers are alarming.

Do we blame Gerald Perry for his work with the players this year? Who would have to accept this responsibility? Are there better options for promotions in the minor leagues?

With are starters having batting averages like they do, we're lucky to be over .500 right now. Thankfully there is room for improvement in hitting.


What are your thoughts on this?

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Fire the hitting coach that will solve things. The team is now slumping and this isn’t the first offense slump of the year. Best case scenario is that it only lasts a few more games and they can get back on track.

We are lucky to be where we are at with the kind of production we have gotten out of some of the players. Lets look at that as a positive and go from there.

by jeff_pico on May 20, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fresh Approach

You basically reiterated what I said but would someone new help put a fresh approach to struggling hitters? It seems like whatever he’s doing isn’t working right now.

Didn’t Lou bring someone in back in 2007 to help the team during a slump? I don’t remember what it was for though.

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t put any value in a ‘hitting coach’ I think they are all struggling for various reason that no change in coach is going to change.

by jeff_pico on May 20, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

I thought it was a fair question to ask. I try to not come on here and complain. And I’ll admit the Cubs are a GOOD team for finding ways to win when the offense is struggling.

Lou seems to have found solutions with his pitching by getting the starters to pitch 7 innings as much as possible to secure leads. Maybe he can figure out how to turn this slump around with some of the hitters.

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heavens to mergatroid

Yeah, lets throw the hitting coach under the bus. He’s to blame for Mike Fontenot being horribly exposed in his upgraded role as everyday player. And for Geovany Soto getting fat and bat speed slow. And for the continuing nosedive in Derrek Lee’s production value that started before this season. And for Aaron Miles being (to steal a line from Dennis Green) who we think he was.

Yep, Gerald Perry sucks. The same Gerald Perry that was hitting coach in 2008 when a whole shitload of Cubbie hitters had exceptional offensive years.

by BLou on May 20, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh I forgot

We’re not allowed to have legit conversations on here when Cubs are on a losing streak. My apologies, I shouldn’t have posted anything. It’s perfectly normal for 50% of our starters to be hitting below normal.

And hey this isn’t 2008 and he was the same hitting coach that prepared the team the last two post seasons.

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crikey

Yep, lets blame the ineptitude of the Cub hitters on Gerald Perry. Why didn’t I think of that. I think Geovany Soto, Mike Fontenot, Aaron Miles and Derrek Lee should get pitchforks and run Perry out of town for so horribly failing them !!!

by BLou on May 20, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we agree

Atleast my post is better than the one above by mmancubfan?

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can agree, at least...

… that your post was better than the one from earlier today by BLou. :-)

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by AndrewJStone on May 20, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

I saw he posted something but thought it was wise to just not even click inside. You know what they say on here “if you don’t like a post, just hit back or don’t click in”. Did I miss anything?

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true about soto

his huge fat ass is really difficult to look at. yes, some players are able to perform at a high level while chubby. but didn’t soto notice that his offensive breakout finally came after he dropped some pounds? i have no respect for someone who can’t get off his ass, burn some calories and lay off the fatty foods when it’s part of their job description to do so. it’s truly, truly pathetic.

by amory blaine on May 20, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, BLou is the voice of reason.

+1

No facetiousness here. You’re right. Perry has almost nothing to do with this. An offense that was responsible for the 2nd most runs scored in MLB last year….and this horseshit offense this year.

Dan

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by dtpollitt on May 21, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually agree with Blue Mike

The Padres change hitting coaches every year. Now, it’s Jim Lefebvre. You can see how much this helps a team, one hitting coach after another. Most of the time, players don’t even listen to the hitting coach.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 21, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is misguided.

Gerald Perry is good.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 20, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing

I liked about Lou a couple of years ago was he would play the hot bat. But Hoff can’t make it into the lineup. Koyie does well when he plays twice a month. He keeps hoping that Fonty and Geo will hit their way out of the slump. I’m not saying to bench them, just give them more regular rest to change their focus.

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Fontenot is not an everyday player

Therein lies a big and growing problem with this Cub lineup. I will never understand why Mark DeRosa was jettisoned to save five friggin million dollars yet Hendry turned right around and gave Aaron Friggin Miles five friggin million dollars over two years.

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by BLou on May 20, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am heading your way

but not ready to totally give up on Fonty. Just give him some rest. Look Boston sat Ortiz down for the entire weekend and in his 2nd game back, he hits his first homer. Sometimes sitting back and watching a couple of games can change their focus.

And agree with DeRo, not a good move on Hendrys part.

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is not new with Fontenot though

He got really cold the last 2 years. I think in 2007 he was sent to minors when that happened and in 2008 he sat on the bench. The thing is, when his bat heats up and it will, Fontenot will be a really difficult out. The bigger question is, how many at-bats does he hurt us until that occurs?

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he keeps batting him 6th.

A bad spot for a struggling young player.

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and that's the problem with this lineup

Feast or famine hitters. Sure, he’ll get hot at some point, but that’s exactly the problem with this lineup; hot or cold, no in between. that’s why we lost 2 octobers in a row. You can’t win a world series with that kind of a team.

As far as Lee/Hoffpauir, Lee the’s first baseman, period. He’s old, not as good as Hoffpauir any longer, and he’ll put up .270 and 14 Hrs this season, but he makes money, and Lou ain’t gonna bench him, period.

Jim Hendry is an idiot. Blame him for assembling this joke of a lineup, not Gerald Perry.

by reedjohnson on May 20, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its feast or famine

ff you keep riding the cold guys just waiting for them to come out of it.

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The loss of Aramis Ramirez (best hitter and most important run producer) is being more and more felt

Pitchers are attacking the Cub lineup differently without Ramirez. And they shall continue to do so. The one player who can and must step up and semi-fill the void is Milton Bradley. We also need to get Micah Hoffpauir into the lineup and sit Derrek Lee more. And pray for a miracle that Geovany Soto wasn’t a one year wonder and will indeed start to hit again.

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by BLou on May 20, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree with all your points

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fontenot was used properly in 07-08

No ab vs lhp makes a difference.

Why Lou can find crucial AB for fontenot while Hoff rots on the bench is just weird, though.

Hoff has been hotter than heck for 2 years! The entire team is hitting .200 with no power! Why is this so difficult?

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by D98 on May 21, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou played the hot bat...

… at certain positions. No manager is going to play the hot bat and bench a perceived star player. When you have platoon type players or second tier starters, you can let them sit for a few days. That doesn’t happen with key players.

by dmlichte on May 20, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, totally agree

He would never bench Aram no matter what he did. I am talking about Geo and Fonty and giving them more bench time.

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fontenot was smartly and selectively used in 2008

That was the nicety of Mike Fontenot in 2008. Lou Piniella had the option and the roster versatility to play Fontenot in situations where he had the best chance to succeed and be of value. But now that has been completely lost because Hendry just HAD to get rid of the enormously valuable and versatile Mark DeRosa in deference to saving $5 million that he turned around and gave Aaron Friggin Miles over two years.

Fontenot was put in a position to be a distinct asset in 2008. Now by forcing him to be an everyday player he is becoming a distinct liability.

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by BLou on May 20, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Micah Hoffpauir needs to be playing 1st base more than Derrek Lee

There, I said it. Me. The guy who was a BIG cynic of Micah Hoffpauir belonging at this level. I’m not saying Hoffpauir is great, but what I am saying is that this Cub linuep cannot afford to have his bat not in that lineup at 1st base.

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by BLou on May 20, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a real dilemma

I think he’s going to find more time in RF if Bradley doesn’t start heating up. I also don’t think Bradley is at 100%. I was half-watching the game but he didn’t seem to be running that hard in the 9th. He got home regardless but still….

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is the world coming to when

 I’m a huge fan of DLee and haven’t been one of Micah but I actually agree w/ Blou

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on May 20, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last I checked

Lee was out-hitting Hoffpauir in May.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 20, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee can't get around on a fastball and has truly terrible run production value

It’s a combination of his rather shocking decline and injuries at work in my estimation. But that doesn’t create an excuse. This is a cold business and we are trying to win baseball games. it is time for Derrek Lee to move to the bench several days a week. Hoffpauir has been driving the ball and can be counted upon for run production. Will it last? I have no idea. But as one of his historic critics I must say he is impressing me with his ability to find a pitch and drive it. And the thing is you can see MLB pitchers are already trying to adjust to him …. but he has had the answer in return.

You know they can't prove whose vomit it was...they don't have the facilities at Scotland Yard...you can't really dust for vomit.

by BLou on May 20, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barely.

But Hoff still has over a 200 point advantage in OPS. Micah has been vastly superior to Derrek this year, and it’s not even close.

by kanderber on May 20, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...

And in a lineup card absent Aramis Ramirez and struggling mightily to scratch together runs you can no longer afford to keep Hoffpauir out of the lineup. He’s got to play more, and Derrek Lee has got to sit more.

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by BLou on May 20, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I think

I think Bradley should sit and Hoff play RF. You give up a run from fielding with Hoff’s RBI’s.

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lou would be afraid

of not having the L-R-L thing in the middle of the lineup. But I would love to see Hoff in there at least 3 times a week.

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by KaliCub on May 20, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone quick with stats

Games Hoff starts vs. games he doesn’t? Interesting to see the record. I have a feeling it’s going to be fairly even though….

by ak123 on May 20, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the answer is improving the offense

you only drop the guy with an OPS over 1.000 this month if it’s something personal (which for some on this board, it appears to be with Lee).

The offense I’d run out there, if I was panicing, was Soriano at 2B, Hoff at LF and Miles/Scales/Freel on the bench.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 21, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, just posted this comment in another topic.
Lee looks like he’s coming along and his season average and season OPS have climbed .036 and .082 over the last week.

I’m not sure we can look at a guy’s season numbers, but need to look at what he’s doing right now and over the last few weeks.

From a low versus the Padres, he looks to be on an uptick and I don’t understand why the calls to sit him grow while he shows improvement.

In the last three games, all losses, DLee is batting .500 over 12 at bats with 1 home run and two RBI’s. These last three games were brutal to watch, but I don’t believe first base was a problem or that Fox or Hoffpauir starting at first would have changed any of the three outcomes.

I quotes me.

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by N Oakley on May 21, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts? You can't blame Perry.

Johnson, Miles and Fontenot may be hitting what should be expected. Reed Johnson’s line in his final year in Toronto was .236 / .305 / .320. Look a bit familiar? Remember Johnson was released by the Blue Jays. Fontenot is starting for the first time, maybe he shouldn’t be. I’m not blaming Perry for Aaron Miles who isn’t much of a hitter to begin with.

Lee? He is hurt and aging rapidly. Bradley? At his age, I’m not sure Perry can help him that much.

So that leaves maybe Soto as one that Perry could help.

by rlpete on May 20, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soto?

Might I suggest Jenny Craig or Seattle Sutton might be the best help for what ails Geovany Soto.

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by BLou on May 21, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, I don't agree.

NutriSystem is better. Soto’s at least 20 pounds overweight, to my eyes.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 21, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should have just stayed on the system he was on last year.

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by Al on May 22, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blame the batting coach?

I think, in all honesty, the answer lies in what we should be expecting of the Cubs batters. I think that there may be some cruel realities along with a few players performing below their abilities.

The cruel realities

- First is D. Lee. He has apparently been playing hurt for a few seasons now with back and neck problems. His power has been decimated and he often cannot catch up to good fastballs. Not only was Lee’s 2005 obviously a flash in the pan, but he looks unlikely to come close to his career average.

- Mike Fontenot is not a starter. Good platoon player? Likely… but not a starter. Playing every day either overexposes him or just is more than he is capable of.

- Alfonso Soriano is, well, Alfonso Soriano. He will have fantastic stints and hit for great power. But he cannot handle hard stuff low and away and why any pitcher ever throws him a strike really is beyond me. But Soriano is never going to be the model of consistency.

- Bench players just aren’t that good. We may want to love Reed Johnson’s gritty style of play but as rlpete pointed out, he was released by Toronto. He is going to contribute at times, but overall, he’s not all that great.

Underperforming players

- Milton Bradley is at the top of the list. Even when he was working pitch counts at the beginning of the season he was not doing much with 3-0, 3-1 pitches. The rest of the team’s struggles have only accentuated Bradley’s rough start.

- Geo Soto may be underperforming or he may be a flash in the pan.Time will tell and hopefully he’ll pick it up, otherwise Soto gives the Cubs the typical good defender/mediocre bat catcher.

So I don’t like blaming Perry. Wish I could because coaches can be changed, but I really don’t think this is about him. I worry that this just isn’t a very good offense.

by dmlichte on May 20, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Your just wrong about Soriano.

He has had a lot of keys hits/home runs on soft stuff away. That myth about Soriano simply is not true.

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by cubswynn on May 21, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, lots.

But it is obvious to everyone watching the game that one gets Soriano out on sliders off the plate away and down. He can’t lay off em. Seems like he should be standing in the cage all day without a bat, just watching sliders.

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by buckmulligan on May 23, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 20, 2009 11:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You really seem to get a big

kick outta yourself, huh?

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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on May 21, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fire Perry now!

Bradley was supposed to rake and the rest never seem to alter their approach at the plate. Soriano can’t be helped or changed but the rest can. Time for a new approach, Larussa got rid of him for a reason!!

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by Itchy on May 21, 2009 12:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To those who say don't blame Perry...

If a hitting coach can’t get any players out of an extended funk (read: a month and a half), then what exactly is it that he’s supposed to do?

by kanderber on May 21, 2009 7:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cautionary tale.

There was a team that made the playoffs a few years ago; in that year they led their league in runs scored.

Then they got swept out of the playoffs in the first round. They got off to a bad start the next year and almost at this precise point in the season… they decided the problem was the hitting coach. They fired him.

This year’s Cubs? No, the team I’m talking about is the 2000-2001 White Sox. They fired their hitting coach after they got off to a 14-29 start following their playoff season.

Oddly enough, they got hot right after that and went 69-50 the rest of the year, finishing over .500.

The hitting coach that was fired? Von Joshua, now the Cubs’ hitting coach at Iowa.

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by Al on May 21, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that we all fail to realize

…that this team is missing 25% of it’s power output with Ramirez on the DL. If you took Pujols out of STL, how would they fare? How about Berkman going down for Houston? David Wright in New York? How did the Yankees fare without Alex Rodriguez? Look, we’re 5-5 since Rami got hurt (including the game he got hurt in) and I’d say that’s pretty damn good, all things considered. We’ve got another 40 games to go (give or take) until he’s ready to come back… If we fire a coach every time we go .500 on a 10 game swing, we’ll be out of coaches 10-20 games before he even gets back!

Lou is going to shake things up, he’s done it the past 2 years when the team has been in a funk, and it’s worked quite well each time. He knows how to inspire confidence in an otherwise down and out team. We all give Lou a lot of crap for some of the on-field moves he makes, but I think we often overlook what we does off the field, and especially, behind closed doors.

We’re going to be ok, guys. I’m JUST as upset as all of you are that the team isn’t playing well, and it hurts even more that we’re not playing well against the hated Cardinals… But look, no one is running away with this division… we’re 3 (THREE) games out on May 21st with our BEST position player gone… if we’re 3 games out when he comes back, you know where that’d put us? In a race to win the division.

So everyone just relax, take the good with that bad… hey, it could be worse – we could be down 2-0 and playing the Red Wings ;-) (ps, that hurts to even say it)

by lswaidz on May 21, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With Bradley, Lee

and Soto scuffling and Miles/Fontenot not delivering as expected, I would venture that Ramiriz was more than 25%.

The offensive success of the 2009 Cubs were predicated on Soriano, Soto, Ramirez and Bradley matching 2008 production and Lee and Fukudome breaking out of their funk, and Miles/Fontenot being adequate. Other than Dome showing promise and Lee just starting to do something, not much else is happening.

I believe a GM can prepare depth to accomodate one major slump or injury, but this is getting a bit much.

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by N Oakley on May 21, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was considering him 25%

Based on Lee, Soto, Bradley and Ramirez consistently being 3-4-5-6. Of course, Soriano wasn’t considering, as he is a lead-off hitter and not really part of the “power,” eventhough he is the sole source of power for the team right now… but you can’t win games with lead off homeruns, and Sori seems to be biting on those down and away breaking balls again as well.

I think we’re all started to realize the true value of a guy LIKE DeRosa (this isn’t me saying we should go get him again, but I do miss his smile… I mean bat…) and the value of a good farm system… neither of which we really have right now. We have the bats available, but we’d be sacrificing runs for errors, and god only knows how that would affect the team right now… I mean, it’s not like our pitchers are going out and getting shelled… quite the contrary… excluding the 12 run shellacking from Milwaukee last weekend, we’ve given up 5 or more runs 4 times in 17 games in May… we and WON one of those games… If you told me the Cubs, 17 games into May, would have given up 5 or more only 4 times, I’d say we’d be 13-4. Instead we’re 11-6. So we’re 2 games worse than we should be… that’s not that bad, again, all things considered.

by lswaidz on May 21, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the minor league system and scouting,

that’s the area where I don’t see the Cubs competing with consistantly good teams.

I’m concerned as I see station to station baseball which I didn’t expect with the outfield of Soriano, Dome & Bradley and Lee, Fontenot and Theriot in the infield.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 21, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gerald Perry is a pretty feisty guy.

Methinks if you pointed a finger at him, he’d break it off.

Look, if the hitting coach has that much sway over the team, shouldn’t we trust the guy who helped the Cubs score the most runs in the National League last year? I’m sure he’s doing all he can. The Cubs offense just has to play through this and get to the other side. It sucks, I know. But pointing fingers at the coaching staff isn’t going to do much besides thrown the team into further chaos.

Are there better options in the minors? Um, you could ask Josh, but my guess would be a big fat no. Yeah, there’s Jake Fox, but he has no defensive position. And there’s certainly no guarantee the Cubs could just drop him in the lineup and watch him hit two home runs a game.

Oh, and I’d advise looking beyond batting average, too. I’m not sure any of those guys’ OPS is much better, but staring at a player’s batting average doesn’t really tell you all that much and can get awfully depressing.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 21, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The hitters point their fingers at him all the time...

right after they get a hit.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or, thanks to Jacque Jones...

…doing the classic two-six-shooter salute.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 21, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is assinine

so quickly after he got all these accolades for improving the team’s “Approach” at the plate, Perry’s now the goat?

he’s not as responsible as we made him out to be for last year’s performance, nor as responsible for this years as we’d like to believe

by DartmouthCubsFan on May 21, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The Cubs should replace him with Kyosuke Sasaki.

Oh, and can someone post the sarcasm marquee for me.

"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "

by Villeslgr on May 21, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gerald Perry

It’s not just the low batting averages of players now; that’s just a microcosm of Perry’s failure as hitting coach and if it’s not his fault, why pay him at all to be there. The common denominator in the Cubs failure to win even one game over the last 2 post seasons has been lack of offense. Perry has been a hitting coach for teams that made the playoffs 5 times, 2000,2001/Mariners, 2005/Athletics and of course 2007,2008/Cubs. His teams have never advanced and in 21 playoff games have scored 3 runs or less 16 times. While his overly passive lame hitting approach may be somewhat effective during the regular season where the team is facing mediocre pitchers on mediocre teams or early in the season before pitchers hit their stride, in the post season, when your facing the best pitchers on the best teams, they are throwing strikes and the Cubs lame approach has them defensively hitting pitches on 0-2 and 1-2 counts weakly for easy outs. Even aggressive hitters get walks, not by taking pitches per se since one cannot directly control what the pitcher throws, but by hitting strikes hard indirectly causing pitchers to try to be to perfect hitting corners and hence walking the hitters. So often the best pitch to hit is early in the count, a fast ball in the strike zone and the Cub players take it for a strike and then foul off a breaking ball and there we are with 2 strikes in defensive mode having to flail away at a pitcher’s pitch making outs when we should have nailed that fast ball earlier in the count; it happens to the Cubs repeatedly even in the regular season. I think when the league hits the first pitch, they are hitting well above 300 and the all time post season home run hitter is a free swinger and in fact most dangerous free swingers almost all almost always get their fair share of walks by owning the plate and crushing strikes, not by taking strikes right down the middle. Gerald Perry seems to advocate a gutless overly passive approach to hitting destined to doom an offense to failure as opposed as a fear free, no guts no glory focused aggressive approach where the hitter owns the plate and taps the plate with his bat, stares down the pitcher and dares him to try to throw a strike by him. I believe we will never have a consistent offense with Gerald Perry as our hitting coach and if we are lucky enough to make the post season, we’ll likely see the same result as long as our hitters are looking for walks instead of pitches to drive with an aggressive focused approach.

by Mondemerd on Jun 1, 2009 12:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this the same Gerald Pery that coached the Cubs team that lead the league last year

in almost every offensive catagory? Has he suddenly gotten stupid and instructed the Cubs batter to be overly passive and not hit in the clutch? The exact qualities that you so eloquently describe were displayed by the Cubs batters last year. Just one year ago. If I am not mistaken, the Cubs have the same hitting instructor this year as last year. Is that correct? He hasn’t changed, but some of the Cub players have. So maybe it’s not Mr. Perry. Maybe the Cubs just are not hitting because they are not as good at hitting this year as they were last year.

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 1, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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