The Marshall-Wainwright Rematch: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Thursday 5/21, 7:15 CT
by Al on May 21, 2009 5:15 PM CDT
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Peavy? What Peavy? There's a game tonight! (But if you really want more Peavy, here's Barry Rozner's take. It seems likely that Peavy will make his scheduled start against the Cubs tomorrow night.
Now, back to the current series. The Cardinals have played 40 games and the Cubs 38 -- both fewer than one-quarter of their season. Yet, tonight's will be the ninth game between the two teams -- almost a quarter of the schedule.
That makes for rematches; these two pitchers hooked up on April 16 at Wrigley Field. Marshall pitched fairly well and left the game when it was tied -- the bullpen blew it. Both pitchers have faced tonight's opponent on another occasion this year, so they ought to be well familiar with the lineups.
I liked the word Lou Piniella used to describe what some Cardinals fans did as Lou walked back to the team hotel on Tuesday night:
Piniella said he was "razzled" by some Cardinals fans who recognized him, but fortunately there was no confrontation like the one he had with a loudmouth fan at Wrigley Field last weekend.
"Razzled". Lou's getting kind of Casey Stengel-ish with the English language.
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I had nearly forgotten that Adam Wainwright used to be a reliever, but his record vs. the Cubs -- 17 appearances, only 8 starts -- reminds us that he spent a full year in the Cardinals' bullpen. His record vs. the Cubs is 2-3 with a 5.47 ERA, which has actually come down with the two decent starts he's had against them this year. Tonight might be a good time to rest Derrek Lee, who has hit only .211 (4-for-19) vs. Wainwright, who has walked 23 batters in 49 innings. It would be a really, really good idea to just wait him out -- unlike what the Cubs have done the last two nights.
Sean Marshall holds his own against virtually the entire Cardinal lineup, even Albert Pujols, who is 4-for-18 (all singles) against him. Only Brian Barden, who is 4-for-4, has hit him well. The Cardinals generally struggle vs. lefties and the Cubs have pitched well against St. Louis in this series. Keep up the good work, Sean; if he pitches well, Lou will have a tough decision to make regarding who to keep in the rotation (Marshall or Randy Wells) when Carlos Zambrano returns tomorrow.
There is national coverage again tonight, this time on the MLB Network, for those of you not in the St. Louis or Chicago areas, where it is on the local cable outlets. Usually, MLBN picks up one of the two teams' local coverage -- we'll see if they use Len & Bob. For today's other games see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Overflow comment threads will post today at 8:15 pm, 9:15 pm and 10 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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I have no life; I just wait by the computer for Al.
by santo4hof on May 21, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Same
just pray for a win in my spare time.
http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!
by Rudey on May 21, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no life
that makes 2 of us with no lives. I wait by tv for game time.
by ermilo2000 on May 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs!
Swept out of St. Louis? Hell No!
by JFCubFan on May 21, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We need this one...bad!
after all, it is the stinkin’ Redbirds
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on May 21, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can the White Sox
withdraw their trade offer if Peavy gets injured tomorrow night? It would seem that Peavy should be required to give an answer to whether he will waive his NTC before he is able to take the mound tomorrow night.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on May 21, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe
that Peavy had 24 hours to waive the NTC.
by Born Again Cubs Fan on May 21, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there was a specific time deadline.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 21, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sun Times...
by Born Again Cubs Fan on May 21, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no play for Mr Gray?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on May 21, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh SNAP!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brutal!
That is one DEAD penguin!
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't nature beautiful?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Also, I hate tuxedos. So double yes.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too...let's discuss it!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would be the first time, right?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It must be...
because I’m really nervous and feel awkward and I’m sure it will be over in less than 2 minutes.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna brag to your friends about it later?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will be in awe of me.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we all are in awe already
that would make us in awesome of you
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I've often wondered by I can't get my locker open
But I guess Lorraine Peterson has the answer. Thanks Lorraine!
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
by DTJchris on May 21, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's because you touch yourself at night
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhhhhh....
wat
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money."
--Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on May 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is SI
SI_JonHeyman Peavy deal to #chisox is dead says @ChrisDeLuca. chicago wasnt going to pay to induce him. jake talks to media in 30 mins 5 minutes ago from web
yay twitter.
by Allie on May 21, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made a separate post for discussing this.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 21, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we should talk Peavy
In every single thread, Al! Otherwise, it just won’t be the BCB I know…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just passing a long an update.
I’ll never do that again.
by Allie on May 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't let the cat out of the bag next time!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus if we dont talk about him in every thread
how will Hendry know we want him?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Want who?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hee Sop Choi
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please win this game, Chicago Cubs.
Get a win tonight, take two of three from the Pads, and it’s a 3-3 road trip. Please.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on May 21, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is it
that the last hour or so before game time feels the longest?
by Allie on May 21, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
same reason
i was never able to fall asleep on christmas eve
by bbates6 on May 21, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your parents were too loud in their bedroom?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they had a bedroom?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea, but it drags on so much!
Today is particularly bad because Yahoo reverted to Pacific time for me, so I thought the game was at 5:15 all day…only to get home and have to wait 3 more hours…
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou just told
Barry Larkin he should come play for our infield. lol on MLBN
by eternale1 on May 21, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good day to be a White Sox fan! First they lose by 19 runs, then Peavy rejects the deal.
A la McDonald’s, “I’M LOVIN IT!”
Please, offense, score some damn runs. Oswalt’s going for the Astros, so hopefully he can shut down the Suds.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money."
--Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on May 21, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I found this amusing
in regards to the White Sox 20-1 loss to the Twins today
“Scott Podsednik, signed to give the White Sox better baserunning, has been picked off first base in three straight games”
by Neifi Puppy on May 21, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriotesque!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a shock, same lineup except for freel.
Soriano – LF
Theriot – SS
Fukudome – CF
Lee – 1B
Bradley – RF
Fontenot – 2B
Soto – C
Freel – 3B
Marshall – P
by lexmarklover on May 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Freel is on our team?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he plays third?
Huh.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously saving Hoff for the hitter's paradise that is Petco
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got to get a life...
S)oriano – S)huffle
T)heriot – T)he
F)ukudome – F)reakin
L)ee – L)ineup
B)radley – B)ecause
F)ontenot – F)astballs
S)oto – S)hould
F)reel – F)ly
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on May 21, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clever
but keep your day job :P
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on May 21, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I think you're right..
unless Al wants to pay me for this.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on May 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have an expired CTA card on my BCB expense account...
…which is odd, since I live in Des Moines…
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go ahead and predict a blow-up from Lou...
…if this game doesn’t go well in the early innings.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money."
--Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on May 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that same thing today...
But then figured that he’s more likely to do it at home, don’t you think?
by kanderber on May 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can he throw 3rd base this time?
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 21, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need some life out of this so called offense today
It’s been a lousy enough week. Let’s get one back.
by chitownhawkeye on May 21, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least we're not the White Sox.
(1) 5 games under .500 in the worst division in baseball – CHECK
(2) Get rejected in a monster trade because the ace doesn’t wanna play for your craptastic team – CHECK
(3) Lose by 19 runs – CHECK
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money."
--Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on May 21, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I smell crustacean...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That last one could still come true
Hubris is not a proper sacrifice to the baseball gods.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
being a WhiteSux fan...
priceless!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on May 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are some things that money can't buy (like Jake Peavy).
For everything else, there’s Minnesota.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mighty bold
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
welp all I can say is Go Cubs
I’m dreading tonight’s game…
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on May 21, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Hope springs eternal.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, I hope
no pun intended (or is it?)
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on May 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My spring of hope is feeling a bit dry today
by Allie on May 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's too bad kiddo
Keep your (and our collective) chin up.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like this?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been a blah week
But a win would help
by chitownhawkeye on May 21, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of the Cubs
i’ve had a pretty good week. Just had a crappy day.
by Allie on May 21, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this one
Classic.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling rather sanguine about it
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ye of little faith.
shakes head sadly
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he needs to get back on hope st.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on May 21, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our beloved Phil Rogers said:
“Peavy will be in Boston by the trade deadline” on Chicago Tribune Live. Oh, sage of Michigan Avenue! Thank you for that priceless jewel!
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be something.
Especially since he reportedly is only really looking at the midwest and National League.
by redward on May 21, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta has been rumored as another location
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two other writers on the show said so
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the last thing the BoSox need...
is another starter.
Visit bloggingthebracket.com, SBNation's bracketology/hoops rambling site!
by Chris Dobbertean on May 21, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBN should have their own crew tonight...they have for past Thursday games.
They use local telecasts on Saturdays.
EI on Comcrap has both feeds available, thank God.
Visit bloggingthebracket.com, SBNation's bracketology/hoops rambling site!
by Chris Dobbertean on May 21, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MLBN is blacked out for me right now
Interesting development.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Boston-Toronto on MLBN-SD
MLBN-HD is blacked out and my Directv box tells me to go to hell on this channel.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 21, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, is there an over/under yet on what inning Lou explodes tonight?
I’m thinking the sixth.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Marissa Miller going to be in the dugout again?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For her sake, I hope not.
And what is Demp doing to his leg in that picture?
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holding it all together
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on May 21, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um...you mean Kerry Wood?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 21, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Wood
As in the pitcher, not the other Wood.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
by DTJchris on May 21, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or is that Wood?
Whoops. Maybe I should actually read what I type before posting.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might be the only time
I have seen Lilly smile
by bheidge on May 21, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's win this one, Cubs!
No game thread for me today… gotta head to work.. :(
Will tune into the gameday audio archive and the gamethread this evening — and I fully expect to bask in a Cubs win courtesy of our new Lazarus offense (in which any number of players return from the dead)…
See ya’ll another time and play nice now…
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 21, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and chance Al
when you said
Peavy will make his scheduled start against the Cubs tomorrow night.
you meant to say
Peavy will make his scheduled start FOR the Cubs tomorrow night.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 21, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chicago Cubs are On The Air!
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who?
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I’m a little deaf in that ear.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game thread up
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 38
by znohitter on May 21, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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