What about Brandon Wood?
So I was reading up on some fantasy news and I saw that Brandon Wood (who must have killed Mike Sciocsa's cat or something) was yet again demoted to triple A recently. Since being there he's been playing exclusively at shortstop. People don't seem to know if the Angels have him playing there because they're tired of their own options at SS (Aybar) or if they're doing it to get him traded. I admittedly don't know anything about his defensive skills or range, but I do know the kid can flat out hit, and maybe we could get him and bump Theriot over to 2B? He could also backup 3B theoretically while Rami is out...
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If it lands a good reliever
Then I say in theory it could be persuable. I think our hitting is doing an acceptable job, our starters are fantastic but we just need more help bridging from the starter to Marmol. The fact that we are still only 2 games behind with our top hitter and top pitcher out is a testament to the depth and ability of the team as a whole, minus the bullpen (which I still dont have much confidence in Gregg)
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our hitting is doing an acceptable job???
what team have you been watching?
Actually, Wood has primarily played shortstop coming up...
He was moved to 3B because the Angels don’t have a 3B and they had an abundance of SS options. And even in the big leagues he’s split time between SS and 3B.
I’m not sure that his demotion is evidence that the Angels would be willing to move him so much as it’s evidence that they don’t have room for him right now. Wood is still the most priced position player prospect in the Angels’ system, and the Angels are notorious for not trading their prospects.
Short
He wasn’t a very good fielder at short because he was slow. Wood is a low key Adam Dunn, Ks or homers. He could actually develop well but he still will cost a pretty penny because he’s been one of their top 3 prospects for years, along with Adenhart.
Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!
We "had" our best player there.
Still, I’m sure that the cost would be prohibitive for Brandon Wood.
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You don't just trade for a low-20's 3B when you have your heir and your star at that positon.
Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!
You do if he can play a better SS than our current one
and its a little late to be calling Fontenot’s year " a slow start"….so The Riot could easily play second
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Eh, I dunno.
He had a decent April. And the Cubs have played only 38 games.124 to go. Still sounds relatively early to me.
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Its almost June
Its cutting it close to being a flukey start or proof positive
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I'll assume thats directed towards me
b/c Fontenot and Bradley will be Co-MVPs of the world series this year
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I just believe that players can go a long time looking bad
and not be bad. It happens all the time. My sigh wasn’t directed towards you personally. It seemed the whole BCB community yesterday was ready to give up on the whole team.
Derrek Lee is good.
Well, these were two legitimate concerns
And so far theyre proving to be true; Milton has been injured, and apparently cant catch up to NL fastballs, and Fontenot has been scuffling….so I think the concerns people have, whether theyre hyperbolic or not, its too early to say, but I think theyre well founded
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
You serious about Fontenot?
What kind of team that fancies itself a contender would refuse to admit this mistake? The guy is awful right now.
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It's time for the Fontenot Experiment to end.
The guy is clearly outmatched.
If the Angels are never going to give Wood a chance, by all means, kick the tires. He could be a great SS for a long time.
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Fontenot would be fine if he didn't have to face LHP.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
It sure seemed that way until this year.
He’s only hitting .232 vs. righties this year. Which, of course, still bests his performance against LHP (.063) by a ton.
I’m coming around to the idea that Lou was using Fontenot in situations likely to maximize his value prior to this year. Now, as an everyday player, he is woefully overmatched.
And all so that we could free up the money to give Aaron Miles $5 million dollars.
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Wood is playing SS because that's where he's played most of his pro career...
The Angels currently have more experienced and MLB-ready options at SS, and thus they’ve played him out of position at 3B when they could. But rather than keeping him on the bench, they’re getting him regular work.
If anything, I think they’ll move one of their other position players (either Aybar, Figgins, or Izturis) once Wood is ready to play everyday. I suspect that he and Kendrick are still #1-2 in the Angels’ long-term priority.
I think getting Brandon Wood
would be a much better idea than getting Mark DeRosa, especially if their relative costs are at all similar.
The difficulty is in getting the Angels to trade one of their prospects.
But we need a realistic backup at SS and 3B and Wood does both. Plus, he could surpass our current SS.
If I heard the Cubs had made this move, I would jump for joy.
Derrek Lee is good.
by DGU on May 21, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd definitely take Brandon Wood if the price weren't too high.
The reason you want a DeRosa instead is for his experience, though.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'd rather take a backup at SS than experience.
What will we do if Theriot needs to go on the DL?
Derrek Lee is good.
Good point.
You do NOT want Aaron Miles or Bobby Scales there on an everyday basis.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Hoff at SS?
I mean, if it was suggested he could learn 2B why not SS (sarcasm)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
How on earth is he not in the lineup?
This team is not hitting. Hoffpauir absolutely crushed the only pitch he saw last night… and then tonight we get 9 more innings of sleepytime failure from our crew of lousy, old, and beat up hitters.
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Yeah, why Hoff didn't start tonight over Bradley - no clue
Bradley hits left handed hitters better so he should start tomorrow against Peavy.
Hoff really should have started tonight against Wainwright
How about Koyie Freakin' Hill?
Also crushing the ball and I’m pretty sure my grandma can get a ball in the air out of the infield. I’m not even asking for base hits, just fly balls. It’s sad watching Soto at the plate
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Yep, this is a key need.
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Someone on ESPN referred to him as the next Troy Glaus
So I say, go for it
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Brandon Wood has spent more time at Triple A then Felix Pie
2,600 minor league at bats and counting. Might I suggest that the luster is off this once labeled big time prospect.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
Does that make him more MLB ready
or a bust? Corey Patterson has 1400 and counting and he stinks. Aramis had 1500 and he turned out okay.
Bobby Scales has 3,303, not sure what is proved by the number of minor league at bats given every player is different. Hoffpauir has 2400+ and you now love him.
Some guys come to the minors out of college, others start younger. I don’t think at bats is a good measurement.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Well..
You make good points. Bobby Scales is not a major league ballplayer, but I’ll ignore that name for sake of argument.
All I know is that Brandon Wood must have something wrong with him if he can’t overtake Erick Aybar, Chone Figgins and Maicer Izturis as an option on the left side of the infied. Especially on an Angels team that has struggled to come up with offensive consistency for a few years. Plus there is always demand for 3rd baseman and shortstops around baseball, so why haven’t the Angels been able to spin Wood for something they could really use in their annual quest to win a World Series?
It doesn’t compute. Call me a cynic on Brandon Wood. Fortunately we are blessed with DGU on this board and he is a scout for the Angels I believe.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
With Wood (Brandon),
I’ve assumed the Angels crazy trade demands have more impact on the logjam on the left side than anything else. Instead of getting something worthwile for one of the four, rumors always have them asking for the world and getting nothing.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
BLou's Clues
I am not a scout for the Angels. Two denials in two days – what’s next?
Anyway, there’s definitely risk with a prospect like Brandon Wood. He strikes out a lot and hasn’t hit in his brief, brief MLB opportunities. The Angels certainly could be hoping he doesn’t get exposed and can be traded.
However, it’s worth noting that the Angels rarely trade their excess young players. They’d rather see them wither on the vine, it seems, than trade them. Plus, Aybar, Figgins, and Izturis are the last speedy players on that club, and we know how speed plays for the Angels. I think that’s Wood’s problem breaking in there.
Derrek Lee is good.
Me thinks Brandon Wood is not all he's cracked up to be
Sounds like an update format of Dallas McPherson, another highly touted Angel prospect who never amounted to beans. I know McPherson has back issues, but regardless he is an unqualified flop.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
Yeah, except Wood just turned 24...
… time enough for him to still establish himself.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Isn't that the argument applied to Felix Pie?
Look, does it matter if he is “only” 24 if it looks like he isn’t going to cut it in the big leagues? Felix Pie is “only” 24 but it’s fairly clear at this stage that he isn’t going to hack it at this level.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
Couldnt that make him more accessible to the Cubs though
I mean his value has plummeted over the past few seasons, much like Pie
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Jack Wilson is on the market, and it's also safe to assume Cristian Guzman could be dealt for.
However, neither option is a significant improvement over Theriot.
Wilson was discussed in a deal with Seattle today, to swap shortstops with Betancourt. Wilson’s a pretty darn good fielding SS, but he has no power at all, and has a lower AVG and OBP than Theriot.
Guzman is making $8 mil this year… and you know the Nationals are gonna want to move that. However, he just provides a little more range than Theriot, without making a significant defensive improvement. And his OBP is significantly less.
Sadly, I don’t know how we’re going to be able to improve our defense at SS right now.
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I stated several months ago that Jack Wilson may be an option Hendry goes to
Wilson is definitely available and has been. He’s a plus defensive shortstop, and presumably he could free up Ryan Theriot to be a super-sub who plays everyday across the infield.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
Well...
A. Wilson can hit better than Fontenot and Miles I’m pretty sure
B. Wilson is a plus glove at shortstop
C. Wilson doesn’t play everyday when Ramirez returns, rather he splits time with Theriot on those days Theriot isn’t playing 2nd base
Jack Wilson is a REASONABLE and not pie-in-the-sky type of acquisition. I’d love to have something better, but that choice might not exist. And Wilson WOULD help the Cubs in my estimation.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
Can Wilson catch HRs?
If not, he’s not the answer to the Cubs problem.
I disagree with point A...
Wilson cannot hit better than Fontenot. He can hit about as well as Miles though. He can hit better than Fontenot has been hitting the last few weeks, but so can Fontenot.
Wilson would have been a great acquisition instead of Miles. And if we could get rid of Miles, I’d be all for getting Wilson. But with Freel and Miles already on the roster, I can’t see taking on ANOTHER guy who can’t hit.
Wilson's making $7.4 mil this year
And he doesn’t hit the ball worth a damn. The acquisition doesn’t make for good value, and neither does Guzman. Unfortunately.. those are the top options on the trade market right now.
Orlando Cabrera might be a player who gets moved… but he’s 34 years old and hitting .244. Edgar Renteria is also an option, but he seems to be in rapid decline. Jhonny Peralta could be an option if the Indians keep tanking, and want to move salary. He’s signed through 2010, with an option for 2011. But, I think the Indians could afford to keep him at $3.65 mil this year.
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See, I would flip this around.
Leave Theriot the everyday shortstop but pick up Wilson as a defensive replacement. Maybe give him a start a week. He does appear to be a great glove man.
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I Would Be Thrilled If The Cubs Got Wood
Make him the everyday shortstop and I absolutely guarantee he’d hit 30-40 homers playing a full home season at Wrigley. He’s that much of a power hitter. What I can’t guarantee is most people would like his defense. Most people MIGHT, but the jury is still out on Wood as a SS. 3B, no problem.
The Angels do so many things right, but what they don’t do right is trust their system. For whatever reason, they haven’t installed Wood at SS instead of Erick Aybar or 3B instead of Chone Figgins, or even at DH full time. The Angels have a habit of developing a lot of guys in the minors, especially position players, and then they stagnate. They don’t turn them over in a trade nor do the play them. Right now, Brandon Wood, Matt Brown, Sean Rodriguez, Reggie Willits, Booby Wilson and Terry Evans are langushing in the minors or on the bench because the Angels refuse to make the most of what they have. All of those guys deserve a long term shot atproving they can play somewhere in the bigs. That’s why I think if the Angels would change, they could get Peavy in a heartbeat and not miss a thing.
Wood is ready. He has nothing left to prove in AAA. If the Cubs could find a way to get him it COULD be the trade of a decade.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
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Brandon Wood has logged over 2,600 minor league at bats and has been at Triple A so long he is now fully vested in a Pacific Coast League pension. Wood can’t break through on an Angel team that is ALWAYS looking for offense and where Chone Figgins (aka Juan Pierre), Erick Aybar and Maicer Izturis are the guys “blocking” him at the big league level?!? Something is very wrong with this picture.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
Bullshit
One of Scioscia’s weaknesses is his insistence on sticking with a formula. Wood’s ready, more than ready. I could psychoanalyze why Scioscia has this block about Wood, but suffice to say a lot other people can’t figure it out either.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Sorry, I'm not buyin' it
Mike Scioscia is one of the best managers of this generation and has had no problem handing out playing time to young catchers, Howie Kendrick and Erick Aybar. If Scioscia is not bullish on Brandon Wood then that speaks volumes to me.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
I just don't understand
Why, if he’s still considered a top prospect, the Angels aren’t using him. And when they do call him up, he rides the pine for 4 straight games, get’s like three pinch hit at-bats, and is sent back down again. I really wish the Cubs would try to make a run at the guy… Oh well…
No one understands it.....
….. all these guys-Brandon Wood, Matt Brown, Sean Rodriguez, Reggie Willits, Bobby Wilson and Terry Evans, should all be given a shot somewhere if not for the Angels.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
The Angels are the Anti-Twins
They have a great minor league system in terms of talent but they don’t develop their players to fit needs.
Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!
Kendry Morales
Was finally given a real shot and has paid off thus far, but his arrival was also much later than most thought when the Angels first signed him. Maybe their theory is why have guys learn on the ML team when they are just chewing up years until free agency.
My guess is Wood would cost more than we could give at this point. Though if he can play SS it has a nice rebuilding feel to it also in case the Cubs do tank this year (still have faith though). That he’d be bumping Fontenot from the lineup and could be an inexpensive SS for a few years makes him tempting, though.
by BucknerKongCardenal on May 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions
Wood got sent home from winter leauges because he was not hitting
I have been following Brandon wood since he hit all those home runs in High A. But he has just not paned out. Maybe a change of scenery would do him good, Maybe he can follow Bobby Jenks pattern of leaving the Halos and getting to Chicago and tearing it up.
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