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Did we score?

I’m done watching the game.

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice error by the "best left-fielder in baseball"

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on May 22, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Doc!

I hear you guys got walloped the other day from a Twins fan friend of mine! What happened?

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PEAVY TO WHITE SOX!

SIKE!

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubbies Win 2003 NL Pennant!

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on May 22, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some one send a note to Ronny...

We need a Hair Piece sacrifice to break this slump…

Get out the lighter fluid and matches…

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on May 22, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who cares about Shea...

I’m talking some Voodoo

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on May 22, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hasnt swung the bat all night

First pitch hacking

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 11:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hacking?

Ever think it was a good pitch? Did you see the play? Talk about bad luck.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and if it weren't for a lucky kick he'd be on first

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 K's for Sori

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano with an 0-2 count?!

Get the heck outa here!

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

10 K's in last 15 ABs

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he's not worth it

I don’t care how hot he gets

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he didn’t carry the team on his back during the stretch last year…

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

Who’s better that you reasonably can get?

And don’t tell me you won’t be the first guy cheering when he hits his next game-winning homer.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know anyone else

His lackadasical attitude makes my ass pucker. 0-2 count after 0-2 count drives me nuts.

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and i will but not because its him, it will be because the cubs won

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bricks is right. It was a bad signing.

He’s way too inconsistent and a butcher in the field. Unfortunately, we’re going to be watching this for a few more years

by Mapmaker on May 22, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A career .280 hitter with almost 280 home runs is a terrible pick up… You’re right…

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure he can carry a team.

He was the main reason we won the Central in 07 but times like this drive me insane. He’s either flaming hot or ice cold.

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For 18m annually? Almost anyone.

sori is a dramatic cut below his salary peers.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look on the bright side

That Pujols guy makes almost $14 mill.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I predict

a third Cubs hit tonight.

"One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth."

by jaxinnabox on May 22, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I gotta laugh

at all of you baseball “minds” that just last night said, “Oh, we at least will get to feast on the crappy Pads!”

HA!

Idiots!

You didn’t know they won 6 in a row? You think this Cubs team is so “talented”?

BULLSHIT!

In my opinion, they’ll be below .500 after next weekend when the Dodgers come to town.

Hope they can pull it together before A-Ram comes back, and they’re too buried to come back!

by The E-Man on May 22, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NOT A TROLL!!

I’ve been here for a long time!

One of the few that calls it realistically instead of blind hope constantly.

I have the same right as you, “znohitter”.

by The E-Man on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness to E-Man,

He has indeed been here forever. And ever. ;-)

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on May 23, 2009 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Troll!

I find your views interesting and informative.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

E, with all due respect,

if you’re going to get like this, you probably should take a break. Both from the Cubs and from BCB.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right -

it isn’t worth it right now.

Later.

by The E-Man on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

annnnnd you guys just made his night

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not a troll

He’s just very frustrated.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here

I’ve never heard of him. I thought he was from the Padres site.

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's

been around here a long time. He’s a good Cubs fan.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't doubt that a fair number of the trolls here are.

But I really get tired of people being overwhelmingly negative to the point that the feel in necessary to criticize and condemn those of us who wish to have a rosier view.

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine.

Don’t direct that at the other posters. Direct it at the players or management, where it belongs.

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I recall, I posted a word of caution yesterday

I posted a cautionary line last night….ah, here it is

An earlier post mentions the ‘weak’ Padres…they haven’t lost since they were chewed out by Bud Black In Chicago. Winning 6 in a row at Petco, sweeping the Reds and the Giants.

Beware…..since this is 1984 celebration weekend, it might get nasty.

I am attending one game and would not be caught near the Park Saturday, the ‘official’ day. (Thankfully, I work) I choose not to attend Sunday, I have another project to finish.

This isn’t a great weekend to be a Cubs fan in SD. But I do want to see Z against Peavy, even if it’s a loss. I’ve seen enough losses here, so what’s another…

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 22, 2009 7:07 PM EDT

The Pads have now won 7 in a row. Don’t say you weren’t warned.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 23, 2009 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This place is getting ugly

and I am making worse. Good night.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this team looks pathetic right now

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 22, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't Worry... Neal Cotts is pitiching

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whew

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Surprise. a HR from Adrian Gonzalez.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neal Cotts is garbage

what is the point of a LOOGY if he can’t get anybody out??

"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly

by ambrosiadreams on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need more

ROOGYs

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on May 23, 2009 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cotts = sucks

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frustration is an excuse to trash your team?

I don’t get people here. The team or a player struggles and you just crap on them. I bet you’re the same idiot boo-birds that inhabit Wrigley. Jesus, what kind of fan ditches their team when things get tough?

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Most of them?

Ever see the stands at any ballpark come end of the season?

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in St. Louis. Busch is packed no matter what.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

And I’m a Cardinals fan. The last couple series last year were pretty slim on the crowd – but yes, generally, Busch is packed. I was getting tickets to the last series vs. the d-bags for a few bucks.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs series sold out. Brewer series was close. Not sure what you’re talking about there.

I did the first pitch tickets to the Royals today. Boring game until the late innings. :)

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, early season, or when in contention, it’s ridiculous around here. Later on, if the Cards are out of it, attendance does drop off. (not to Florida levels, but not sold out).

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, but still. The ballpark may not sell out, but the fans don’t start trashing players. I mean, this Kalil Greene thing has struck me as odd on many different levels, but typically you’ll see Cards fans want TLR to move a struggling player down in the line up, not trade him away.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree on that entirely.

Cub fans, especially casual ones, get very, very violent about things. It’s unbelievable.

I’ve heard some boos at Busch, but nothing like the ones at Wrigley. I think there’s just a certain group at Wrigley who I would classify as giant douchebags.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very few real Cubs fan go to Wrigley anymore.

It’s a sad story.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too damn expensive

I lived in Chicago for a year – I couldn’t afford to compete with the suburban rich kids who bought tickets with mommy and daddy’s money to get wasted and be dicks on the red line. (not that I’m bitter)

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that’s one thing I like about the Lou. First Pitch tickets are an amazing deal, even if you only get SRO. Plus all the other ticket deals, for someone like me who just loves baseball, it means I spend too much time at Busch.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

When I work from home I grab the first pitch tickets a lot. $11 is crazy, and I’ve sat in the 100 level a couple times with them. Big thumbs up.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's 16 bucks in the upper reserved

Those are fine seats.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you can't criticize stupid roster decisions....

Then what is the point of a team-based message board?

To publicly agree with the team’s insane and counterproductive decisions?

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with Cubs fans

and it isn’t entirely their fault, is that normal fluctuations during a season are taken as a sign that it’s over for them. They’ve been burned a lot, so it’s easy to see.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh slam the managment all you want. But just slamming a slumping player and talking about how much your team sucks when they hit a rough stretch is ridiculous. Everyone is going to lose 50, and sometimes they’ll come like this.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team is awful, in terms of construction.

hendry failed rather spectacularly, and if this season means his job, his successor has a tough job ahead. The big contracts on this team are set to get even bigger.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly nothing will get done until the sale is done. And after that it’s anybody’s guess how the Cubs will spend.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need to get better in the player development department

I’m sick of seeing other teams in the Central bring up superstars (Braun, Pujols, etc.)

by Mapmaker on May 22, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We had pitchers lined up for days, but traded most away.

As far as the Cardinals go, they have so much talent in their farm system they’ll be competitive for years to come.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers too

But that comes from many years of high draft picks

by Mapmaker on May 22, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols was a fluke

No doubt about that one. 13th round draft pick? Ridiculous.

Still, the Cubs have a crap farm system. One of the blogs rated them somewhere around 28th in MLB.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spending is irrelevant.

Hendry has spent like a drunken sailor. As GM, he and his staff are charged with making the right moves – be they trades, free agent acquisitions, player development & promotion, whatever – and they have simply screwed the pooch this year (as of now). I hope as much as anyone that it turns around.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on May 23, 2009 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to worry until we are under .500

….is one of my least favorite sayings. Right after “it’s only May.”

People need to be traded and fired.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember 2007?

They were playing like crap. People were traded and fired. And things turned around.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Devil's Advocate here

The Cubs are still 21-18. The injury bug has owned them the past few weeks. If the guys come together and get healthy, they’re a very fearsome team.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the guys on the roster get paid too, they need to start earning it.

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come Together...

right now…
over a six run rally…

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is that's starting to become a very big "if"

It’s almost June, our offense is in freefall….by th etime we get every body back we could be completely buried.

by bluekoolaide on May 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, all I know is

They’ll lose no ground tonight.

The problem with Cubs fans, as I alluded to above, is that they take season fluctuations and think it means the world is crashing down.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with Cubs fans, as I alluded to above, is that they take season fluctuations and think it means the world is crashing down

THIS

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no such thing as being completely buried in today's MLB

It seems like every other year, somebody comes from nowhere to make a run into the playoffs. Unfortunately, our Cubbies aren’t known for miracle finishes.

by Mapmaker on May 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luckily the parity in the central this year is going to keep everyone close.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay.

End 7, 4-0 Pads.

I will seriously trade a kidney for some FREAKING OFFENSE!!

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Only if that trade value is 5+ runs per kidney

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A hit!

told ya

"One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought you ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth."

by jaxinnabox on May 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah! D-Lee gave it a good ride...

just short of the warning track

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at he Yankees.

ARod came back and they catch fire. Even if he’s not hitting he changes the way you pitch lineups. Look at Texieras numbers after he came back. They are outstanding. We need Rammy back. If we can keep it close till then we’ll be ok.

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Teix and A-rod are elite players.

The cubs repeatedly give elite money to non-elite players, and blow the difference on $3M middle relievers and backup infielders.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Aram will come back 100%

Dislocated shoulder, I think a repeat of a past injury, he’s going to have a hard time carrying this team on his back unless the other guys contribute, which they may.

I’d like to say I’m full of schadenfreude for the Cubs, but I’m not. It sucks ass to watch your team play terribly, especially when you weren’t supposed to be bad. Plus half my friends are Cub fans.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does get profoundly disturbed

in times like these.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

E-Man is prolly Santo posting from the booth

"They say we don't look good on paper. Well, we don't play on paper." Joe McCarthy (1926)

by Bricks and Ivy on May 22, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG! It all makes sense!

Wait, no, no it doesn’t. Sorry. Carry on.

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoff-powerless

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

contact-less

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's strange

I’ve been a Cub fan since the early 70’s and I never remember a streak like this. I mean, sure we lost games, etc., but this might be the most anemic I’ve ever seen the Cubs’ offense over a period of time.

by bluekoolaide on May 22, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe worse pitching, bad all around baseball....

but even the worst Cubs’ teams of the 70’s and 80’s could score runs. This is absolutely pathetic. I honestly don’t think they could hit AAA pitching right now.

by bluekoolaide on May 22, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

We’re all relatively baseball-savvy here; no need to labor the “they’re pressing” point. That’s pretty obvious.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on May 23, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never seen 2 months like this

To start a year. 6 starters and miles all hitting .200?

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Scales reminds me of

Tuffy Rhodes.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As in a flash in the pan?

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rhodes was big

in Japan for a good long while

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I meant a f-i-t-p for the Cubs.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm big in Belgium

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on May 23, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That will be

the Last of the Mujicas.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh....

Mid 8, Cubs 0, Pads 4. Cubs strand 2.

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What does that make it?

2 runs in the last 35 innings?

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's only 10

The LOB column in gameday doesn’t only count 2 out LOB. Otherwise there would have been bases loaded in every inning so far.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHA!

NOW those totals make sense. Thanks!

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see that there.

Excellent… it all comes together… [wrings hands]

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think al said

cubs record right now is almnost the same as this same date last year

by brian custer on May 22, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They haven’t played as many games, and the win percentage is a little lower, but it’s compareable.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they didn't go to the WS last year.

So if that was supposed to be encouraging, it didn’t work.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but we won 90++

games and flukilly lost on the 1st round playoffs. that prob won’t happen this year

by brian custer on May 22, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a bullshit loss

to a bullshit team team led by an on-fire ’roider (manny)

by brian custer on May 22, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think they were led

by their pitching staff. who dominated us. i don’t think it was a fluke. our hitters weren’t good enough to hit their pitchers. so we lost.

by amory blaine on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we lose that series

regardless of whether they have manny

by amory blaine on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our hitters went cold at the worst possible time. Check the numbers and you’ll see they were pretty good.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

our hitters feasted

on subpar pitching most of the season. billingsley and lowe, unfortunately, weren’t subpar. i don’t care what the numbers were during the regular season. the fact is, they got dominated in the playoffs. the “we went cold at the wrong time” works the first time it happens but after the second consecutive season, you begin to think that this cast perhaps isn’t up to the job. i don’t know. i hope they are, but i have eyes.

by amory blaine on May 22, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You worry about making the playoffs first, THEN worry about a WS. If you make the second season anything can happen.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which bank?

I don’t trust them.

by Mapmaker on May 22, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think the bank analogies lost some fire over the past year or so…

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I believe they'll win the division

but nothing tells me they can compete with other division winners.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The, ahem, Dodgers

Are really quite good.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep even now

without the juicer.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering it was a woman's drug

it’s Manny being womanny.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, after being a fan for over 40 years

all I’m concerned about is going to the WS. They never have in my life, and after the terrible job JH did this off season, I have no reason to believe they’re going this year. I don’t care if they win 116 games, as Lou has already done once in his career.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I ever become as jaded a Cubs fan as you, please don’t let me watch baseball anymore.

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's totally empty.

not only are these teams rather clearly headed in different directions, but this year’s team has outperformed its pythag so far. So they’ve been lucky AND they’re getting worse.

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by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pythag?

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pythagorean record. Expected W/L

Based on run differential.

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by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't know

games were won and lost on paper.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure.

The official scorer’s card. :P

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's just witchcraft

Some math stuff, blah blah. ;)

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you think they sell

so many tickets in the offseason?

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 23, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you seriously not understand math?

I’m saying that, for all of the Cubs failures, their on field results have been moderately better than expected based on their production.

Your post is a complete non-sequitur.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and the Diamondbacks

made it to the NL title series and allowed more runs than they scored.

I fully understand the concept, thanks. But numbers don’t always explain everything.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're familiar with the concept, that's worse.

If you know what I’m referring to, then you know that I’m not saying that games are “played on paper”, or that the team’s performance in relation to its pythag is somehow predictive.

I thought you were just uninformed, but apparently you’re being disingenuous.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why

bring it up in the first place?

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because the original post....

….posited that b/c our 2009 record is similar to our 2008 record on today’s date, that the team had performed better than its critics would believe.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gregg

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on May 22, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know

he hits homeruns in bunches and it’s helpful when he does that, but his is a bad bad contract. there’s something about him that i just don’t like.

by amory blaine on May 22, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gwynn "not as solidly built as his father"

Errrr, yeah, he’s not like 300 pounds.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He may be Hendry's worst signing ever.

It’s the equivalent of giving Jose Macias $5M.

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by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m tellin’ you. Be patient.

by Mike Martin on May 23, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patient for Aaron Miles?

I don’t think we have a choice…. He’s ours until the end of next season with that godawful contract.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it isn't

And you know that. Cut the hyperbole.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, smart guy, what's your pick?

Even Eyre and Howry gave some production. Even LaTroy did. So did Jacque.

Miles is completely useless, especially when we discovered he couldn’t make the throw from 3b. He represents a total waste of $5m and a roster spot.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles K.

One down. 15 K for the SD pitching.

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no fair

my posts are coming from a lot farther away.. lol

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 22, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Yeah, but it’s already tomorrow there… how does that work?

My head hurts…

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Cus have K’ed 15 times tonight

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 22, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

15 Ks for the Cubs

Yikes. Yeah, Peavy is freakin’ good, but wow.

by rencelas on May 22, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Loves to hit relief pitching, doesn't he?

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes any day". - AJ Pierzynski
http://lostinthevines.blogspot.com/

by lostinthevines on May 23, 2009 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are you posting witchcraft?

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

OW.

I just snorted pop out my nose. Props but -2 BCB points… :P

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 22, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just got on--better late than never right?

Still haven’t come down from seeing the miricle shot from Lebron—unbelievable—I came on to see an unbelievable comeback right?

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 22, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

from this "unbelievable" offense. .. lol

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 22, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hopefully Lee

he’ll be the one that could have the chance to tie it..

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on May 22, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just walk baby!

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 22, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there it is!

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 22, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there is that base clogging Dusty warned us about. .

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 22, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well.... Lee used to be so good.

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by D98 on May 22, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gahhh

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 22, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 runs in 36 innings.

Cub Power

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on May 22, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

darkest before the dawn

there were some positives 2night. peavy the psycho was prolly a liitle over-motivated

by brian custer on May 23, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Positives... Not with that offense.

15k, and what, 4 singles, no runs?

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Lee gets things together soon. I’m starting to wonder if his off-field issues could be causing some of this?

by Mike Martin on May 22, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What issues are you referring to?

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His daughter, mainly.

by Mike Martin on May 23, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She's fine - doesn't have the eye condition.

Try and keep up. :)

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

later everyone. .maybe we will score a run (or 12) tomorrow.

Baseball is like church--many attend, few understand. - Leo Durocher

by cubswinnow on May 23, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This team's got major issues.

Lee is a below average hitter now, and all he provides is defense.

I’d forget about getting Peavy. We need some f***** hitting.

Milton Bradley will win the 2009 NL MVP

by Milton's Gameboard on May 23, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have the hitting

They just need to start doing it.

by Mike Martin on May 23, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have some hitting.

Lee is never going to be above be again, and 2008 mike Fontenot isn’t walking through that door….

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weird

Missing words. Lee is done being above average, and I worry that Aramis’ injury could send him into a similar multi-year tailspin.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, forget it

Now we’re worried about something that likely won’t happen..

I swear, Cubs fans sometimes deserve all the criticism they get.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"likely won't" is big talk.

How can you possibly say that? First off, when Aram got hurt for the Pirates, it took a while for his power to return. Secondly, this is a reinjury, which can be trickier. Thirdly, he’s older now.

It’s ridiculous to say with any certainty how aramis is going to rebound. I’m not the one speculating.

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You certainly are

“I worry that Aramis’ injury could send him into a similar multi-year tailspin.”

IIRC, the last time this happened was nine years ago.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll go slowly for you.

D98: “I worry that a negative outcome could occur.”

NBF: “that likely won’t happen”

Example 1 is discussion. Example 2 is a prediction, and yours was coupled with your typical condescension. “oh, those stupid pessimist cub fans. How can they not see that ALL IS WELL?!”

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by D98 on May 23, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who said 'all is well'?

Things are not well right now. But it’s no use putting a negative spin on future things that aren’t likely to turn out that way.

You, sir, are an idiot.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that was disappointing.

I think I’m off towards bed, folks. Have a good night!

Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39

by znohitter on May 23, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

13 left on base.

That will do it right there.

by Mike Martin on May 23, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Actually, it’s amazing they had that many baserunners, considering how few hits they had.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 23, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrek Lee looks to me like he's hurt, and if so...

… I hope he gets better. Lee’s a great guy and I wish him nothing but success.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on May 23, 2009 12:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If he's been hurt for two years....

….and the official line is that this neck injury dates back to 2007, then what we see is now what were going to get.

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