Breaking News: Rich Harden To The DL
by Al on May 22, 2009 5:42 PM CDT
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I don't have details or a link yet, but in case you were wondering about today's roster move to activate Carlos Zambrano, Rich Harden has been placed on the 15-day DL (retroactive to May 18) with what is being termed a "mid-back strain".
Details to follow.
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didn't see that coming
If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.
by mrtobby on May 22, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any word
Any word on how long he’ll be out?
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on May 22, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have any more details about Harden, but...
… Randy Wells will start in his place tomorrow night.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 22, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we ought to get used to
randy wells starting.
starting pitchers get hurt. he’s our #6.
and he’s cheap, so ricketts will be interested in him getting a shot in 2010. no breaking news on that, but it makes sense to me.
by tim815 on May 22, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells has done a good job so far.
If he keeps it up, we haven’t lost anything with this DL move.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 22, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that depends on how you look at it
Wells could have gone to the pen and made our relief pitching stronger.
Now, he won’t. At least, not in the short term.
by elgato on May 22, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wells has looked god in two starts
but not dominant, which Harden can be and often is
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on May 22, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells is a god?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 22, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but it's a little 'g' god.
Like the god of biscuts, or the god of 12AX7 tubes.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39
by znohitter on May 22, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That 12AX7 god...
….is really a good one. A little temperamental at times, but WAY more fun that the god of NPN CMOS transistors!
"[I]f we get a Jumbotron, I can't pull the instant replay thing on all the rookies. Every time there's a good play, we're like, 'Oh, look at the replay,' and you get the rookies to look at the scoreboard." - Ryan Dempster, 2 January 2009
by CaughtInTheVines on May 22, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How
Do you know that Ricketts will be interested in getting him a shot in 2010?
by Galvan316 on May 22, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, will probably
harden, iirc, is a free agent.
ricketts will want to limit the amount spent on huge contracts.
it is a short leap to….. harden probably won’t be back.
if wells is a decent #4 option, look for harden and marshall (or someone else that is inexpensive) hooking up with lilly, z, and demp.
by tim815 on May 22, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too early for contract talk
imho.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on May 22, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That means the season is over
of course.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on May 22, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm always looking years ahead
it’s just how i am in pretty much everything
by tim815 on May 22, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
he was gonna go down at some point.
Could’ve been worse news.
by Allie on May 22, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet DeRosa could've started if we had him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 22, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So obviously this means one thing....
PEAVY!
by Galvan316 on May 22, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GAH!
No.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 22, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That was exactly the reaction I was looking for. Lol
by Galvan316 on May 22, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to help!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 22, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly
This trip to San Diego is just so that Jim can save on the airfare.
by hmlee on May 22, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh obviously
I mean its almost like MLB (Whose schedule was printed out months and months ago) Knew this scenario was going to happen.
Its clearly obvious that Peavy will be dealt to the Cubs and most likely in time for the start of this game too.
Obviously
by Galvan316 on May 22, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See?
It’s so easy when you think about it for a minute! ;)
by hmlee on May 22, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine the excitement
The deal is announced before the first pitch. . . Peavy trots off the mound into the Cubs dugout, changes in the clubhouse, and re-emerges to start for us.
Disney channel.
by leothelip on May 22, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine was
“Ugh! NO!”
But Gah will suffice.
by Allie on May 22, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
beautiful!
LOL, I do what I can around here.
by Galvan316 on May 22, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. Now Patton gets to carry the pink backpack for at least 2 more weeks.
(and they might be all he does the next 2 weeks)
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 22, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they=that...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 22, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 22, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, proper conjugation is so important in Starfleet.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39
by znohitter on May 22, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jason Marquis available?
Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...
by slocs55 on May 22, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure trade Patton for him.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on May 22, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this pace we will be off for six months come november
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by DC Cubbie on May 22, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow I highly doubt the Cubs will be playing in October
by bluekoolaide on May 22, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's wait a little while
before we say that, eh? What would you have said in mid-June 2007?
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's too early to write the Cubs off
But the injuries make a surge like the one we saw after mid-June 2007 less likely.
by elgato on May 22, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
It’s late May. Still got almost a month.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez won't be back until July, though
And the team has generally been more banged up.
I think we’re all agreed that this is when the team needs to show what it’s made of.
by elgato on May 22, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the injuries in April and May....
make the surge in June and July more likely. I rather be healthy before August than break down when it matters most. If everyone thinks that Suppan, Looper, Parra, Bush are gonna take the BrewCrew to the promise land for the whole 162 stretch, you are kidding yourself. Now, they might go out and buy a stud to partner up with Gallardo, but even he looked pretty human the other night in Houston.
The Cubs had injuries when injuries are supposed to happen. This team will look a lot different in a month or two. With Rami back, and I am guessing a few added parts here and there, the Cubs will be fine.
We lost our #1 starter and our best run producer and we have the 4th or 5th best record in the NL. I will take that.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you really get injuries "out of the way"?
I don’t know if it works like that. Isn’t it just as likely that guys will have nagging injuries that don’t completely heal until the offseason?
by elgato on May 22, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Lou handles it correctly
We have some pretty soft players. Lee, who never seemed to be, is very achey lately. Bradley and Soriano or an accident waiting to happen. For the most part, our pitching has held up health wise. That is more important than anything. Harden’s injury is BS. They are resting him, now that we have Wells in the wings and Zambrano back.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
This is better than losing a starting pitcher and having only Les Walrond to replace him./
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 22, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot about him
Haha. Could they be looking for an opportunity to showcase Wells? I am of the opinion that we don’t really need much, other than infield help. But from everyone I listen to, Levine, Kurkjian, Gammons, Stark, the Cubs have $0.00 to spend. Nothing. So showcasing Wells might not be even close to right.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we such a bunch of quitters this year? Dang. It's not even June yet.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 22, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hard not to be pessimistic
After last year’s playoff collapse. But, yes, it is too early to write the season off.
by elgato on May 22, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
bring on the June Swoon
SARCASM!!!
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You keep thinking
like that. I’m not a negative thinker so I’m looking for a turn around.
by sue369 on May 22, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh
so you are a butt lover
:-)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno man…. Lets change the Subject
by Galvan316 on May 22, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wel,l she did say
I’m looking for a turn around
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gah,
didn’t mean it the way you took it. :P
by sue369 on May 22, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
was being a smart a$$
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF? Where did this come from?
Ugh… when it rains, it pours.
by kanderber on May 22, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And in other news
water is wet.
by jerry morales rules on May 22, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if he misses the minimum
It may not be that bad. It gives him a week and a half to rest his arm so he can hopefully pitch for a while without being gassed.
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on May 22, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, they said they'd give him plenty of rest
And he really hadn’t had that opportunity this year. So now he’ll have it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 22, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus he timed it perfectly w/ Z coming off the DL!
(yeah, I’m reaching….)
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 22, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He must have strained it trying to CARRY this floundering offense.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 22, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he didnt even bunt to get on the DL
slacker
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think this is a big deal
Wells, who has been pretty good gets to stay this way, and Harden will get to skip a start or two. His arm slot has been off, so says Harden, and perhaps his back is the reason. Wells gets to pitch tomorrow I am guessing, and a guy who hasnt given up a run in 12 innings isnt a bad fill in.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on May 22, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I sometimes think they make up these injuries
They said they would give Harden some rest and since Wells has been pitching well they figure this way they can keep him pitching, otherwise he would have to be sent down.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on May 22, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Certainly looks that way...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 22, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
while reading this post. We have to keep Harden fresh for October. And YES, we WILL be playing in OCTOBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're born again, there's new grass on the field. -John Fogerty
by muehlman on May 22, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I'm not talking about the 4 regular season games
We're born again, there's new grass on the field. -John Fogerty
by muehlman on May 22, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not if they don't starting winning
more consistantly.
We can’t take the division for granted this year, everyone is much improved so far.
I’m not giving up. I know there is a lot of ball left to be played. But these games lately are the ones we’ve looked back on in late Sept with “if only”thoughts before. And I don’t wanna do it again. So I hope Lou is giving out kicks in the ass.
by Allie on May 22, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will. Please believe. They will
We're born again, there's new grass on the field. -John Fogerty
by muehlman on May 22, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this take care of the
“Can we Woody Harden” idea?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
I’m guessing this is just a way to rest harden and not have to dump a player. Still at some point the cubs need to stop counting on injury prone pitchers. After hardens contract ends I hope we send him away.
Oh Mark DeRosa how we need you at third base.
by nji232 on May 22, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
I think it’s simply that Wells has been very good since called up and they don’t want to send down him or Scales/Freel so put Harden on the DL with a somewhat phantom injury and let him get some extra time between starts. Wells gets an extra start or two before moving to the pen.
Another thought is it possible that this is just to get an extended look at Wells to evaluate our future rotation/pen options or to audition him?
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on May 22, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regular season baseball shouldn't be audition time with the cubs
That being said, I think we are seeing a bit of that.
Oh Mark DeRosa how we need you at third base.
by nji232 on May 22, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must be dense or something because I see this as terrible news
How can you be “happy” about losing a pitcher and trusting a kid who’s thrown only 18+ innings? There must be a language barrier here because I’m at a loss.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on May 22, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because it's 15 days, retroactive last Monday, and his arm was going to need...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 22, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some rest at some point anyway....
Plus, Wells has been good, lack of experience or not.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 22, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only "happy"
because when I saw “breaking news” i assumed it would be even worse.
This is bearable and not even a surprise.
by Allie on May 22, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking News
Today, scientists visited BCB and discovered a substance harder than any previously known to man, a Cubs fan’s optimism. While theoretically intangible, scientists hope to one day harness the optimism into a viable, tangible material.
Poor jokes aside, pitching hasn’t been the problem, it’s been the inconsistent, feast or famine offense that has hurt this team, so this really isn’t a huge deal, IMO.
by CubsFan87 on May 22, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In fact harden has been very inconsistant recently
So his pitching hasn’t helped as much.
Oh Mark DeRosa how we need you at third base.
by nji232 on May 22, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
by DTJchris on May 22, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i made a thread
but no one is talking there
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 22, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame Judd.
Also, mlb.com article here.
Judd Sirott is responsible for EVERYONE'S injury. And all the current slumps.
Bradley watch -- out 10 games of 39
by znohitter on May 22, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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