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How To Break An Eight-Game Losing Streak: Cubs vs. Pirates, Tuesday 5/26, 7:05 CT

Well, if I knew the answer to that question, I'd be in the dugout, not writing this blog. Yahoo's Jeff Passan trots out the tired old saw -- Lou needs to blow up:

Little irks Piniella more than prolonged misery, his last epic explosion coming June 2, 2007, during a six-game losing streak. He kicked dirt, then kicked his hat and, for good measure, kicked an umpire. Then he watched the Cubs boot their losing attitude and finish on a 63-46 binge. This much can be said of Piniella: He does nothing halfway.

That "epic explosion" came fairly early in Lou's first year as manager, before he knew the team well, and one day after a blowup in the Cubs dugout between teammates Carlos Zambrano and Michael Barrett. It was calculated. Doing the same thing right now would be... pointless. This team doesn't need a blowup, it just needs more timely hitting, better bullpen work, and recovery from all the injuries. And, as Passan writes later in his article:

The Cubs don’t know who or what they are. Playing for Piniella puts a certain fear into players – "You know what Lou expects," [Mark] DeRosa said – and motivates them accordingly. And yet that self-assuredness that no manager alone can imbue in a group, the swagger that the Cubs embodied last regular season, is missing.

"I’m not sure what the identity of this team is," [Ted] Lilly said. "I think we’re still trying to find it. It takes some time. It’s not June yet."

It's hard to find a team identity when players are on a revolving door through the DL. But Lilly is right in implying that it's still very early and there's time to find that identity, and win with it. However, losing 8 in a row puts the Cubs on a very short list if they intend to repeat a postseason appearance. Very few teams have managed that many losses in a row and still made the postseason. Last year's Dodgers are one of them; they lost 8 in a row even after they got Manny Ramirez and at the end of that streak were five games under .500 at 65-70, 4.5 games out of first place -- just half a game better off than the Cubs are now, except there were 27 games left for them, not 119. The Dodgers suddenly turned it on, went 19-8 the rest of the year (best in baseball over that span) and won the NL West.

The 2006 Cardinals had two eight-game losing streaks and another of seven -- and that last streak came late in September and they almost blew a seven-game lead with 12 to play -- but they squeaked into the postseason and went 11-5 when it counted and won it all.

Then there's my favorite example, the 2000 Yankees, who had a nine-game lead in the AL East with 19 to go and proceeded to lose 15 of their final 18 (one game was cancelled) and the last seven regular season games in a row, and not in close games, either; among the 15 losses were scores of 11-1 (twice), 15-4 (twice), 16-3, 11-3 and 13-2. But they squeaked out a division title because the Red Sox couldn't win when it counted, and won the World Series.

There are also plenty of examples of recent teams that have struggled in May, only to turn it on and make postseasons. But the Cubs had better start tonight.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Sean Marshall
Sean Marshall
Cubs
vs. Ian Snell
Ian Snell
Pirates
2-3 W-L 1-5
3.96 ERA 4.88
23 SO 36
11 BB 26
6 HR 6
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Sean Marshall 2-3 9 6 0 0 0 0 36.1 36 17 16 6 11 23 3.96 1.29


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Ian Snell 1-5 9 9 0 0 0 0 48.0 46 28 26 6 26 36 4.88 1.50

Ian Snell has made 11 appearances (9 starts) lifetime vs. the Cubs and is 1-5 with a 5.93 ERA, similar to his numbers this season. He's walked a lot of people this year and Alfonso Soriano usually pounds him -- 9-for-18 with three homers. I liked Sori's leadoff AB yesterday where he took a 12-pitch walk, but I'd settle for a first-pitch leadoff HR today.

Even though the Pirates are a divisional rival, Sean Marshall has not faced them since 2006 (probably because of his shuttling back and forth to Iowa and the bizarre scheduling of 2008 when the Cubs played the Pirates 12 times by the end of May and hardly at all after), when he made three starts against them, getting a win and a no-decision. Only two current Pirates -- Nate McLouth (2-for-8, a HR) and Jack Wilson (3-for-9) have more than three AB vs. Sean.

The Cubs are on cable only today (CSN in Chicago and FSN in Pittsburgh). Perhaps you are happy about that if you live outside these areas. For today's other games see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

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Overflow comment threads will post today at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Eventually you flip a coin, and

It comes up heads… Here’s hoping for hitting AND pitching tonight, for a change.

by DisCUBbobulated on May 26, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know.

I can see the Cubs making an appearance in an updated Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 26, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

In which Miles and Freel

Are in a never ending loop of hitting into ground outs.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 26, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch

They’ll get one to come up heads.
Eventually.

by chitownhawkeye on May 26, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if they are in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.

Stoppard ROCKS

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 26, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

They got one.

(or one tail, I don’t remember) after the player steps on it.

by chitownhawkeye on May 26, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Waiting for GO4dot?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 26, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

How to break a losing streak

Have Marshall pitch like he has been, only give him as many runs as we scored last night.

by chitownhawkeye on May 26, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Greetings from Shanghai

Here on vacation. The streak isn’t my fault; I left for Asia on Thursday, after the Cubs had already lost 3…

The 1989 Cubs also lost about 7 or 8 in a row early on. If they can stop the bleeding, there is still time, but it does need to start soon. And the Cardinals need to start helping instead of laying down for Milwaukee.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on May 26, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

is it raining

at Wrigley?

"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley

by drewishdrewid on May 26, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Light drizzle

Sky looks dark to west, but they are going to play tonight.

by gocubsgo22 on May 26, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please win tonight

I have a feeling the NBA playoffs are going to let me down tonight so I could use a Cubs win.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

No half-measures from this quarter

This losing streak ends tonight. Ursus Collosi, The Mighty Cubs, will smite these young Pirates tonight, and in so doing, will deliver unto our generation the most thrilling tale of dominance ever told!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 26, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Rain is coming

Game won’t happen. Look at the radar.

Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...

by BLou on May 26, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

and if it does happen?

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on May 26, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like scattered precip to me

A day off might not be bad, but it won’t be Tuesday

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on May 26, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

sadly I trust you in China about as I do Blou in Chicago making that

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on May 26, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if it rains, they won't lose.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on May 26, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Attention BLou:

They played the game.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 27, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are...are you saying...that BLou was wrong?

That can’t be! That’s impossible!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 27, 2009 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any more

predictions Nostradamus?

by sue369 on May 27, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I really hope the game doesn’t get rained out. I wanna get this streak over with, not have to sit with it for another day (I am sure the players are more anxious to get it over with than us)!

When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch. -Ty Cobb

by SotoRiot on May 26, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about

the players. This has to be driving them crazy.

by sue369 on May 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll rec that.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 26, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will not watch tonight's game.

I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 26, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you going to watch tonight's game?

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on May 26, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will not watch tonight's game.

I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.
I will not watch tonight’s game.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 26, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

But you'll still be in the Game Threads, right?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 26, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dan, we don't "watch" the games...

we experience them.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 26, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont watch the games

I feel the games

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 26, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are they sort of squishy?

Warm? Fuzzy?

You have to give us more information!

by chitownhawkeye on May 26, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda like a 93MPH fastball to the ribs

At least lately…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 26, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

and before the pitch

you have bruised ribs

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 26, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feel the game, Danny. BE the game.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on May 26, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

705?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 26, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You win the prize.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 26, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

souldn't that be a B instead of a D?

I mean for the penis?

flagged him and myself for saying penis.

by xene on May 26, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I flagged all three of his baby talking....

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 26, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

email Al too.

He doesn’t see the flags unless you notify him.

by sue369 on May 26, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

did both

flag and email

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 26, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

well aren't you sweet

get lost, prick

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on May 26, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back to baseball

Lineup
Soriano
Theriot
Dome
Milton
Hoffpauir
Fontenot
Hill
Freel 3B
Marshall

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Soto hit the ball hard last night

Wonder why he isnt in there tonight?

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Lee has the flu.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wonder if it is of the swine variety?

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 26, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 26, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

No offense

but can you plz put a title with all your pics that way we can close them after viewing them?

Thx!

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on May 26, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't make sense to me

But Lou isn’t making much sense lately.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is only one person in the world can figure out how to cure this team's woes.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT reply actions  

The second edition is better.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 26, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Joe Morgan obviously has learned a lot since the first edition came out.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 26, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait...

Is that a real book? (I have a feeling I’m opening myself to get laughed at by asking…but I cannot fathom that anyone would actually have printed that…)

by CubsWin!Oregon on May 26, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first one is so very real.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 26, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I know what I’m buying all my friends for their birthdays. That’s outstanding.

by CubsWin!Oregon on May 26, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey if we get rained out tonight....

Then at least we didnt lose!

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on May 26, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Scattered showers

I think we will be fine. Looks clear in patches up north

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 26, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont get me wrong

id MUUUUUUUUUUch rather get the win

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on May 26, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone see the NL All Star voting so far?

Brewers have 1st or 2nd at almost every position. Not surprising, JJ Hardy 1st in NL SS????

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 26, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers fans popping up everywhere!!

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on May 26, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

But JJ Hardy?

Hanley Ramirez is a name that comes to mind that could be a little more deserving and a lot more popular. Or at least I thought.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 26, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

But...

Hanley Ramirez plays for a team that has about 74 or so fans.

by kanderber on May 26, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

They obviously are organizing

Good for them, if we have to I would say vote for a Brewer over a Cardinal.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

I like the idea of not giving their best players any rest. As far as I’m concerned I’d rather not have any Cubs make it to the ASG, and then be fresher come the second half.

by CubsWin!Oregon on May 26, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just another example of how terribly put together...

everything surrounding the All Star game is.

You know, it’s really pretty pathetic of how bad a job MLB does at this. The MLB All Star Game is a collection of the world’s best baseball players. And most fans think it’s a joke, from the voting, to the “this time it counts” thing, etc.

by kanderber on May 26, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's because it is a joke

Exhibit A, voting with less than a third of the season.
Exhibit B, having it at the halfway point.
Exhibit C, letting the fans vote so it’s a popularity contest.

I just don’t have any respect for it.

by chitownhawkeye on May 26, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou had his chance to blow up twice

Once with Ted Lilly and second with the Freel play at 3rd.

I think Lou is a little more concerned that if they lose again tonight people are going to start talking about letting him go. All speculative of course but let’s face it, that type of discussion goes on if you hit a losing streak like this….unfortunately.

by ak123 on May 26, 2009 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Promise we win today.

I was 11-2 when I assumed victory last year .. Let’s make it undefeated this year.

Tamia Lynn Davis:
Born: August 18, 2008

by Unique on May 26, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

1-0!

Tamia Lynn Davis:
Born: August 18, 2008

by Unique on May 27, 2009 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

come on, its Snell....I mean its Snell!!

GO CUBS!

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on May 26, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou talking to Ron about clutch hitting

“You know… last night we had the winning run at the plate in the 9th and didn’t get it done”. Seems like even the 8 runs scored last night were not nearly as important as timely hitting in close games and clutch situations. However, how do you get people to be more clutch – seems like they either have it or they don’t, but it’s not something you can just force people to do…

by DisCUBbobulated on May 26, 2009 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Did Ron ask Lou why he didn't PH for Aaron Miles instead of complaining now?

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 26, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is the question

nobody has the balls to ask Lou.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't get

Lou’s attitude over this losing streak. I don’t want to see him go crazy but at least act concerned.

by sue369 on May 26, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 26, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

erm...erm...

well, interesting..

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on May 26, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every time I see a quote from him

I become more convinced that he just doesn’t care. He saw he was given crap and once Aramis went down he just didn’t care anymore.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

I don’t know what he’s doing anymore, its just obvious to me that this isn’t the same Lou from the past two seasons.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 26, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think that last night was a statement made by Lou

No. Not that senility is creeping, but to Hendry. He used the team he has been given. Cotts, Patton, Ascanio, like it or not are major league pitchers that Hendry felt were the best we could find. Miles is a Hendry pick. Lou is showing the boss who has it and who doesnt. We have too much talent and too many games left in Lou’s eyes, so I think he dumped the game into the players laps last night. “Here, win it if you can.” sort of thing. They couldnt and he is going to keep putting people out there until 9 guys perform each night, and then those 9 will play the rest of the way. I personally think 1 or 2 of them arent on this roster yet.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on May 26, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If that's the case

and I’m not completely disagreeing, then it’s not the first game he’s done that way.

by chitownhawkeye on May 26, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I recced this comment..

I think you’re sniffing around the right tree here. I look at the team and sense unsettled chemistry. I am sensing that he wants a team that can win close games in October, and this ain’t it. No one in Chicago will be pleased with another first round playoff exit, despite how many games we win before that. Rightly so, Lou’s focus should be winning October games.

by DisCUBbobulated on May 26, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

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