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Just Win, Baby: Cubs Break Losing Streak In Rain-Shortened Game, 6-1 Over Pirates

Looking at weather radars late yesterday afternoon, I wouldn't have given real good odds that the game would have been played at all -- the Chicago area seemed surrounded by thunderstorms and more were heading north from downstate.

But the area got just enough of a break from the weather -- it was mostly dry from about 5:00 until a downpour hit just before 9:00 -- for the Cubs and Pirates to get an official five innings in before the umpires finally called everyone off the field with a 1-2 count on ex-Cub Craig Monroe in the top of the sixth. Result: a 6-1 rain-shortened Cubs win over the Pirates, the second game of the year that went into the books with fewer than nine innings played, and the eight-game losing streak is history. The Cubs returned to the .500 mark and with the Cardinals' 8-1 win over the Brewers, crept back to four games out of first place (three in the loss column).

With only five innings played, both Sean Marshall and Ian Snell, the game's starting pitchers, get credit for complete games; Marshall threw perhaps his best game of the year, allowing only four hits (all singles), striking out six, and making two slick defensive plays -- catching a line drive and also snagging a sharply hit grounder up the middle for an easy 1-3 putout.

Meanwhile, the Cubs offense continued its awakening from the dismal road trip; Kosuke Fukudome hit his first home run in a month. Micah Hoffpauir drove in a pair of runs with a double, and Marshall, who has turned himself into a pretty good hitter (3-for-12 this year with two RBI), singled in a run. The club also resumed its patient ways, walking four times in only five innings of batting.

How baseball has changed: I remember a game day around this time of year in 1978, when a game was called at 10 am because of the mere threat of rain. Of course, that was in the days where the average attendance was about 18,000 and the average ticket price was about $5 (yes, seriously, $5 -- even box seats weren't that pricey), so the team's financial exposure wasn't that high for a postponement. Today, with the price of an average ticket approaching $50 and virtually every game a sellout, a rainout could cost the Cubs somewhere in the range of $1.5 million to $1.8 million -- or, to put it in another way, about the cost of Aaron Heilman's salary for 2009. In addition, there are other pressures, such as tight schedules with no scheduled doubleheaders (and no, I'm not arguing in favor of that -- there's no way the owners are giving up the revenue to give two games for the price of one, not to mention the fact that you can't get a regular DH finished in less than seven hours these days) and the rule requiring a day off at least every 20 days.

That's why we see games like last night's, played in part in very difficult conditions -- the last inning was played in a pretty hard downpour and you could just imagine fielders saying to themselves, "Please don't hit me a popup!" -- pushed to at least be official games. A little more than half of the listed paid crowd, 38,303, actually showed up to brave the rain and almost all of us, myself included, ducked out when the delay was called just before 9:00. After an hour and six minutes, the result was made official at 10:05. Strangely enough, at the 7:05 scheduled game time, it was not raining -- though it had much of the time when batting practice normally would have been held -- the field was uncovered, and pitchers had warmed up, but no one, not even the umpires, had appeared. Finally, about 7:10 the umpires came out of the dugout -- one of the few times you'll ever see umpires applauded -- and the first pitch was thrown at 7:12.

The Cubs will take them, these days, any way they can. The offense seems to have awakened and if the pitching can settle back into the groove it had even during the road trip portion of the losing streak, things can turn around quickly. The two teams will try again this afternoon, weather permitting:

Today: Today: Showers likely, with thunderstorms also possible after 1pm. Patchy fog before 1pm. Otherwise, cloudy, with a high near 69. North northwest wind between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Notes: sources tell me, despite me and some others wanting the Cubs to go after Mark DeRosa, the Cubs will not seek his return, nor are they at this time looking for help outside the organization; and, further, there are no immediate plans to call up Jake Fox. If the team keeps hitting the way they have the last two games, a turnaround could come as quickly as the losing streak did.

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Thinking of building............

……….an ark. When will the rain subside?

This is crazy, but we can’t claim to have had “no spring” in 2009.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra

by tville on May 27, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

conditions last night

When I saw Theriot slip on home plate while running to first, that gets me thinking about another injury. This one, weather-related.

by thermal54 on May 27, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sean Marshall

Kudos to Sean – good pitching, good defense, and good hitting; he has turned himself into an all-around good player. He got a hit, but his other AB impressed me, too – the 10 or 11 pitch AB where he fouled out several pitches to go from 0-2 to 3-2. Whatever the Cubs do in the short-term, Sean has proven that he deserves to be in the Cubs’ rotation long-term. It would be a waste of a complete player to stuff him in the ’pen.

Short-term the Cubs may need to do that, to limit his innings and to carry the team through to when a LH reliever can be acquired. But I can’t see how anyone could still make the case that Marshall belongs in the bullpen.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I watched Marshall's

ten pitch at-bat on Gameday and was very impressed, especially when the two batters before him had one pitch at bats (I think).

I also agree that it would be a waste to put Marshall in the bullpen. He has proven, to me, this season that he belongs but then against I suppose it is a good problem to have when you can’t decide where to put all the starting pitching that is major league ready.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on May 27, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Marshall deserves to stay in the rotation, and why weaken your starting pitching just to strengthen the pen? The Cub’s should focus on getting a lefty elsewhere, if that is possible.

Side note, I love watching Hoffpauir hit, seems like he always hits the ball hard somewhere.

Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...

by slocs55 on May 27, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

it may not be possible to get a lefty elsewhere. It’s not as if they are all that common and teams tend to hold onto the good ones. IF the White Sox ever did get out of it, Thornton would be great on the North Side.

by jerry morales rules on May 27, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are tough to come by,

but eventually teams will fade, they will want to dump salaries and someone will become available.

Or a team will stupidly let go of a Scott Eyre type.

Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...

by slocs55 on May 27, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, they will. Along with the same crowd that is making the case that DLee can't hit.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 27, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not for nothing

But I can’t imagine it’s the easiest thing to do — bullpen to rotation to bullpen to rotation.

He’d be better served planting him somewhere. I vote the rotation.

Zambrano, Lilly, Dempster, Harden/Wells and Marshall is just fine.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Wells needs to be our sixth starter. He should go back to AAA to remain stretched out if another starter gets injured.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on May 27, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tell you what

How bout we consider moving Marshall to the pen when your beloved Harden pitches say THREE EFFECTIVE games in a row. Right now he is both injured and has stats no better than Dempster .

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 27, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops

wrong thread. That was meant as a response to Blou’s obsession with sticking Marshall in the pen while believing Harden is God’s gift to baseball.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on May 27, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice to get a win!

GO CUBS!

Wait a minute... who am I here?

by malicedoom on May 27, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I have this odd feeling this morning

I forgot how it felt after a Cubs win. That was how the Cubs should play the Pirates and Ian Snell. walks, timely hitting, Sean Marshall doing his Big Z impersenation, and of course winning.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Big Z impersonation?

The at-bat lasted 11 pitches. Z can go three at-bats without seeing 11 pitches

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Big Z is probably the fifth best hitter we have right now

Soriano, Dome, Theriot, Lee, Big Z- If I needed a pinch hit right now, that is the order I pick em.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was joking

Just matching the Z hate with some Z love.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

i had a feeling :-p

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is too easy. I can’t even muster much enthusiasm.

He has the talent to be a very good hitter.

He has the brains of a Little Leaguer.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Be careful when making comments about brains.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 27, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeez, you hand to get him started on Big Z. Why don't you give it a rest?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great day! Food taste better. The air is sweeter and my disposition is much better. My dog

has returned from her hiding place as the fear of being kicked into the next county has gone away.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 27, 2009 8:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope, pray even...

… that we’ve seen the worst. We hit bottom last weekend, and its all uphill from here on out.

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

by AndrewJStone on May 27, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope this very same thing

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeRo

Still thinking his aquisition (barring there aren’t better cost/talent options available and there’s already a bullpen move being made) would be a great lift for the team if mgmt is considering a move at the end of next month.

I know its been noted on ad nauseam, but we would be adding a great clubhouse guy, versatile fielder, solid bench man and I think would be just a feel good PR opportunity that would generate an emotional lift for the club and fans as they move into the second half of the season

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on May 27, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

DeRo would up the play at 3B, but would he be a psychological lift?

I’m not sure about that. Wouldn’t you basically be putting Fontenot and Miles on notice until Rami got back? Would management be sending a signal that said, “We have no confidence in how we designed this team?”

Anyway, Al’s source repeats what we heard elsewhere – that the Cubs aren’t considering this. I think it’s time to put this trade idea to bed – at least for a while.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

While I'd still like to see DeRo in a Cubs uniform again...

… all it really will take to improve things is for players like Bradley, Soto, Fontenot and Lee to hit the way they are capable of hitting.

Incidentally, and I have no source on this, just speculating, it would not surprise me to see Tampa Bay inquire about DeRosa, given that they have lost their regular 2B (Iwamura) for the season.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can we all chip in a $1 to have them

take Freel?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amen brother

Ryan Freel is horrendous. I don’t think it will be very long before Lou Piniella walks up to Hendry and tells him to get rid of this clown.

Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...

by BLou on May 27, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 trillion

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I must admit that his contributions to the cause have been few and far between.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 27, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

You get the feeling

They’re trying to pull an Edmonds and give him a chance to get his bearings. Wish it would work, but I’m not holding my breath.

by NWIowaCubFan on May 27, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

We have an abundance of 2B

Can’t we offer one to the Rays? Can’t imagine Hendry would ask for much. Maybe a bucket of baseballs for Miles?

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on May 27, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Ramirez out, it pains me to type this,

but the team may need Miles. Assuming Fontenot is the starting 2B and fill in at 3B, my confidence on the remainder in order is Miles, Scales then Freel.

I would like to see Scales get two or three starts in a row to see if he’s still an option. If the magic has worn off and he’s played out, 2nd is now a thin position with Miles and Freel as the alternatives.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now obviously I have a potentially irrational hatred of Miles

but I would rather watch Bobby Scales play every day.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

If no moves are made

Then Fontenot should remain as primary 3B and Scales/Miles handle 2B.

That’s unless we get all wacky and move Soriano to 2B in order to make room for Fox in LF. In which case Scales goes to the bench and Miles just… goes.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just guessing if the world turns over

and Soriano is butchering second, Hoffpauir would be in LF.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I'd read that Fox has played some LF

And Hoff/Bradley would remain at RF in my world.

Six of one; half-dozen of the other, I guess.

I’ll tell you this, though. A defense of Fox and Hoff in the outfield and Sori and Fontenot in the infield would get a lot of people on here rethinking the DH.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I for one won't contemplate the DH, but will

continue to mumble about the team Hendry/Lou have put together.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

A defense of Fox and Hoff in the outfield and Sori and Fontenot in the infield would get a lot of people on here rethinking the DH.

Not at all. Rather, it gets me thinking that we need to trade some of these DH players for people who play REAL baseball.

"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley

by drewishdrewid on May 27, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

hopefully that is why Fox is getting the call up. If we can get him enough at-bats, and he tears it up like he was in AAA, an AL team (or the Mets) will have to come calling.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on May 27, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am hearing a lot of chatter

in STL about Dero….that would be interesting to say the least. Sounds like there is a 50% chance that Glaus is not going to be available the whole year.

"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb

by TheRiot Police on May 27, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard the same rumor.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, that bothers me a lot

It’s just the type of thing the Cards would do on their way to the playoffs in years past.

Hold me. I’m scared.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would hate to see that.

Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...

by slocs55 on May 27, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

All true.

Futher, this team was built to allow for an offensive vacuum in center field with a Dome/Johnson tandem. If they can continue to produce and the other players with “established bat” contracts produce, any stopgap player should be survivable regardless of offense.

From the looks of things, bats are coming around with Bradley, Lee, Hoffpauir, & Soto all have their averages and OBP rising over the last 10-15 games. Time to shuffle the deck and solidify the pen, end the Freel experiment (2 hits over 16 AB, with 1 bat flipping walk?) and move forward.

Nice to see the W, was forgetting what it looked like.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been leaning against bringing DeRosa back

because of the cost.

But today’s S-T says Ramirez isn’t even close. And I don’t think he’ll be at full strength until NEXT year.

I think whoever we get at 3B, if it’s not in-house, could be there for the duration.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on May 27, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aramis is a huge question mark

I wouldn’t be shocked if we dont see him until mid-August

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really surprised that Al's source says the club isn't even looking for outside help.

Maybe they looked and saw no good prices; that would be one interpretation.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's a correct interpretation...

at this time. That could change, of course, depending on how A-Ram progresses. Kouzmanoff might be a reasonable (and fairly inexpensive in dollars and players) option.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't think Kouz Kouz would be much of an upgrade?

Or is this a guy who might benefit from a change of scenery?

I know his numbers away from PETCO are much better, but do we think this guy will be of benefit?

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Check Kouz' splits

He’s both better away than at home and better in the second half than the first. If he was cheap, I’d be glad to have him.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think I would, too.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

thanks for the link

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

I can understand if the current prices are too high right now, but there is no way they can plug the hole at 3B with Ryan Freel.

I get the impression that thinking Ramirez will both be back AND good by the break is nothing more than wish casting on the parts of Cubs fans. I have had serious doubts that he will be the same player when he returns, at least not until August, if not longer.

If they are serious about contending this season, they absolutely have to plug the hole at 3B, and there aren’t any options in house unless they plan on living with Jake Fox carrying a frying pan at the corner.

I think DeRosa would be a help, but he’s not the only option out there.

I am in huge favor of DGU’s Huff idea. Throw four or five guys at them and try to get Huff and Sherill, and call that the big purchase of the season. Sherill bumps Cotts out of the pen, and makes the back end a lot stronger. And Huff mans 3B, and when Ramirez gets back to form, Huff can spell/backup all four corners, which are spots that are currently manned by guys whom we can expect to miss some time.

by WittyUserName on May 27, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Huff can be had, it better be cheap.

Last 10 games average is .210 with a .660 ops. Not sure that’s any better than Fontenot or Freel.

Sherill would make that a worthwhile deal though.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fontenot, sure - and it could help. Miles, who cares?

It’s pretty clear that Aaron Miles’ “future” with the Cubs ends, at the latest, with the final pitch of the 2010 season.

As for Fontenot, sure, I think that it could send a message, and it’s one that may need sending. Obviously I agree that it’s not going to happen – I think that most of us have known that was the case all along. Management is not going to admit a mistake like that.

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by D98 on May 27, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whether it's true or not is not at issue right now.

One way or another Fontenot will be getting a lot of playing time. It’s better to show confidence in him in the time being.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Relieved......

to say the least.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on May 27, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

My bet that Bobby Scales will not get 5 more hits is looking good

That said, I endorse the following move to the pitching staff.

1. Whack Cotts
2. Dump Patton
3. Move Marshall to the pen
4. Call up Stevens

Marshall has been solid in the rotation, but the rotation is where we are deep and the bullpen has been a trainwreck. Marshall can prove hugely valuable in that pen and we should remain just fine in the rotation, notwithstanding my increasing angst over Dumpster (might go down as one of the worst contracts in baseball when all is said and done).

Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...

by BLou on May 27, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Marshall's innings will have to be monitored this season

so a short-term move to the ’pen may make sense, but I wonder if long-term having Wells in the ’pen and Guzman becoming the primary arm v. LHP might make more sense.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Guzman as the LOOGY idea

is a good one.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guzman as LOOGY

this year he equally as effective vs. lefties (small sample size though)

vs. RHB – .171/.239/.341/.581 (47 PAs)
vs LHB – .172/.226/.276/.502 (31 PAs)

For comparison, Cotts vs. LHB

.318/.483/.773/1.255 (29 PAs) (that’s pretty atrocious)

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on May 27, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you made the Scales statement

on Friday. Since then he has 1 hit, 3 BB, only 3 SO and 1 Run over 8 at bats.

5 games over which the entire team had one offensively decent showing.

His performance doesn’t trend to you looking wrong, but nowhere near right either.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus

Scales has been sick. It seems that Piniella is giving him a chance to get better as he was penciled in as the starter yesterday (or maybe it was the day before). I think Blou’s predicition will be way off and Scales is going to get more time, more at-bats, and some success in the next few days.

by jerry morales rules on May 27, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he's been sent down for now.

His illness and Freel’s existance hindered his staying, but I believe this is illness related and expect he’ll be back before too long.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harden cannot be counted on for a while

The crap is already starting. He needs a throwing program, then they find a tear, then he will miss 2 months, then the season.

Sean Marshall is an option, but not until Rich Harden returns from the DL. He hasn’t thrown for a week and is likely to miss at least three starts. Originally he was supposed to miss two starts. “Until we get a throwing program for him, we won’t know,” Piniella said.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is from the tribune today

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right, so...

… Marshall stays in the rotation for now, as does Wells. If the Cubs want another LH reliever, they have to either find one in the system or trade for one.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't want to see any towels.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 27, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mean to start a panic or be Mr. Negative

but I read that paragraph and I have flashbacks.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Demp

I’d say lay off of Demp. He’s given us the innings we need this year with a poo-poo pen so far, has not returned to the full-on Dumpster days of old, and I personally don’t think he will.

Whil he’s struggled with command, he has given us what we need from him for the most part.

But if you want to discuss the contract, that indeed was definitely way more than he should have been given. Such is life with Cubs/Yanks size payrolls…

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on May 27, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

the rotation is where we are deep?

really? Where? Z was on the DL. now Harden is on the DL. If you move Marshall back to the pen, you still only have four starters. You gonna call Jeff Spellcheck, with his wonder-fast ball and nothing else up to start? Really?

"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley

by drewishdrewid on May 27, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fontenot is turning things around.

It’s only three games, but he’s got a hitting streak going, including two two-hit games, and it looks like the move back to 2B has helped fix his hitting.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on May 27, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

SO nice to finally get a win!

Sean Marshall is the real deal. Such a great asset to this team.

by kanderber on May 27, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

De Roe

I’d love to see him in a Cub uni but the guys in the Card Spring training office say he is going to be a Red Bird soon. Maybe but now he is hitting 270 the price has got to be high

by nimblenikelfoos on May 27, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

So what will they give up?

I have a feeling it will be a steaming pile of crap.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they aren't going to call up Fox now`

when he is absolutely destroying the ball, and we need help at just about every position on the diamond, then why not trade him? If they won’t call him up now, they never will. His value will never be higher if they won’t call him up, when not get something for him? Whatever they can get for him now is more than they’ll get when his hitting returns to Earth.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on May 27, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

he's on his way up

SEE the new FanPost!!

Gotta love the Ragin' Cajun!

by TheRiot4Life on May 27, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

about damn time

Hopefully the other side of this transaction is either the DFA of Miles or Freel, or the end of Cotts. Sounds like a win, win, win to me.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe Patton no longer

sitting in the pen

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll keep Patton if it means one of those 3 are gone

Patton will be gone if Harden ever comes back.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how

the Cubs could get DeRo. One of the two GMs would end up looking bad in a deal like that.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on May 27, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, hopefully...

Jim Hendry would put his team ahead of his pride.

That said, I don’t think they’ll acquire him.

by kanderber on May 27, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here in St. Louis...

DeRosa has been dominating ESPN radio for the last few days. Not sure how interested in the Cards are, but he’s being talked about quite a bit here.

by kanderber on May 27, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

If the Cards or Brewers get DeRo....

Hendry needs to be canned.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on May 27, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

they’d love to get him after losing Miles. I don’t think anyone thinks that DeRosa isn’t an improvement over him.

by jerry morales rules on May 27, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Hendry look great in that circumstance.

It would be almost exactly like when Scott Tenorman was giving change to Eric Cartman for his $6.12, but he only had a ten, and so you give me the 5, and I’ll give you the ten. Now you give me the 12 cents, and I’ll give you back your five, and now you give me the ten, and I’ll take DeRosa, and here you can pay Aaron Miles double his 2008 salary for the next two years.

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by D98 on May 27, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it would just be dumb

to not go after DeRo…he’s a good player and can’t hurt the team, he’d only help us

by Cubs and Hawks fan on May 27, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

but then what will we talk about?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

his gorgeous greek body

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Jake Fox

I know this guy isn’t exactly stellar in the field, but has he been doing anything to better ready himself for a major league call up? I.E. learning a new position or improving on the one he already plays?

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I feel like he plays a different position every night

I could be 100% off on that, but I’ve heard him playing OF, catcher, 3B, and first. None of them well of course

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

How bad is he?

I keep hearing how he’s awful on D. What is it? Lack of range? Is he just a big doofus out there? Does he “Ronny Cedeno” his throws? Bad arm? What?

by kanderber on May 27, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea

Just that he is bad. I think I remember him playing rightfield in either 06 or 07 and he didn’t seem any worse than Hoffpauir is now. I kind of wonder if his defensive inability is reaching a bit of hyperbole.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it is - it seems reminiscent to the talk of Hoffpauir.

Last offseason, everyone seemed pretty certain that Hoffpauir was incapable of playing 1B even at a rudimentary level, and that if he ever played the OF people might literally die.

He’s been playing 1B with no incident, and his play in RF, with one memorable exception, has been unremarkable.

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by D98 on May 27, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

What???

Hoffpauir has always been considered a very solid defensive 1B. Nobody knowledgeable claimed that Hoff couldn’t handle first.

It’s his OF defense that has been consistently questioned. And rightfully so. Granted, he has far exceeded those expectations when filling in for Bradley so far this year.

by WittyUserName on May 27, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

In relation to D-Lee, anyway.

All offseason, the discussion meme was that if Hoffpauir saw serious time at 1B, Aramis and Theriot would post a bunch of 6 error games, because Lee made them appear more competent than they actually were.

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by D98 on May 27, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

if you don't think that Derrek Lee

doesn’t dig out some horrendously thrown balls, then, well. I don’t know what to say. But he’s a gold glover for a reason. And we call Riot “Double Clutch” for a reason too.

"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley

by drewishdrewid on May 27, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sean was so diappointed

when the game was called last night. He was terrific last night and the team was hitting, it’s what we all have been waiting for. Hope it carries over for today.

by sue369 on May 27, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

He shouldn't be THAT disappointed.

He pitched well, hit well, got a win and credit for a CG (since he pitched the entire game).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

The look on his

face when they called the game showed disappointment. That’s why I said that.

by sue369 on May 27, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

apologies if this has already been suggested

… but I think Marshall should get a look as a Marquis-style pinch-hitter, especially with the depth problems we’ve had recently.

Incidentally, it’s my birthday today, so I’m hoping the Cubs can stretch this winning streak to two and win the series. Keep it up, Cubbies.

by elgato on May 27, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

If Marshall had a perfect game or no-hitter after 5 yesterday

Would he have recieved credit for one in the record books?

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes and no.

There’s a separate category for perfect games and no-hitters of less than nine innings. They have quasi-official recognition from MLB.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on May 27, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Score reporting...

Miles to the 15-day DL, Andres Blanco called up, Fox up, Waddell up, and Cotts down to AAA. I like these moves, let’s see what the new guys can do.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on May 27, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Why send

Scales down? Is he that sick?

Otherwise I really like all of these moves.

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on May 27, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably to give Blanco a shot...

I don’t know, just speculating.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on May 27, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blanco plays SS, Scales does not.

And with Miles gone we would otherwise have no backup SS. Scales will be back, I’m sure.

by Inkin on May 27, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

2 weeks of no miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on May 27, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

alright, here we go

Rattling the cage.

Sad to see scales go though

I'm officially a fan of Bobby Scales

by heine41 on May 27, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a Chicago Tribune link.

Click here.

Hopefully, they call Scales back up soon.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

So if these sources were wrong about Fox being called up

what’s the certainty they’re accurate on the Cubs not trying to re-acquire DeRo?

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on May 27, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

In related Jake Fox news

Today is Jake Fox jersey shirt giveaway day in Des Moines.

by Josh Timmers on May 27, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

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