Z Ruling Expected today or tomorrow
by Worf on May 28, 2009 2:36 PM CDT
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According to Trib and S-T.
I'm tired of wading through 560 posts on one thread and 430 on the other, and we need a poll on this situation.
This is poll is what you think WILL happen, not what you think should happen.
So, drew if you don't post that the ump should be fired, I won't post that Z should be traded? Fair?
I say he will get 10 games and they will knock it down to 7 or 8, so he misses one start and a whole bunch of chances to strike out as a pinchhitter.
I say the ump gets a private rebuke.
The poll is structured as a zero-sum game. The worse it is for Z, the lighter it is for the ump and so on. There is an option at the end for equal punishments.
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Interesting.
They waited a month to decide on Bradley’s incident, and will decide on Z in one day?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 28, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't they issue Bradley's punishment pretty quickly?
It was the appeal that took so long. I’m sure Zambrano appeals (at least anything over 5 games) and that will take a bit.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
You’re confusing the sentence with the appeal. Bradley’s suspension came the next day. The appeal took forever to happen and then forever for a decision on the appeal to come down.
Of course Zambrano will appeal whatever comes down.
by Josh77 on May 28, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
I had it mixed up. Depending on the length of the suspension they could just let it ride, because of the off day next week. But there’s also the point to be made that the umpires need to NOT initiate contact.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 28, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bredleys initial was not a month out
it was the appeal that took a month
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Sullivan article...
… says there’s at least a chance Z could get off with just a fine:
Zambrano is being investigated for Wednesday’s incident in which he and Carlson made contact, leading to his ejection and subsequent histrionics. Carlson appears to have walked towards Zambrano, and the league is reviewing whether the umpire initiated contact before Zambrano pushed away.
If it’s decided that Carlson was the instigator, Zambrano could get off with just a fine. If Zambrano is ruled to have bumped Carlson without having been bumped first, he is likely to be suspended.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 28, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, then
if it’s THAT easy… it’s pretty obvious that Carlson bumped him first.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 28, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or even
a suspension of fewer than five days, which for a starting pitcher is just a fine—although Z does pinch-hit some.
by Josh77 on May 28, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To just fine someone who behaved that way on the field
Would be a MAJOR indictment of the umpire.
That would be a complete change from baseball’s usual practice and would essentially end that ump’s career because he’d command no respect at all.
I do not believe baseball is willing to do that. Nor do I believe the ump’s crime dictates it.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
it’s a much greater infraction when an ump bumps a player, as opposed to when a player bumps an ump.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
Several reasons:
1) Players are generally physically stronger, quicker and faster than umps (Fontenot would be the exception to the stronger bit).
Bumps are not punished for their own sake. They are seen, I believe, as precursors to possible violence. Umps have more to fear from player violence than the reverse. They are outnumbered on the field and FAR outnumbered in the stands if the call is against the home team.
2) The umps are the authority figure. It is a greater crime for you to hit a cop than for a cop to hit you. That’s because the authority must be protected and to do so risks undermining the authority. You could argue, and I’m sure you do, than in this case, the individual ump should be gone.
Fair enough, just as a bad cop should be gone. But that does not mean the laws against hitting cops should be lessened.
3) At its core, it is fundamentally wrong to say, “The call went against me. I will get violent.” Sportsmanship and decency matter.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
player violence?
give me a break. If the rule is NO TOUCHING then the rule is NO TOUCHING. As the ARBITER of the rules, it is MORE incumbent on the umpires to FOLLOW THE RULES.
No one got violent. At least not until the gatorade dispenser was within reach.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again
No one cares about bumps for their own sake. No one is suggesting the ump was hurt.
Bumps are seen, in my view, as cracks in the wall of authority and they are not tolerated.
And if the wall breaks, umpires have more to fear than players.
The rule has NEVER been no touching for an ump to a player. We covered this during the Bradley thing. Umps HAVE to be able to touch players to break up fights or hold people back.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot remember
the last time I saw an ump “hold someone back”.
I do remember Bradley needing to be held back when an umpire made racist comments about him.
No contact is no contact. Otherwise, the umps can continue to abuse the system.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
The next time Ted Lilly throws inside and someone charges the mound, the umps should just stand back and let everyone sort it out.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re-watch the George Brett pine tar game
Two umps practically have him in a choke hold to keep him away from McClleland
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright
that I remember. And that’s probably the most violent argument I’ve ever seen in baseball; yet no one seemed to be cowering in fear.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 2007
When Lou lost it in July of ‘07, the home plate umpire immediately got in front of him and put his arm on Lou’s chest and held him back, so to speak. Not really the same situation, but it is an instance of an umpire “holding someone back”.
by Tate491 on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
apples and oranges....
….it is as clear as day that the umpire bumped Z in a effort to provoke him further and to hopefully get him suspended.
by JB 23 on May 28, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
if the Ump is the “judge” or “the law” of the game with his game calling, wouldnt it be a bigger deal for the Ump to make contact?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm pretty sure
fontenot could take most any ump
by Hawk8 on May 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by "take"...
…you mean “punch in the groin” then, yes, I agree.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, the umpire was completely out of order IMO. He has to be held to a higher standard than a player
…..he is the freaking arbiter of the game, he should have immediately walked away from Z, instead he provoked more histrionics from a known hothead
by JB 23 on May 28, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at what you just wrote
The fact that Z is a known hothead with a history of issues will be the reason he gets suspended.
There are what, 750 players on big-league rosters? I would be 701 of them ignore the ump’s outstretched forearm and move on with their day.
The other 49 will get suspended.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dreaming....
…I bet that won’t happen.
You can bend over and tie and overweight umpires shoe for him, and you’re still going to get suspended.
by TheHawkRules on May 28, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong!
Freeze, Mister!
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to phrase it new
And anyway, we were due for an overflow thread
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna say Z gets five days (one start) and the ump gets reprimanded.
The ump leaned into Milton, too, and he still got suspended. And I fear Z’s post-bump actions may tip the scales toward a suspension. Hope I’m wrong.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right
I think that if Z had walked away, or thrown a minimum amount of fuss and not done the drama routine, he would have a great case.
I think that baseball will take a look at this and say, “You know, the ump was wrong, but we’re not going to let players behave like that, no matter the provocation”
But I also think the rebuke of the ump will remain private. Let’s just say he shouldn’t make any plans for October.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that Carlson leaning into Z
is WAY more obvious than when the other ump leaned into Bradley.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure
Zambrano will get suspended, but from what I saw, Z was turning to walk away and the Umpire walked into him and acted like Zambrano initiated it, so he could throw him out. I think it’s crap.
by James M on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I picked
the second option. But I also think Z will appeal.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ditto
and the appeal will make it 5-7 games (1 start)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Z, and here's why I hope he is suspended...
Not for the reason you might think..
Because of Milton Bradley. If they don’t suspend Z after suspending Bradley, it will be extremely unfair to MB, especially when you compare the outbursts. That’s not to say the Bradley’s suspension was justified (it was bullshit in my opinion), but to suspend MB and then not Zambrano, well – it will lead to all sorts of conclusions about favoratism, injustice, and.. yes.. racism. And I wouldn’t disagree with those conclusions. We don’t need to go there – it would be bad for the team.
If Z gets a suspension, it creates a common enemy – the umpires – and nothing works bettter than a common enemy to create cohesion in a group.
Incidently, MLB could be classy and suspend the ump as well, but i’m not holding my breath.
That said, I’ll take the suspension, and don’t think it will hurt the team. WIthout the fire and passion this team needs to win, the suspension wouldn’t have happened. I’ll take it, and I’ll take Big Nutty Z on my team any day of the week.
by DisCUBbobulated on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting idea, and you might be onto something
If Z gets a suspension, it creates a common enemy – the umpires – and nothing works bettter than a common enemy to create cohesion in a group.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 28, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it works...fair enough
I have my doubts, but hey, what we’ve been trying for 101 years hasn’t worked.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs vs The World...
Sounds like something LaRussa would dream up.
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue." - George F. Will
by Slakkr on May 28, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SI is reporting that Z will be suspended
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on May 28, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It says 6 games
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 28, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The main issue seems to be "excessive protest"
So basically, had he kept his cool, he could have really brought umpire conduct to the forefront.
Ah well, maybe next time.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umpire conduct?
I thought the umpires were on a mission from god. No one may stand in their way!
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I believe the ump tried to provoke him
And had he not risen to the bait, he could have done some good.
I do not believe the ump touched him.
But that’s our Z.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not believe the ump touched him.
Then you must not believe your eyes.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he kept his cool
there would have been no contact
by tim815 on May 28, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a pittance.
He won’t even miss a start, especially if he appeals.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he's not appealing...
He’s officially suspended.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
his start is pushed back 2 days…. big whoop
by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't get suspended for the contact
then I bet he gets 5 games for inciting the crowd.
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by Fishbone2 on May 28, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So essentially, the ruling would be:
“Yes, Zambrano you have a valid concern, but we think your reaction was completely disproportionate to what the ump did and we do not wish to encourage/forgive such behavior.”
Then the ump would get a rebuke and maybe a fine/suspension as well. He would also be forced to apologize like the ump in the Magglio situation.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt anything happens to Carlson.
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by Fishbone2 on May 28, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have officially stopped caring about this topic.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 28, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Lets see the number of games, Z appeals it does down by 2 or 3, that should be the end of it.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on May 28, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
after the ump
is also punished.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may have been discussed
Did the bleacher crowd empty their trash on the warning track like they usually do during events like this? If they didn’t, then Z shouldn’t be suspended based on inciting the crowd because usually the warning track gets covered- see Lou 2007.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on May 28, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was no trash thrown on the field yesterday.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 28, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then, the crowd wasn't incited
I’m impressed that the trash stayed in the bleachers.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on May 28, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a small victory right there.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gatorade (Pepsico) stocks looking good since the outburst.
If you look closely, you’ll notice a nice little spike around midday yesterday.
by DisCUBbobulated on May 28, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't get
why people and the league seem to think a 5 game suspension is missing a start… its not… its having a start pushed back 1 day
a 10 game suspension would be missing a start
by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A symbolic missed start?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
I figured teams weren’t allowed to do that.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In theory...
If they appeal it until around the All-Star break, they can work around a 10-game suspension as well and make it only one start instead of two.
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by Worf on May 28, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the way you think, Worf.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't control when an appeal is heard
if the appeal is heard well before the ASB, it would make no difference
but yes you’re correct that a 10 game suspension “could” theoretically be worked around an all star break to make it just one missed turn
by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i admit i'm paranoid, but...
this could be an example of what is wrong with having the (office of the) commissioner so closely tied to one team.
by tim815 on May 28, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You are not paranoid...
Twenty years from now, it will likely come out that some of the things that Bud has done have indeed been criminal.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on May 28, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he sold used cars
we all know he is an honest person with high morals and ethics, that would never take advantage of anyone, or make a decision that was not fair and well thought out. RIght?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 28, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigger issue of the day is that Ricketts is reported to be having more trouble than anticipated in coming up with the $450 M financing deal
Or so says the idiots on WSCR.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
by BLou on May 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you think they're idiots, why do you listen to them?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hates...
Most of the Cubs players and their fans, yet he still graces us with his presence.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Cuban
would have had this team bought by now…just saying
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he wouldn't have
Because even Cuban couldn’t have just put cash down on this thing because Zell is insisting the thing be financed in a tax-loophole scheme (which shouldn’t be legal—write your congressman). Zell is insisting that the money be borrowed and then paid back slowly over a long period of time because if it isn’t, Zell actually has to pay capital gains taxes. Of course, few banks right now are willing to issue such loans.
by Josh77 on May 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ode to BLou...
BLou,
Your a fucking douche. Your opinions suck and nobody likes you. You bitch like a damn White Sox fan and your embarassing to the rest of us real Cubs fans. Just because your scared to talk to girls doesnt mean you have to take it out on us. It’s time for you to grow a pair and get a life.
With love from Nevada
ChiCubsFever
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by ChiCubsFever on May 29, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z just got suspended 6 games
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on May 28, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More pressure placed on an awful bullpen
Lovely. Way to go Z. Assclown.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
by BLou on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's one start. Pull your panties out of your crack.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not even
his start is just pushed back 2 days
by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my point...
1 start for any starter can be moved around a bit to not cause any trouble.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and deposit sand?
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize this will have no impact on the team?
He’ll appeal and the team can manipulate when he serves the suspension. He’ll drop the appeal to maneuver around an off day which will result in Z not missing a start. He’ll just get one more day of rest, same result as a day off for the team.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like...
He’s not appealing. Oh well, his start gets pushed back 2 days and he’ll probably start Thursday in ATL.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's one less bat on the bench too...
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
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by tony412 on May 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there's an Assclown club...
Then, I assume you’re the president.
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.
by SackMan on May 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They meet Wednesday nights in the basement of the Jerk Store.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop eating all of the shrimp!
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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 28, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, good ..
haven’t eaten good jerk in a long time
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on May 28, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you really don't
have any idea what you’re talking about, do you.
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by drewishdrewid on May 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a clue.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 28, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ode to BLou...
BLou,
Your a fucking douche. Your opinions suck and nobody likes you. You bitch like a damn White Sox fan and your embarassing to the rest of us real Cubs fans. Just because your scared to talk to girls doesnt mean you have to take it out on us. It’s time for you to grow a pair and get a life.
With love from Nevada
ChiCubsFever
"The more i practice, the luckier i seem to get" -Yogi Berra
by ChiCubsFever on May 29, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While many may agree with your sentiment....
… I won’t tolerate namecalling from ANYONE here. This is unacceptable, and you posted it twice in this thread.
Don’t do this again.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on May 29, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your a fucking douche…Just because your scared to talk to girls doesnt mean you have to take it out on us.
You can’t hear me right now, but I’m silently judging you.
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by Goodie1969 on May 29, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there ya have it.
Don’t do the crime if ya can’t pay the time. Has there been any word on disciplinary measures against the ump? Or is that a ridiculous question?
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're smart enough to understand the umpire wasn't going to be reprimanded
You’re also smart enough to understand that this is further going to put the Cubs on the shit list of major league umpires who are infamous for holding grudges and banding together.
Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher course. It's all ball bearings ...
by BLou on May 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I kinda figured it was a ridiculous question.
And, yeah, I suppose this doesn’t make life for the 2009 Chicago Cubs any easier. But Carlos has a temper. What are ya gonna do? Still made for an entertaining afternoon of baseball.
By the way, I meant to say, “Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.”
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB never annouces disclinary actions against umpires unless it something egregious.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 28, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even think this affects the rotation
Wells, Ted, Dumpster, Marshall, offday, Wells (normal rest), Ted, Z
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on May 28, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly....
its not a big deal
by DartmouthCubsFan on May 28, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team doesn't suffer from this at all
the only thing that is hurt is Z’s wallet.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on May 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool, thanks.
I was wondering about this.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 28, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call MLB to ask what they will do to Ump Mark Carlson (212) 931-7800
They aren’t answering tonight, but Bob Watson’s extension is 7818.
Be polite and to the point, but firm! :)
by dfrancon on May 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Union
I posted this elsewhere. But is it time for Don Fehr to get off his fat wallet and him and the rest of the union do something about the umpiring or talk to Selig and co?
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on May 29, 2009 6:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Media
The media scumbags are comparing him to Michael Vick which I saw in another thread some here are too. In other words they value gatorade coolers as much as they value dogs because they consider damaging a gatorade cooler the same as killing dogs.
But the paper actually made a headline out of the ruling being either yesterday or today? How dumb. Good thing it was there. I thought they were going to announce it at halftime of a Bears game in November.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
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