Zambrano to DL, Scales called up
Looks like Z is on his way to the 15-day DL and Bobby Scales (IF, Switch Hitter) is on his way up from Iowa. I would imagine Heilman or The Shark will get a start or two.
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can you "recall" a player
who has never been to the show? Isn’t he being “called”?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
Well, he was up the other day.
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daver, you know the minimum number of days a call-up has to be w/ the big league club
before they get sent back down? I thought I remembered it being 3 days… but I’m probably wrong.
Hm, no, I'm not sure.
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I think it's the other way around
Once you’re sent down, you have to stay in the minors for three days, unless there’s an injury. But I’m not certain of that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was 10 days, unless there's an injury
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This doesn't exist
There is a minimum, 5 days, before a player sent down can be recalled, however this waiting period can be waived if there is an injury. A player does not have to remain on the 25-man roster for any certain period. Players have been recalled for one game, often pitchers, told that no matter how good their performance, they are going back to the minors after the game.
I know they don't need another 1B, but...
has you’ve seen what Jake Fox is doing in AAA:
Jake Fox is on one of those wild Triple-A tears of legend — Crash Davis-like. The Cubs journeyman hit his 12th homer — TWELVE! — and raised his average to .446. He also has eight doubles.
12 HRs and 8 Doubles? Already? WOW!
Yes, this has been discussed.
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Please, no mas
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Can he play 3b or 2b?
No? Scales is a better choice.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 4, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
This really is turning out to be...
…a remarkable run of injuries to key players. Soto, Bradley, DLee, Aramis, Marmol, now Z. Unbelievable.
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and all a bunch of minor crap
that just won’t go away. Hopefully this stops now.
Hey Cubs could you start winning again? That would be real nice.
It seems like the law of averages...
…should, at some point, say, “Enough is enough.” I mean, what are the odds of this many key players being hobbled by nagging injuries in quick succession like this?
All we can hope is the team can find a way to stick close to .500 and, at some point soon, get healthy and go on a run later this month or next.
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better now
than september.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I keep telling myself.
I just hope we’re not still looking up at the Cardinals’ red-feathered asses in September.
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See 1985...
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on May 4, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I missed the news that Dempster, Lilly, Marshall and Harden all all hurt too.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on May 4, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes it even more amazing they are 2 over 500.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on May 4, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why you need a well built 25 man roster.
But I am not jumping off of any ledges. Still early. Other teams are going through injuries as well. Not to worry.
[takes paperbag out of mouth]
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Do you mean a well built 40 man roster?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
yes that is correct
I stand corrected.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Not to be "that guy" posting "that response"
But didn’t a few of the aforementioned players participate in Bud Seligs Spring Carinval of Fail (aka the WBC)? You’ve got to wonder how that affected their normal spring conditioning routines and whether or not that lead to them not being in baseball-ready condition. Geo for sure has been affected (I heard he only caught 4 INNINGS all Spring) and Marmol’s loss I think is still messing w/ his head, although he looked great the other day. DLee is coming around (new batting stance, thanks Sarge), Rami is supposed to be back tonight, Bradley is… Bradley (sort of what I expected with a DH trying to play OF everyday)… and the Z injury is… a freak injury, it’s going to happen w/ any player that goes 100% on a play he isn’t conditioned for.
Well, only two.
I believe Geo’s shoulder thing pre-dated the WBC. (He described it as a recurring problem.) And, of course, Marmol’s injury happened on the mound just recently. I’m not sure I’m ready to believe Marmol’s WBC outing has really affected his head. He’s probably a guy who’ll always struggle to pull himself together from time to time.
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With a guy like Marmol
You have to wonder how much that really did affect him… he is a 99% mental player, meaning he only needs about 1% of his ability to pitch effectively… similar to how Zambrano used to be back in the day, one little thing would happen and it would affect his next 2 or 3 starts… I just worry with Marmol being so young what kind of lasting affect that (and his subsequent failings the first few weeks) has taken on his mental approach on the rubber.
As far as Geo goes, even I noticed he looked awfully heavy the first few weeks. He had a good deal of baby fat on his face, and I was worried it would affect him negatively. I think he’s starting to come out of his hitting slump, and he’s looking a lot leaner so it looks like Mark ONeal got him pointed in the right direction again. And remember, this would be about the time Geo and Carlos would be hitting week one of the opening season, had they been at spring camp the whole time.
Here's a response
(understanding that you may be playing Devil’s Advocate)
What about a guy like Shairon Martis, who just threw a complete game victory against the Phillies and who played in the WBC? Or Kosuke Fukodome, who is off to a great start? Or even Kevin Youkilis?
I do wonder why lots of players who did play in the WBC are off to great starts but it never gets mentioned, while everyone who is hurt or slumping who played in the WBC is because they played in the WBC.
Several dozen major leaguers played in the WBC. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that some of them are hurt and some of them are slumping.
Fukudome played in it as well
so your point is?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Darn
I would’ve liked to see Lou get Ascaino or Wells up here. This is where I miss Gaudin.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
Why?
Gaudin was not very good. Heilman or Shark should be able to handle a start or two.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on May 4, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You're probably alone in that.
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It being Shark or Heilman to start is a good sign to me. That means they really only expect it to be 2-3 starts.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on May 4, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
another roster move is pending
Looks like wells will start friday
Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.
This is tempoary
Wells won’t be needed until Friday, so why not call Scales up until then and then send him down Friday for Wells?
Congratulations, Bobby Scales. What a long, strange trip it’s been for you.
Yeah, it's cool to see a lifer like him finally get his cup o' coffee.
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I was in the show for 21 days once...
We had white balls to hit in practice. The parks were like cathedrals.
And the woman all had long legs and brains.
I can agree that this guy is a great story. I hope he gets a dinger or, even a key sac fly, that he can remember for the rest of his life.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
How exciting for him!
I’m glad he got called up so soon after being so close. He must have been so disappointed.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I forgot who but back in 92 or 93 they called up someone for a few days and on his last day before going back down he hadn’t gotten into a game and Lefebvre got him in the game so he could tell his grandkids he actually played in a major league game in case the guy never got back.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on May 4, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Salute to Scales!
10 years in the minors. I hope Scales gets a chance to not only play but to start while he’s up, finally for him.
Cool story.
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Wells is scheduled to pitch tonight (per IowaCubs.com)
so, if he does, his start Friday (for Zambrano) would be on three-days rest. I think it will be telling if he pitches tonight or is limited in pitch count.
FWIW, Iowa’s rotation looks like this for the week: Monday – Wells, Tuesday – Atkins, Wed. – Ascanio, Thurs. – Mathes
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We'll see if he actually does
The I-Cubs would have posted that this morning (or even last night) before anything got decided. If he doesn’t pitch (or gets pulled after three innings or so) that would be a sign he’s definitely making the start on Friday.
Scales will pitch in place of Z
SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
As well he should
All nine players should be able to do every other job. Soto should be able to play CF. Fukudome should be able to play 2B and Cotts should be able to play catcher.
You aren’t a baseball player if you don’t do that.
So, let’s see Scales snap off a few breaking balls. If he doesn’t hit 92 on the gun, he’s worthless.
Sorry about bailing on the other thread. I did have to get some work done. Looks like you guys did fine without me.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
only if he can bunt
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Oops, I did a fanpost on this now...didn't see yours. Sorry. How do I remove it?
Next time I’ll check before I post…my bad.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Under your profile settings, there should be a manage FanPosts/Shots section.
Go there and click on the red ‘X’ do delete yours.
Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.
OK. Thanks.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I'm sure yours won't be the last one posted
With news like this the over/under for matching fanposts/shots is usually around 4. We’re only at 2!
I deleted my fanpost but here is a suntimes article on the 15 day DL:
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1557460,carlos-zambrano-hamstring-dl-050409.article
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
A pitcher missing 2-3 weeks,
even if it is your best one, isn’t as bad as a position player missing 2-3 weeks.
It still sucks, but the Cubs will be fine.
by Not Bruce Froemming on May 4, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
Options in Iowa
Here are the top 4 pitchers in Iowa, with at least 2 games started…
Jose Ascanio – 1-2, 6.99 ERA, 28.1 IP, 31 H, 5 HR, 27 K, 9 BB, 1.41 WHIP
Mitch Atkins – 0-1, 1.25 ERA, 21.2 IP, 15 H, 0 HR, 17 K, 7 BB, 1.02 WHIP
Randy Wells – 3-0, 3.13 ERA, 23 IP, 19 H, 1 HR, 19 K, 6 BB, 1.09 WHIP
Esmailin Caridad – 3-1, 4.15 ERA, 21.2 IP, 2 HR, 18 K, 11 BB, 1.52 WHIP
Linky: http://iowa.cubs.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=451&stn=true&sid=t451
So, assuming Scales is up for 15 and only 15...
how much money will he make? I don’t know why, but I’m really curious about this but don’t know.
I know minor leaguers make next to nothing, so he’s gotta be pumped about the payday almost as much as actually making it to the big leagues!
I think it would be
the ML Min salary / 180 days.
$400,000 / 180 days = $2,222 per day, plus per diem when they are on the road
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like someone's gettin' the new iPhone!
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a few things
Scales likely is only gonna be up in the majors for 3 or 4 days. But what I think is the added bonus is that he’s now on the 40-man roster. IIRC now that he’s on the 40-man, he makes more money, even if he’s sent back down (as long as remains on the 40-man, though that would necessitate him going on waivers).
you're right
guys on the 40-man are paid more, even if they’re in the minors.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
here you go
http://www.mlb4u.com/wiki/index.php/Minimum_salary
Looks like Scales will get at least $65K once he goes back down.
This may be a blessing in disguise
I’m still paranoid about Zambrano’s shoulder from the end of last year, especially when he neglected to inform anyone it was hurting. Missing 2 or 3 start will mean he is that much more fresh come september
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No big deal
I mean according to our Mets fan on here Zambrano is the most inconsistent starter in the NL anyways right? :)
Im in Chicago next week and really wanted to see him pitch. Have I told you in the last 5 games I’ve seen Z pitch he’s hit a HR in 4 of them. That’s a pretty nice stat.
Z
I have never seen him lose a regular season game at home. The only loss I saw him start in the regular season was last year opening day and he had a ND.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on May 4, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We're both good luck charms I guess!
I’ve actually seen him lose two games though. One was at Shea against Victor Zambrano. That was a bad game. The other game was against the Padres when he had a no no into the 7th. That was also the famous brawl on Wrigley.
Other than that I’ve seen him quietly defeat Mets twice, win in LA (he might have hit a HR that game…don’t think so though) and win at Wrigley twice. I know he’s hit 4 HR’s when I’ve been there but other than at Shea I can’t tell you when they were. I might have also seen him pitch in Philly and getting one of those wins mixed up.
He IS inconsistent...
he’s also good. Saying that Zambrano is the most inconsistent starter in the NL doesn’t mean Zambrano is not good. It just means he’s not consistently good.
I was being sarcastic
To the post yesterday stating he was the most inconsistent in NL.
I realize that...
I’m just not sure why you have a beef with that post though. It’s probably accurate – the guy is really inconsistent, even though he is also (on aggregate) pretty darn good.
Oh I agree
As I said, it was just sarcasm. However you’re right about really good but he’s never been outright minor league what are you doing on a major league team bad.
Why wont Samardzija get a shot?
The sub par bullpen earlier in the year has already caused him to be jerked around this year, give him a shot at starting in the bigs already. You can only shift him back and forth from starter to reliever so many times
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Lou said they're just starting to get the bullpen straightened out
and don’t want to mess with it.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 4, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
well theyre messing with him was my point
by switching him back and forth the past two years
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
It's definitely not good for Samardzija's development as a pitcher...
for a guy who is still raw and developing, moving him to the bullpen isn’t going to help him develop the pitches necessary to be a starter. And it’s backfiring now in that he’d probably have been the callup to fill in for Zambrano, but now he’s being wasted at the end of the bullpen.
My point exactly
B/C Hendry did such a horrible job assembling the bullpen, our best pitching prospect is being wasted in the middle innings
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
imo
they should send him back down, and bring up someone else.
on the other hand, Marshall filled the long-man role pretty well last year and he’s starting this year, and doing ok. his last start was amazingly good, till the pen blew it.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 5, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
which is why Marshall should relieve himself....
oh nevermind!
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
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