Milton Bradley to get his hearing in Houston

I didn't see the argument, but I did see the pitches -- bad. From what I've read, the contact was incidental and the umpire did nothing to diffuse the situation.

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FREE MILTON BRADLEY!

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Only to the first 10,000 in attendance

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on May 6, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 6, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His name is Robert Paulson

I am Jack’s raging bile duct.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on May 6, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully the suspension gets reduced

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Even if the caps slightly tipped...

…you must acquit!

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

As of 3:50 p.m. CDT, per Twitter

“cst_cubsSuspension not upheld yet: bradley batting 3rd. Lee gets day off.”

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on May 6, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And a lineup is in:

Soriano
TheMotherF’inRiot
Bradley
Ramirez
Soto
ReJo
Hoffpauir (Playing 1B)
Miles
Harden

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by Schwa on May 6, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least

Fonty gets a day off. Wish they’d played Scales at second, tho.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Strange.

Lee with a day off vs. a lefthander. Sometimes I just cannot figure Lou out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 6, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he has bad career numbers against Hampton?

Or he just had good career numbers against Lincecum yesterday?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 6, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My thoughts exactly.

Unless Lou feels there’s some strategic advantage to having at least one left-handed hitter facing a LHP.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harden is a left-handed batter so that makes 2.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 6, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's running a fine line between keeping his regulars rested,

and keeping them on the bench enough to stay out of rhythm. Obviously injuries have forced his hand a little, but let the big boys play if they’re healthy.

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by Schwa on May 6, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just chalked it up to the fact

everyone else got a day off yesterday. Its Lee’s turn.

OR am I not remembering yesterday very well?

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather forget yesterday.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 6, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I turned it off when Shark came in

And looking at the recap… that might’ve been a smart choice.

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they were in it

till he let loose.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just not sold on Shark at all

out of the ’pen.

I wanted them to leave him in Iowa until he was ready to step in for Harden (when Harden inevitably needs some time off) because I see Shark as a starter.

If he ever gets those secondary pitches together.

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's because of his neck flaring up according to Gordo.

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by Schwa on May 6, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hope that's a mild one.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno.

I’m worried this going to be lingering all year. Doesn’t seem like something that just goes away with a day off here and there.

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by Schwa on May 6, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they have

to figure this out.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Most spine things are like that

Good days and bad.

Hope Hoff can do well at first….

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i am living proof

never fun. never go away 100%, they just hibernate and return when you are not expecting it

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 6, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bulging discs and/or herniated discs don't go away on their own

I have one (woo-hoo) and other than surgery, the prevalent prescription is anti-inflammatory drugs and steroids. I doubt the latter are kosher with MLB. So besides rest and a bit of luck getting a good bed and pillows at the hotel, DLee is on his way to the OR.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on May 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yikes

Spine surgery is dicey. Once they operate on things like that, even once they’re healed.. you’re never quite right again.

(BTW: Hope you’re doing okay, Chilango!)

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually,

the myriad doctors I’ve seen have described fairly minimally-invasive surgery and full recovery—for me—is about four weeks. An athlete like Lee should recover sooner. I haven’t opted for the surgery because my hernia surrounds the sciatic nerve and I’m a big, HUGE pansy.

Thanks Allie!

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on May 6, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if flying aggravates it..

Didn’t the last time also occur when they were on the road?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 6, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It does to me

but Lee’s is on his neck and I bet swinging the bat and sleeping crooked aggravates his.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on May 6, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so could sleeping funky

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 6, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well thats good

My aunt had spine surgery a few years ago. And she’s never been quite the same physically. But her’s was much more serious.

by Allie on May 6, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually

I don’t think MLB disallows steroids when it’s for a medical reason.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would be interesting to research

I gots two hours before gametime…

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on May 6, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the interest of ending D-Lee power decline angst on BCB...

… I demand that he be allowed to pursue a… fully medical… steroid program this instant!

by aldimond on May 6, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Our Fanpost bar hangs in the balance!

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by dat cubfan daver on May 7, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't Ritalin a steroid?

Players can get a waiver if they take ritalin for treatment for ADD.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 6, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wrong

there is one you left out, that i used for two in my back. Spinal Decompression (basically being a human accordian) www.procarespine.com is where i got treatment

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 6, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I said that about a pepper the other day.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

again?

AUGH!

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 6, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep, I just dont dig Miles at all.

by smash! on May 6, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Choice quote via Twittermeyer:

Bradley: ‘I just know I was honest and told the truth … A reduction would be warranted. But a reduction to zero would be justified.’

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My guess is we'll know the decision within 24 hours.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on May 6, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

also

“Chad Fox in the house. Awaiting word on bullpen roster move (samardzjia?)

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

I think that means the Shark is swimming back to Iowa.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and we didn't even need a bigger boat

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 6, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's official now BTW.

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by Schwa on May 6, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All of the tweets from Gordo will be posted in the game preview...

… which will be up at 5 pm CDT. I won’t bother with the Bradley stuff because it’s already got its own thread (this one).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 6, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man, he was the annointed closer for what,

2 games back under Dusty. With the way that arm fell off going the second day, who every would have thought he’d come back once, let alone twice.

Chad “Steve Austin” Fox it is.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 6, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't say I'm thrilled to have him back in the pen.

On the bright side, he might make Neal Cotts look a lot better.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, when he's been healthy with the Cubs

for those brief windows, he’s been very effective.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on May 6, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chad Fox?

Really?

I thought his elbow fell off?

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's been kicking around in the Cubs system for last couple seasons or so.

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by dat cubfan daver on May 6, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I knew that

but didn’t he get shelved last year for a nerve thing in elbow… ulnar something itis.

But, if he can come up and throw strikes: I’m all for it.

by Allie on May 6, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That'll make for interesting pitching, then, without an elbow.

Posted this in a FanShot on the front page.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 6, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can see Z doing that, can't you?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 6, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wouldn't it need

to be his leg?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I used to have

this very comic. I should buy reprints, my kid would love them.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee's neck is bothering him, hence why he is out of the lineup

I swear to God if Bobby Scales takes on Matt Murton like mystique around here I shall come through the computer screen and kill somebody.

Bobby Scales is tasting his probable first and last 5 days in the major leagues folks. And NO, he is not suitable option to serve on the Cub bench.

The window for winning a World Series may have waned.

by BLou on May 6, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And Joey Gathright is?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 6, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't say that

But Bobby Scales? C’mon. He has no value on the bench. None, nada, zero. Cubs can and must do better than Bobby Scales as an option on the bench.

The window for winning a World Series may have waned.

by BLou on May 6, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

None?

He played a credible 2B yesterday and got a hit. That’s more than “zero” value.

If you have a better option, let’s hear it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 6, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

he didnt look like the second coming, but didnt fall flat on his face as well. sounds like a possible role player to me.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 6, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

where does this mythical

option on the bench COME FROM then? He’s in our system. He’s inexpensive. He’s quick on the basepaths, and he’s arguably as good as Miles fielding. He doesn’t overrun bases and he got a hit against Tim freakin’ Lincecum.

We’re not going to get JJ Hardy as a backup infielder.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and you're basing this on what,exactly?

One game? Pete’s sake.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 6, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeff Samardzija

Jeff Samardzija is not ready to pitch in the big leagues. Simple as that. It is mystery to me why he was called up in the first place. I sure in the heck hope that someday he delivers on even a fraction of the hype because I’m having increasingly difficult time understanding what his major league future really may be.

I would have liked to see Jose Ascanio or Jeff Stevens called up. But Jim Hendry has long had a soft spot for Chad Fox in the same way he has apparent love affair for Notre Dame football players. Sigh.

The window for winning a World Series may have waned.

by BLou on May 6, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Another "It would never happen" situation, but....

what if MLB upheld Bradley’s supsension, and Lou, Hendry, Crane, and basically the whole Cubs organization considered the suspension wrong, and sent Bradley out to play anyway?

Would the umpires not allow him to take the field, or enter the batter’s box? If they did, would the opposing team have a case for winning the game automatically via a Cubs forfeit? Would it result in a suspension for Lou, and/or massive fines for the club?

Again, I know this situation is an impossibility of ever occurring…. just wondering what it would result in, if it ever happened.

by MillsChC on May 7, 2009 1:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No baseball management would ever do that.

The rules are there; whether they agreed with the decision or not, to break a rule like this would make them hated in the baseball world.

I’m not sure what would happen if any team did that, but as you say, it’s impossible. No team would do it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 7, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would bet it would lead to

fines (team, manager, gm, possible player) and additional suspensions (manager, gm, player), along with a forfeit

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 7, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

incidental

occurring by chance – that meaning wouldn’t fit.

by ol Pete on May 7, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes, it would.

Bradley did not go out there INTENDING to brush cap bills. It happened by chance.

If a player gets angry and pushes into an umpire — which has happened before — there’s much more intent behind that. That didn’t happen in this case.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 7, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would consider this one closer to

picking the fly shit out of the pepper, rather than contact. the ump really went a tad overboard about it IMO

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 7, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

It’s a tough call for MLB — they don’t want to throw the umpires under the bus, but in this case Vanover went overboard. I think Bradley was suspended on reputation here, not on what really happened.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 7, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

c'mon

that’s about as big a stretch as can be. It’s an easy call for MLB.

Umpires do what Vanover did frequently and with good reason. I can’t ever remember a player going postal and the umpire not facing them and removing their mask.

by ol Pete on May 7, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vanover took steps toward Bradley.

That’s what caused the incidental contact, not Bradley making a move toward the umpire.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 7, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 7, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If your recollection is incorrect

or Bradley also moved forward would your judgement then change?

by ol Pete on May 7, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe, but...

… that’s the way everyone except Vanover saw it. The tapes are pretty conclusive.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You think it was unpredictable?

Lack of intention doesn’t mean it was incidental. Bradley was doing his usual freak out.

by ol Pete on May 7, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not really

but you keep on thinking that.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 7, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a question, a clarification and a statement

and you say not really.

by ol Pete on May 7, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, I do.

Bradley was not doing his “usual” freak out. You are deliberately misrepresenting what happened. I daresay if that happened on the other BCB, you’d be foaming at the mouth.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 7, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but if the ump moves towards Bradley

isnt is plausible the Ump made the contact with MB and then over reacted?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 7, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is there video somewhere?

by ol Pete on May 7, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that's the point -- there is video

This is part of a larger problem. Too many umpires think that they are bigger than the game.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on May 7, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is there video?

yes, and it has been shown unteen times. the contact not only looks to be incidential, but so minor that the reaction of the ump was overbaord. the ump moved towards MB, and you can even see MB turning and the ump turning with him.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 7, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haven't you seen it?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 7, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bradley

just sit your ass bradley. not like your not used to it.hendry is not looking too good after this offseason.resigned gaudin and released him .traded marquis for another pitcher and released him.bradley doing nothing. gathright never plays.hard to get the job done when you dont have the money.and may i beat a dead horse???we should have signed adam dunn.

by NOMAR on May 7, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't beat the dead horse, please.

Bradley was quoted as saying that he served his past suspensions without appeal because he felt he deserved them. This time he appealed because he thought he was right. I agree with him.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 7, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no we should not have signed Dunn

his defense is horrific, and his offense would not have offset the defensive downfall.

Marquis I agree, he should not have traded, but on the flipside, Marshall has done nicely (so far) as the 5th starter. He is not looking stuipid on the starting rotation part of that trade.

Vizciano was a move that has many scratching their heads both at the time of the trade and the time of the release, will give you that one.

Gathright, no one seems to know his role. He has looked bad on the bases, cannot hit, should be defensive replacement in the OF for Sorinao or MB almost each night. This one is on Lou for not having figured out how to use Gathright, not Hendry.

and as Al said, MB feels he does not deserve the suspension, and I agree with him for saying so and sticking to his guns on it.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 7, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs