The End Of The Gathright Era, The Beginning Of The Freel Era (And Hopefully, The Beginning Of The End Of The Chad Fox Era): Cubs vs. Brewers, Friday 5/8, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on May 8, 2009 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintHere is the official press release announcing the Cubs' trade of Joey Gathright to the Orioles for Ryan Freel. The Cubs get "a cash consideration", which according to Gordo, will "cover the difference between what remains on Gathright's salary and what's left on Freel's salary this season". (That means there was no financial risk on the Cubs' part.) Randy Wells, tonight's starter, replaces Gathright on the 25-man roster. Wells will wear #36.
Well (not "wells"). Ryan Freel is known as "hard-nosed", but he really hasn't been very good since 2006, and has had quite a few injuries since then. Frankly, I'd rather have kept Bobby Scales around (I assume Scales is headed back to Iowa when Freel reports tomorrow). Freel, at least, can play multiple positions (2B, 3B, and all three OF positions). Unlike Scales, he hits only righthanded. He used to draw a fair number of walks (he had a .370 OBA in his three best years, 2004-2006), so if he can do that as a part-time player, he'll be somewhat useful.
This is just ... weird. Passed along without comment. (WARNING! Mute your speakers. Annoying audio loop comes with this link, that you can't turn off.)
Other baseball news: the Diamondbacks fired manager Bob Melvin and will announce that former major league catcher A. J. Hinch will replace him. Hinch has no professional coaching or managing experience; this is similar to the Bulls' hiring of Vinny del Negro this year. I think Rob Neyer's take, posted yesterday before the firing, is exactly right:
I suppose the knock against the Diamondbacks is that they're not as good as their young players, a year or two ago, led us to believe they would become. But aside from [Chris] Young, the chief offenders this spring have been the 27-year-old [Conor] Jackson and the (almost) 29-year-old [Chad] Tracy. Pick up decent seasons from those two and get [Brandon ]Webb off the DL, and the Diamondbacks are sitting right around .500.
Finally, tomorrow from 11 am to 1 pm, Kasey Ignarski and I will be at the Book Stall in downtown Winnetka to talk about "Cubs By The Numbers" and sign copies of the book. If you don't have your copy yet, here's an opportunity to get one and meet Kasey and me. Also appearing at the Book Stall with us will be Jim McArdle, who will be signing copies of his book "Living The Dream".
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Dave Bush is 1-7 lifetime vs. the Cubs with a 4.80 ERA. Despite nearly throwing a no-hitter earlier this year vs. the Phillies, his overall marks of a 4.36 ERA is pretty close to his career average. He was the starting pitcher vs. the Cubs on April 11 in Milwaukee; he left the game with a 3-2 lead, but the Brewers bullpen blew it and the Cubs won 6-5. Kosuke Fukudome homered off Bush that day. Derrek Lee is only 4-for-27 lifetime vs. Bush, so maybe it'd be a good idea to give him another day off even if his neck is OK.
Randy Wells is making his first major league start. He faced Milwaukee twice in relief last September, on the 17th and 18th at Wrigley Field; the only Brewer to reach base against him was J. J. Hardy, who walked with the bases loaded. The run was charged to Jeff Samardzija. As you may remember, the Cubs came back and won that game in 12 innings, thanks in great part to Geovany Soto's two-out, three-run, game-tying HR in the bottom of the 9th. It'd be nice if Geo could channel that energy starting tonight.
Today's game is on WGN, and on EI via FSN Wisconsin (yes, their announcers are awful). For more games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Overflow comment threads will post today at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CDT.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Back by 3rd inning.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Freel is currently on the 15-day disabled list bc he was hit in the head by a pick-off throw. So I don’t think Scales has to go quite yet…
Think Al said he would be activated tomorrow
then Scales goes down.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
That was what I saw in one of the threads...
… not sure which link that came from.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
if a bit long.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Yeah, I know.
I couldn’t figure out how to shorten it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
LOL
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
It would never pass muster on Twitter, Al.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I agree with one thing in particular from this post.....
enough already with the Chad Fox comebacks. I understand that he’s a good guy (people say he’s one of the nicest guys in the game), it’s a great story, he’s an easy guy to root for, and I’m also well aware that the fact that he was basically throwing BP last night to the Houston hitters may well have been due to simple rust. I get all of that. Great story, great guy, good mushy story, all that. Well and good. And I mean this, no sarcasm intended: I wish him all the best, and he truly has a lot of heart and courage.
Now, having said all that, can we please release the guy? I have nothing against a good story, but I’d rather have a good bullpen. Enough already with the Chad Fox story.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
A question to the encyclopedias here:
What was the name of that kid who was called up from Iowa and pitched a 1-hitter vs. Houston in 2006?
Well, I hope Wells does the same tonight.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Wow that brings back memories.
He didn’t last long, unfortunately
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
O'Malley gave up five hits in eight innings.
The Cubs won 1-0 on a Michael Barrett HR. Boxscore
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I just googled him
“Currently a free agent.”
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I wanna say he was pitching for the Schaumburg Flyers recently.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
But he was let go at the end of last season
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
He was going to play with the Flyers last season,
but then accepted a deal to play in the White Sox organization in the minor leagues. I think he go hurt.
cubs = love
One of the very few bright spots from 2006.
Without a doubt, the worst year of my life as a Cubs fan. Sox fans beating their chests as defending World Champs. Cardinals get hot at just the right time and win it all with a .500 team. And as icing on the cake, the worst Cubs team of my life. If any season has ever tested my loyalty, that was it.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
I sure didn't see this trade coming
I thought after this morning Gathright was a goner to my town (Des Moines). Can Freel bring anything to the table we want? Anyone out there have more than stats on him?
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
He brings a capable glove at third base.
And he’s got pretty strong career OBP numbers. He’s good in center and right field, too. This is all assuming he’s healthy, of course, and not being distracted by the little gnome named Farney that lives in his head.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I was just reading that Freel can be a real pain in the ass for a manager
But I don’t see that being a problem under Sweet Lou and a winning situation in Chicago. Come in here ala Reed Johnson and accept a role. Apparently the addition of Ty Wiggington in Baltimore sent Freel into vapor lock.
Yeah, there's been some talk of his attitude problems.
I’m a little worried about him and Milton in the same clubhouse. We’ll see what we see, though.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Yeah, ya figure Big Z, Freel, Bradley, Lou.
We gotta whole lotta crazy in our clubhouse. But that could pay off.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
At least it will be entertaining.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
so basically
they’re all in teh club house, refusing to take their eyes off one another. “Play me, or I’ll CUTCHA!”
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny how winning solves everything, huh?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
its not Freel
its the voices in his head….
reminds me of this show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman’s_Head
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Ryan Freel is a nice acquisition
Freel provides a lot of versatility. He’s had a somewhat checkered last couple of years and didn’t exactly endear himself in either Cincinnati or Baltimore. But hopefully he can come in here and accept his role ala Reed Johnson and be a quality addition to the bench. Injuries have been a big issue, but they are rumored to often be the result of playing with reckless abandon.
I’m still hating every second of the day the presence of Aaron Miles. But I guess you can’t have everything in life.
The man trims a nice goatee, you gotta give him that.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
So the bench becomes...
Hill, Miles, Freel, Hoffpauir, Johnson
That's a group that deserves a nickname.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm calling them the scrap heap
gotta love the scrap factor.
by Allie on May 8, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oooohh, that's good, I like it!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
we need to find a replacement for Freel
whose first names begins with the letter “A” (another aaron maybe)
then we could use their first name intials to spell K-A-R-M-A
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
no offense but you must really have to much time on your hands to figure that out
LOL
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
sad but true
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
not that it's a bad thing.....
that was me last summer :)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of trimmed
this Playoff Beard i am growing (for the Hawks) is a pain in the booty when it is 90+ out
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Who's booty? Wait, I don't want to know.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you want me to draw you a picture?
oh wait – that’s your line. Sorry…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
LMAO toboth of ya
i guess pain in the chin is better?
no cuz TWSS will follow……..
its not something made for when it is hot
nope, that too will be TWSS
I give up
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Over under on # of users Al bans during tonight's game...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
can't go under on zero
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
hope there is a nearby wormhole.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I thought a wormhole was something you could travel through
If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
yep to go to a different universe
in theory anyway
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
if he unbans someone
does that count as -1
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
any particular reason?
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
SWL saw a gaggle of trolls headed this way.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I wasn't in the game threads for the first Mil series, was it ugly
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
It's been reasonably fine
Yesterday was just a clusterf$%k
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Has Sue sent around an email showing what happened last night?
I’m interested in seeing that, as I missed it and only got on in the ninth inning.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
it was
well, an interesting time, no doubt.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
So I gathered,
From a post Drew made in the recap.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
once he snapped
every post was nothing but a jab at someone, and nothing kind about it. for the first time, i was flagging a poster
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
"Dear Penthouse Letters... I never thought this would happen to me..."
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad I missed it
I was working late, and it was an unusually busy night. I only began to catch the game in the ninth inning, about the time of Soriano’s second HR.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Here it is
kreutzer 1984 vt @ yahoo dot com
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
The proper term for a group of trolls is "rabble"....
ie…SWL saw a rabble of trolls headed this way.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
rabble rabble
or a group of hamburglers
by chitownhawkeye on May 8, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Randy Wells
has so far pitched 5.1 innings in the majors without allowing a hit. Let’s see him keep that up tonight.
Now, why did you have to say that.....
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Moo...
Gotta stop believin in hexes.
throws salt over his left shoulder
by northernsails on May 8, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Fox
Too early to give up on him. I was surprised he was working 93-94 last night. It is not like he is throwing upper 80’s junk up there. If he can’t throw strikes his next outing or two then fine let him go but you can’t send a guy packing for one bad outing in his first appearance. They obviously wouldn’t have brought him up if reports from Iowa weren’t good.
Uh oh.
There’s that “speed” argument again. May I remind you that Bob Howry threw consistently 92-93 last year. How’d that work out?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
and how did that work out for us?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
he sucked
i’m not saying chad fox definitely isn’t done… but he might not be.
i just think if you’ve kept him around this long, you give him more than a handful of pitches to see what he’s got before giving up.
As long as Lou only lets him near the mound with a >5 run lead...
I’m ok with him giving it a few more shots. What I do not want to see is Fox making his way to the mound in a tight game with runners on base. At least not until he’s shown the ability to throw pitches in the strike zone that batters don’t destroy.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I completely
agree.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
97 wins.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yes....and again...
teams win WITH, BECAUSE and IN SPITE OF their players. In most of the wins Howry was involved in, which of those three do you think best describes the situation.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I guess.
Still, I think we can give Chad Fox ONE MORE shot.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying we shouldn't.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
ok
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
all i am saying al
is that you have somewhat of a history of writing people off early or assigning some sort of role or tag to players when they really haven’t done anything to deserve it. Your mind was made up on Fox before he even threw one pitch this year. Give him the benefit of the doubt here. The velocity is there and the Cubs think he still has the stuff or they wouldn’t have him around. Whether or not he will put it together is yet to be decided but I don’t see the need to drag his name through the mud when he hasn’t had time to prove himself yet where we can come to those conclusions.
You all aren't seeing the bigger picture. This is the beginning of a whole new era for the Cubs.
Here are a few more deals coming down the pike in the next few weeks:
- Bradley to Toronto for BJ Ryan.
- ARam to Milwaukee for Ryan Braun
- Soriano & DLee to Philly for Ryan Howard & Ryan Madson
- Gregg, Harden & Fontenot to St Louis for Ryan Franklin, Ryan Ludwick & Brendan Ryan
- Dome to Seattle for Ryan Rowland-Smith
- Zambrano to Washington for Ryan Zimmerman
- Soto to Pittsburgh for Ryan Doumit
- Marmol to Colorado for Ryan Spilborghs & Ryan Speier
- Hoffpauir to Cleveland for Ryan Garko
- Johnson to New York for Ryan Church
- Hill to Florida for Ryan Jorgenson
- Heilman & Patton to Detroit for Ryan Perry & Ryan Raburn
Ladies & Gentlemen – your 2009 All Ryan Chicago Cubs:
Ryan Spilborghs – CF
Ryan Theriot – SS
Ryan Braun – LF
Ryan Howard – 1B
Ryan Ludwick – RF
Ryan Zimmerman – 3B
Ryan Doumit – C
Brendan Ryan – 2B
Rotation: Ryan Dempster, Ryan Madson, Ryan Rowland-Smith and Ted Lilly*
Bullpen: B.J. Ryan, Ryan Franklin, Ryan Perry, Ryan Speier
Bench: Ryan Freel, Ryan Church, Ryan Garko, Ryan Jorgenson, Ryan Raburn
* Hendry tried to trade Lilly but all the other teams knew they had nothing of equal value to offer.
Once Ricketts finally becomes owner, he gets into the action and trades Crane Kenney to the Rangers for Nolan Ryan.
At the end of the season, Lou will retire and be replaced with (who else), Ryne Sandberg.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Jack Ryan sees what you did there....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
would it be easier
to just have the current Cubs legally change their names to Ryan across the board
Ryan Piniella
Ryan Bradley
Ryan Lee
Ryan Hoffpauir
Ryan Miles
and so on
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Nolan Ryan for Pitching Coach?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Hell...
I’d take him as our closer…even at his age.
by northernsails on May 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope to see some of you up in Winnetka tomorrow...
Now, if only the Web page Al links to would spell my name right…geeze…IGNARSKI…It’s not all that hard. All my life, I have had to deal with people spelling my first name with a “C” instead of a “K”, but I have never had trouble with people spelling Ignarski wrong until this book.
Kasey
See what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html
Also, see the Cubs 2009 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2009.html
I can relate.
I’ve spent my whole life with peole putting an H on Sara.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i finally gave up
everyone’s tried to add an e to my name my whole life… so i just decided to do it myself (well that and the fact someone already had Alli without an e. :-P)
At least they got it right on the book itself, right?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I know what you mean
My last name is German, and it’s been mispronounced and misspelled for as long as I can remember.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
German ancestry, that is.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
“German” seems pretty easy to pronounce and spell.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You are such a smartass.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
there is a solution for that....
but it’s nsfmb’s
It's not "German"
It begins with a “K”, and I almost never hear it pronounced correctly on the first try.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He knows that. Don't humor him.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
aw.
I want ice-cream!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You'll get nothing and like it!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
If you don't eat your meat, you won't get any pudding...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on May 8, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brewers announcers aren't bad
You don’t like Brian Anderson and Schroeder? I’ve never had a problem with them. They aren’t these obnoxious fanboy types that spew venom at the opposing team at every opportunity (ala thom brenneman (sp)). Are they my favorite? No, but they seem fine!
I love listening to Bob Uecker on the radio.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on May 8, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Classic
Uecker is great. Funny dude. But I was responding to what I believe was Al saying the Brewers TV guys are bad.
I don't care for the Brewers TV guys.
Uecker, though, is terrific.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Anything in particular?
Or just find them kinda “meh”? … if that’s the case, I can see that.
the one good thing is....
they’re not morgan & company
Awww, isn't that always how it goes?!
I manage to come up with a manageable nickname for a useless player, and what does Jim Hendry do? Trade the guy away in order to make the team better.
Damn you Jim!!
Why didn't you ever make a nickname up for Nefi? Thanks a lot!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
what about one for Cotts?
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
My last favorite pitcher....
maybe the nickname can speed along the process.
(I’m giving Fox benefit of doubt after only an inning… he could easily become least fav pitcher)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, CottonGin
because Reaching in there is a mistake
by northernsails on May 8, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Aplets and Cottless
It’s a NW joke
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr
by bubbamike the one and only on May 8, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
GO CUBS GO!!!
Guy at bar: "Do you just like that hat or do you like Chicago?"
Me: "I'm in Love, Obsessed and Addicted to the Chicago Cubs!"
It's a little early to sing that...
but I like your enthusiasm.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
*channeling Mike Meyers*
Theriot A-go-go baby, yeah!
by northernsails on May 8, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to talk about it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Love these Brewers/Cubs Games
These series are my favorite ones…here’s hoping the Crew is stymied by the new guy! Anyone know anything about Wells’ pitches? Sinkerballer, junkballer, etc? I don’t remember anything about him except that he seemed pretty good at throwing strikes in his brief stint.
There is a fan shot about him.
Gives fair amount of details.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Found it, Thanks
Looks like 4-seamer, sinker, change, slider…topping out at around 90 mph. So he’ll be the type that needs excellent command to get through the innings unscathed.
Here’s to a quality start! A win in front of facing Gallardo would be nice.
kind of sad when things don't work out
And don’t get me wrong I totally agree with this move. Gath didn’t belong on this Cubs club.
But I’m a big proponent of managers using the players that gives them the best chance to succeed. Gathright never had a chance on this club.
But it also has to work both ways, if Lou has to use his bench wisely to get the most of the team as a whole. Then also a player like Gath, who has some mlb time under his belt, has to sign with a team that will at least give him a chance to play.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
If your going to feel bad for someone
how about Scales. At least Gath got to play a couple games (and showed why he doesn’t belong on a major league roster)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah scales...great story with maybe a bad ending too
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
The Natural had a sad ending too.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yabbut he got to make more movies after that
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
not the movie...the book. The movie had a happy ending.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
which is one reason
I really don’t like the movie.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it's the fact that it's a manufactured rivalry.
Maybe it’s because it was forced on us by Allan Selig.
Maybe it’s because of their ugly-ass uniforms and the stupid mascot who slides down that ridiculous kiddie slide.
But I’ve really developed quite a hatred for the Brewers—visceral, seething, irrational hatred.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
Living in Wisconsin
I’ve always been kinda mey on the Brewers.
But for me hatred has to be built over years. Such as Cards and Mets. Or in football the Vikings.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I grew up in Iowa without a pro sports team
so I cheered for the Cubs (for the obvious connection) and also the Cardinals. I still don’t hate the Cards, mostly because they’re usually pretty good. But something about the Brewers…I don’t know. They’re like that kid on the playground who hits a lucky jumpshot in your face and then lets you hear about it every trip down the court, ad nauseum, until you just want to punch him in the neck.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
Ha!
That’s some pretty sweet angst you’ve got going there!
see thats how I feel about Mets fans
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how I feel about my ex-wife.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
For me, it's the Cardinals.
It may have something to do with a game (at Wrigley) which I went to in July 2006. After the game was over (Cubs actually won), Cardinals fans threw chewing gum at me.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals/Astros for me
I root for the Brewers when they aren’t playing the Cubs. I hope they get to face off in the playoffs one of these years. They did it wrong last year!
So...
it was manufactured…but it’s developed into a natural one.
I’d say that means it was sucessful
by chitownhawkeye on May 8, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a valid point
but I can’t bring myself to credit Bud for anything. I’m afraid something bad might happen to my soul.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
I can't totally hate the Brewers.
I remember them being my favorite AL team over the White Sox. They were my second favorite team! I really only started disliking them recently because they’ve been pretty good and actually giving us a run for the money. That mascot is pretty lame, but the sausages races are pretty awesome. Go Polish! Besides, my husband brews beer. How can I hate a team named for brewing? Well I guess I’ll find out tonight.
I dislike them
because they should be The Pilots. Well I don’t dislike them but i despise Selig for the thief he is.
Baseball is too much of a sport to be a business and too much of a business to be a sport.
William Wrigley Jr
by bubbamike the one and only on May 8, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
ARod has hit a 3-run homerun in his first Atbat this season.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
Good the chase to knock Bonds out continues.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
and we now know
that there was no “unofficial” injury / suspension.
The conspiracy theorists can file that one away.
Or is this just another conspiracy?
by chitownhawkeye on May 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but Arod clearly used steroids too
Look at his line this season so far
4.000 slugging
1.000 OBP
1.000 BA
5.000 OPS
He’s clearly using.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
they should make him pee right there in the dugout
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
he strikes me as someone who prolly would
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Just like Moises.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
just wave hello- no hand shakes
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
So it's ok to use steroids as long as you're not an asshole?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
haven't seen one from Twittermeyer yet.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's one I found - I'll leave it to you to figure out where I got it from
The Enemy
No Lee or Soto for the Cubs tonight
A. Soriano lf
R. Theriot ss
K. Fukudome cf
A. Ramirez 3b
M. Hoffpauir 1b
M. Bradley rf
M. Fontenot 2b
K. Hill c
R. Wells p
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
no Scales. :(
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe he'll get an opportunity to pinch hit tonight
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
or pitch
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
you stole that from Evil BCB! I hope they don't find out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope
he wiped it off first.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
twittermeyer
confirms. Bradley continues to hit sixth. I think that if you put in Lee for Hoff and Soto for Hill, that’s Lou’s lineup for a while.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I like that lineup
especially with Lee’s neck hurting. And while Geo needs at bats to warm back up, Hill is doing just fine.
by chitownhawkeye on May 8, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Twittermeyer says
still no decision on Bradley’s appeal.
What if it’s a hung jury?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
no comment
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Will you sing along if it is?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally OT
but how do people watch that show? I was subjected to it this week when I stayed by my sisters for a few days
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 8, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally usless entertainment. The most boing TV ever. Like watching flies f**k.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll bet there is one person who is still fighting to keep the suspension
While most people see that Milton was right this time.
Hey the Cubs are good again! This will be a good test of a sig jinx.
well game threads are too much drama for me
catch you all later
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I can imagine,
Especially after Rant Central last night.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That's my cue to go.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on May 8, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
me too...perhaps I'll be back for the last overflow thread and to post a milton pic (hopefully)
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 8, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You'll post the Milton pic,
I’ll post my waving “W” flag.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
starting to smell
like a locker room in here…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on May 8, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You're lucky
I’m stuck at work (I work evenings), and my Dish Network doesn’t get WGN. Few, if any, Cubs games for me this year. :(
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
My problem too
I rely on the game threads to keep me up to speed
by chitownhawkeye on May 8, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh. Working late
can’t listen.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
Nice!!!!
Hopefully, they keep it up!
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 8, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
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