A little less talk and a lot more action
by SoCal19 on Jun 10, 2009 11:34 AM CDT
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It was reported that Milton Bradley "talked" his way into the lineup yesterday against the Astros. Milton then puts up an 0-6 night with 3 strikeouts and 10 runners lob. Maybe, Milton should shut his mouth and let Lou do his job. He hasn't produced all year, yet he's lobbying for playing time while being hurt. We're in June and he's barely breaking .200 and is tied with Theriot for homeruns. Not what I was expecting out of our new $30 Mil outfielder. How long does Jim give him to get things going, before we ship him to an American League club where he can DH?
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Yawn
I’m so sick of this. If he doesn’t play, he’s criticized for being injury prone or not wanting it badly enough. If he tells Piniella he wants to get in the lineup, he’s criticized then too. If he speaks to the media about his feelins, he’s criticized for going out of house. If he privately goes to Piniella and it leaks anyway, he’s criticized for that too.
Give it a rest. He plays hard. Witness his diving catch in the 9th inning of a blowout last night. Lately he’s been playing a whole lot better. Blaming Milton for everything under the sun is getting more than a little tired at this point.
by Orval Overall on Jun 10, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 21 recs
rec'd
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 10, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
but we've only had 40-50 fanposts
critcizing mb for not being derosa.
if we can get it to 100, maybe he will magically become mark derosa.
(sarcasm)
We may set a rec record on this post.
18 so far.
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wish it could be darker green
19th rec
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I was going to rec it
but I realized that I’d already rec’d it.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
cannot sand bag and double rec
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Maybe Orval can repost and we can do it again.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
lol
good idear
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
That's the big problem
because of his reputation, earned or not, some people are going to jump on any thing he does or says and find something negative.
I really hoped people would give him the benefit of the doubt and let him make a clean start here.
Of course if he finally starts hitting like he’s capable, a lot of the knee jerk criticism will disappear.
by bluekoolaide on Jun 10, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
or will just wait
until he has one bad game, so they can crawl out of the woodwork again
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Ok so you're bashing the guy for wanting to get out there and play?
by xene on Jun 10, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
whichis the opposite
of how some believe him to not want to help the team and take games off
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
No one is going to take on that contract
when he’s constantly hurt….Jim Hendrys performance this offseason continues to dumbfound me.
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Yeah as someone who really likes Hendry..
…hindsight is showing that he really laid an egg.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
You're right, we should fire Hendry
and hire a GM with the ability to go back in time. Got any candidates in mind?
It's easy to say that now huh?
At the time, I thought the Bradley signing was for too much and for one year too long, but I thought he was going to be a good fit. The Miles signing however is a different story. I could not believe he did that.
To answer you question, I heard this guy is an up and coming GM.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm pretty sure that these moves were criticized at the time.
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How long does Jim give him to get things going, before we ship him to an American League club where he can DH?
At least the rest of the year.
This is ridiculous. The guy hadn’t seen live pitching in days. He obviously wants to contribute, and you conveniently left out the several excellent plays he made, including a diving catch late in the game.
If Milton Bradley is going to improve, he has to play. You don’t get better at baseball sitting on the frakking bench. We won 7-1, for pete’s sake. Who CARES if he went 0-6? I don’t. Because I know that he’ll build off yesterday and start hitting again.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, 0-6 is a good foundation to build on.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
That comment
is the intellectual equivalent of an 0-6 night.
by Orval Overall on Jun 10, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you have me confused with someone who gives a damn.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have thought
indifference would result in 15,000+ comments. But I guess if you’re saying its 15,000 vapid comments, then I stand corrected and won’t make the same mistake twice.
by Orval Overall on Jun 10, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
vapid comments rule
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
he made contact with the ball
more than once. He needs to be work on picking the ball up out of the pitcher’s hand. Gotta do that with live, in game pitching.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, he's gotta start somewhere...again.
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what I'd love for Milton Bradley to do
is figure out where that line is, where he’s doing everything he can but JUST under the point where he gets hurt. Maybe that’s only 90% of his total capable effort, but when he goes 91 or 92%, he pulls something. He has to figure out a way to be less injury-prone.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that'd be nice...
…but if he hasn’t figured that out by now, he probably won’t. That catch last night was fun to watch, but it also said a lot about his all-out effort on the field, which, apparently, his body can’t put up with.
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maybe it was
a carefully restrained dive.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh please
Now you’re advocating players play less than 100 percent?
What happened to NATIONAL LEAGUE TOTAL BASEBALL PLAYERS!!!!?
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
I want him
to play his best. That may mean pulling back so that he doesn’t injure himself. He’d still be worth more, and he’s still be playing to win.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
no
you said that Zambrano shouldn’t be doing things that ballplayers are supposed to do — hit, run, and catch.
I’m not suggesting that Bradley stop doing something. I’m suggesting that his lower body is so strong, his tendons and ligaments cannot keep up with him, and he needs to figure out what the line over which injuries aren’t bad-luck, but commonplace.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
And I said it was because
Zambrano can’t run from here to there without pulling something.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
which is not true.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
What I'd love for him to do...
is just go out there play. Work with the trainers to improve his conditioning. Talking his way into the lineup is OK but he has to play through pain.
Perhaps he’s thinking too muc. The late-great SWEETNESS used to say, “….if I think about getting injured, then I’ll get injured”. He played a vast majority of his career on turf with a crappy O-line, no real passing game and still dished it out.
If hockey players sat every time they had a boo boo, the roster would be half-filled with minor-leaguers. Kane played 50+ games on a bum ankle. Sharp, Keith & Toews all played many games each while hurt. If that were baseball, there’d be 100 add’l man-games lost, no 104-point regular season and conference finals.
I understand where you’re coming from but the player has to make the commitment in all aspects of his preparation for play and training or he’ll continue to be in-and-out of the lineup.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
I agree to a point on the play through pain comment
Yes, hockey players are mutants when it comes to playing through pain. A bum ankle in hockey IMO is easier to play with compared to baseball because your ankle is solidly anchored in your skate boot and in baseball, you have much different movements and pivots to make without the same amount of support. The way hockey skates are made, you can damn near skate without lacing them up there is so much support.
If you have a tweaked hammy or quad, playing hard may injure it further and potentially ruining your season. I had a tweaked groin once and I couldn’t push off with my left side at all, and just trying to walk was difficult.
I’m sure all the pressure on him is self induced. He is a hitter that falls out of bed hitting and he comes to the Cubs and he isn’t. If he could stay in the line up more than a few games at a time, I’m sure he will come around. Just like D Lee’s offensive issues that he had last year and early this year, you gotta love his glove out there.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
He saw live pitching the same time everyone else saw live pitching…SUNDAY.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
he pinch hit in one at bat.
it’s NOT THE SAME.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay...but he's gotten 7 PAs in our last 2 games.
That’s a lot of live pitching.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
how long
did it take DLee to get back into the swing of things?
It’s get there.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It took almost 2 months of UNINJURED playing time.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I've already agreed with you
that he needs to stay healthy.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
and he hasn't.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I know.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He has a proven track record of high OBP and BA
Tonight wasn’t his night but benching a guy who is capable of so much more isn’t the answer.
Moving him down in the lineup is.
I could care less if he hits now, as long as he...
A) Starts hitting in August and September and helps get us in the playoffs.
B) Gets hot in October and gets us past the 1st round.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 10, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
Wow I'm impressed.
You guys are awfully forgiving. I feel so alone. Was I the only one yelling “You &*#%!” at the TV last night every time he left men on base? I wish I could, but I just can’t warm up to the guy. I’m trying to like him, but I don’t find things like breaking the bat very endearing even if it does show passion. That catch did help, I admit.
Only we could bitch about something
After a 7-1 victory.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Jun 10, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Bingo.
All things considered, Milton “picked” the perfect night to come back and struggle at the plate. And he made at least a couple very nice catches in right field.
As Cubs fans, we’re just going to have to live with Milton’s injuries and seemingly perpetual comebacks. Who knows, maybe he’ll be able to stick around long enough this time to really make a difference.
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by daver on Jun 10, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bingo - rec'd
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
+1
And there it is, a symbol of a truly frantic, frustrated & neurotic fan base.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Jun 11, 2009 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have a tough time
bitching a guy out for wanting to get back out there and play. I’d be far more concerned if he just sat back and watched and waited for Lou to come to him. And while he did not hit, he did contribute in the field.
"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69
this is where it
is horrible that MLB rules will not allow a vet to be sent to AAA for not producing. A week or two at Iowa might be exactly what MB needs to get his timing down and put up some sickening numbers at the plate.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Everyone attacking the poster is missing his main criticism, which I believe is for manager Lou Piniella.
You don’t let players talk their way into the lineup, no matter what their salary is.
Good players...
…have been doing this with good managers for a long long time, and this is nothing new.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
And the poster wanted him shipped out too.
Players talk their way into alot of things. How many times will a manager visit a mound and the pitcher will make his case to stay in the game. Sometimes what the player says is important too.
I want Bradley to want to play. And guess what, he doesn’t want to struggle. He wants to get out there and do the job he was paid to do. That is admirable in my estimation.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Aw jeeze guys...he wants to play better! Well isn't that so heartwarming!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't you want a dinged up guy to want to play?
paging Mark Prior.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Wood and MB are a lot alike
both get hurt, but both leave it on the field.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I guess these guys
want him to sit until September and then magically he will get hot for the playoff run.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
There will be a time...
…Cub fans are very happy he is on the club. I get frustrated with his injury history (could care less about how he handles the media), but everyone knew this when he was signed.
This signing was a bit of a gamble, but if he can get on the field for an extended period of time (preferrably during the playoffs), this dude is going to produce.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I hope you're right.
We could use that production.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
If if if....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
all baseball
is if.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 10, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You said it. IF Gonzalez turns that DP against the Marlins.........
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Pujols is on an 0-14 streak
they should DFA him too
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Pujols has played more baseball in the past 3 years than Milton has in the past 5.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly has forgotten more about kicking ass...
…than Albert Pujols will ever know.
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Ted Lilly=Chuck Norris
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
Since no one else has done it yet
i guess I’ll have to. Enjoy.
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