Zambrano Pitches In His Favorite Road HR Park: Cubs vs. Astros, Wednesday 6/10, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 10, 2009 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintAfter Wrigley Field, where he's hit half (nine) of his 18 career homers, Minute Maid Park is Carlos Zambrano's favorite place to go deep. He's homered four times there in 12 career starts, including a two-run shot off his future teammate Wade Miller that tied this key game on July 25, 2003, a game the Cubs eventually won; and one on August 17, 2005, helping the Cubs to another win.
I'll settle for a well-pitched victory tonight, but you know Z will be aiming for the fences, too. He's got only five hits all told in 31 career AB in Houston -- four of them homers.
Speaking of which, here is tonight's lineup (via Twittermyer as always); in this lineup, Z should be hitting seventh:
Soriano, lf; Theriot, ss; Bradley, rf; Lee, 1b; Johnson, cf; Soto, c; Scales, 3b; Miles, 2b; Zambrano, p
Gordo also tweets that Fox will play every day -- somewhere -- at Iowa in order that he'll be ready to return to DH in the interleague games at AL parks beginning on June 23, and also, the Astros have switched starters for tomorrow's day game again. Instead of Mike Hampton, the Cubs will face Russ Ortiz.
Bruce Miles has some thoughts on Brett Jackson, the rest of the draft, and more on Jake Fox:
The Fox move makes sense for now. I speculated yesterday that the Cubs could do some roster shuffling in two weeks, when they play at Detroit and then come "home" to play the Sox at the Cell. At that point, they can, and probably should, bring Fox back and have him DH. The Cubs really didn’t miss Miles. Bobby Scales and Andres Blanco filled in capably, and that two-year deal the Cubs gave Miles after he was non-tendered by the Cardinals isn’t looking so hot.
A player sent down has to stay down for 10 days (barring injuries, which is what happened when Miles got hurt and Bobby Scales got a reprieve from an Iowa trip). The Cubs won't need a DH until June 23 at Detroit, so Fox could come back then.
And a-freakin-men on the Aaron Miles statement by Bruce Miles (no relation, right, Bruce?). That has to be one of the worst free agent signings -- ever.
I've posted a poll (which you can find either by clicking that link or on the right sidebar) where you can weigh in on the selection of Brett Jackson as the Cubs' #1 pick this year.
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Wandy Rodriguez is 4-4, 4.39 in 11 career starts vs. the Cubs, but he always seems to be the kind of guy who ties Cub hitters in knots. He got a no-decision on April 7 in a game the Cubs lost in extra innings. We all shake our heads at the demotion of Jake Fox, who might seem like the ideal guy to face the lefty Rodriguez -- but as a junkballer, he might tie Fox in knots. Jake will be back. In the meantime, Derrek Lee's the guy -- and he's hot right now -- who can pound Wandy; he's 12-for-24 (.500) lifetime against him with 3 doubles, 2 HR and 6 walks.
Z got the win on Opening Day in Houston this year, allowing only five hits in six innings on April 6. Apart from liking to hit in the Juice Box, he's 7-3, 3.42 lifetime there as a pitcher. He handles all the Astros pretty well except for Miguel Tejada (7-for-15, .467, a HR) and his lifelong nemesis, Carlos Lee (17-for-49, .347, 5 doubles, 4 HR). Stop those two, Z, and you'll win tonight.
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The money might not allow for it to be considered a truly awful contract
But giving the worst player in major league baseball (IMO) 5 million dollars is downright stupid.
Also Wandy has been awful his last three starts so hopefully we can continue the trend.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Riddle yourself this...
Would you rather be paying Alfonso Friggin Soriano $136 million over 8 years or Aaron Miles $5 million over 2 years. I know my answer. I hate Miles as much as anybody, but a little perspective goes a LONG way.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Has Aaron Miles won a single game for the Cubs yet?
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He has contributed to wins.
I recall a key walk by Miles before a home run. That was back in April and I’m fuzzy on the details of the game except that we won.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He had a couple big hits against the Cardinals...
…when Aramis had his walkoff this year. With that being said, I hated the Miles signing from day one.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I really really miss Aramis.
:-(
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
me too
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Miles is on a contract that pays 3.6% of what Soriano makes
Look, I can’t stand Miles either. But for crying out loud a dose of realism needs to be interjected when contract numbers are brought up on some of these guys. How can anybody say with a straight face they are upset over Miles and his contract when we stare at Soriano and his $136 million contract everyday.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
What's the point of bringing up this same old argument?
You always bring it up. It goes no where. Some people like the signing, others don’t. What more can be said that hasn’t been said already? Cue the homage to Kenny Williams…
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
after homage to Kenny WIlliams
Go pound sand :)
BLou what are you ever going to do if the Cubs win a WS?
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Sori makes $17,000,000 this year. Miles makes $2,200,000. I’d be willing to venture Sori contributes 7.7 times more than Miles. Your disdain is misplaced.
I don’t really get all the moaning about Sori’s contract anyways… at the time, that was market rate, if not a bit over (expected from a big market team like the cubs). That is what it takes to get his caliber of player. Sure, we’d all love if he played better. Him, and everyone else on the team. Hindsight is 20/20, and lamenting the contract of a player who contributes, who isn’t going anywhere, who isn’t damaging the team… its pointless.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
not too mention EVERYONE complained
that the Cubs never went out and signed the big name free agent. They did and this is what comes with it I guess.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I would think he is 7 times more valuable
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take my chances with Soriano
Soriano has been worth $36.5 million so far in his contract. So he might end up being worth it.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Hand meet face
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Do the Cubs make the playoffs either of the last two seasons without Soriano?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
We all know he is a Sori hater.. and always will be.
Let him be a Sori hater and move on with conversation
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Want to take a bet that Sori could win WS MVP
and people would still complain about his contract.
C’mon if someone offered to overpay to do my job… would I turn them down? No. Why blame him for what he makes… it’s not his fault.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
WHERE do I begin?!?
Have you even bothered to tune in the 2007 or 2008 post-season contests? Did you SEE Soriano in the playoffs? You mean to tell me we should all feel find and dandy paying a 30-something Alfonso Soriano THAT kind of money for EIGHT YEARS when he disappears for insanely long stretches at a time during the season?
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Yeah I saw him in the playoffs
mostly b/c of those games Soriano won to get us INTO the postseason.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
There wouldn't have been
a post-season for the Cubs in 2007 without Soriano’s September barrage.
Funny how you leave that info out.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
So if your boss offered to pay you an obscene amount of money and guarteed it for 8 years
You’d turn it down so that no one would complain you aren’t earning your money?
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
My ORIGINAL point has been lost. And that is that I don’t understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth over the Aaron Miles’ contract when we have a crapload of very large, back-loaded, downright ugly contracts on the books. To include Soriano’s contract that surely ranks as among the worst in baseball next to Barry Zito.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Aside from the fact
Soriano’s gotten us to the playoffs, won games, and made the all-star team… and Zito’s lost games and looked like garbage… You’re completely right!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
+1 Allie
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
BUT....
….i think the beef most people have is that no one was bidding on Miles except for us. You can’t say that about Soriano. So you’re comparing apples and oranges, therefore people DO have a legitiment beef with the Miles deal.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
The Miles deal, in hindsight, was terrible...
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 10, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The Miles signing was terrible even in FORESIGHT.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah
I don’t know anyone other than Hendry who thought that was a good idea.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
A small, scrappy, second-baseman!
Whats not to love!!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
LOL, you're probably right about that.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 10, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no argument on this
But PERSPECTIVE is needed when talking about a team with the third highest payroll in baseball and that is littered with all sorts of ugly, fat back-loaded contracts. $5 million spent on Aaron Miles is a piss in the bucket when it comes to Hendry’s payroll.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
You know, you should be a financial advisor. If you looked after
my money the way you do the Cubs, I’d be a very rich man right now.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 10, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
or living in a sand castle
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
+1
FAVORITE. COMMENT. EVER. TIM
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I missed this the first time around
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
ty, ty
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Huh?
The evidence suggests that no other team was willing to remotely meet the price Jim Hendry paid for Alfonso Soriano.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
But there were other teams bidding for him
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Please provide the evidence you mention.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all what evidence?
Second of all, there were TONS of other teams bidding for him. Hendry did what he needed to do to make a splash. I don’t fault that.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Actually, the Angels had put in a bid for Soriano.
Seven year deal. The Cubs had to extend to eight to get him.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'll let others chime in on this one
Show me where Soriano was considering offers between the Angels and Cubs. Show me also what the Angels were prepared to offer.
But hey, I’m not going to argue with the masses here. You boys and girls think Alfonso Soriano and his contract are A-OK.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Yes we do!
Thanks!
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe I speak for a large potion of
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
BCB when I say....shut the hell up already.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Al makes things up pretty regularly
so I won’t trust him as source.
giggling
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Al
I just couldnt resist. :)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he'd argue that
the grass was blue and the sky was green just to be argumentative.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's start here...
http://baseball-fever.com/archive/index.php/t-53746.html
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Or here
http://mvn.com/bigabaseball/2006/11/usa-today-writers-predict-soriano-to-angels.html
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
or here
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
heres something
Link:
the other teams who had offers out to the the 30-year-old outfielder, particularly the Phillies, Astros and Angels, will now have to look elsewhere to find the offense they are seeking.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Here's one.
The Philadelphia Phillies appear to be the most aggressive organization pursuing Soriano. The Philadelphia Daily News reported on Monday that an offer, believed to be for five years and $73 million, has been made.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I'm guessing the next thing we'll hear from BLou is..
::: crickets :::
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
He's busy pounding sand.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
this is fun
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jon_heyman/07/31/monday.trades/index.html
reminds me of giving facts to Ol Pete and then watching him turn and run
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
correction
meant this link
http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061022&content_id=1720960&vkey=news_ana&fext=.jsp&c_id=ana
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
BOOM...Roasted!
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 10, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He already posted his exit strategy
“But hey, I’m not going to argue with the masses here. You boys and girls think Alfonso Soriano and his contract are A-OK.”
I think I’m just going to start posting contentious statements, and finish by giving myself an out so I don’t have to argue against logic. Wait, no I’m not, one person doing that is enough.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I fault myself and everyone else for responding...
we should know better.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I tried to warn you :)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cardinals were trying to resign Miles.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
I have read a couple different times that they weren’t. Got a link so I could read that.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
They non-tendered him, just like the year before.
The reason they non-tendered him was so they weren’t required to give him a 15% pay raise. They wanted to resign him though, at least that was my understanding at the time.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
see I wasn't aware of that
I thought they just non-tendered him and then the Cubs offered him a contract when no one else did.
Although I could have read it wrong
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
b/c it's that actually the case can't we just give him back LOL
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No they were not
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
From your keyboard....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if you're going by the playoffs
Aramis Ramirez has pretty much vaporized when the calendar flips to October, too. Do you regret his contract?
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
Miles has been worth -2.2 million this season
Hopefully the Cubs get the check.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Thank goodness for baseball on WGN
I could do with a repeat of yesterday.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
+1000000
Those of us who refuse to pay for cable agree with you times one million.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
So Lou's reaction to Milton's 0-6 game last night is to bat him 3rd...
perfectly logical.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
Don't you know by now
that “logic” and “Lou’s lineup” rarely every go together?
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
not to mention giving Fonty the day off
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
there is almost 0% chance of Fontenot getting a hit off Wandy
lefty throwing off speed stuff
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Mea culpa
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou playing poker would be the scariest thing
I don’t know if I could ever get a read off of him. He’d put me all in holding 2-7 off suit, and would somehow flop a boat.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, that's where Milton is batting today.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
You know the post-steroid less power era has officially begun in baseball when Wandy Friggin Rodriquez has a 2.79 ERA
Crikey.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Wandy was listed as a canidate
to have a break-out season in some pre-season blog/articles/radio shows/podcasts I read/listened to before the season began.
His stats had steadily improved from year to year and the break-out season (so far) wasn’t totally unexpected.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: I was having a beer at the South Loop Bar Louie last night...
…and in walked Derrick Rose with three other people, no big entourage. He was at the table next to use, but only drinking some Fiji. He was watching the Magic/Lakers game, but didn’t seem overly interested. Fortunately while I was there, everyone left the guy alone.
That’s all, thought some of you might find it interesting.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm pretty sure there were some cubs...
… at an event this afternoon at the school across the street from my office at Wells and Goethe. Couldn’t spy any (no window at my desk) but the “DJ” was making lots of announcements and encouraging everyone to cheer for their cubs.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Miles right into the starting line up
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
It doesn't get more prodigious than Soto, Scales and Miles hitting back to back to back, now does it
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Thats enough to put fear into any pitcher...
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
even Lilly would be worried
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Not a chance...
The Tedinator is afraid of nothing…
- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.
From Twitter:
@cst_cubs Fox plan is to let him play daily again at AAA and make him eligible to return for interleague road games in 11-12 days.
Nothing new from above, but good to see this confirmed.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
Lineup.
The only thing I like about this lineup is DLee in the 4th spot. He seems to hit really well there.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 10, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
In case you were wondering...
… why the stat line above shows Z with 14 games but 9 games started… the additional five games are his pinch-hitting appearances.
While this is correct, it looks weird connected with a pitching line. I’ll see if I can get the SBN people to fix this.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Five bucks says Milton tweaks his thingamajig and spends another 10 days glued to the bench and not going on the DL
It’s been like three straight days where he has sorta been in the lineup. That streak is tempting fate.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
What charity will you be making your contribution to?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you ever think happy thoughts?
I wish i could come give you a hug. Seriously.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He's probably spit on you.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 10, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am still wondeng if he tells people in his real life to go pound sand
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm still unclear as to what that even MEANS...
… oh, wow… google!
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/go-pound-sand.html
I guess i can’t say he never taught me anything…
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Completely OT: But, Is there a computer nerd here?
I need someone to explain the difference between Core 2 duo and Duel Core chipsets to me… and everything I google makes zero sense…
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Are you going to be running photoshop, video editing software, and intense video games on it?
If the answer is no….you shouldn’t really care.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The answer is yes
Otherwise I wouldn’t care.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Ok
Core 2 Duo is going to be the best from you if budget is a concern. That, or a AMD Phenom II X3 720 tri-core processor. AMD will be even more budget friendly if you ever want to use Window 7’s virtualization mode, because the cheaper Core 2 Duo’s don’t support the XP virtualization. If you don’t care about that, Core 2 Duo is the way to go…I’ll post more too.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
AMD X2 Dual Cores shouldn't be an option
Nor should an Intel dual core. Dual core and Core 2 Duo aren’t necessarily the same. The main difference lies in the Front Side Bus and L2 cache. To make it simple, Core 2 Duo chips run a faster FSB and more L2 cache. What this means for you is that video encodes, using filters, etc. takes less time to do than it would with a dual core. Dual Core chips are going by the wayside, and eventually, so will Core 2 Duo chips, but that’s the nature of the beast.
If you going to buy a computer already made, if I were you, and if budget weren’t an issue, aim for Intel quad core computers or AMD Phenom II X4 quad core computers. If budget is an issue, Core 2 Quad is probably the way to go.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I am assuming she is looking into a laptop
Since the majority of people buying computers these days are.
If that’s the case, its probably best to stick with the dual-core processors, unless you want to break the bank.
Allie?
Do they build laptops using the E8400?
If they do, that’s probably the best option as far as price and performance in a laptop goes.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm looking at a laptop
The HP i’m looking at has AMD Dual-Core.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Can you post a link for what you are looking at?
I bet I could probably for something better for cheaper.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I'm still in the "look for a baseline" price mode
I haven’t finalized my budget yet (other than I know its going to be cheap, lol)… I’m just trying to figure out what I want/need.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
The one madcow posted is really good.
Still looking for others.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Only thing is
that deal will probably only last for a day or so, maybe more. You have to be able to pull the trigger quickly when it comes to good internet deals – if it’s truly a good deal, enough people will buy it and it will go out of stock.
On the plus side, wait a day and you’ll probably run across another deal that has you thinking about pulling the trigger.
Its a damn good deal
but I want a bigger screen. :-P
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
woah
you’re good at this!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
My job has me waiting for scripts to complete often
the plus side is that I’m generally very in tune with what’s going on in my regular sites.
Oh look, one got done. Back to work (for a few).
This is a good build too
The Intel graphics are kinda poopy, but that’s not going to matter for what she’ll be doing.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Graeme got a 15 inch monitor & loves it
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything bigger than 15" is almost too big
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow...
cough
I meant…Well, what I was trying to say was…Yeah…
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought size didnt matter
:=)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
depends on what you are using the monitor for also
He doesn’t have a tv. So it’s nice to have a monitor that big to watch things online.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
For a laptop
that could be hauled around, that’s probably the best size. The 17" screens on laptops might as well make the thing a desktop system because the laptop ends up being so heavy at that point.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
he has a travel laptop
so the one with the 15 inch screen doesn’t get hauled around.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're still figuring out a budget
What I would suggest is to work on that, and keep going to pricewatch, gotapex, and slickdeals. If you have questions on any build, feel free to email me (craighudak at gmail dot com), or I’m sure madcow could help too.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Without doing a ton of research
Slickdeals.net is my friend. Lenovo’s are built like a tank (although not very pretty usually).
Slickdeals is great
GotApex is good too.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
also pricewatch.com
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI
Refurbs are not bad to look at
in Texas, state law is taht if the box was shipped, and returned, even if it was never opened, it has to be marked as Refurb.
Dell, HP, Compaq are all based in Texas FYI
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I'll keep that in mind
thanks tim!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
So are they the same thing?
Or is one better/newer?
I’m computer shopping (my current HP is nearly 8 years old and starting to chug a bit… well a lot.)
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
More info
In the past few years Intel (and AMD) have started creating chips that actually have 2 or more processors on it together. The advantage this gives you is that certain software can take advantage of using more than one at a time, and as a result, these programs will run faster. SWLs list of software in particular will find a 2, 3, or 4 core processor useful. Additionally, systems with multiple processors will often be more responsive (the computer wont lock up or studder) when doing difficult work.
Dual core means that there are 2 of these processors on the same chip. Quad core means 4, and so on. Higher is generally better, but you’ll usually pay for more. 2-cores is probably the best combination of price/performance for what you’re looking for.
Core 2 Duo is Intel’s line of dual-core processors. They are generally quite fast, and offer an incredible amount of power for a low price compared to what you were able to buy in the past. AMD also makes chips that have multiple cores, which are generally not quite as fast but often good enough.
Dual-core can mean a lot of different processors (including the Core 2 Duo), so it’s not the same thing exactly. There are definitely worse dual-core processors you can buy (Pentium Dual Core comes to mind).
Does that help at all? What else might you want to know?
That is so helpful
Thank you.
Which is more important for performance? Going for a bigger cache or higher RPM?
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Depends on the task
For most people I would say the higher RPM hard drive would give you a more noticeable speed bump. For people who are involved heavily in photo and video editing, the bigger cache would help with those tasks.
Beware of higher RPM hard drives...
… if you’ll be using your laptop on your lap. Those 7200 rpm drives create HEAT.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i've heard that
but it’s mostly going to be a desktop replacement… and i’ve got a cooling mat from my old laptop that’ll do in a pinch.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
this is why
when I shop for a PC, I have a friend tell me which to buy. I know basics about computers, but they are Engineers with 20+ years at AMD, and know a little more than i do lol
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
We're good to have around
I always suspect when my friends invite me over for a beer . . . not long before the "can you take a look at my computer . . . " comes out.
i am not that friend
I see him more often for Bears, Cubs, hawks, and other sports evernt. He is originally from Rockford and we met watching the Bears at a local bar
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I love that stuff
Been building my own computers for about 10 or 11 years now. In the process of building a new one now.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I always find
that getting a new computer is suddenly not very fun for me after I’m done building it (and getting it to run properly). 75% of the fun is picking out the parts and waiting for them to arrive.
Definitely
I think at least a few times a week I’m on NewEgg putting systems together, trying to figure out the best configuration.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
thats where my boyfriend got his travel laptop from
New egg. He got a super deal.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
They're the best for everything
The only thing better is when Amazon does their golden deals or whatever they are, where at intervals through the day they have ridiculous deals on all sorts of items.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention chicks dig not having to pay for computer repairs :)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 10, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheaper and better
You know what parts are going into the system, they’re going to be cheaper than if you would buy one from BestBuy or something, and the parts will be of better quality.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree on the better
Since you’re not shopping for bottom of the barrel parts.
But I disagree with cheaper, at least over the past few years. And you have to consider that your labor is free for it to even be close.
I should clarify
It’s possible to build it cheaper if you are collecting the parts over the course of months, following the deal websites and whatnot. But that takes time (and there’s often the chance something better will come out in the meantime).
And if you’re paying for a copy of Windows, you’re going to have to be an amazing shopper to compensate for that.
Windows 7 is free right now
There’s also Ubuntu or other variations of Linux.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Usually not, if you're paying for the operating system
But it’s fun to build it exactly to your specs, rather than whatever Dell has decided to put in the system.
If your time is worth anything to you and you don’t find the prospect of learning about computer parts fun, then its probably best to let a company do it for you.
Yeah
I enjoyed putting together my current one, but as someone who isn’t particularly computer or electronically inclined, figuring out what I wanted and making it go was frustrating at the time. I don’t know if I’ll do it again.
It’s nice feeling like I could do it again if needed though.
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 10, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I put my first system together with the help of a friend
2 years later I tried it by myself and I felt like I was disarming a warhead. When my system POSTed though, that was all I needed, and I’ve had enough confidence since then to keep building systems for myself and others.
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The yearly trip home for christmas is a beast...
… i’ve got a year’s worth of spyware and whateve else to fix on 4 computers.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 10, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It is my one day this week I am home
and a Cubs game is on TV down here. Hopefully it isn’t as disastrous as last week.
Kick some ass tonight, Big Z
meanwhile, I have to study for a Latin Final and Pre Calculus Final in the same day. Hurray!
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
yuck
latin.
i failed that class hard. my first D. Ever.
Good luck, Chan.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
haha thank you thank you
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
rasmus a 3 run jack
stl 3 marlins 0 in the first
Damn.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 10, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
We still can root for the Rockies. Keep up the streak guys!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Speaking of Miles and useless infielders...
What happens to Freel when he comes off the DL? DFA?
Someday we'll go all the way...
The Aaron Miles signing was pretty bad.
But one of the worst free agent signings ever? 2 years for 4 million? That’s really not terrible. How about Andruw Jones for 2 years, $36.2 million? Juan Pierre for 5 years, $44 million? Darren Dreifort for 5 years, $55 million? Barry Zito for 7 years, $126 million? Those are some of the worst free agent signings ever because they involve incredibly large amounts of money for players who haven’t performed to the value of their contract. $4 million may be too much for Aaron Miles, but it’s certainly not the WORST. SIGNING. EVER.
"Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them, well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
I don't think anyone was saying worst signing ever.
Just a really really dumb one…
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
BLou was saying that Sori's
was the 2nd worst signing ever. Everyone agrees Miles was bad, but don’t think anyone made a worst about Miles.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Yes, just trying to illuminate Keith.
misfired on the reply.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I'm watching Wang melt down against the Sox
He’s really fallen apart fast. Plus: Suttcliff!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
I have a man crush on Sutty.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I think you speak for 99% of BCB when you say that lol.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 10, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
yay! the game is on WGN
I could actually stay at home and watch it instead of spending all my money at the bar.
Big Z needs to keep the mindset he had last start, he had his “A” stuff and hes going to need to do it again with the lineup we have set. Aaron Miles is no good. Big Z should be hitting 7-8, oh well.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 10, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
Cubs game or study for two finals tomorrow........
bloggers?
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
Study, young one.
Cubs will be there tomorrow. :-)
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
can you do both
translate the game into latin and use Cal to explain the game stats
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Get faced and watch the game
Fail your final, learn from your mistakes, and then be a better person. :)
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 10, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I really thought Wandy was better against us than the numbers in the post
He always seems to throw a gem against us. Hopefully his cold streak will continue tonight.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Alright
I’m off to rustle up some dinner and watch the game.
I may come back for the game threads at some point. Thanks again, SWL, Craig & madcow!! You’re awesome!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
take it easy
wait, I should be the one off too! i’m out as well
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
Wow Pujols just got his 8th SB this year.
I know it’s hard to stop him at the dish, but c’mon can we stop him from stealing?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
guess we could put up security cameras and add extra police officers
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
lol, he's the winona ryder of baseball.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Z and Houston
A lesser talked about major turning point in 03 was Zambrano’s 2 run homer in the 7th with the Cubs down 3-1 in Houston.
Yes I write fluffy fanfiction. I said it. If you want to read some email me for where it is.
No first-pitch thread?
n/t
Pumping sunshine for the Cubs since 1968 (yeah, that's right I was a Cubs fan in the womb!)
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 10, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
First pitch thread: Soriano is up first. Soriano K's.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Gameday
shows strike 3 as too high… but was too close to take.. :(
Pumping sunshine for the Cubs since 1968 (yeah, that's right I was a Cubs fan in the womb!)
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 10, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Good evening all...
GO CUBS GO
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 10, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
*grumble* *mutter* Stupid lefty junkballers *grumble*
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I LOL'd Al,
when I saw your statement about Miles being the worst free agent signing ever.
As I was watching the game…and right when I fired up the CPU, I said to myself ‘Aaron Miles might be the worst FA signing ever’.
Then I read your post and about cracked a rib!
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
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