OT Peavy out for at least a month with injury

by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Jun 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT Comment 49 comments

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090612&content_id=5292238&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Now maybe just maybe we can put an end to this peavy talk. Would Jim Hendry really be stupid enough to trade for an injured guy, lets hope not. I don't like to see anyone get hurt, but maybe this will begin the downfall of San Diego and a fire sale will ensue. Kouz might be a nice addition until A-Ram gets back.

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Yes Kouz would be nice

but only until A-Ram is back and then what do you do with him. There’s no other place Kouz could get into the lineup and shouldn’t rot on the bench

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 12, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I suspect....

… the Cubs could ship Kouzmanoff to another team once A-Ram comes back.

And maybe this WILL stop all the Peavy talk.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 12, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes but only because you CAN NOT trade

a player on the DL. Otherwise some idiot would think it would be time to get him at a bargain price.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 12, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we traded for freel when he was dled.

by Glacier on Jun 12, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I don't think that's correct.

The trade was not finalized till he was activated.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 12, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought we were the ones that activated him right before that first game we had him. I might be wrong.

by Glacier on Jun 12, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he was activated

and started complaining about not being a starter anymore. Then he was traded.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i thought he was complaining basically all year about that.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/transactions.jsp?c_id=chc#month=5&year=2009&team_id=112

you are correct though we were NOT the ones who activated him. I really thought we were.

by Glacier on Jun 12, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually misread that at first

I thought you said we traded for Freel after he DIED. Pretty easy to make that mistake though.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i actually thought that to when i re read my post

I had to look closer at the screen to make sure. probably should capitalize more…..

by Glacier on Jun 12, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL - I did the exact the same thing.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 13, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait...he's not dead?

Huh. I hadn’t noticed.

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by Goodie1969 on Jun 13, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe you can trade a player on the DL

However, you need to get approval from the commissioner’s office.

by burncruisin on Jun 13, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And start the Brian Roberts talk!

by CaliCub on Jun 12, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why ship Kouz off, though?

Even after Aramis gets back, this team still needs a backup 3B. It’s doubtful Aramis will be at full strength and there’s always, like, next season. Kouz is a guy with some pop (RHH off the bench) and he has above league average UZR numbers at third base (2.0/0.9 in 3,000+ innings). His is still the best name I’ve heard yet for solving the Cubs’ most glaring depth problem.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 13, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Wow Padres must be pissed

Big salary and he can’t even play or be traded.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 12, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

When will people realize that we don't need frigging pitchers?

We need big hitters. Anybody want someone that hits 40 homers and 100 rbis every year? Oh wait, we signed the guy hitting .200.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 12, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd.

And just to remind everyone again, I was in favor of signing that guy — Adam Dunn.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 12, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

which is as relevant

as wishing for DeRosa again.

We have the team we have. Milton Bradley is NOT going to be traded and we know it.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His contract virtually guarantees that my friend.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 12, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's a pretty good contract

for someone of his skill level, and I’m pretty sure we all know that. No one expected this year to proceed the way it has, and Milton Bradley is probably the most surprised.

If he doesn’t produce, then we have him next year, and then he’s gone — right when Lee’s contract is up, one before Dome’s is up and a few years before Soriano’s is up. THAT’s when we rebuild, should we decide we need to.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 12, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

+1

Recommended. I agree. It is still to early to talk about dumping and rebuilding. Another thread talked about dumping and rebuilding to be competitive next year. That is NOT how it works. If you pull the plug, and go into rebuilding mode, that means longer term — I think three years or more.

by vonde6 on Jun 12, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why are we talking rebuilding

When just last year.. we had the best team in the NL.. I understand we didnt go anywhere in the playoffs.. but the fact that we changed the team in the first place is why we are in trouble right now

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by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 12, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really do not think we will need to. Well hopefully not. If things go to plan to we should/could have an offensive core of Jackson, Vitters, Soriano, Soto, Ramirez. With potentially Z, Marmol, Cashner, Samardzija, Marmol to some extent. obviously some of this can change and this is predicting something years in advance which is always hard to do. Also, knowing how Cubs development has gone the last decade I’d figure that very possibly one or more can crash and not amount to anything. However, with that core, and being a big market team, we should be able to keep a competitive team with both young talent and some free agents as well.

by Glacier on Jun 12, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not convinced that Samardzija is going to be a big-name pitcher

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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 12, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

30 more games played and 2011 vests

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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 12, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right.

This is the problem — he doesn’t really have to “produce”, all he has to do is stay healthy for one month out of the three and a half remaining and get on the field, and then we are stuck with him for TWO more years.

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by Al on Jun 13, 2009 4:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

contracts should be based on results, not skills

hes results didnt warrant a 3 year deal, let alone for 10M per. They completely ignored all the facts in this signing regarding his health and DHness

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 13, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless I'm reading this wrong, I do not believe you are correct, drew.

His contract clearly states that if he plays 75 games in 2009, 2011 vests and we are signed on to Bradley.

# 2 years/$20M (2009-10), plus 2011 option

    * signed by Chicago Cubs as a free agent 1/6/09
    * $4M signing bonus
    * 09:$5M, 10:$9M, 11:$12M option
    * 2011 may become $12M club option with $2M buyout based on Bradley’s health
    * 2011 option vests with 75 games played in 2009

He’s already at 45 games. This is why I’m completely against Lou playing Milton for a PH here, a PH there, and when Bradley begs and pleads with Lou to let him play, then he goes 0-6. Not only does it hurt the team to play, it’s in his best interest to do so. Bradley needs to go on the DL immediately when he is injured. It’s a waste of a position and will be a waste of millions of dollars in the future.

Dan

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2009 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 14, 2009 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too, Al

Could’ve had him for the same price (he got 2/20 right?) and you know he would play at least 150 games.

by burncruisin on Jun 13, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If hes stupid enough to sign Aaron Miles and give a DH 30M to play the outfield

I wouldnt put it past him

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 12, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Serves the Padres right...

Everyone screamed to trade the guy before a situation like this developed. Now they can eat that salary for the rest of the season. Hell, and that’s the best case scenario.

by Damen Jackson on Jun 12, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Peavy or Wells

Well, Peavy of course. But, you can’t be disappointed with what we’ve gotten from Wells at a tiny fraction of the cost. As many have said: Starting pitching is not this teams problem.

by Nibbles on Jun 12, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think there is a lesson there

somewhere

by chitownhawkeye on Jun 12, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WHO CARES !

Can this Jake Peavy thing be given it’s proper burial once and for all?

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 12, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well,perhaps the price would be cheaper now

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 12, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm surprised

This sort of injury is supposed to happen to him AFTER he gets traded to the Cubs!!

by ak123 on Jun 13, 2009 1:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well in his defense

Its not the arm injury we all wouldve imagined

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 13, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the answer to the question.

Would Jim Hendry really be stupid enough to trade for an injured guy

The answer is yes, absolutely he is stupid enough.

by desmoCubbie on Jun 13, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No! No! No! You're all overloooking a perfect opportunity!

TRADE FOR PEAVY NOW!!!

His trade value is next to nothing! We can nurse him back to health! We can rebuild him – faster, stronger! We can probably get him for, like, Neal Cotts and Jason DuBois!! Get ‘er done, Jimbo! And talk Towers into throwing in Kouzmanoff – and Hank White! We’ll dominate the division! We’ll dominate the world!

I’m mad, I tell you! Quite mad!!!

Hahahahahahahaha!!! (<—High-pitched cackling.)

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 13, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You're right. You're mad. This season has finally gotten to you. (Cue the white truck.) Now

daver, we want you to sit and play nicely until you friends in the ice cream wagon suits get here.

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 13, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jake Peavy...my precious...

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 13, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

No Josh Vitters for you now Pads!!!

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 13, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey

No Padres! I get Josh Vitters! You get to go play with Neal Cotts and Bobby Scales!

Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!

by Cub Style on Jun 13, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Towers

Now do you understand that you should’ve traded him before the season started? You just lost a ton of leverage and value on Peavy.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 13, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs