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Why Gerald Perry Must be the Fall Guy

Several years ago I had the opportunity to talk to Jeff Pentland, the former Cubs hitting coach. He had been lauded for helping to change some of the Cubs approaches at the plate, getting them to work the count more, etc. Yet just a short time later he was gone, fired. I asked him what the difference had been, and he simply said that the players just stopped listening. He said that they still tried the approaches he recommended, but they just didn't execute as well.

The Cubs can't fire 25 players, but they still need a shock to the system. They need a new approach at the plate, a refined focus and a different attitude. And, unfortunately, the best shock to the system is to let Gerald Perry go and bring Von Joshua up. Joshua already has a working relationship with several players - like Theriot - which leads me to believe that Perry has lost some credibility with the team. At a minimum, the guilt felt by the players at the demise of a trusted coach might be enough to shake things up.

Just my two cents.

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its all gotta fall on Hendry

He’s the mastermind

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 13, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Eventually...

…an organization’s blemishes come to the surface and the multitude of FA singings, etc. won’t cover them forever.

The GM is always the one ultimately responsible for a team’s success or lack there of, especially over an extended period of time.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 14, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said this about a month ago

And got blasted on here for the comments.

Just be forewarned that a month ago 95% of the people on here disagreed with Perry being the fall guy.

I on the other hands agree with you.

by ak123 on Jun 13, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

count me in on the agreement.

maybe it isnt all his fault but this offense is a damn joke and someone needs to go. it should b hendry but sadly it wont.

by Glacier on Jun 13, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

someone has to be held accountable

and since Lou has probably bought himself enough good will to survive one season like this, it needs to be Perry. Having said that, this all falls on the players.

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Jun 13, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Have lou and brenly switch places...

Or insert trammel as head cheese now…

I used to support lou very strongly, but can’t anymore…making too many weird moves.

I still like lou, just think it may be time to cut him loose.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." --Alvin Dark

by preachermancubsfan on Jun 13, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

This

I’d like Brenly as the main man.

by cmf0203 on Jun 13, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it's firing someone just to fire someone...

… what’s the point?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 13, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

FAIL

We’re going to pin this on Gerald Perry? Really? What’s that going to solve?

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 13, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Yet just a short time later he was gone, fired. I asked him what the difference had been, and he simply said that the players just stopped listening. He said that they still tried the approaches he recommended, but they just didn’t execute as well.

These two statements are contradictory. Either they stopped listening, or they still listened, but couldn’t execute.

I don’t think firing anyone is the solution. Santo said today that Dome looked jittery at the plate. I’d like to see Dome’s pitching coach come back NOW, not in July. I don’t know how the management roster comes up, but couldn’t we bring Von Joshua up anyway? Let him work WITH Perry, not in place of him. Get Riot back to poking singles through the right side of the field. Lee seems to have figured things out, and Bradley seems to be getting close. At some point, Soriano will start hitting again; he can’t slump forever.

If Lee and Riot and Sori and Bradley and Dome can start hitting, we can live with Soto’s on-again-off-again production, and the black-hole that is second base.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 13, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

well,

they could have been trying to execute what he was saying before, and would not listen to what new recommendations he was trying to make. It’s all about working, then adjusting, then tweaking, then readjusting when it comes to coaching.

by tootle on Jun 15, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

well,

they could have been trying to execute what he was saying before, and would not listen to what new recommendations he was trying to make. It’s all about working, then adjusting, then tweaking, then readjusting when it comes to coaching.

by tootle on Jun 15, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care if there are some firings.

It is part of the game. As the old saying goes, you’re hired to be fired. I work in a place were firings are a way of life. Don’t produce, you go. Sometimes even when you do produce you go. Baseball is the same way. It keeps people on edge. This team seems fat and lethargic. I’d like to see some players fired, too. Soto has options, send a message to the team. Knock a regular back down an peg and maybe the others wake up a little. Hard to do in baseball with all the guaranteed money, but a little shame might help if a coach or two gets fired. Miles and to some extent Fontenot could go too. Shoot Heileman and Patton out of a cannon to clear up some space in the pen.
Part of this is my annual complaint. A team should have one legitimate fight on it’s hands in the infield, outfield, and pitching staff every spring. It provideds incentive, and rewards hunger. Hendry doesn’t do that. He likes his roster to be relatively set by the time camp begins.

by Nibbles on Jun 13, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

“Don’t produce, you go.”

It is a fact of baseball. The GM will not get fired now. Especially, under the ownership circumstances.

In situations such of this, all of the players can’t get fired, or traded. So, management has to try to “do something.” Therefore – it would not surprise me that Perry goes.

They have stopped listening. In spite of DeRosa getting traded (on HENDRY), the principles they embraced last year in their approach to pitch selection, and patience, are gone. Soto and Fontenot both swung at bad (i.e. out of the zone) 3-1 pitches. Both feeble outs in key spots. These things seemed to work in our favor earlier in the season, and most of last year. And, in Bradley’s case, he does not know whether to take or swing right now. It is just a mess…

by The E-Man on Jun 13, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

MESS IS THE KEY WORD.....

The people that created this team should go but won’t . If their was solid ownership heads would roll, lockers would be cleaned out ect…..I really don’t expect things to change for the better . Why ? Because they will never admit any mistakes and their plan of action will be LET’S WAIT AND SEE." Learership is lacking on the field and in the dugout . ( Lou looks like he is somewhere else ) ….

by cubs north on Jun 13, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your story...

about Pentland reminded me of Larry Bird’s philosophy when he briefly and successfully coached the Indiana Pacers. He quit after three years (a predetermined timeframe) because he thought that a coach could only command attention and absolute respect for a 3 year window.

There are exceptions of course, but I do feel like most coaches will eventually hit a wall with players where they cannot connect like they once did. Sometimes a move must be made.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Jun 14, 2009 1:15 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's only true when the team sucks. Teams that win consistently tend to hang on to their

coaches, especially if they have a good relationship with the manager. See Duncan, Mazzone, et. al.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 14, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Done.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jun 14, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Got your wish

And for the record I was the first one on here a month ago saying he should be replaced.

by ak123 on Jun 14, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Congratulations

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Jun 14, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome, Mayor of...

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jun 14, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why thank you

I’m going to print that out and hang it on my wall.

In all seriousness, I don’t like that I predicted someone would lose his job. But on the other hand I’m never right about my predictions on here so I had to say something.

by ak123 on Jun 14, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, if ya nailed it, flaunt it.

I predicted Jason Waddell would be in the bullpen coming out of spring training. I was…so close.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jun 14, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I predict Jessica Alba will be at my back door ringing the bell, wearing nothing but a smile

In 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1. . .

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 14, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 14, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

So who showed

Jessica Tandy?

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Jun 15, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ew

Ever see “Yes, Man”?

Your comment reminded me of a very unpleasant scene in that movie….

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should be, or would be?

I don’t think anyone blasted a “would be”. As far as should be, yeah, I’m still in disagreement. We’ll see what happens.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 14, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is just part of the gig in most professional sports for coaches, assistants, managers...

…There’s an understood approach/pecking order and if something has to be done, so long as manager and GM are not at a point where differences cannot be resolved there is very little chance that the guys that get paid the most and who are given the most responsibility take the initial hits.

Communication and technique/approach seem to be the most important attributes for assistants and they seem to fall in nicely with Al’s post today regarding stats v. intangibles in terms of evaluating the coach.

I don’t know anything about Perry but just assume the best about hm. Since the players were performing so poorly in his area the GM felt it was time for someone to be held responsible to a degree and as a way to convey to the players that he expects more.

by DudeVf11 on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

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