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"But one thing about Wrigley Field, I puke every time I go there," Guillen said Sunday morning. "That’s just to be honest. And if Cub fans don’t like the way I talk about Wrigley Field, it’s just Wrigley Field. I don’t say anything about the fans or anything now. But Wrigley Field, they got to respect my opinion. That’s the way I feel."

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Ozzie makes me Puke

That’s just the way I feel

by Chodes on Jun 14, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Rec’d.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 15, 2009 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

… he’s trying to get a rise from Cubbie fans. Worked.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which only benefits himself in the sense that he panders

Yes, it got a rise out of some Cubs fans. Not this one, however. Although, I suppose you’ll say that it did get a rise out of me and that I think Michael Barrett’s a hero.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

where?

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 15, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, here.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll probably get a rise from some...

…but many of us feel it’s boring and repetitive. I do appreciate the Sox taking two of three from the Brewers, though. That Buerhle home run yesterday was hilarious. Hawk sounded like he needed a cigarette afterward.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 15, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if that was Santo slobbering...

… many here would praise his emotional outburst.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you're basing this on . . . ?

Oh, that’s right. You don’t need evidence to state what a fan base is thinking – but others need evidence to know what Escobar is thinking.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dumb dirty assertion.

I said “MANY would praise his emotional outburst.” I did not say all or every or most. BTW do you deny my assertion?

Regarding the Escobar…the person asserted that “plenty” of players think that AJ is dirty. His main proof was that “Escobar throws at AJ every chance he gets.” First off the poster later admitted that he had no idea if his assertion was even true that Escobar throws at AJ. Second and the main point, even IF Escobar throws at AJ that is not proof of his assertion. Maybe Escobar throws at AJ because they got in a bar fight, and Escobar lost. Maybe Escobar throws at AJ because … well who knows but there is ZERO proof that he does it and that he does it because AJ is dirty.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? Damn dirty ape?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You drive me ape, you big gorilla.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm an orangutan, dammit!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yeah, I deny your assertion

There are a few on here that think the Cubs can do know wrong, but I’m not sure I’d say, “many”. Get a large enough group, and you’ll have all kinds of opinions.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's probably true...

…but at least Santo varies his word choices when climaxing over the Cubs:

“YES!!’

“OH, YES!!!”

“YES, SIR!!!”

“ALLRIGHT!!!”

With Hawk, it’s always the same ol’, same ol’.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 16, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot:

“GAH!”

“JEEZ!”

“AW, MAN!”

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the occasional muttered word that's really not supposed to be said over the airwaves

Never heard anyone complain about those, tho.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 16, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's because we're all uttering those.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 16, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One is on TV

the other is on the radio, there is a difference.

by bheidge on Jun 15, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ozzie

what a POS. Hes gotta be near the top of my list of people I want to punch.

by Glacier on Jun 14, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just for the record

Ted Lilly knock them both out with a single curveball

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Jun 15, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rise, gotten.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 15, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not from this

this doesnt really piss me off. Just anything the man says annoys me. most classless guy in baseball

by Glacier on Jun 15, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry guys

I think ozzie is awesome. He speaks his mind, and he wins. He has a championship, and last I checked we still dont. If he were our manager we might view him differently.

Dont misconstrue this – I don’t like a LOT of what he says, including this, but its not he doesn’t say it EVERY YEAR during interleague. I just think its excessive to get mad at a guy just doing his thing and why wouldn’t he do it – it seems to usually work.

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jun 14, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*like he doesn't say it every year.

"I'll play any day. I don't care if I'm 0-for-30, playing baseball is my PASSION. I'll go out and play." - Geo Soto

by CubbyBlues on Jun 14, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 14, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is...

what’s the point of doing this stuff? It’s not gamesmanship. I really doubt the Cubs give two s**t’s what Ozzie thinks about their park, so what’s the point if it doesn’t impact play on the field?

It’s like he gets off giving the finger to Cub fans every chance he gets, without it being relevent to the game.

I get being antagonistic towards your opponents. I don’t get antagonizing the everyday people who happen to be their fans.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 14, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s like he gets off giving the finger to Cub fans every chance he gets, without it being relevent to the game.

He’s playing to the element of the Sox fans who do that same thing.

And thats why he’ll have his job as long as he wants: he’s won and they love him.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 14, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Despite his team being in third place

And immensely underperforming. Not to say we aren’t. Lou shows emotion which is good. Ozzie talks badly about his player to the public and talks about players who aren’t even on the team any more.

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Jun 15, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 15, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What compels this man to say such things?

I’m having a hard time understanding why Mr. Guillen feels the need to demean everyone and everything in his path. When I think of the epitome of “respect for the game”, I think of Ozzie as the complete opposite of such.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 14, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Meh, he's just havin' some fun with us.

And he probably really does feel that way.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 15, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's just voicing his opinion

What’s wrong with that? I understand why the players and coaches don’t like Wrigley. It’s not exactly paradise when it comes to amenities.

Tamia Lynn Davis:
Born: August 18, 2008

by Unique on Jun 14, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm more curious...

…why he thinks that I have to “respect” his opinion?

I respect that he can have an opinion. But I get to decide if I respect what he says, or how he says it.

(I’m also a little confused by what the hell he’s saying? The sight of Wrigley makes him puke? The smell? The size of his parking space? What exactly causes him to throw-up without fail? And shouldn’t he see a doctor about that?)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 14, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Wrigley Field, they got to respect my opinion.

No. See? We don’t.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 14, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Respect his opinion about this? Not a chance in Cell.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jun 14, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish Ozzie...

… would drop tweaking Cubbie fans about the hallowed grounds of Wrigley Field. He should not say anything, just wear his 2003 & 2005 World Series rings.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I still wouldn't give a shit

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jun 15, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLAY BALL!

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just Ozzie being Ozzie

He loves to stir things up and play up whole “us vs. them” bit. i actually get a kick out of it because you don’t see big league managers so willing to play those kinds of games anymore.
I just wish he’d get some new material; maybe he could call Micah Hohfpauir a “Triple A bleep”…oh, wait…he already used that one too.

by bluekoolaide on Jun 15, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We should help Ozzie write some new material

It’s only neighborly, after all.

I’ll start: Blanco? At least we don’t fill our roster with Royals cast-offs!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 15, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New material?

This is the Cubs/Sox, most of the material on both sides is old, tired crap.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

But we're a creative bunch

Surely we can come up with some new angle.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 15, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ratatouille
The Sox appear Tuesday, so it was only appropriate to ask former Sox third baseman Joe Crede about Ozzie’s Guillen’s nonstop talk about Wrigley Field rats.

“They’re out there,” the new Minnesota third baseman said. “I’ve heard them out there in the [right-field batting] cage.”

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 7:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's nonsense.

The bleachers, where the batting cage is, were completely reconstructed three years ago. It’s kept very clean. I have never once seen a rat in that area.

Crede’s either hearing things or he’s also pandering.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 15, 2009 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pandering?

To Sox fans while he’s a Minnesota Twins player?

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pandering...

to Twins fans or the media in general as the cool thing to do now is to dump on things that just a little while ago were considered great. The whole " People love building up heroes because they love tearing them down even more" bit.

I swear I have seen or read more Wrigley, Fenway, Yankee Stadium, ARod, Kobe, LeBron, Brady, Manning, stink/suck/are overrated stories in the past year than I can ever remember.

by CubFan81 on Jun 15, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pandering to Twins fans who filled Wrigley ...

… the last 3 games? Twins fans don’t have negative views of Wrigley or the Cubs that I’m aware of.

The media? Yeah, they’re the ones who asked Crede about the whole “rats” thing. It’s not like Crede brought it up out of the blue. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the local media hoped to get this going with Ozzie too.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is also wrong.

There are good storylines this baseball season without pandering to the past.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 15, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't Ozzie write some new material for next year?

We know he doesn’t like Wrigley, and last year when they came in here talking all kinds of shit they got swept.

I’m so happy the Cubs have chosen to ignore it and just play ball.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Jun 15, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

The day I give two thoughts to any word that comes out of the mouth of Ozzie Guillen, you may as well entomb me in bubble wrap and bury me.

Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?

by krummy12 on Jun 15, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Entombed in bubble wrap?

I think a burial at sea would be more fun – watch the dearly departed bob up and down for a little while, and then break out the BB guns to see who scores the hit on the critical bubble that sends them under the waves for good.

I call dibs on this lucrative new market.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 15, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Men's Room Troughs

Can we put pictures of ozzie in the troughs when they come to play us?

"Okay, just so I understand it...in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil."- Jim Halpert

by ryanbrixenivy on Jun 15, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha, would provide everyone

something to aim

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by tony412 on Jun 15, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some Cubbie fans might have trouble going.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does that mean, exactly?

Is that a homophobic comment? Is that a racist comment? Is it a combination?

I’m sure you meant nothing vile by this, but this is exactly the kind of thing that you jump on others for.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a comment about pissing on photos of Guillen...

… how can that be brought lower?

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I don't deny that it's crude

But you didn’t answer the question.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since when do people here answer direct questions?

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come on. You can do better than that.

If Drew jumped off the Hancock Building, would you?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Jun 15, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better, but only because you used a picture

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I videotape it and put it on U-tube?

I love watching and hearing about Darwin candidates succeeding in their quests.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Jun 18, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why pay any attention to anything the guy says

He’s the Sox equivalent to HWSNBN- he’s just on the payroll

"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69

by tommy veryzer on Jun 15, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That manager can continue to say what he wants

and the same goes for his GM and some of his players. It won’t change the fact the team that plays 9 miles south of Clark and Addison:

   has always been,
   is currently,
   and will always be…

…an afterthought not only in MLB but CHICAGO baseball.

As long as these clowns continue to try to draw attention to themselves by putting down others, it simply verifies what many Cubs fans already know: They’re beyond envy.

These clowns think putting down the Cubs will elevate them. It doesn’t, it never has nor will it ever elevate them.

And the most sad part; it trickles down to a sizable portion of their fan base. Those folks are more interested in knowing the Cubs lost than what the Twinkies, Tribe or Cats did that day. Pathetic, how pathetic.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Jun 18, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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