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Hitting Coach;Bonds?

 

I was calling for Gerald Perry to be fired last year. I believe the Cubs didnt start producing more runs till Theriot took over leadoff when Sori was hurt. How are the Cubs worse this year in offense than last? Dont give me the Ramirez injury,the Dodgers are doing just fine without their Ramirez.

 Cubs should of picked up Barry Bonds as thier hitting coach. Can you think of anybody better? At least bring him in for consultation.He was hitting the roids but he was still was one of the best at the plate.



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Sarcasm?

"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jun 15, 2009 8:04 AM CDT reply actions  

What?

What on Earth would make anyone think that Bonds would either want to, or would make, a good batting coach? This is one of the most ridiculous suggestions anyone has made here.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 15, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mmm-hmmm.

Got any more good jokes?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Bonds has demonstrated an ability to recognize holes in his swings and flaws in others’ swings. So he could make a good batting coach. Not saying he would, but he could.

Why would he want to? Perhaps as a chance to rehabilitate his image among sportswriters, so he is a first ballot HOF inductee.

I’d be surprised to see him anywhere but a West Coast team though.

by cliff on Jun 15, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Because he has no people skills. There’s no way he’d have the patience (or desire) to teach anyone anything.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

He has no people skills when it comes to the media (and sometimes fans). If I remember, he wasn’t too bad with other players (except for Kent, but really…who does like Kent?). He mostly kept to himself I think…(case in point. The whole slideshow is actually pretty interesting).

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 15, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe the crazy Fanpost-to-off day ratio is 3:1.

So we should be expecting a couple more of these over the next 12 hours or so.

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by daver on Jun 15, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

also, what does it mean

when we have a crazy post and it is from a first time poster?

by LT on Jun 15, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

First-time posters have a significantly high likelihood...

…of writing crazy Fanposts – especially on off-days. This will all be in my book.

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by daver on Jun 15, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

"How to Successfully Post on BCB"

with a preface by BLou, Clutche, and all their incarnations hereafter. On sale now.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 15, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes it takes a few posts

to figure out the new incarnation. Maybe that should be a new entry into the BCB dictionary. Aliases…

by LT on Jun 15, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a newby here,

I would say the “regulars” post their fair share of craziness.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd have to agree

There’s no surefire formula for reasonability being proportional to time spent here.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 16, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Example?

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by daver on Jun 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dave, old alter-ego, that's asking for trouble

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Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aw, c'mon...

…we’ve got about nine hours to kill before the game . And that’s assuming it starts on time – looks like rain here in Chi-Town.

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by daver on Jun 16, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm scared, Dave

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 16, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Steady now, big boy.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 16, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

A recent example

BLou I believe it was calling for the dismantling of the team since it has no chance of winning.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, touche.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that Bonds would be a good hitting coach...

Being a fantastic hitter doesn’t make one capable of being a good coach. And you don’t have to have been a good hitter to be a good coach.

To be a hitting coach, you need to have patience, the ability to analyze someone else’s swing, identify problems and help players correct the problems.

Bonds was a natural talent who has said he doesn’t know how he does/did what he does/did. He simply could do it. So I don’t think that he’d be best-suited to help others. Further, he’s widely considered to be impatient and a jerk, which makes him poorly suited to work with others.

by SouthernCub on Jun 15, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I dunno...

You probably saw on ESPN when he went into the broadcast booth and was talking about Manny. I didn’t think it was quite as brilliant as the commentators did, but that said is seems pretty clear that he has a knack for understanding hitting, whether analyzing himself or other players.

As for him being a jerk…I mentioned it above, but in general my understanding that that was mostly with the media (and occasionally fans). I heard somewhat mixed things from teammates, but I thought he mostly just kept to himself. I could be wrong though…

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 15, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

As Al mentioned above

in the book about Balco etc there were some examples of team mates that weren’t too fond of him in college. I think he pretty much fits the spoiled brat with silver spoon profile. Besides all that who would want all that media attention everyday on your hitting instructor?

by LT on Jun 15, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's probably the more obvious reason why he wouldn't work...

It would be terrible PR for any team save maybe the Giants.

As for Game of Shadows…it might be accurate. But we should also keep in mind that it had an overall viewpoint/narrative that it was trying to present that was negative of Bonds. They wouldn’t include sections with guys saying “Golly, Bonds was a great teammate…”

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 15, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

You definitely could be wrong

and most of his teammates would probably say the same. He “owned” the clubhouse, he had his peeps hanging out with him in the clubhouse. He was respected as a great talent, but not as a person.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

milton, you're slumping

rub some of this cream stuff…….

by tim815 on Jun 15, 2009 8:21 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That’s it. Thread over. tim815 FTW.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 15, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

POST OF THE DAY!!!

BEST POST EVER ON TEH INTERWEBZZZ!!!

Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!

by Cub Style on Jun 16, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anybody catch Bonds in the San Fran booth early this season?

He was breaking down Manny’s swing and he knew what he was talking about. Don’t blow off this suggestion like its insane, Bonds probably couldn’t do it outside of San Fran, but if he wanted to be a hitting coach, I think he would do a good job.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Jun 15, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

If his ego allowed him to, it's possible.

But to bring Bonds into the Cubs’ clubhouse, cold and without any previous hitting coach experience, is pretty far-fetched.

Hypothetically, if Bonds had worked somewhere as a hitting coach before the Cubs, then yes, maybe, I could understand the move. But not in the middle of a season, and not without any experience.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jun 15, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would have to be in San Fran to start

I honestly think if he wanted to do it, he could do a good job. I just don’t know that he could do it, lots of superstar players who try and coach are often frustrated because other players don’t have the ability and desire that they did. I think that would be Bonds biggest obstacle.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Jun 15, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

That and his personality.

I agree that Bonds would have to understand players of lesser talent, and along with that, he’d have to learn how to sublimate his ego to work with a player. And from what I’ve read, Barry Bonds sublimated his ego for very few people.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jun 15, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Breaking News: Cubs hitters hire Bonds to enhance hitting performance

In other news, Lou Piniella encourages frustrated players to take out their aggressions on Soriano and Bradley and moves bat boy to leadoff spot.

In a prepared statement, Piniella said, “look, we really need to change the culture around here – get some new guys in here – and hit lack we did last year. Hey Paul.. can you hit?”. In a related move, the RIckets family announced that the have closed the purchase of the Cubs by securing funding for a lucrative naming rights contract for the renovated stadium, which will now be called ‘Balco Ballpark’

Oh man… Thank you so much for giving me a reason to laugh on a Monday Morning!

by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 15, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

1 reason why it can't happen

Last time I checked Bonds hasn’t officially retired? Could be wrong again but I think he still wants to play somewhere.

And do the Cubs really need that sort of controversy on the team?

by ak123 on Jun 15, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Bonds

Now that Bonds is off the juice maybe he isnt the testy jerk he has been. He has to be able to give the hitters insight.

by dhouse on Jun 15, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Bonds was a "testy jerk"...

… long before he was “on” anything. Read “Game of Shadows” to learn how he treated his teammates at Arizona State.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jerk

True, but being a jerk doesn’t mean you can’t be a good coach or manager. Lot’s of examples in MLB. In fact, maybe an obnoxious hitting coach would be a good thing. If you are DLee, Soriano, ARam, etc. are you more likely to listen to the nagging of Gerald Perry or Bonds riding your ass?

by cliff on Jun 15, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

he was jerk pretty much from day one.

It didn’t start in college, it started in little league.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 15, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a fairly long story...

.. the gist of it is, Bonds violated team rules and the coach kicked him off the team. Then he thought it might hurt the team too much during the NCAA run up to the College WS so he put it to a vote of his teammates, thinking they’d want his bat to help the team. The players voted him off, that’s how much they hated him.

More details in the book, and there’s more than that one story.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 16, 2009 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bonds has always been a primadonna

He grew up just up the road from me and as the son of a very good local player, he got a lot of attention. I first saw him when he was 11 or 12 in little league. Even then he had an ego that was out of control. It only got worse in high school and college.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peavy

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I was calling for Gerald Perry to be fired last year

I stopped reading after this. We were #2 in MLB offense last year.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 15, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I missed that the first time

Pretty stupid thing to say

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think my fave line from this Fanpost is:
Can you think of anybody better?

Well, there’s the guy who runs the convenience store in the lobby of my building. I rode in a cab driven by a guy who seemed to know a lot about baseball. Um, my Uncle Louie had a pretty sweet swing – at least he did during wiffle ball games…

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by daver on Jun 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just because a guy was a great hitter

does not mean he would be a great hitting coach. In fact, great players often make poor coaches. As players it came easier for them because of their god-given talent. More often than not the best coaches (and not just in baseball) are players with limited ability who overachieved. They had to learn the game because they did not have the god-given ability. As students of the game, they are better suited to become coaches/managers.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 16, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by daver on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

your suggestion to hire Bonds as hitting coach was a lame attempt at humor.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 15, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope this is trying to be funny

……. unfortunately i doubt thats the case

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011

by heine41 on Jun 15, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Too shocked to comment...

oops, guess I just did.

I have nothing funny or creative to write.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jun 15, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe Bonds could be that elusive coach/pinch hitter.

“Damnit, Hoffpauir. You gotta take those outside pitches the other way! Here, gimme that.” Grabs bat, pushes Aaron Miles out of the way, stomps onto the field and launches ball onto Waveland.

In the dugout, Lou shrugs. “Look, we weren’t scoring any runs. I didn’t know what else to do.”

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by daver on Jun 15, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

fixed it for you

pushes Aaron Miles out of the way through the wall,

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 15, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by jkobus on Jun 15, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worst.suggestion.ever.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 15, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

The dodgers are fine without manny

because they have other real good players and even had juan pierre to fill in for manny. Whereas the cubs are throwing AAA scrubs out there in replacement of ramirez.

by cubsmania on Jun 15, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

And Barry Bonds would help this...how?

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by daver on Jun 15, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't stop him, he's on a roll.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 15, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it ain't over now!

‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough…

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 15, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally!

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sig Thief!!!

lol

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Jun 16, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

FOOD FIGHT!!!

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by daver on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear

he’ll work for cigar, rum.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 15, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is very bad for you to touch Job's rum. Very bad.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 15, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Up yer butt, Jobu

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bartender, Jobu needs a refill!

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jun 17, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he'd make a great hitting coach.

The only problem is you’d have to pay him $10 million a year to do it.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 16, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

All the more reason to let him pinch hit once in a while.

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by daver on Jun 16, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my god

I’m out of it for a few days and the board has crap like this????

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 16, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

You're our Enforcer.

When you disappear, chaos ensues.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, after today

I’m gone for a week again.

So, I’m handing the baton and mace to you. If you see any Roger Clemens as pitching coach posts, feel free to start swinging.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 17, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll try and kick some ass the next couple days...

…but I’m headed up to Door County with the family on Friday. Drew? Shanghai? Who amongst the Mambochicken Collective will assume the Weapon of Righteousness:

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know, I have a key to the shed at the baseball field...

if we need the weapon, I can pick one up.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno -- Cub baseball is hard to take right now

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 17, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding. Today just about did it for me. I don't know how much

more of this I can take. I have never seen a more uninspired group of professional athletes. This team is really dead men walking right now. Lou better do something quick to jumpstart this team or they will be out of it by the all-star break. Milwaukee is starting to turn it on now and they could run away and hide.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 17, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really think they don't care?

That Cubs’ players are unmotivated, uninspired, don’t care, etc is the one of the most repeated statements on Cub boards. That some actually believe that the players are okay with sucking would be funny if it was not so ridiculous.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 18, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said they don't care, of course they care. They are professional athletes and

they want to win badly, but it’s just not happening now. When teams play like the Cubs are playing now, they just look flat. It’s not their fault, they are just pressing and not doing the things they would normally do. They just need something to happen to jump-start the team. It may be a lineup change or a great performance by a pitcher, but they need something to take the pressure off to allow them to relax at the plate and stop sqeezing the sawdust out of the bats.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 18, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you mean???

First you post: " No kidding. Today just about did it for me. I don’t know how much
more of this I can take. I have never seen a more uninspired group of professional athletes. This team is really dead men walking right now. Lou better do something quick to jumpstart this team or they will be out of it by the all-star break. Milwaukee is starting to turn it on now and they could run away and hide."

A day later you post: " I never said they don’t care, of course they care. They are professional athletes and they want to win badly, but it’s just not happening now. When teams play like the Cubs are playing now, they just look flat. It’s not their fault, they are just pressing and not doing the things they would normally do. They just need something to happen to jump-start the team. It may be a lineup change or a great performance by a pitcher, but they need something to take the pressure off to allow them to relax at the plate and stop sqeezing the sawdust out of the bats."

Which is it?

by lookingdeadred on Jun 19, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

I mean what I said. Just because I said they were playing uninspired doesn't mean they don't care. I'll repeat

it for you – I NEVER SAID THEY DON"T CARE! – OK? They are playing flat and have been playing flat for most of the season. The two post do not contradict each other. They need something to shake things up. Sometimes all it takes is a big come from behind win like they had or sometimes it’s a change in the lineup. Just something to loosen things up and get the team to play more relaxed. You can’t play well if you are squeezing the sawdust out of the bat. You just have to relax and let it go. That’s what they need.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 19, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hate to break it to you, but your posts do contradict each other.

If a player is uninspired, it means that he does not care. Inspired characters care, uninspired players do not.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 20, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

inspired (adj.) Of such surpassing brilliance or excellence as to suggest divine

inspiration: an inspired musician; an inspired performance.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 20, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Answer this if you will, wmh., who cares more, an inspired player or an uninspired player?

Now if you are saying you did not mean to say the Cub players did not care (uninspired), fine, we are in agreement. But when you characterized them as uninspired , you are saying they don’t care. It is silliness to deny that.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 21, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Look, I told you three post ago I never said they didn't care, you said that. I never said it and

I never meant it. Please don’t put words in my mouth and tell me what I meant. I know what I wanted to say and i said it. They were playing uninspired. That doesn’t mean they don’t care. The definition is pretty clear. Not having brillance or excellence has nothing to do with not caring. I never said why they were playing that way, just that they were. You made the leap and said that i meant that they didn’t care.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 21, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll try one last time

If a person is uninspired, that person does not care, whereas inspired people care a great deal, that is simple common sense.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 22, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

That's your version. My version of the word came from the dictionary. I don't know how

to make it any clearer. You seem to be hung up on the fact that an uninspired prson cares about what is going on, that wasn’t part of my post. We can argue on the fact of whether the Cubs were uninspired, but the definition of the word is what it is. Please spare me the lesson on what is and is not common sense.

Here is the actual definition of uninspired – uninspired (adj.) Having no intellectual, emotional, or spiritual excitement; dull. As I said before, I was making an observation on how the Cubs looked, not why. I said they were uninspired, which by definition is unemotional or dull. You chose to add that I was intimating that they looked that way because they didn’t care. That was not my intention. I have no idea why thay looked that way. They could have been out late partying or they coild have all been sick. Either way I was not speculating as to why they looked the way they looked, only that they looked that way.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 22, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

How do you make that leap? You cannot assume the reason for an action. There are a myriad of reason as

to why a performance can be uninspired. Why do you assume that the only reason can be that the individual does not care? I have never said that the player do not care about the game they are playing. I am not one of these individuals who thinks that the players are over-paid bums who could care less about the fans or their place in society. Please do not lump me into that group. You will never see a postfrom me criticizing players for not caring about their chosen profession. I do not know enough about the players personal lives the speculate about their motivations for their performances. It’s not my place and I do not care to get into that type of discussion. I can only go by what I can see on the field. My observation was that the team looked flat. That’s as far as my analsis goes.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 22, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is boring

If you think uninspired people care, go ahead, but don’t be surprised if people find that hard to swallow.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 22, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

You are right this is boring. What people are going to find hard to swallow is

that you know the motivation of what drives a person. You can’t make that assumption because you don’t know.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 22, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

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