Wrigleyville Invasion Of The Twins Fans
by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2009 8:14 AM CDT
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Fans crowd Sheffield Avenue (looking south toward Addison) after Sunday's game... with more Twins fans than Cubs fans in sight.
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Yeah, what was the deal with that?
That delivery truck is even wearing Brian Buscher’s number.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
I saw quite a few when I was in Chicago friday night
It’s not a bad road trip and they don’t play at Wrigley often. I’m sure they were more than happy to pay a premium to buy tix from season ticket holders.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
I think that's cool
I think any crowd that comes to support their team is cool.
They’re helping Chicago’s economy by staying hotels, they bring an element of dueling fans cheering/booing in the crowd and it makes for a fun environment.
I’ve always gotten a laugh when Cubs are playing somewhere like in Colorado and you hear a “Let’s go Soto” chant.
I think this was one of the largest contingents of visiting fans ever at Wrigley.
Louder than most Cardinal or White Sox visiting crowds.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I think the loudest one I heard was
The Tigers fans in 2006. It felt like a road game. Almost as bad as when the Redwings fans invade town.
I was there, but I was rooting for BOTH teams ;)
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
What I thought was strange
was I’ve never seen that kind of Twins turnout for a White Sox/Twins game in Chicago and they’re division rivals.
Twinkie fans must have wanted to get a first hand look at Wrigley Field.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 15, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
The shocking thing is...
that you would think it is the other way around seeing that Wrigley smells like urine (according to Ozzie).
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
And comments like THAT are why Ozzie continues
to talk.
Just ignore it. If people rise out of it all that does is encourage him and the WS fans to keep on.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Chris Osgood is the Sox manager now? Where was I when this change was made?
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
I agree
I was there Saturday, it felt like it was 75% Twins fans in the bleachers.
Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...
It was the same in the bleachers on Friday.
I felt like a minority!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
Probably wanted to see real outdoor baseball
instead of games inside the white mushroom. And, if you come here once in what a decade, you better come and enjoy probably the best midwestern ballpark. I just wonder how they got so many tickets.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
More than when the Tigers came to Wrigley in 2006?
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 15, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I was there Friday and Sunday
Friday certainly had louder Twins fans, if they weren’t larger in number. Sunday was pretty subdued by comparison, at least as far as the noise went, though there weren’t very many Twins fans in my section.
The Red Line ride up from downtown on Friday was the most opposing fans I’ve ever seen on the train before, that’s for sure.
"You know, you should be a lot more careful crossing the street like that, otherwise you could die - if that bothers you."
Good for the Twins
This is what is so nice about Interleague play. Most Twins fans probably don’t get to see Wrigley Field if their team doesn’t go there. Really cool IMO.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Twins fans
I was at the friday and saturday games. A lot of the twins fans I talked to were really excited to get a preview of what their games will be like once their new stadium opens up.
I live up in MN and this weekend was a really good sign for Twins baseball that the fans will come when they have a better venue than the Dome. They have a pretty good team to root for.
btw, a number of twins fans first reaction to seeing Cub fans in Fukudome jerseys was “why are they making fun of the Dome?”
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
Awesome
It took me two reads to understand what they were upset about. Poor Dome, his name causes so much confusion.
I do think Mizzou Arena should be renamed the Fu-kU-Dome.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Now we know how everybody else in the league feels
when Cubs Nation rolls into town for away games.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
I think it's great
Twins fans in general are pretty good, and pretty cool. A lot of them live in places like the Dakotas and Montana and Nebraska, so they’re used to traveling a bit. I’m sure the lure of seeing their team playing at Wrigley was too much for them to pass up, particularly when you play most of your games in a dump like the Dome.
And yes, considering the way Cubs fans show up en masse in places like Milwaukee, Cincinnati or Colorado, it would be hypocritical to get upset about it. Let’s not be like the paranoid, chip-on-their-shoulder fans who live on the north side of the Cheddar Curtain.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 15, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
-1
Only for using the phrase “Cub Nation”.
Fanbases need to get a new schtick, everyone being a “nation” is stupid.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 15, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+ 1 million
I hate the whole “Fill-in-the-blank Nation” phenomenon.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 15, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except for when it's for teams that have no national following...
Such as “Marlins nation.” Then it’s just amusingly ironic. :)
Otherwise, it is really annoying. Especially when preceeded by “Red Sox”…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 15, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
How about "Marlins' Village" or ...
“Marlins’ Hamlet?”
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 15, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
JUST THINK WHAT CINCINNATI
Felt like in Sept of 2007 when thousands of Cub Fans camped out there for the weekend.( Cubs took 2/3 and were in the playoffs ) You know the rest of the story….
Last September in Cincy
was no joke, either. There must have been 30,000 Cubs fans at GABP for the Saturday-night game in which Soriano hit three homers.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 15, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish I could be as good a sport as most of you,
but I just cringed when I heard crowd reaction on Saturday. Again, I realize this is a little immature, but it was embarassing. I love it when our fans do it for our road games, but it is a little shocking when it happens in reverse.
I’ve come to think over the past few years it would be better to sell tickets in smaller lots —less full season tickets, more 4,8,12, game packages. It might help discuourage the volume of selling you see on ebay or StubHub. I know teams are focused on limiting the (marked up) resale market to protect revenue, but from a fans view I’d like to see a strategy that attempted focus the tickets at the local fans.
So it's ok for the Cub fans to do it, but not other teams.
Not so much immature as sanctimonious.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I would have felt better about the Twinkie invasion
if the Cubs would have won the series.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
No, it is ok for anyone/any team, but
I was just wishing it was more difficult at Wrigley. It seems when our fans are in voice on the road it is more often than not in less than sold out games. So, we are just taking that opportunity that their fans passed up.
At Wrigley is much more difficult for Cub fans to get tickets. I have the virtual waiting room scars to prove it. I know there is always ample markled up tickets through online channels (which I use on occassion), but that is what I am guessing makes it easy for the non-Cub fans to get their tickets. So, Cub fans are (indeirectly) selling their tickets to Twin, Sox, Card fans. I know that is the reality, but I don’t like it.
I think it is also a direct relation to the huge increase
in ticket prices over the last few years. Season ticket holds may be more likely to sell more of their tickets just to afford the prices.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
From a purely Chicagoan standpoint, its a boon for tourism and great for our city. All those twins jerseys on Michigan Ave all weekend were pumping money straight in to our economy.
From a Cubs fans standpoint, it doesn’t matter… our team still gets the ticket revenue, as well as the money from the Minnesota fans buying beer, food, merch. Home field advantage could be an argument, but i don’t buy in to this in baseball as much as other sports, and its not like it was an overwhelming Twins presence…
Honestly, i think this weekend was sort of a perfect storm for a Wrigley invasion… waning interest / growing frustration in a team that has been disappointing us of late, the first nice weather weekend with a plethora of events (Blues Fest, Old Town Arts Fest, on and on), concerts (Chesney at Soldier Field) and otherwise to compete for Chicago attention, and an interleague contest our fans aren’t inclined to care about but became a great destination vacation for Minnesota fans who could drive the short distance to see a storied field, an outdoor game…
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd LOVE to see the Cubs institute partial season ticket plans. Many other major and minor league clubs do this.
For out-of-state Cubs fans, this would be great.
I got a six-game season ticket package from the Tigers this year – so I could get tickets for all 3 Cubs-Tigers games, and sold the other 3 games to my sister in suburban Detroit. It worked out well for all…
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
I think if you admit it is immature
it isn’t immature.
"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse
I am from MN and had three different groups of friends make the trek to Wrigley.
I think for all of them it was an opportunity to experience a “real” baseball game, outdoors, in a place you could walk around and enjoy the atmosphere, which is completely unlike the Metrodome.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Makes perfect sense to me.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
I agree
I came down with four friends that are twins fans and knew of a few other groups that were making the trek. Like I said above, all of the twins fans I spoke to during the game were excited to experience “real” baseball
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
Now that it can't be held against me,
I’ll tell you a little story about this past weekend.
I bought tickets for the entire series back in February. I was very excited as I would get to see my beloved Cubs play my adopted team. My college roommate, Todd, who still lives up in Minneapolis planned on coming down and staying with us.
Fast-forward to mid-May. Mr. Todd decides that after 12 years of dating his girlfriend, he is good and ready to get married. Everything is coming up roses for Mr. Todd. But with all the excitement of the proposal, he forgets he has a trip planned to Chicago, until he calls me to share the news. I remind him about it and he tells me he would have to talk to the fiancée but we’re pretty sure he’d cancel.
No big deal, because several people can use my extra ticket, right? So Mr. Todd calls me about two weeks ago and asks if he can buy my wife’s and my ticket. The bride-to-be’s brother was going to be on leave from the Air Force and they were wondering if I would do them a solid.
Long story short, and after being berated thoroughly by my wife, I decided to sell them the tickets. They spent the weekend here, rooting for the Twins, and I harbored them. It turns out that Capt. Brother of the Bride is a season-ticket holder up in the Twin Cities. He offered me one ticket for opening day at the new field next April.
I guess I did good. They had a great time, I got to hang out with 40-year-olds behaving like college freshmen, and I scored a ticket for the coldest game ever next year. Please don’t hold it against me.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 15, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Great story.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
Awesome
“rooting for the Twins, and I harbored them…”
That is great! lol!
Don’t forget your down parka, scarf, boots, under-armor, and hand warmers!
I had posted this before
but, because they rely on having to draft and play baseball almost perfectly in order to succeed – the fans are very knowledgeable. Particularly about their minor league system, which has been providing the bulk of their players for years.
I was also there Friday and Saturday, and just found the Twins fans to be thrilled to be at Wrigley, and they were so, “gosh-darned nice”. So it was tough to “hate-’em”.
Which, indeed, I do not feel as kindly towards Cards fans or White Sox fans in my park.
The worst is the guy wearing a Sox jersey when he comes to see the Cubs play the Padres.
I was also there in 2006 when the Tigers came to Wrigley. It was probably even worse, because the Cubs were truly out of it by this time (even though Al didn’t admit it – lol)
You're right, of course.
In hindsight, I should have seen that in June 2006. Think about that Tigers series every time you think things are bad now.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Didn't Mark Prior make one of his last starts in the series?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Yes.
It was his first start back from the DL that year, highly anticipated. It was probably the worst start of his career — he threw 3.2 innings, allowed 7 hits and 7 ER. Four of the hits were HR.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
As I remember, Curtis Granderson
led off the Friday game with a single, the Saturday game with a double and the Sunday (Prior) game with a triple. Thank God it wasn’t a four game series. They looked great though, and it carried them right on to the WS with the Cards.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
That was a great Tigers team
and in typical Prior fashion he lets us down in a hyped moment. I’m so happy we are finished with him.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I don't think this is true
Say what you will about Prior, but I think the evidence supports his being a big-game pitcher. The Cubs won two of his three starts in the 2003 playoffs, and it wasn’t necessarily his fault they lost Game 6 of the NLCS.
He was dominant down the stretch in 2003, winning 10 of his last 11 starts (losing only to the Expos 3-2 in Puerto Rico), and in 2004 he pitched very well in September; the Cubs went 3-2 in his five starts, but the losses were by scores of 4-3 (to the Mets at Shea) and 2-1 (that horrific loss to the Reds at Wrigley that was the final nail in the coffin).
"You know, you should be a lot more careful crossing the street like that, otherwise you could die - if that bothers you."
We had tickets for the first two games and listened to the third game on the drive home to Michigan.
Ronny was going NUTS in the radio booth as Prior continued to throw fastball after fastball and get absolutely hammered. Ron couldn’t believe Prior wasn’t mixing in ANY off-speed pitches.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
Yuck
I thought we agreed to never speak of 2006 again?
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
Well, it WAS a pretty good year in Detroit (only 3 years removed from 43-119...)
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
The Twins fans I ran into in the bleachers on Friday
were the farthest thing from "gosh-darned nice" and it was real easy to "hate-’em"! But a lot were college age that were hammered out in the bleachers. I saw about a dozen get tossed out as the game wore on.
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
I saw a kid wearing a "Cubs suck" shirt and Padre hat yesterday
Boy, did he look sad at the end of the game.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh, the disguise of a Sox fan wanting to enjoy a game
at Wrigley.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Quite possibly
His buddies were wearing Twins shirts
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
"...guy wearing a Sox jersey when he comes to see the Cubs play the Padres"
I saw that guy last month! Do you remember that, Al?
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
For some this is an irritant, but it is
further evidence of the importance of Wrigley. If the Cubs played in the middle of a giant parking lot in a more sterile new field, trips like this may occur in the first few years the stadium is open, but doubtful the allure would still be there.
I realize not all Cub fans appreciate the mystique of Wrigley, but anything that helps make ticket sales predictable helps the front office manage the budget and predict cash flow to keep payroll up. (Any commentary on scouting talent and utilization of payroll cash is for another thread.)
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
The Cubs would easily sellout,
without any help form Twin, Indian, Sox, or Cards fans help. The only revenue these out of town fans help drive are the legal and illegal scalpers, and the Cub fans who choose to profit on some of their tickets rather than support their team.
Not entirely true...
The only revenue these out of town fans help drive are the legal and illegal scalpers…
They stayed in our hotels, spent money in our restaurants, bought beer in our bars, and spent dollars in our stores. That is good for Chicago. And in a very macroeconomics way, that money in our pockets will allow the cubs to up ticket prices again next year, and hopefully dump that increased revenue in to payroll, or in to modernizing Wrigley, which in turn increases revenue, which can be dumped in to payroll… you get the picture.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 15, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Stop whining about Scalpers
The Cubs offer plenty of tickets to non season ticket holders. They do offer a package of a smaller amount of tickets though most of the games are in April and May. I financial support the team with my season ticket package. I but them when they have good teams and bad teams. I have to pay for games when the weather is likely crappy (April/May night games). If I choose to profit by selling some of my tickets I’m not hurting anyone. The market place determines the price. It’s kind of the American way.
You are not diong anything wrong, but
when you sell your ticket to a scalper — it hurts the team. Period.
Whatever additional profit you make — is a revenue opportunity loss to the team.
Some of tckets you resell, stock the Internet sites that make so many seats available to visiting team fans.
Um, how is that revenue lost to the team?
I would’ve already paid the team for the hypothetical ticket.
Railing against scalpers is fine, but this argument makes no sense to me.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
If, face value is $60, and the ticket is resold for $100
someone made $40. How many Twin fans you think were there Sat? If there was 20,000, and 75% bought resold tickets for an average of $40 additional, then there was a $600k potential revenue loss. Over a season, many millions of potential dollars are lost becuase sports teams cannot capture the true value of their tickets. This is especailly true with the Cubs where the tickets are in high demand and the supply is relatively small.
So frame your agrument better...
… you saying “when you sell your ticket to a scalper — it hurts the team” isn’t fair.
The team hurt itself by not getting market value for its ticket. Its not the fault of whoever waited in the VWR that the ticket was $60 instead of $100. The team set that pricepoint.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 15, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Logic fail.
If the cubs sell a ticket for $25, that is what they get for the ticket no matter who buys it. If i buy it at $25, they got what they wanted from it.
If i turn around and resell it to somebody else for $50, that $25 in profit is not lost to the team. They never had the chance at that $25. Sure, they screwed up by offering the ticket at a lower-than-market price (see below where i talk about ticketing eventually becoming all auction, run by the teams / performers), but the lost revenue opportunity is the teams fault in that case, not the reseller.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 15, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I work in concerts, so i have a sort of biased view on this...
… individuals reselling their tickets isn’t a problem in my mind. You buy these things months in advance, not knowing your schedule. If the market value has gone up between when you got them and when you discover you must unload them, so be it.
What i hate, detest, despise, can not tolerate, are ticket brokers. They use automated hacking systems on the web, pay the homeless and college students and others to stand in line, and often make deals with corrupt box office managers and / or promoters to get large blocks of great seats. They then artificially drive up the market price by listing the best seats at ridiculous prices so their slightly worse seats at a fraction of the price, while still vastly inflated from face value, seem to be a good buy. They make ridiculous profit while providing the fan nor the team with any tangible benefit, and they do it at the expense of those who only wish to enjoy an event.
Eventually, sporting events and concerts alike will likely go to auction only selling, where every seat is open simply to the highest bidder. While this system more emphatically favors the wealthy, it basically replicates what ends up happening via brokers now (trust me, no matter how early you get in line you STILL aren’t getting those front row Miley Cyrus tickets for your kid… they’ve already been whored out to radio stations, traded for print ads, set aside for “VIP’s”, or sold to brokers). At least under the “all tickets are for auction” model the extra revenue gained from the high market value of great seats ends up with the team or performer who deserves it…
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 15, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
… concert promoters will do what they are doing with the Miley Cyrus tour — make it “paperless” and require the credit card holder who buys the ticket to actually show up at the show.
There are pluses and minuses to this system for the person who just wants to go to the show or game. Imagine if you shell out $200 to take your 12-year-old daughter to the Miley Cyrus show. She can’t buy the ticket herself because she doesn’t have a credit card. You buy this four months ahead of time fully intending to go.
Two days before the show, you are called out of town on business. You can’t get someone else to take her because YOU have to show up with YOUR ID and YOUR credit card. You can’t sell the tickets even at face value for the same reason. You’re basically screwed in that scenario.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
So that means that you can't buy tickets as a gift for someone?
That seems like a really stupid system…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 15, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You COULD buy tickets as a gift, but...
… you’d also have to go.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Al..
… i wouldn’t be so sure that they’ll go that route very soon. See this article about Cyrus’s tour onsale bombing over the weekend.
Don Vaccaro, CEO of TicketNetwork, told TicketNews that “consumers stayed away from paperless tickets in part because of convenience and logistic issues.” Vaccaro added that "Frontline management’s marriage to Ticketmaster may have cost Miley dearly. It appears as Miley’s managers made a decision to benefit TicketMaster while sacrificing Miley. This could be a career ending situation for Miley’s singing career."
The dirty little secret is that brokers rush to get their tickets on day one, which causes those instant sellouts Cyrus needed in order to not be considered a bomb this weekend. A lot of people don’t want to buy four months out, they want to buy the week of. In that respect, brokers do provide a service, but one that is not worth their costs. This could easily be accomplished with the right ticketing system as well… an auction system where the auction is non-transferable once finalized, and ends the week before for all tickets of high value. As long as that auction was run by the performer or team, they’d still get the revenue.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 15, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting take on it.
I suspect it’ll be a long while before anyone else tries paperless.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
The Cubs Have an Auction
The CBOE seats have been Auctioned off for the past 2 years. And the White Sox Auction a lot of their seats through Tickemaster.
I disagree.
Wrigley didn’t have the same allure in the 60’s and 70’s because there were still other older stadiums in use with many of the same ballpark features. Storied history (both good and bad stories), seats close to the field, authentic retro, not fancy new retro, etc. In those years, there were many empty seats. Today, the park can sell out a cold Tuesday in April.
The Tigers, and, White Sox played in formerly great ballparks rendered useless by lack of upkeep and the Twins, Brewers, & Indians had older, but less endearing parks.
With only Fenway and Wrigley having the charm, the need for other fans to see their team play in one of the old parks will grow.
My theory is the cold days in April sell out to local fans because of the pressure on seats by caravans like the one that came from Minny/StP later in the summer make April tickets easier to acquire.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
I must say...
I have a high level of respect for the Twins organization, the fans, and the team (pretty jealous of the team if you want me to be honest). They seem liked they enjoyed the series, more than just beating us, but the experience the environment, and us as fans i think think.
They definitely made a nice impression on me this past weekend.
Oh and Joe Mauer & Justin Morneau, the best 1-2 in the league.
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
I think DGU was preaching that throughout the offseason.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jun 15, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You can be jealous of Minny (living in MN, I surely am), but their stadium is easily the worst professional stadium I’ve ever been in. Pretty incredible that they are gonna have 3 new stadiums in the Twin Cities in the next few years.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Agreed
The twins are just an all around good ball club and one that should be imitated.
As far as the Dome is concerned nothing sounds right in there. Base hits sound hollow and crowd noise artificial. Even when it is full, the Dome is just awful.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
It's very, very, VERY LOUD.
Loudest place I’ve ever been in. It sounds like a friggin’ Metallica concert when it’s packed for a Twins game (unlikely) or a Vikings game (likely).
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I was there for Game 2 of the '87 World Series
Never heard a louder place in my life.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I did not accidently...
leave their stadium off my list :)
"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"
I'm not too jealous of the team
They’re no better than the Cubs right now, after all.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 15, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a lot younger and less expensive
n/t
"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69
by tommy veryzer on Jun 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
A series win for the team and its fans.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
I hope all of the Twins fans had a terrific time
and will come back soon to Chicago to visit. The City definitely need the $ they bring with them!
Hey, it's a new century!
I had only a very brief, but friendly exchange with a Twins fan after Sunday's game
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 15, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
Ewwww.
This is a sight I could do without seeing ever again.
(Full disclosure: I loathe the Twins for various reasons which I will not bore you with by repeating here, so take my opinion with a grain of salt or ten thousand.)
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