Why do they care so much about us?

are pretty loud and pretty obsessed with the Cubs. Mostly, i think, because there are about an equal number of Cubs and Cardinals fans who live here. Of course, the proportions change depending how far north or south you go.

I don’t recall much Cubs fixation among Cardinals fans when I lived in Missouri, but that was over 20 years ago.

Yeah, there’s PLENTY of that stuff there.

I grew up being a Cubs fan in Southeast Missouri, and now, I live in St. Louis. SOME card fans go out of their way to let me hear it about the Cubs. Especially when I lived in Southeast MO. I honestly think a lot of it (especially right now) is jealousy of all the attention the Cubs get. Also, I think right now, the Cubs have a team that are willing to do whatever they need to wind. The Cards won’t push as far. Historically, I think the Cards have always been the most popular team central (midwest) US. The Cubs have always pushed that, and maybe and have finally passed them in that regard. That is my two cents. .

Some of them are pretty tame and generally are pretty cool, but there is a good number that take a bit too much pride in seeing the Cubs suffer.

And I have family members that lived in the St. Louis areas for years. Including Cardinals fans.

… but when you live in the area, you see both good and bad on a regular basis… and the bad are always much more vocal, especially toward Cub fans.

Everyteam has some great fans… no doubt about it.

Cardinal fans that really hate the Cubs. One of the biggest Cub-hater is Al Hrabosky. He never misses an opportunity to put down the Cubs and Wrigley. There definitely is a complex there. Even though the Cardinals have won many more titles than the Cubs, they seem to be jealous of the popularity of the Cubs and Wrigley field. The Cardinal fans always fancy themselves as “The best in baseball” and won’t hesitate to tell you about it. Most of them see Cub fans as a bunch of idiot boozers who know little about the game. They aren’t as obvious as White Sox fans, but it’s there.

I go to just about every Cubs game at Miller Park, and most of the Brewers fans I’ve met there have been great. Very friendly and knowledgable. But those people typically have been in their mid-30s or older. The younger Brewers fans, in the 20s and early 30s, really are a lot more ignorant — getting drunk and shouting “Cubs suck,” etc.

I’ve never really run into that at a Cardinals-Cubs game at Busch Stadium. It seems like there’s a lot less confrontation. A lot of good-natured back and forth, but not outright hostility like I’ve seen in Milwaukee (and bear in mind, there are a lot of moron Cubs fans going to those games, too).

Perhaps it’s because Cubs and Cardinals fans have to live and work together a lot more than Cubs and Brewers fans do. If you live anywhere in Illinois outside of Chicago, you probably know some Cardinals fans. I don’t think there’s as much everyday interaction between Cubs and Brewers fans.

Reds fans … I don’t pay much attention to them. Although interestingly enough, the Reds Radio Network does have an Illinois station — in Mount Carmel, on the Indiana border in the southeastern part of the state.

since they park the park.

I think some of the perceived hatred that comes from St. Louis or Cincinnati is also a result of radio, tv, and/or newspaper personalities trying to “stir the pot.” By fanning the flames, I think a lot of people get the impression that the hatred exists.

That said, Marty Brennaman does severely dislike the Cubs, and I think his message of dislike for the franchise fuels some Reds’ fans.

………..who attends multiple Cubs games at Miller, Busch and Cellular – to say nothing of observing their fans’ attire at Wrigley a dozen times or more each year – I think I know what I’m talking about.

Granted, my observations are limited to the games themselves. I don’t pay much attention to the stuff in bars or in passing cars, etc., so that may help to balance the scales. But if we are speaking strictly in ballpark terms, the Cards win the ugly, negative contest going away.

the choir, brother.

yes. Ironic. :D

…and there was a guy there in full Sox regalia whose sole purpose appeared to be getting the crowd to heckle him and keeping security busy. These people just thrive on conflict and calling attention to themselves – they have little interest in baseball. And, yes, they come from both fanbases.

Those were people who think that there’s only one baseball team in Chicago, and they were attending a game at it’s southern stadium.