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Wittenmeyer talks about some good Aramis news. Going to get his bat out this week.

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Get well soon, Aramis.

The article also features some quotes from Gerald Perry on his firing.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Aramis says he wants to...

… start a rehab assignment in two weeks. That may be a little early, but it still may put him on target to return right after the All-Star break.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 17, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep, that's when I see him coming back, too.

Looks like the Cubs have a four-game series with the Nats coming out of the break. Washington’s pitching would be good batting practice for Aramis.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

We shouldn't need him for that series.

That might make it easier for Lou to give him just a couple more days to make sure he’s good to go.

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by cubswynn on Jun 17, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he could play in only a couple games or for shortened durations in all four.

I still think a nice low-pressure series would be a good way to ease him back into action.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Maybe get in 5 innings, 2-3 at bats, and pull him.

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by cubswynn on Jun 17, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at that schedule coming out of the All-Star Break

4 at Washington, 3 at Philadelphia, 3 vs. Cincinnati, 4 vs. Houston. Aside from Philadelphia, that’s a very winnable stretch of games.

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by Bill Potter on Jun 17, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just like

3 at Atlanta, 3 at Cincinatti, 3 at Houston, 3 vs Minnesota?

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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 17, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would make me happy...

as I will be at all four of those games. It would be great to see him return for at least part of that series.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 17, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Al,

Do you remember what Lee did in 2005 as his rehab stint? He only played a couple games in Iowa, right?

I just hope Ramirez and/or the team don’t rush back and take time to fully use what a “rehab” is supposed to be.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 17, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lee's injury was different.

Under the circumstances he probably should have just shut it down for the year.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 17, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, well, well.
Milton Bradley, the only Cub who knew Perry as a hitting coach before his stint with the Cubs (with Oakland in 2006), pointed the finger at himself and teammates for Perry’s firing

‘’I like Gerald personally. I felt for him when his father passed away earlier in the spring,’’ said Bradley, whose .227 seasonlong slump is emblematic of the team’s offensive woes. ‘’Most guys around the team who have been with him the past couple years said he didn’t really do anything different.

‘’If anything was different it was just us not hitting. We should all feel partly responsible for him getting fired.’’

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 17, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Good quote.

Personal responsibility is lacking these days – I like to hear Milton shoulder some of the blame.

by madcow256 on Jun 17, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

More quotes

I know we can all look at the article but this is what stood out to me. We debate on here day and night and sometimes we just think we know more than Lou. His reasoning makes sense even if it made our bench thinner. The bench wouldn’t even have been an issue had some of these guys hit like they’re capable of. So who are these pitchers that needed extra rest?

‘’I knew we weren’t going to stay long with 13 [pitchers],‘’ Piniella said. ’’I had a couple players that we didn’t want to report to the media that needed a little more rest, that had minor ailments. So we kept with 13 pitchers for four or five days. But I didn’t feel that we were going to stay that way long.

‘’If we need more than 12, we’ve got real problems.’’

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by tony412 on Jun 17, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Jason Waddell was probably one.

Whatever he has – chicken pox, scabies, whatever – was preventing him from pitching, so he was one who was not available.

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by Bill Potter on Jun 17, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are we going to learn what this "mystery illness" is at any point I wonder.

But the ARam news is good to hear.

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd sure like to know as well.

I kinda wonder whether it’s another case of anxiety.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

As someone who has suffered from them in past.

They are embarrassing enough the way they are. Something one wants to hide from even the people around them

I can’t imagine what is like for a baseball player to have that reported and have the world know. That alone must increase it.

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 17, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was Greinkes previous problem too I believe

Which is why he left spring training in i think 07 or 08 cant remember.

by Glacier on Jun 17, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Greinke - as well as Dontrelle Willis, Khalil Greene and Joey Votto.

It’s interesting that players/teams are starting to be a little more open about it.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Waddell really have...

… a non-baseball related issue, or was this a way to workaround a loophole to bring Fox back earlier?

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by initram on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 17, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss Aramis.

Obviously, so do the Cubs.

He’s my current favorite Cub.

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by Unique on Jun 17, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

The type of injury suffered suggests that Aramis will doubtful ever get back to full strength this season

Predictions for him being the old Aramis the 2nd half of the season are silly. Take it week to week and see what happens.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 17, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

But he’s still a gigantic improvement over whoever is playing 3B that day.

Anyone who thinks the team will turn itself around and win every game with A-Ram isn’t thinking logically. But it’s safe to say that him being in the lineup improves our chances of winning immensely each day.

by ak123 on Jun 17, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't be expecting a lot of power.

But if he can work good ABs and drive in some runs with timely hits (assuming anyone is on base) then he’ll help the team.

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by daver on Jun 17, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but that doesn't mean he won't still be a huge upgrade...

Even Ramirez with doubles power is much better than the sub-.600 OPS we’ve been getting from 2B this year.

by SouthernCub on Jun 17, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rami back

means Fonty goes back to second, and Miles goes back to the bench. That, alone, is huge.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

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