Who is your favorite Cub?
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 9:52 AM CDT
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With yesterday “revelations” regarding Sosa I have read many posters here on BCB talking about how crushed they are because Sammy was their hero and the main reason why they started following the Cubs in the first place. I think Al has done a very nice job on several occasions of explaining the paradox that was/is Sammy’s relationship with Cub fans. For me, yeah, I soaked up the 1998 season along with the rest of the baseball world because we needed it following the debacle that was 1994 and the disgruntled feelings that followed. The 1998 season is probably why I still need my daily Cubs fix today. But honestly, Sammy was never a favorite…he was more like a carnival show you had to watch because you wanted to see something amazing.
I am sure this is generational, but believe it or not, I got “hooked” on the Cubs and baseball in general watching Dave “King Kong” Kingman, Bruce Sutter, Bill Buckner, etc.. Since then many others have come along that have bumped Kong and the others down on my list, including Ryno. Grace, Maddox, Wood, have all been fantastic and made me get emotional about our Cubs, but for me, Ryno is still my all-time favorite.
This is not about who is “the best” like Al’s top 100, but the recent Sammy comments have made me wonder, BCB Nation, who is your favorite all-time Cub?
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Sandberg
probably more so because I saw his whole career and it was primarily an entire career as a Cub.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jun 17, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy Williams was my childhood hero.
He played every day and did it with class and dignity, and then did the same as a coach.
He spent 31 years in a Cub uniform — that’s the most of any single person, over 5,000 games.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 17, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mr Cub
Will be interesting to see if “Mr. Cub” gets much love.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Dawson
was the epitome of a superhero for me. Power, dignity and class.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Jun 17, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the Hawk
Still have his poster. Loved that bushy ’stache. It makes me cringe to see what has happened to the #8 since he left…(alex gonzalez, barrett, mike quade, rex grossman).
by Hawk8 on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he would have been a cub
for his entire career it might change my decision………
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jun 17, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The man that truly deserved the salam (sp)
As Al said earlier it was when I was a kid in the late eighties and early nineties watching WGN and Andre patrol right field and get the salam from the crowd. Never felt right when they did it for Sosa, though did like him until all his crap. Also was great to find my old poster of Dawson in that cool stance (always tried to imitate it in little league) and then show it to my 9 yr old nephew after moving. Always will love the Hawk and await the day he makes it to the Hall and hopefully as a Cub
by NebraskaCubsFan on Jun 17, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had to choose one....
It’d have to be Grace.
My first baseball memories were from the 88-89 seasons growing up in Chicago when I was 6 or so. I loved watching Grace, Sandberg, and Dawson.
Grace played the game right and I loved his approach each and every at bat. I just wish things hadn’t soured so much in 2000 as he left the organization. I am glad however, that the relationship has been somewhat repaired over the last few years thanks in large part to John McDonough.
by AGC on Jun 17, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wood!
Just realized I left Kerry out of the poll…he would have gathered a few votes I am sure.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe you have the power to edit your own Fanpost.
You can still add him.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
Yes, you can.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading some of the above comments...
… it appears that for many, their choice is going to depend on the era in which they were a kid first following baseball. Players seem larger than life then; you haven’t learned the realities of adult life and a Dawson or Williams seems like a true hero. Those guys are indeed classy, as are most on this list.
Not everyone, but I bet many people will choose someone they loved to root for as a child.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 17, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree.
That’s who “you are” when you are nine years old playing with your buddies in the back yard! I often wonder who my four year old son “will be” in five years.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I never got to see the old great Cubs play as I became a cubs fan in 97-98. As a 10 year old Sosa was obviously some one I thought was amazing and was my favorite Cub. But as I learned the game and followed it more closely I began to dislike him more and more. And then Wood threw his unforgettable 20 K game, and he became my favorite Cub player I have been able to watch.
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by jkobus on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree, Al
I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the post. Took the words right out of my mouth which happens quite often here because of the time difference. I don’t always comment but I’m here.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 17, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Moreland
He was my favorite player on the 1984 team, the first good Cubs team I can remember. I always thought of him as a good clutch hitter. As a defensive player, he wasn’t much. He couldn’t run at all. When he got hit by a pitch, he would go out to the mound and tackle the pitcher Texas Longhorn-style. I miss Zonk.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Jun 17, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DB
I think I read somewhere that Zonk was a defensive back for the Longhorns.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's true
I stopped following the Cubs long ago- moving around and expansion finally gave me a home team to follow in high school- but Andre Dawson was my favorite as a kid, and he always will be my favorite.
Every year someone gets to hear my rant about how the Hall of Fame hasn’t voted him in yet. =)
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by kishi on Jun 17, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sosa
made me a Cubs fan.
If I could pick a favorite past Cub and a favorite current Cub, it would Sosa and Z, although Lilly is a close second to Z.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 17, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lilly
I agree. I didn’t put him on the list with the other currents because Big Z, Aram, DLee seem to get the headlines and attetion, but Lilly is probaby my favorite current player.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryne Sandberg was my hero growing up.
I was a product of the 1980’s day-game Cubs on WGN. In the first Cubs game I attended, he homered. He played the game the right way, and from the time I played baseball until now (when I coach it), I try to do the same.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 17, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2
Hitting/Fielding is Sandberg.
Pitching my favorite is Kerry Wood. I always was upset when Cubs would come to NY and play the Mets and he’d be injured. I finally got to see him pitch last year in 2 save opportunities. It was magical at Wrigley hearing everyone chant “Kerry” in the 9th.
by ak123 on Jun 17, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg
but please do not refer to us as “nation.”
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 17, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also who was "crushed" by the news?
I heard the news and said “well duh.”
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, anyone who was surprised by the Sammy news...
…was sailing the river Denial.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sandberg was my personal favorite.
Along with everyone else, he’s the person that made me fall in love with the Cubs. I realize he’s not the greatest Cub to ever play, but my personal favorite because I actually got to watch him.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 17, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My favs are/were
Mark Grace
Ryno
Dawson
Maddux
Mitch Williams (he was one of the coolest guys I ever met in person)
Aramis (so clutch in the regular season)
Sosa
Kerry Wood
Dunston
As a kid playing wiffle ball I could stand and hit just like Grace & Sandberg. My friend would be Big Mac and Canseco. So I think it is all about the era in which you grew up.
by Cubsfan Waveland on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grace
I grew up watching Mark Grace, trying to copy his great swing and prowess at 1st base. Being left-handed like he I wanted my game to mirror his completely. Grace will always be at or near the top of my list!!
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by By Santo's Grace on Jun 17, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sammy Sosa...and it's not even close for me
by cubsnlinux on Jun 17, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because..
Sammy Sosa made the game interesting for me, I couldn’t take my eyes away during his at-bats because every time he was in the batter’s box I felt as if something amazing was going to happen.
I don’t judge ball players by the amount of charity work they do or by how much “classy” they are. I think in every walk of life nothing is more successful than success itself. I like Greg Maddux too, but not because of his class or whatever but what he did on the mound.
To me Sammy Sosa was, still is and forever will be a super hero.
by cubsnlinux on Jun 17, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly's climbing my list
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jun 17, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My sister asked me yesterday who was my favorite player to buy me a jersey and i said Ted.
i think i would be the only one with a ted lilly jersey.
"It’s up to Miles to keep the Cubs alive"
by xene on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats not to love
He’s a hockey player who happens to throw a wicked curve ball, He’s Lenny Dykstra on the mound. I’ll admit I was skeptical when they signed him, thinking a HR pitcher like him would get creamed in Wrigley, but hes been simply amazing and I hope they extend and/or resign him soon.
Overall, Id have to go with Ryno and Grace, they roped me in in the mid 80s
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jun 17, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen
a few Lilly jersey’s at the park, last year.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Love for the '70's
I thought Sutter or Billy Buck might get a vote or two from the late 30/early 40 somethings out there. You either loved that group from the ’60’s or you jumped right into the 80’s.
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
by NashvilleBlue on Jun 17, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not who you think
Dawson is my all time favorite Cub. Maddux is my all time favorite baseball player. I even loved Andre before he was a Cub. He loved kidding bleacher fans when he came to Wrigley. I don’t go to the HOF till he gets in or 2014 ( when
Maddux gets in).
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 17, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was always indifferent to this
whole Steroid crap. The media is sure cashing in on this circus.
Personally I am against Steroids or any PEDs. But that’s not the issue. MLB did not have any effective drug policy for decades. In almost every era, players cheated using different means.
Steroids or not, every player with HOF numbers should be in the HOF period. Create separate eras in the HOF – Spit ball era, Steroid era and so on. If MLB can attest to their drug policy and it’s effectiveness adjust the bar accordingly (HRs, hits etc etc) for the post steroid era. Let a fan decide whether Hank was better than Bonds or not.
If Sammy or Bonds or other worthy players don’t get into the HOF then it will be a shame.
by cubsnlinux on Jun 17, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryne Sandberg
He was partly what got me into the Cubs.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Jake Peavy an option?
Just kidding… But seriously, I only really started following the Cubbies about 4 or 5 years ago so my favorite player would have to be Aramis. It has been a lot of fun to watch him grow and develop into the clutch player that we all know and love today.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
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by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Kenny Powers play for the ficitional Chicago team?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jun 17, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was their flame throwing closer with the mind of a genius and a rocket for an arm.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Jun 17, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should add "Other"
Ron Santo is mine, but the ladies in my house may argue that Soto, DeRosa and even Theriot deserve some love as “favorite” Cub, not necessarily “best” Cub..
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by flachimesa on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to give Billy Buckner some love.
He was my idol growing up. Those bad wheels and he could always hit. It was just a damn shame for a whole career to be marred by one play.
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by KaliCub on Jun 17, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird to see that "Mark DeRosa" is not one of the options :-P
by cubsnlinux on Jun 17, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Almost every one you listed is a good choice.
And I remember back to the Ernie, Billy, Fergie and Ron days quite well.
SO I am declining to vote, and instead just want a few wins in a row.
by MN exile on Jun 17, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because of my era...
I am going to say either Kerry Wood or A-Ram. Although Woody had an injury plagued career, he was the face of the franchise the past few years when he was the only Cub remaining from the 2003 season (Z too). I know we can argue about what we gave up for MB, but Wood was special to Chicago. I always cheer for guys to play their whole career with one team and I wish that could have been Woody. But as for A-Ram, he plays with a swagger and he is clutch without a doubt.
by jmart231 on Jun 17, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have the same difficulty answering this question...
…that I do when someone asks me who my favorite band is. I like different ones for different reasons at different times and it’s hard to pick a favorite.
Growing up, my favorite Cub was Bill Madlock, partly because I “met” him a baseball signing. Since getting back into baseball over the last five or six years…I guess I’d say Big Z. The guy just does it all and has such an entertaining personality. Ted Lilly seems well on his way to becoming an all-time Cubs legend. Aramis, too. I’ve always been a big Sean Marshall booster. Like I said, tough to say.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 17, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where is DeRosa?
HAHAHA…..
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by HIGGY on Jun 17, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not seeing
Ken Reitz on the list.
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
by copes006 on Jun 17, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryno
Probably because he was my favorite growing up as a kid. If I were to have a modern favorite Cub it would probably be Aramis. He’s the kind of guy who just does his job. He doesn’t really complain and doesn’t get himself into a lot of trouble. He just drives in runs like he’s supposed to.
by daeviant on Jun 17, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryno
Surprised that given the demographics of BCB there’s not a few more votes for older players.
Of course, there’s only 100 votes so far, so it would be worth seeing the list once more of the posters have responded…
BTW, getting pumped to hopefully meet Sandberg in Jacksonville when the Smokies travel to play the Suns in July. Bringing my son Ryne to meet his namesake before we fly to Chi for a week
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by The Ryno and I Know on Jun 17, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fergie Jenkins and Billy Williams
I played left field in Little League, so I felt a connection to Billy. And I just loved to watch Fergie pitch.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 17, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Growing up my first favorite Cub was Don Kessinger
But, add me to the list of fans who chose Ryno as all-time favorite. He was the first Cubs great that I was able to watch for his entire career and, to me, he epitomized skill and professionalism.
Others on my list; Rick Monday, Bill Buckner, Larry Biittner, Andre Dawson and Bruce Sutter
by bluekoolaide on Jun 17, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good call on Kessinger
What a fielder! He made for a lot of WGN highlights. His 1618 games at SS are more than any other Cub, ahead of Joe Tinker, Shawon Dunston, and Ernie Banks. I remember once in junior high, one of the choices in a multiple choice quiz was “Kessinger.” I quizzically looked at my teacher and said, “Do you mean #11?” He just smiled and nodded his head. Coolest quiz ever, even if he wasn’t an answer to any of the questions.
"Any old kind of run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse
by MannyTrilloFlipsTo1B on Jun 17, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my favs
no particular order, but i’ll give reasons why:
Mark Grace
I grew up as a lanky blond kid trying to play first base. I had no power and I refused to use batting gloves
Kerry Wood
Kerry was the first big “prospect” i fell in love with and though his flame faded fast through all the injury plagued years, kerry was one of the few guys who really GOT IT with the fans. The more i watched the recent documentaries and things on the Cubs the deeper Kerry’s place in my heart grew. He loved being a Cub and had exactly the type of connection with the organization that fans wish every player had
Greg Maddux
Simply the best and like Kerry… he got it
Mark Prior
I’m sure he isn’t coming up on anyone else’s list, but my love affair with Prior was never tainted by the DL stints or the way things ended. I actually thought the “employee” comment was hilarious and exactly what i’d expect from him. Prior was cocky and when things with his health were spiraling out of control he didn’t understand how to deal with it. That was real to me and that was a competitor who was at a loss for what happened. He sacrificed his arm and likely his career in pitching us to the closest point we’ve been in my lifetime to a championship and EVERY game he was scheduled to pitch was like Christmas. I’ve never been that excited for Cubs games than on days Prior was scheduled to pitch.
I think a lot of the anger directed at Prior is misguided and really misdirected. Most are upset that Prior wasn’t able to stay healthy, but its not his fault…. its not his fault he was abused by Baker. All he did was pitch his tail off whenever he was on the mound and get us… oh so close
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 17, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just realized I've met all my all-time fav Cubs...
Grace, Ryno, Ernie & Williams… and they were all extremely nice and happily obliged to my autograph requests.
My earliest Cubs memory was going to a game where Grace hit a walk-off game winning homer. I was about 7 and bought a Grace button on my way out of the park. We then went to Ed Debevick’s and I recognized Gracie as he walked in and was seated. I approached him during his dinner, not once but twice (I forgot to ask for an autograph the 1st time!) and he was unbelievable nice both times.
Maybe that’s why I love the Cubs so much…
What do I need to show fire for? I'm not a dragon. - Lou Pinella
by smash! on Jun 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sosa and Todd Walker for me.
Free Ronny Cedeno
by Kansas25 on Jun 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aramis for me
Mostly because when he got here I started actually watching games. Before that year, I’d followed them sorta, but b/c I was so young I only knew what I heard on the radio/news or from my grandad.
But when I lost grandad to an Alzheimer’s diagnosis in 2001 and then when he passed in 2003, I started trying following them on my own. And Aramis always seemed to breathe clutch down that stretch run. Course, we all know how that ended, but he’s had me since.
I’d like a lot of players before then… but Aramis…. well, he had me at hello.
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by Allie on Jun 17, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Other"
I voted for Billy Williams, although I was really young when he was with the Cubs. I do have a memory of a 10th inning walk off homer that he hit to right, probably right after Jack Brickhouse said “Any old kind of run wins it!”
My favorite Cub memories, though, are the mid to late 70s teams, with Bruce Sutter, Dave Kingman, Jerry Morales, Jose Cardenal, and the rest of that motley crew. From my moniker, you can see that my favorite of all of them was the immortal Manny Trillo. His all-star year of 1977 was quite a summer!
"Any old kind of run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse
by MannyTrilloFlipsTo1B on Jun 17, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm a 21st century fan
So I went with Z.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 17, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mark DeRosa
kidding. for me, Carlos Big Z El Toro Zambrano
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jun 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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