Return Of The Prodigals: Cubs vs. Indians Preview, Friday 6/19, 1:20 CT
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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This weekend, a former Cub will step onto the field at Wrigley Field, have his name announced, and despite performing well in his time in blue pinstripes, will be completely ignored.
That's right, many people in the crowd assembled at Wrigley today might not even realize that Luis Vizcaino made four appearances in a Cub uniform this past April without allowing a run, before being released and picked up by the Tribe, where he has issued 11 walks in 11 innings of work. Let's hope he keeps up that style of performance if he appears in a game this weekend.
As far as the "other" ex-Cubs on the Cleveland roster, I presume they will get warm and loud ovations on first appearance. Think back to last year when Jim Edmonds made his first appearance in St. Louis as a Cub -- and consider that Cardinal fans were cheering for a player wearing the uniform of their most hated rival. Edmonds received a standing ovation, then it was back to business. I would expect nothing less for Mark DeRosa. He should be cheered when announced, as an acknowledgement of the contributions he made to the Cubs while he was here -- and then I hope he goes 0-for-12 this weekend. He can resume hitting Tuesday when the Indians face the Pirates.
And if Kerry Wood gets into a game this weekend, I hope it will be for the purpose of giving him work because the Indians don't have any situations for him to close.
Now, about acquiring players to help the Cubs' floundering offense, Gordon Wittenmyer says Jim Hendry's still working his cellphone on high speed:
Either way, general manager Jim Hendry is working the prospective trade markets as hard as he does every year and is said to be itching to pull off a deal to help the team, given the opportunity.
Meantime, he says he's not even certain what he'll need come July, depending on how well and quickly third baseman Aramis Ramirez comes back from his shoulder injury and whether Thursday's late offensive fireworks are a sign of good things to come.
"For me to say either way in the middle of June makes no sense," Hendry said. "We could be in the market for a player we never even dreamed of a month from now if somebody else got hurt or somebody really went into a tailspin. You just kind of stay on top of it every day and react to what you may need or may help.
"Some of the deals we've made were not on the radar screen a week before we made them."
I assume that last sentence refers, in part, to the Rich Harden deal made last July -- that one seemed to come out of nowhere. And maybe he doesn't have to go any farther this weekend than the visiting clubhouse to make a deal. Just sayin'.
Oh, and for a change, there's a forecast of rain this afternoon, and there could be severe storms.
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Cliff Lee faced the Cubs the last time these teams met in interleague play, in Cleveland on June 20, 2006. (Boxscore provided for amusement purposes. Check out the Cub lineup.) Against current Cubs he has done pretty well; he has allowed homers to Milton Bradley and Alfonso Soriano but otherwise handled those players. He's coming off a near no-hitter against the Cardinals in his last start last Sunday, but often pitchers who are doing that, or coming off no-hitters, don't do well in their next outing. Just ask Carlos Zambrano about that.
Rich Harden posted a 1-0, 3.27 record in five appearances (four starts) vs. the Indians during his time in the American League. The last time he faced them was June 25, 2007, and a lot of those players are either gone from the Tribe or won't play today. Only Travis Hafner has had success vs. Harden among active members of the Indians, and that's a small-sample-size 2-for-4 (a double, a HR, 5 RBI and 4 walks), and Hafner, who hasn't played the field in two years, likely will only pinch-hit in this series.
Today's game is on cable only -- CSN Chicago and STO (Sports Time Ohio). One thing I don't like about STO is that they don't keep the scorebox up all the time. Both feeds should be available on EI today. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Overflow comment threads will post today at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT.
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GO CUBS!!!
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There ARE severe storms indeed
It’s really bad downtown. There’s some flooding on the corner of Orleans and Huron. The firemen are on the scene. My satellite uplink for work is down. However, the radar shows this’ll pass and the next round is moving north of the city.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's still raining really, really hard on the north side.
The radar I see shows moderate to heavy rain all the way back to west of Rockford — probably at least three more hours of this.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Weather Channel
Seems to thing that the storms will be tapering off right around game time, and a new bunch will show up around 5. Hope they’re right.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radars show...
… clearing behind the line at Rockford. Might clear out by early afternoon and give them a window to play.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't KNOW that Vizcaino will be announced today
But after the way he pitched on Monday, I hope he is.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I did say "this weekend"
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1 to me
I still hope they knock Cliff Lee out early
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On that, we agree 100%
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I get a "HAIL Yeah" for the Cubs today?
Yep, getting some pebble-sized hail up here near Wrigley…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 19, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Hail up by my place was golf ball size
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 19, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we play, then we play
If its rained out, there is a good shot at getting another Aramis game. WIn,win
Unless we lose today.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jun 19, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I posted in the other thread about this...
… if today’s game is rained out, I think we’re looking at a doubleheader tomorrow. The Cubs and Indians have ONE common off day — September 10.
Playing on 9/10 would require the Cubs to play 34 days in a row, since they are already giving up their 9/3 off day to play Tuesday’s rainout. There’s no way anyone would approve playing that many days in a row.
They’ll try to get this one in, but it looks like we have at least 3 hours more of heavy rain coming through.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're rained out AGAIN....
we may need to just do another Cleveland Spiders game. I can’t take another crappy day with no game.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go right ahead!
Have fun with it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A double header could be fun
Seems like the Cubs have been very against that this season with rainouts, though that could just be in my own head.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day night doubleheader Al, or a REAL doubleheader?
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A real DH.
There’s no way they could schedule a day-night DH on this short notice.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. Miht be worth driving in from Michigan for and seeing if we could pick up tickets!
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miht=Might
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss those
I understand all the reasons against them, but as a fan, every once in a while, it’s fun.
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 19, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do they stop beer sales after the 7th inning of Game 1
And resume them again after the first game concludes?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
I’m going to the game tomorrow.
Let’s play 2!
by salparadise23 on Jun 19, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I'd like to have a game today
With tickets for tomorrow, I won’t be too disappointed in a DH tomorrow.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
What a lucky break if true considering I only go to 5 games a year.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 19, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our family came to a game last year and it POURED about three hours before gametime...
The dugout flooded and we thought there was NO WAY the game would ever be played. We were staying at the Majestic Hotel (about a half mile east of the ballpark) and the hotel owner and I were standing under the front awning watching the deluge. As we saw water pour down the street, a rat ran out of the lower level of the hotel and scurried away to dry land. Foreboding?
Despite all that, the game was played that night…
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's start some rotation speculation
It’s boring we have to do something. If the rain forces a DH tomorrow the Cubs need a 6th starter, they can obviously give Marshall the start but that makes him unavalailable out of the BP for 8 days or more ( had to rest before and after) or you can bring up Shark, Atkins etc for the start which probablky means sending Waddell down for 10 days. Not sure what I prefer.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 19, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Shark developed another pitch?
I didn’t think he was ready for anything but pullpen use at this point.
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 19, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you meant bullpen
but with only one and a half pitches he could be a grenade. :-)
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 19, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since Waddell is on the DL
you’ll have to pick someone else to send down. I would say just cut Miles, that’ll open a roster spot.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOPs Guess they better use Marshall
Need position players but then no lefty in BP. Would hate to send Ascanio down.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 19, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, cutting Miles should happen whether or not the Cubs call anyone up...
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick Question
Al – this is a great blog. I read a lot of the sportsnation blogs and this is one of the best. Congrats.
I have a question for you Cubs fans – is there anyway to find out if the wind is blowing out or in today?
by njnick on Jun 19, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
See the attached weather link
Don’t believe it’s accurate right now, but a prediction for gametime.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
www.weather.com works, too
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what it be Mr. Badger.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so if the wind is blowing out to right would that lead you to believe that there will be more homeruns
or is it a higher scoring game if the wind is blowing out to left?
by njnick on Jun 19, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really depends on the lineup
Usually, there are more RH’s in lineups, so LF would tend to make sense. But guys can hit them to RF, like Lee did yesterday.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess a camera would if it showed the flags.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks better than it did about an hour ago...
Less green skies and more gray…
by lswaidz on Jun 19, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the radar and the movement in the last 2 hours
I think there’s a decent chance they start by 2, if not actually on time.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually on site...
There’s thunderstorms rolling past, but it’s much better than 30 minutes ago.
by Damen Jackson on Jun 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else besides me NOT want DeRosa back?
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have to have DeRosa, but
want a quality player to play third and back up corner outfield spots and first.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
calling Not Bruce Fremming.....
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will ask. Why NOT DeRosa?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather
the Cubs get Freddy Sanchez or Aubrey Huff, if they’re going to get anybody.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understood, but I'd rather is not NOT
wanting him back, but preferring someone else.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think that he's extremely overrated by many here.
Yes, he’s having another above average season. Not great, but above average. But lets remember one thing: in this lineup, he would probably have about half the run production totals he currently does in Cleveland. And also, remember that we got three young, good pitching prospects in the trade. We didn’t simply throw him away for nothing. Yes, he would be helpful right now with the loss of Ramirez. But you’re telling me there’s nobody else that wouldn’t be just as helpful, probably better defensively, and wouldn’t be a guy we just traded away? Not to mention the fact that we would probably have to give up more than they did for him.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You say...
“You’re telling me there’s nobody else that wouldn’t be just as helpful, probably better defensively”
So who? Who else can we get that doesn’t have a bloated contract, is on the market, and could be had without sacrificing our already depleted farm or current roster?
Forget that he ever played for the Cubs, what he has to offer now is exactly what we need.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 19, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Half the run production totals"?
On what do you base that statement?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His math may be off, but the lack of baserunners in front would
reduce the RBI count by mucho.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be second on the team in HR.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, just more would be solos.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, RBI's are pretty easy to base that on.
look at the rest of this offense, and it’s easy to see the DeRosa wouldn’t be anywhere near his RBI totals. Half was probably an overstatement, I concede.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's futile, ARob1
I’ve never seen anything like this in the 40 years I’ve been a Cubs fan. And totally out of proportion to boot.
I liked DeRosa, too, and thought he played well here. But enough is enough.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one blowing it out of proportion is you.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come off it, Al
You’re one of the ones stoking the fire almost nonstop on this site. It’s your site, you can do what you want. But I think if you go back and look, I haven’t started ONE DeRosa thread, or fanpost, or conversation. Not a one.
Quit being so disingenuous. If DeRo were getting a parade today, you’d be the grand marshal.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't start it, but you blow it out of proportion
You react like someone is saying Voldemort every time the name is mentioned.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like the U.S. blasting heavy metal
at Noriega until he finally cracked. You can only take so much.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can never get enough metal!
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 19, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget DeRo
I miss ’80s hair bands.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take some 80s Metalica or Megadeath anyday
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 19, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid stuff
Was just listening to “Cryptic Writings” by Metallica the other day (I know it’s not from the ’80s, but …). Good stuff.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dero sells, but whos buying?
"It’s up to Miles to keep the Cubs alive"
by xene on Jun 19, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now this
almost made me fall out of my chair with laughter. Well played.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can kick Miles out
with an early wakeup call and a bus ticket.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Megadeth
Thanks for the correction. Dave Mustaine might strangle me if he ever found out. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because no reasonable person could be expected to
- read through a comment and reply based on it’s content
- ignore ones they don’t like
- turn the computer off
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you can say that
about at least half the people on BCB.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I don't disagree
That’s analogous to, “Billy gets to go”, or, “She started it”
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm not saying it's ideal
But such a[[ears tp be the law of the jungle on the Interwebs, I’m afraid.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's "appears"
my touch-typing isn’t all that good anymore.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth be told, I think the sentiment does get over the top about a lot of Cubs
But I don’t think it’s as bad here as you make it out to be.
Anyway, he’s gone and I don’t think he’s coming back — but they could use someone with versatility, and Miles isn’t the guy.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXELLLIARMUS!
The problem is, that since DeRosa was traded earlier this year, people view other people wanting him back as emotional, rather than logical.
Personally, he was one of my favorite Cubs. I’d be happy to see him back. I’d be happy to see someone else with his production back.
I don’t know who that person is, other than him.
But I don’t see it actually happening…
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::grinds teeth::
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget, Drew,
the cemeteries are full of people who can’t be replaced.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
what does THAT have to do with anything? Look, I tend to agree with your base argument — that DeRosa isn’t coming back — but really, this is becoming your windmill.
If DeRosa could be gotten without giving up too much, that would be fine. Doesn’t matter if he’d played for the Cubs last year or not, just like it didn’t matter that Edmonds had played for the Cardinals. All that matters is his production, and if he can maintain it.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means there are
other fish in the sea. It’s not DeRo or nothing.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one's saying that....
… not even me. I was the first to say, get Freddy Sanchez. Aubrey Huff is an interesting option.
But IN MY OPINION, DeRosa is the best fit.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's fine.
If there’s someone better, then get him. I’m not entirely sure there’s someone better.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only difference between this and the Brian Roberts / Jake Peavy stuff
…is that you’re the one who’s constantly bringing it up Al.
You posted countless times annoyed that people kept mentioning those names. Now you’re getting mad when people are doing the same to you.
The biggest difference between those situations and now, ironically, is that the Cubs were actually actively trying to bring those players to Chicago.
by Wreckard on Jun 19, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly correct
I posted the same sentiment earlier in the thread.
More than once, Al has tried to bait me into a DeRo argument. Of course, I took it hook, line and sinker (idiot that I am).
If he’s trying to generate interest and posts, more power to him. But at least be honest about it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His contract is up, he's getting old,
and he was liked and liked playing here. All add up to a possible guy to add to this roster.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing, I liked him too.
I was pleasantly surprised by his high level of play while he was here. I just wish all these BCBers would get over it.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch out
Half the population of this site will be down your throat in an instant if you keep preaching that heresy.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just you ;)
-Charlemagne
"Cubs Win!" "Yes, Sir!" - Pat and Ron, June 12, 2008, Walk off HBP, bottom of the 11th
by Charlemagne on Jun 19, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People have given their reasons for why...
They DO want him back. Why don’t you want him back? Do you feel we are fine with Fontenot at 3rd and Miles/Blanco at 2nd?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 19, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drom Carrie Muskat
Jake Fox is in the starting lineup at third base for the Cubs. It’ll be LF Soriano, SS Theriot, RF Bradley, 1B Lee, C Soto, 3B Fox, CF Johnson, 2B Blanco and P Harden.
“The young man swings the bat and we have to find a place for him,” Lou Piniella said of Fox, who has made one start this season and that was in right field.
And Mark DeRosa is in the Indians lineup, batting second and starting in left field.
— Carrie Muskat
"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 19, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a little harsh; I mean she's not a good writer, but droming her?
;-)
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you want dromed too?
"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 19, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps she stores water in her hump?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Blanco at second! Well, that means the right side of the infield is well protected…
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting to see a line of blue sky over Woodstock
that seems to be headed in the right direction for a game.
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What time does Hendrix play the anthem?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woodstock, IL
We are the home of the movie Groundhog Day.
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, but the combination of a storm passing and the sun starting to
peek through in Woodstock made me smile.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just figured I should explain
for those who don’t live in the Chgo area
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good news!
And radars show rain should be out of here in about an hour. They may be able to start by 2 or so.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will the stadium still be at 1060 W.
or will it have drifted in the flooding.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you a report from the deck of the ark.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a big ark... holds about 41,000
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Jun 19, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's only 20,500 pairs, two-by-two...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does it have
green alligators and long-necked geese, some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees?
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're not going to see a unicorn
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully later today in the game threads...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's why you won't see Matt Murton in LF
to this very day….
by salparadise23 on Jun 19, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have fun in the LF Bleachers
Cleveland’s Lineup:
1. Carroll, 2B
2. DeRosa, LF
3. Martinez, 1B
4. Choo, RF
5. Peralta, 3B
6. Shoppach, C
7. Valbuena, SS
8. Francisco, CF
9. Lee, P
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
VMart is playing 1B?
Anybody with Indians knowledge can tell me why? Thank you.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be because Garko got hurt Wednesday night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he was playing 1B
before the Garko injury. I thought it was because of Shoppach “breakout” season last year, 21 HR.
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by tony412 on Jun 19, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because of that, too.
I think it’s more about sharing time between Garko and Shoppach, truthfully. The Garko injury just happens to be incidental to this.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus Martinez had an injury-filled year last season so less time behind the plate means less wear and tear
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 19, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you all
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been playing 1B about half the time this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And regularly there since 2006.
He’s one of their franchise players, gotta preserve those knees.
by Wreckard on Jun 19, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kelly Shoppach always catches Cliff Lee,
and Victor Martinez almost always plays 1B. (He occasionally DHs, but he obviously can’t do that today.)
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Jun 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
34 games at 1b, 32 games at C, 2 at DH
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Jun 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope DeRosa makes a key error, and goes 0-4 with 4 K's.
And everyone here would probably try to claim he did it on purpose to help the Cubs. He’s just that mighty.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that was a well-reasoned, intelligent argument.
You’re going to make a lot of friends here.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 19, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man Shanghai Badger.
And I so badly wanted to be your friend!
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to troll or anything.
I made a somewhat snarky comment, I admit that. I just think the idea of making friends on a message board is stupid.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool
After yesterday, I’m hoping things calm down around here. I for one have decided to hold my tongue a bit more often.
by elgato on Jun 19, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened yesterday? I wasn't in the gamethreads.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of nastiness
before the Cubs rallied.
by elgato on Jun 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not surprising
glad i missed it.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 19, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read through some of it
To put it into perspective, there was no Jump link posted in OT1, and there was even a reverse Jump link posted in OT2.
I’ve seen worse, though.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a reverse Jump?
frakking hybrids…
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reverse jump only happens when the machines become self-aware.
You’ve been warned.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 19, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are all my best friends.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BFF...
or is it BFD? I can never get those two straight…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 19, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SWL & Ballhawk BFF
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols: Now, calm down, little buddy.
Miles: [shivers]
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't you glad you use Dial?
Don’t you wish everybody did?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you the one who's mom was assaulted by DrCrawdad's
WS ring?
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
she never made it back from his house last night.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe Al doesn't ban that guy for making comments like that.
Saying your mom was a hooker who he pimpslapped?
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made the hooker comment...he alluded that it was my mom...
we’re both old enough to know better. I’m over it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 weeks on the site
Already pondering who you think should be banned. LOL
After 2+ years I don’t state who I think should… maybe I should start.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 19, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just surprised Al is against namecalling,
but ok with someone talking about using a world series ring to slap another man’s hooker mother.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, how's that IGNORE feature coming?
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Jun 19, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Progress is slow
They keep ignoring it
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 19, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you calling SWL's mom a hooker?
Maybe you should be bannnnnnnnnt
/sarcasm
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 19, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this user was banned and re-joined
Seems to know too much about oldtimers.
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Jun 19, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's said
he was a two-year reader.
Could it be ARAM returned?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't make that claim.
But I do hope he goes 0-for-12 in the series.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Question
Do they ever announce Wrigley as “sold out”
I heard some stat about Fenway selling out for the umpteenth time and it made me realize I never hear about Wrigley being sold out.
Does it not sell out (hard to believe) or do they just not track it?
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 19, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure.
For most games they have some single seats unsold.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Pat likes to say
“Capacity crowd here tonight, Ronnie!”
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie: "Yeah".
Silence.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
Because it’s so true.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 19, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still love him though...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heck
that’s WHY I love him. He’s not the best color man in the league for nothing, folks!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excited to see what J. Fox does today
Also, is anyone else hoping that the game gets delayed about four hours — so we can watch it after work?
by elgato on Jun 19, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No!
I want to listen to it on the train today.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 19, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
My husband is going. We are leaving for vacation when he gets home so I hope it is sooner rather than later.
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did your other name get banned or something?
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the person you are thinking of.
kerrysotherwife is NOT “Kowlady”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, ok. Just a coincidence then I guess.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For just joining in June of this year
you seem to know a lot about some of the older users. Were you banned and re-incarnated as ARob1?
Or am I missing something?
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Jun 19, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been reading the site for a while, never joined.
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the story you're sticking to, huh?
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Jun 19, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you obviously have it all figured out, Sherlock, so why
don’t you tell me the rest of the story?
by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for clarifying Al
Should I change my name? I wasn’t around for this KOW thing, but whoever it was doesn’t sound like they were very well liked. I hate to have people think that has something to do with me.
by katie casey on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might not hurt.
Email me if you want to discuss.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with this
I’m off for the weekend. :-)
Train to South Bend, carpool to Indy, hanging out with my godparents for the next couple days.
Go Cubs!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have a great trip!
Hope there are a few more wins waiting for you upon your return.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jun 19, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have a good trip
My uncle was a train buff, and we’d sometimes take the South Shore Line to South Bend. It was pretty cool back in the day.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still a nice ride...
Unfortunately the line ends at the South Bend Airport, which is a pretty useless spot unless you have to catch a plane.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jun 19, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Didn’t it use to end in downtown SB? I seem to remember the train tracks going down the middle of the street. Or maybe that was in Michigan City.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I understand...
…it did used to end in downtown SB, but that was long before I was born. The tracks still run down the street in Michigan City, though.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jun 19, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He trained in the buff? Ouch!
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well,
my uncle was the odd duck of the family (hard to believe, considering I’m in the family, too).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our building on Lake and Michigan
was instructed to stay away from the windows earlier this morning. Gusts of up to 70 MPH and softball size hail warnings…
I really want to watch a game!
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Channel 7 reported that there was a microburst on the North Side this morning
I can just imagine…
Ron: “Pat, do those flags look like they’re blowing in or our to you?”
Pat: “Well Ronnie, I’d say they’re blowing… um… downwards.”
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano sliding on infield tarp this morning
Anyone see that pic?
Don’t have a link, but go to the Trib website and click on the “Storm Pics”. First one is Z doing a belly flop on the tarp.
Thought Cubs mangement frowned on that sort of thing.
by JFCubFan on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They should frown on it.
Knew a guy who was paralyzed while tarp sliding in college.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
That is some bad luck.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 19, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that's real smart.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 19, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially since he's only paid to PITCH.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And HIT.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but not slide?
SLIDING IS FUNDAMENTAL BASEBALL!
Except for Ted Lilly.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly doesn't slide.
The earth moves beneath him.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a perfect day for this song:
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's always a perfect day
for anything by the greatest power trio of all time.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit, forgot to set my DVR.
Went home for lunch and completely forgot to.
by kanderber on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you do it online?
Worse comes to worst, you can always watch the archived game at MLB.TV.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DirectTV allows you to set DVR online
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Jun 19, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weather question...
I’m coming up for the Brewers series July 2-4… should I worry about the rain? It’s been so much this year. Although its currently 101 in Tallahassee so I would love to see rain.
On to today… is the tarp still on? I’ve been trying to find the webcam of Wrigley.
Make it happen baby: Cubs, Jaguars, FSU, Jazz, Thrashers.
by camnorris14 on Jun 19, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's impossible to say this far out what the weather will be
But considering how spring/summer has been so far in Chicago, rain wouldn’t be out of the question.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if this has been discussed
but did anyone else notice Lee only saw four pitches in four ABs yesterday? That’s gotta be rather rare.
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by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the Cubs? not rare.
However, having a successful day in 4 pitches is very rare.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the Trib's baseball blog
While no official announcements have been made, you can be assured the Cubs game against the Indians at Wrigley Field will not start on time.
Schedule start is 1:20 p.m. and it is still raining just before 1 p.m. A good gauge to determine start time is one half-hour after it stops raining. That’s the time grounds crews need to ready the field.
I’m sure you can find the link and understand that I have a moral problem with linking to them.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh?
you’ll read it, you’ll copy it, you’ll post it but you won’t link to it?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 19, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I get these things through the AP wire. Thusly, I seldom have to click on the Trib’s site. For the sake of credibility, here it is.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
moral problem?
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by tony412 on Jun 19, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He most likely works for the sun times?
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by xene on Jun 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
am i dreaming or is Jake Fox playing third base?
offen$e plea$e wake up
by lexmarklover on Jun 19, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al? AL??? Yoo Hoo!!!
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 19, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Radio just said the game probably won't start till 2:30
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 19, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that...
the Cubs MLB homepage had an article up talking about Lilly starting today, with the fancy title picture and all. They’ve since fixed it I guess.
It had me perplexed for a while and wondering if my Yahoo Fantasy page was lying to me…
(I realize that was a rivoting story. Sorry. I’m bored :))
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 19, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would say
“If a Ted Lilly picture pops up where it shouldn’t be you’ll receive good fortune” but, quite honestly, there’s no place where Ted Lilly’s picture shouldn’t be.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an excellent point.
:) I think I’ll go buy a lottery ticket.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 19, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judd Sirott continues to annoy the crud out of me
What professional journalist begins every question of a player with “How much did X help you going forward?”, including (today), asking Milton Bradley how much he was helped going forward by having thrown the ball into the stands with only 2 outs?
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
by dfrancon on Jun 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
rofl...
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - Any help appreciated
Just graduated from Navy Boot Camp today and need 4 tickets for the game tomorrow (6/20). Looking for best tickets available Please help! adamgoetz@gmail.com I am in Gurnee today and will be downtown tomorrow. Thanks everyone!
Posted at Ticket Exchange page as well.
"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella
by Lou In Blue on Jun 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tarp is being pulled off the field...
Per Sirott.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 19, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
I’d rather not see Z pull a Vince Coleman out there.
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by hip2bsquare on Jun 19, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a Zurrito
get it?
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by tony412 on Jun 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what that means in Spanish?!
I spat my Coke reading it! Kudos!
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please fill us in
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
twss
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A play on the word "zurrar"
which can mean to beat up, or, alternatively, to defecate in a violent, loud and obnoxious manner.
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by chilango2 on Jun 19, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe this is specific to Mexico
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by tony412 on Jun 19, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did everyone else see this?
Speaking of pulling tarp of the field, this is AWESOME!
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/06/18/cincinnati-reds-ground-crew-worker-is-a-disturbingly-hazardous/
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our groundscrew can kick their groundcrew's ass!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm about a mile west of Wrigley
The rain has stopped and the sky is getting lighter
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 19, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
God loves day baseball at Wrigley.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sure got enough to make up...
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on Jun 19, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, maybe not today.
Once things clear up it’ll be sunny, 90-ish degrees with a dewpoint in the mid-to-high 70s. I’d rather not have any Cubs getting a heat stroke, thanks.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jun 19, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tarps off. Squeegees at work...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Slightly early for the actual first pitch
But the FPT is up. Jump! (if you wanna)
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 19, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake Fox starting at 3B... our management is killin me.
They call him up, Trammell works with him to play 3B, and all he isn’t ready, so they just give him pinch-hut duties. Then, they send him back down to AAA, and instead of playing 3B, he plays 1B and DH for 4 games. Now, they bring him back up, and he’s starting at 3B today.
Is it possible to jerk this guy around anymore than what they’re doing?
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 19, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Technically yes, but is see what your getting at.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 19, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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