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Rain Delay DeRosa and Wood interviews

make it even more obivous how bad it is to let these guys go.

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Winning is about more than numbers.  Listen to DeRosa - its about liking the other guys, rooting for your teammates, caring who is up and who "steps up" day in and day out.  162 games is a marathon, and 25 guys spending 7 months together become a familiy.

These are clearly two guys who love this team, love this town, and "get" what it means to be a Cub.  And oh, by the way, the performed well, better than the guys in their place.

Great job, Jim.

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Boo Frickin Hoo

Cry me a river.

If you want Wood so bad, pay him the $10M per yourself.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 19, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

wood woulda taken a pay cut to be on the Cubs

thats whats so painful about it

Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 19, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is terrible

not to mention factually untrue on the Wood vs. Gregg comparison

by neifi on Jun 19, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I like that approach..

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Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 19, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You want DeRo?

Say hello to Jake Fox, Mr. Versatility.

by zam on Jun 19, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Right

not in this lifetime

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If by "gets what it means to be a Cub",

You mean making crucial errors and grounded into double plays in potentially game-changing situations during the postseason, then DeRosa definitely gets it.

by Jody Jody Davis on Jun 19, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

At least

He helped get us there.

by zam on Jun 19, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

now your just trying to find a way to make it ok

That we made such a dumb move in getting rid of DeRo

Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 19, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

how do you know it was bad?

have the three young arms retired? until we see them and what they do in the coming years, the trade cannot be traded (like Dontrell Willis for example)

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 20, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

BAM!

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on Jun 19, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're the one who needs to get a clue.

Let me guess, you’re looking at ERA, and only ERA, and saying Gregg is better? That’s pretty dumb.

by kanderber on Jun 19, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like take a look at some stats then buddy.

They’re both closers, right? Wood has 8 saves, Gregg has 8. Gregg also has a marginally better Strikeout to Walk ratio, 2.31 to Wood’s 2.08. Most of their other stats are pretty similar, and Wood has allowed 4.66 runs per 9, as opposed to Greggs 3.99.

How in the world could you say, based on statistics, or anything else for that matter, that Wood has performed better?

by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The amount of revisionist history

going on here today by DeRo and now Wood supporters is breathtaking.

I absolutely loved Kerry Wood. But every pitch could be his last. And he’s put this franchise through too much already, always waiting for him to recover from whatever is ailing him.

Hail and farewell, both to him and DeRo.

I think a lot of the problem is that fans think if the Cubs left everything intact, they would have won 97 games again this season. They probably wouldn’t have, particularly when you consider how they won some of those games last season.

Hence, the romance of it rather than the reality.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 19, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

see Im ok with the Wood move

It is more sentimental that I wish he was on the Cubs.. but the DeRo move.. not so much, talking strictly baseball.. that was a really really dumb move. Especially since we don’t have a real backup in most of the positions on the field, BECAUSE he was the backup everywhere.

Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 19, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was actually looking at the wrong line...

So you got me. But still, they’ve both been pretty mediocre this year, with Gregg having a higher WHIP but a lower ERA.

by kanderber on Jun 19, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying they haven't both been mediocre.

When the OP tried to claim that Wood had performed better is what got me.

And also, consider that Gregg is performing somewhat better at a MUCH lower pricetag. It’s a no brainer.

by ARob1 on Jun 19, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're missing the point

Success in baseball is about more than stats. After all, why did we have 97 wins and one of, if not the, most productive offenses in baseball last year, then lose in the first round, 3 and out? Where are you stats to explain that?

And BTW when I said “performed” better, I was referring to their performance when they were Cubs, not this year. Wood and DeRo helped lead a team o 97 wins. So far Gregg et el have helped lead the team to 1 game above 500. Theres your stat.

by CalDeano on Jun 19, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

stinkin thinkin

If it’s Gregg’s fault the Cubs are playing .500 ball, is it DeRo’s and Wood’s fault that the Indians are ten games under .500?

by lookingdeadred on Jun 20, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many earned runs...

…a pitcher yields is a pretty good indicator of their effectiveness, don’t ya think?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really for relievers

Though for closers it isn’t as bad since they’re less likely to be given inherited runners. There’s still better stats out there to indicate a reliever’s effectiveness.

by Wreckard on Jun 19, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually No, I don't

ERA is a lousy way to measure a relievers effectiveness. One bad outing can explode a relievers ERA and it will take months to get it down to a respectable level.

by lookingdeadred on Jun 20, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeRo

is missed on the field. Wood not so much, even though I always liked Woody.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 19, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

+1

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 20, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

So anyway...do those shorts look dorky or what?

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Jun 20, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

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