For The Cubs' Next Act, Let's Get A Win For Randy Wells: Cubs vs. Indians Preview, Sunday 6/21, 1:20 CT
by Al on Jun 21, 2009 10:00 AM CDT
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Happy Father's Day to all BCB dads, including mine. I'll have my son with me at the game today.
If the Cubs win today and the Brewers and Cardinals lose, the Cubs will have the fewest losses in the NL Central. Further, if the Phillies also lose, only the Dodgers will have fewer losses in the entire National League. This bodes well for contention not only for the division title, but for the wild card (current leader: the Brewers).
Much as I thought the firing of Gerald Perry and hiring of Von Joshua was window dressing and an attempt to show the Cubs were "doing something, anything" about the hitting slump -- Bruce Miles talked to Joshua recently and maybe there IS something to changing the approach:
"We like to work the count and make the pitcher work," Von said. "But as we all know, you get some of these guys like (Cliff) Lee or some of these guys get ahead, if they throw strike one, a fastball strike one, it’s bad if you pop it up. It’s great if you square it up. You only get three strikes.
"It’s a twofold. You like to see them work the count, but if they groove that fastball, square it up. A lot of guys will say, ‘It was on the outer third of the plate.’ Well, square it up to the opposite field and try and go the other way. It’s still the fastball. I cannot stand to see guys take a fastball for a strike."
It sounds a little scary, almost Dusty Baker-like, to be too overaggressive. On the other hand, Joshua has been on the job less than a week and you can already see guys doing this, and at the same time, most of the Cubs have been having better at-bats. Whatever it is, let's hope it continues.
And if you missed this on Baseball Tonight last night, Mike emailed me this:This is the first time that there have been three consecutive walkoffs by anyone since 1998, and the first time for the Cubs since 1946.
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Jeremy Sowers is a soft-tossing lefty -- the Cubs usually have trouble with guys like this (think of him as a poor man's Doug Davis). However, Sowers has a 5.14 ERA this year, which matches his career ERA, and has walked 17 in 35 innings. He has never faced the Cubs, and the handful of Cubs (Reed Johnson, Milton Bradley and Andres Blanco) who faced him in their AL time are a combined 0-for-8 against him. So the bottom line is -- who knows?
Randy Wells is coming off his worst start to date as a major leaguer. It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to that, especially against a good-hitting team like the Indians. He has never faced them nor anyone on their current roster.
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Let's get a sweep!
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jun 21, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets Get a sweep
Love going to work on Monday knowing the Cubs have won.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jun 21, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good matchups today in Cub land.
We’ve got Wells (2.55 ERA) vs Sowers (5.14 ERA). Although… every game with our rotation is a good matchup (as you hear me say quite often these days)! And, every game for Cleveland is a bad matchup with the league’s worst pitching staff.
Cardinals got Wainright (3.33) vs Meche (3.31). Meche is on fire right now. He’s only given up 1 run this month in 3 starts, with a CG shutout his last time out.
Brewers got Gallardo (2.93) vs Verlander (3.39). Verlander through a CG vs the White Sox two starts ago in a 2-1 win.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 21, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Which means we get to miss Verlander this week in Detroit
YES!
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jun 21, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was kinda hoping to see him pitch in person this week against the Cubs, but so be it...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 21, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny that
lots of people gave Hendry crap for signing Lilly. He was basically a .500 pitcher when he came over to the Cubs. Meche was in the same off season class of free agents and he’s turned out to be pretty good too.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 21, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of jh's best signings
there were two other big name arms that year. both have had, uhhhhh…, limited success
by tim815 on Jun 21, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweep would be sweet!
How’s the rain forecast in Chicago? We had about 3 hours of rain in Des Moines with more for this afternoon.
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jun 21, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Cubs,
Score first and score often.
Thanks!
by sue369 on Jun 21, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FUN FACT
Second city: The Cubs became only the second team since the 1975 Reds to win consecutive games in which they trailed by at least four runs. They beat the White Sox 6-5 on Thursday after trailing 5-1 and the Indians 8-7 on Friday after trailing 7-0.
The other team to do it, according to Elias Sports Bureau, was the 2005 Yankees.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 21, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Only 6 teams ever to do this too!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
by mrcubsfan on Jun 21, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
elias must be wrong
joe morgan was on the 1975 reds. i’m certain his teams never got down by four runs.
by tim815 on Jun 21, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just checkin' in from scenic Door County, Wis.
The Cubs are 2-0 since I got here, so I am prepared to stay as long as necessary to ensure continuous victory. Ecstatic about the consistently good starting pitching combined with DLee’s nuclear power surge. Feel just a little bad for Woody – but not bad enough to give back either of the wins.
Hope Cubs hitters show patience vs. Sowers today – stay back on his pitches and hit them hard. Also hope Wells has a redemption start after his last outing. I’ll be wearing out my cell phone battery keeping tabs on the game.
Go Cubs!
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 21, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you have time
take the ferry to Washington island. Very cool place.
by JFCubFan on Jun 21, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright a lefty
Hopefully Milton can feast off him. Speaking of which, he’s clearly better right handed, I wonder how he would do strictly as a right hander
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jun 21, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that defeats his purpose in hendrys eyes though
by jesus christos on Jun 21, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to do play by play for the game today
but I just got three bleacher tickets! My first game of the year, and I get to go with my family!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 21, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesomeness
We’ll try to pick up the slack for ya. Have fun at the game!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 21, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells is due.
Make it so, Cubs.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 21, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: I heard this guy do a eulogy at a funeral in LA (about 15+ yrs ago).
Best eulogy I ever heard. I was only friends with the daughter of the guy who died and I found it very moving.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Jun 21, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's getem today boys and girls!
I’ve timed my drive back to Des Moines to coincide with the Cubs game. Hopefully I don’t drive off the road.
Can you imagine what it would be like to be on the road with Santo driving during a Cubs game?
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
by IowaCubs- on Jun 21, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember the SNL sketch where Dana Carvey (as Ross Perot)
is driving with Ret. Adm. Jim Stockdale (his VP candidate)?
Perot stops the car and asks him to look at something in the adjacent field. When Stockdale gets out to investigate, Perot slams the car door, floors it and ditches the poor fellow by the side of the road.
Why does this sketch come to mind after driving 3 hours in a car with Ronnie while listening to a Cubs game? (and don’t misunderstand me, I love Santo dearly, but I can see where this situation might test anyone’s fortitude…)
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 21, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
quick --
someone tell me where the best place to park is!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 21, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubber side down...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 21, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chucrh parking lot on west side of Halsted four blocks south of Irving Park
If you had to choose just one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humor.
by Clutche on Jun 21, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish this guy were a righty
After the day Dome had, plus the fact that he brings a lot of patience to the plate, I’d like to see him starting again.
But against a lefty, it’s not going to happen.
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 21, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, when we get into their bull-pen, Dome can come in!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 21, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright!
Off to the game! GO CUBS GO!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 21, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Going to the game today!
Hopefully this will bring my record back to 500!
by desmoCubbie on Jun 21, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Guzman to the DL
just saw it on the ESPN. not sure who is called up.
by TJ3117 on Jun 21, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Hart is called up from Iowa
"The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love." ~Bryant Gumbel
by gwl17 on Jun 21, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This also might be in response to
the heavy bullpen usage the last few days, plus the prospect of no days off for a while.
Might as well give Guzman enough time to get completely healthy, plus get a fresh arm in the pen.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 21, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart called up
In response to the Guzman on the DL.
I think he was very underrated and hopefully will be back shortly. His presence will be missed.
by ak123 on Jun 21, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what's that i smell?
i know i smell something. oh, yeah, that’s it.
we’re showcasing hart.
by tim815 on Jun 21, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the lineup
Soriano
Theriot
Bradley
Lee
Soto
Fox
Fukudome
Blanco
Wells
offen$e plea$e wake up
by lexmarklover on Jun 21, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's Cleveland's lineup
J. Carroll, 2B
M. DeRosa, LF
V. Martinez, C
S. Choo, RF
J. Peralta, 3B
L. Valbuena, SS
C. Gimenez, 1B
B. Francisco, CF
J. Sowers, P
"Believe or leave."
by flachimesa on Jun 21, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs!
a 4th consecutive win would be huge going into the road trip!
Oh Baby!
by cubswgnrocks on Jun 21, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I cannot stand to see guys take a fastball for a strike.
I’ll take that.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know why
the White Sox play the Dodgers this year???
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Jun 21, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just crazy inter-league scheduling I guess...
…but it is a rematch of the ’59 Series.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 21, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My in-laws went to one of the games at the LA Coliseum
They just moved out here from Cicero. Not native Chicagoans, unfortunately – they’re from Nebraska.
by CaliCub on Jun 21, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scores
2-0 Sox
1-0 Brewers
offen$e plea$e wake up
by lexmarklover on Jun 21, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's win in something other than a walkoff.
It would save our bullpen for the brutal road trip coming up:
1 @ Atlanta
3 @ Detroit
3 @ White Sox
3 @ Pittsburgh
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 21, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whats with your signature?
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
by LPLancer23 on Jun 21, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It references the Cubs' record at games I've been at since April 2004.
The Cubs record in every game I’ve been at is 5 wins, 0 losses.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 21, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you need to get to more games!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 21, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get this game started already?
Jimmy’s gettin’ impatient!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 21, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aren't we all.
How has your day been?
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 21, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far, so good Vermont...
Slept in, got up made breakfast, coffee, fed the dog. I’m ready for our boys in blue complete the sweep.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 21, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't sleep in.
Had to work at 8 this morning (better than Saturday, when I have to start at 7 am), but I got off at noon so I can watch the Cubs, too.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 21, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no reed johnson today he has a tight back
by jesus christos on Jun 21, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So do I.
I can relate.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 21, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Von Joshua's approach
There are two things as far as changing the approach of the club. When the Cubs led the league in BB it was a change from previous times that they were swinging early in the count and not taking any BB. Last year the league didn’t adjust until the playoffs. Now as a league if I know the Cubs were sitting on early pitches as a design I would challenge them and get a head in the count on fat fastballs.
Now Joshua is saying recognize fastballs and hit it where it is pitched be 0-0 or 1-0 or 3-2.
If the league doesn’t want to pitch to you than take a walk
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Jun 21, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a very good approach...
Basically get yourself a pitch to hit, and if ya don’t get something you can square up- take a walk.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 21, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sori
needs to hear this more than anyone else on the roster.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jun 21, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been getting better as of late.
Albeit, it’s at a slow pace.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 21, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no, not again!
There be rain on the way.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
by hip2bsquare on Jun 21, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not again!
We’ve had more than enough rain delays this year. Hopefully, that either misses Chicago or it holds off long enough so the Cubs and Indians can get the game in.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 21, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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