Wrigley Field Scoreboard Mystery
by Al Yellon on Jun 22, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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PrintDuring interleague play, when the Yankees play the Mets, the Wrigley scoreboard has panels that read "NY (N)" and "NY (A)". Apparently, the two Los Angeles teams don't rate the same courtesy:
Click on photo to open a larger version in a new browser window. Photo by David Sameshima
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Interesting
I wonder if it has anything to do with the “of Anaheim” absurdity at the end of the team name? Or is it just that LA is too long to spell and they didn’t want to make additional team name signs with a smaller font for 6 games a year.
Don’t leave me hanging like this!
Well...
… they make up special panels for the NY teams… they could make “LA (N)” and “LA (A)” for the same reason.
It still looks weird to see Los Angeles at Los Angeles. Your only clue is that the game was on the AL side.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
The "Anaheim" at the end is an absurdity to a degree...
Arte Moreno bought the team in 2002. He wanted to return the team to it’s “roots” as much as possible. (NOTE: I believe there was a Los Angeles Angels AAA baseball team dating to the late 1800’s). He wanted to change the name back to it’s original name (Los Angeles Angels) but there was a stipulation in the 25 year lease (negotiated between city of Anaheim and Disney) stating “Anaheim” had to be included in the name. So…you get the strange name. Even us die-hard Angel fans hated it at first. Now…we don’t pay too much attention.
Moreno aggressively advertises the Angels in the LA Area, even close to Dodger’s Stadium. He is a long range thinker. There is speculation that he will move the team from Anaheim and closer to LA when the lease expires.
I would assume...
That they just didn’t worry about it since the games would be played so late that no one would be there to watch the scoreboard?
"Something Profound"
That photo sparked some curiosity
I looked up the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim on wikipedia… and made a discovery. In their expansion season of 1961, the Angels played all of their home games in Wrigley Field. How’s that for some fun trivia?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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The Cubs owned that park when...
… their top farm team was the old PCL Los Angeles Angels in the 1940’s and 1950’s.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Was a pleasure yesterday BTW.
Would’ve stayed to chat a little longer, but didn’t want to keep you from your family.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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No worries, you could have sat with us!
Next time.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I definitely won't be shy!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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Bill Veeck
Wanted to move the St.Louis Browns there in the 50’s. He felt stadium was seen as unfit, it only held about 21,000. The only way the Angels were allowed to play in L.A. in 1961 was because Dodgers’ Owner, Walter O’Malley, demanded they had to play their first season in Wrigley Field. O’Malley did not want to compete in L.A. with a second team.
Unfortunately, it was too small for an MLB park.
It is part of what contributed to so many home runs during the ’61 season.
The stadium was intentionally modeled after Wrigley – Chicago, except for the smaller dimensions. Here are a couple of links for pictures and other information;
Sports Hollywood.
Ballparks of Baseball.com
The park was torn down in the wake of the ’65 Watts riots. The stadium was sitting mostly unused. So, the stadium was razed to make way for a park and a medical center. It was demolished in 1968.
What’s interesting is that some of the homes visible beyond the left field wall are still there, in mostly the same condition.
For a bit more fun, there was a TV series taped at Wrigley in the early ’60’s called “Home Run Derby”. It was essentially a game show of baseball’s best hitters trying to hit more HR’s than one another in a 9 inning “game”. It was taped (filmed?) at Wrigley – LA.
Here is a You Tube link to one of the “contests”: Duke Snider vs. Hank Aaron
I wish it was spelled that way
good nite
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I think because...
… esthetically, a four-letter “NITE” matches up better with “GAME” than “NIGHT” would.
Also reduces the number of letters they need. They can use a “1” for the “I”, thus they need only panels with the letters N, T, E, G, A and M.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I refuse to call the Angels “The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim”. I think it’s ridiculous. Oh, and I still call Tampa “The D-Rays” or “Devil Rays”.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I occasionally call the Rays the D-Rays, but it's by force of habit.
I still call the Mariner’s the M’s sometimes, and that little nickname is from 20+ years ago, and wasn’t even official
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 22, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Almost all Seattle fans call the Mariners the "M's"
I have a buddy from Seattle actually sitting next to me when I was reading this and he said everyone out there calls them the M’s. He actually likes to sing the Go Cubs Go song, except he says “Go M’s Go” just to be obnoxious
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 22, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess I had no idea it was still around
I know they used to actually put it on the baseball cards, but I hadn’t seen it in print in quite a while
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 22, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you still call them "Anaheim Angels"?
I still use that name.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 22, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Of note: we're going to be Twins, Giants, and Mets fans for the next 10 days or so.
Brewers Upcoming Schedule:
Tue, Jun 23 Minnesota 8:05 PM Suppan (5-4) Liriano (2-8)
Wed, Jun 24 Minnesota 8:05 PM Looper (5-4) Blackburn (6-2)
Thu, Jun 25 Minnesota 2:05 PM Bush (3-4) Baker (4-6)
Fri, Jun 26 San Francisco 8:05 PM Gallardo (7-4) Cain (9-1)
Sat, Jun 27 San Francisco 7:05 PM Parra (3-8) Zito (4-7)
Sun, Jun 28 San Francisco 2:05 PM Suppan (5-4) Sanchez (2-7)
Mon, Jun 29 NY Mets 7:05 PM
Tue, Jun 30 NY Mets 8:05 PM
Wed, Jul 1 NY Mets 2:05 PM
Cardinals Upcoming Schedule:
Mon, Jun 22 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM Wellemeyer (6-6) Redding (0-2)
Tue, Jun 23 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM Pineiro (5-8) Hernandez (5-1)
Wed, Jun 24 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM Thompson (2-2) Nieve (2-0)
Thu, Jun 25 @ NY Mets 1:10 PM Carpenter (5-1) Santana (8-5)
Fri, Jun 26 Minnesota 8:15 PM Wainwright (8-4) Perkins (2-4)
Sat, Jun 27 Minnesota 1:10 PM Wellemeyer (6-6) Slowey (10-2)
Sun, Jun 28 Minnesota 2:15 PM Pineiro (5-8) Liriano (2-8)
Mon, Jun 29 San Francisco 8:15 PM
Tue, Jun 30 San Francisco 8:15 PM
Wed, Jul 1 San Francisco 8:15 PM
Thu, Jul 2 San Francisco 7:15 PM
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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I want to be a Mets fan....for now
Let’s just see how good these Cardinals are….the next 10 days will be telling
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011
Yes. Remember, we also have a tough schedule.
1 @ Atlanta.
3 @ Detroit.
3 @ White Sox.
3 @ Pittsburgh.
Not sure who we play on our next home series.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 22, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
The Brewers
I know this because I’ll actually be in town for this series…first time in a while!
"The 12 second rule is how long it takes Carlos Lee to hear, turn around, run over, find and eat a hot dog dropped by a fan in the Crawford Boxes at Minute Maid park" - ballhawk
4 v. Milwaukee - 3 v. Atlanta - 4 v. St.Louis...
Pretty big homestand to have right before the All-Star Break. Should be a big indicator where the Cubs sit going into the break.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Parra got sent down and Bush has Arm fatigue and is going to be pushed back.
Brewers rotation is starting to spiral. The organization isn’t sure who is starting Thursday.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I read somewhere they're looking into Pedro
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I don't think that would be a huge boost for them though.
There is a reason he’s not signed and a reason 5-6 teams have already passed on his services.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
ofcourse it seems that way
but you really don’t know what you’re gonna get after some minor league action, he can possibly slideinto their No3 slot in front of Braden Looper. Trevor Hoffman and Casey McGehee were not on many other teams wish list either but have so far produced fine for them. With or without Pedro, their pitching doesnt seem intimidating, I agree….. but Pedro could get them a few more wins than they’d have without him. That’s all I’m saying.
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I hear you...
The difference between McGehee/Hoffman was they were wanted enough to be in Spring Training and break with the team. Pedro didn’t even get invited and that was after a pretty decent showing in the WBC.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
They missed his session the other day.
Pedro showed up late to throw and the Brewers scouts left to go watch other players instead of watching him. Kind of telling.
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by Bill Potter on Jun 22, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I just want to relish
being one game AHEAD of teh Brewers in the loss column…
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Look at those FRIDAY matchups
should be good games
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That's because they realize the absurdity...
…of calling a team in Anaheim the “Los Angeles Angels.”
It’s like calling the Brewers the Chicago Brewers of Milwaukee.
Not exactly.
More like “Milwaukee Brewers of Kenosha”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
you've just made a bunch of people in Racine angry.
I can feel the motor homes trembling now.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
So the Chicago Wolves of the AHL
..should be the “Rosemont Wolves?”
Arte Moreno realizes the Angels are worth more (in many respects) in using “Los Angeles.” Anaheim is just a few miles down the freeway from the city limits of Los Angeles. There’s nothing absurd about this. The Los Angeles Rams played in Anaheim for years. The Giants and Jets play in New Jersey.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 22, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
What seems possible is...
… that when Moreno’s lease at Angel Stadium is up, he will build a new stadium somewhere near Anaheim, but just over the line in Los Angeles County, thus allowing him to drop the “of Anaheim”.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Moreno does it purely for advertising $$$$
…and it is safe to say that people in LA don’t care what you call the teams. They are fair weather fans who show up late, leave early and otherwise don’t care.
I think the Cubs scoreboard has it right. :-)
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
They are mostly fair weather fans.
There’s this one young lady…..
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
her stylist told her she doesn't look good in red, so she chooses the Dodgers.
I’m sure that played a big part in her decision.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
do you know that?
I’ve read that she’s a huge baseball fan.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Beat me to it.
She keeps score at every game she attends. I’m not sure whether her stylist encouraged this practice, but she does it anyway.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
From what I've heard of her...
… she is a real baseball fan, not just a celebrity hanger-on. She has a baseball blog.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
yes, I'm teasing.
she is one of the 10 die hard Dodger fans in LA.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Or
Like “San Francisco Athletics of Oakland.”
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 22, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The Tijuana Padres of San Diego
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 22, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Are there Donkey shows between innings?
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Angels' location
Al and SDSJM are right. Lots of pro sports teams play or have played in venues physically located in smaller towns outside of a major city but they have retained the name of the major city.
The Angels were originally the Los Angeles Angels and changed to the California Angels when they moved south. Gene Autry refused names such as the Anaheim Angels or Long Beach Angels. California Angels was just a marketing move; pre-Padres, it was meant to include everyone in Southern California. Disney changed the name to the silly Anaheim Angels to promote Disneyland and other Anaheim assets (same for Mighty Ducks of NHL). Moreno wanted to change back to Los Angeles Angels but was forced to keep Anaheim in the official name because of Disney contract.
Related stupidity, when the A’s were considering a move to Fremont, a small Bay Area city, the debate was whether to call the team the Fremont A’s or the Oakland A’s of Fremont.
The Jets
don’t they play in a venue outside the STATE?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
There is only one NFL team in the state of New York — the Buffalo Bills.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
and not for long...
they could bolt for Toronto. They have a deal to play 2 games a year at the Skydome for the next few years. Ralph Wilson, the owner of the Bills wants a new or upgraded stadium, but he is having trouble finding the money from the city/state. Buffalo loves the Bills, but simply don’t have the money to waste on a new building.
During Anaheim's court action against Moreno, he did hint
of possibly moving just a few miles north across the L-A County line, just up the Santa Ana Fwy. That put the fear of God into Anaheim. It led to the end of lawsuits against Moreno. I think La Mirada was making some noise about a possible ball park location near the 5.
I’m pretty sure the Halos are set in Anaheim for now.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 22, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason, this made me laugh
I really, really needed a laugh today too…
by Craig in South Bend on Jun 22, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions
Anyone know where I can find
the interleague record for NL vs AL?
I’d be willing to bet the NL is winning, but it’ll be close.
Interleague record
AL leads 88-79 in 2009 and 1496-1415 overall.
P.S. Don’t bet.
Bleh
Feels like we’ve been winning more games though.
Thanks.
by cubsfaninatl on Jun 22, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Take away the DH
and I bet it’s closer.
by Cubs and Hawks fan on Jun 22, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions
You mean only count the games of baseball that were played?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 22, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineup is already posted per Twittermyer:
Lineup Monday: riot, fuky, fox (lf), lee, hoffp (rf), soto, font, blanco, demp.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Dome
better have his running shoes on.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 22, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I REALLY want to see this lineup do well.
Not that I don’t ALWAYS want to see them do well but maybe it would give Lou some confidence to sit guys who need breathers now and again.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
Suntimes Cubs Beat writer Gordon Wittenmyer has a Twitter account...
He is known as: cst_cubs
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
cst_cubs
that’s why twitter.com/twittermyer didn’t work
thanks,
tarp rolled out
what happens if the game is rained out?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
Ugh... Really.
Gordo also Twitted that there was no rain. Maybe a quick isolated shower.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." - Alvin Dark
I'm an Angel fan that attended yesterday's game....
Here’s a photo of the scoreboard at the end of the game…
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