Haircuts, Lilly And Avoiding A Sweep: Cubs vs. Tigers Preview, Thursday 6/25, 12:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 AM CDT
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PrintAlmost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It was getting kind of long
I could have said it was in my way -- Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
A bit of fun this morning -- we need it, right? Magglio Ordonez of the Tigers -- known for the last few years for flowing curly locks that reached his shoulders -- showed up at Comerica Park last night having cut them all off. He did it for charity -- he's auctioning the hair off to benefit the Imerman Angels, a Chicago-based cancer support group.
If you are interested, here's the eBay auction page. You get a bat autographed by Maggs, too. Bids start at $4,000 (yeah, I know, pricey).
Magglio Ordonez has always been a class act. I wish the Cubs had signed him after the 2004 season when he left the White Sox as a free agent, even with the knee problems he had at the time. The Tigers signed him to a deal that protected them from financial exposure if he had a recurrence of the same issue, and after a "recovery" year in 2005, he had three good years and helped lead them to the World Series in 2006. He'd have looked a lot better in right field the last three years than anyone else the Cubs put out there. He's having a tough year so far in 2009 and was actually benched before coming back to play against the Cubs this week.
Now, let's go beat those Tigers. Ryan Freel (and perhaps even his imaginary friend Farney, too) returns from a rehab assignment today as Reed Johnson heads to the DL.
And Dan McNeil of the Sun-Times trots out the tired old if Lou would just get fired up, that would make all the difference story. So Dan, you think if he yelled at an umpire or threw a base, that would get the Cubs to hit with RISP?
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Armando Galarraga is no relation to former Rockie, Expo and Cardinal Andres Galarraga. Now that we have that out of the way, Armando had a fine rookie year in 2008. This year, he has struggled. The Cubs should be able to take advantage of his 1.64 WHIP to get plenty of baserunners. The issue, of course, is getting them to score. Armando has never faced the Cubs. The only current Cubs who have faced him are Aaron Miles (0-for-3) and Milton Bradley (0-for-2).
Ted Lilly has made nine career appearances (six starts) vs. the Tigers; he is 2-3, 3.96 in those games. The last one was September 27, 2006, when Ted beat a World Series-bound Tigers team in Detroit. Players currently on the Tigers roster are hitting .180 against Ted in 89 total AB.
The Cubs are back on WGN this afternoon. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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All i want for christmas is a clutch base hit
a clutch base hit…….a clutch base hit
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by heine41 on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
you might get one before december
but if you ask for two, that might bee too much
I guess it's almost time for Christmas in July.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 25, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
And a swing on strike three
a swing on strike three…..a swing on strike three….there’s no place like home.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
What a difference 3 days makes...
Sunday night I was so excited thinking that we finally turned a corner, and then we fall back into the SSDD stuff of the first 2 months of the season. Let’s get out of here with at least a win.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
Tuesday even looked like Monday was the aberration
Until the 9th
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
You alluded to this in last night's recap, Al ...
But the next three weeks are critical. We need to get at least two wins out of the next four games. That would make for a 2-5 trip, which is ugly, but workable. And we need to at least win the series against the division opponents.
If we’re more than 5 out on July 12, I think it’s going to be a long summer.
There are 3 more on the trip -- PGH
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
*after the 4
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
today's game against the Tigers
then three against the Sox. That’s four …
which just might help rescue this road trip
I feel like we are still there, we’re not getting blown out and the pitching is still there. We just NEED that bat
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It might help
But right now, they couldn’t beat my slowpitch softball team on the road — and we stink.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
oh -- my bad
I thought we were playing the Pirates at Wrigley.
S'alright
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The Big Cat
Was also a pretty good Brave :D
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Lou mentioned drawing them out of a hat...
The Score did it as a joke this morning, and got the lineup of:
Fukudome – CF
Hoff – LF
Lee – 1B
Theriot – SS
Zambrano – DH
Soriano – 2B
Hill – C
Bradley – RF
Fox – 3B
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
If I'm not mistaken...
…Billy Martin did that at least once during the Yankees season in 77. That’s probably were Lou got it from.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Galarraga
I’m fearful because he is the kind of pitcher that the Cubs should beat, poor WHIP, struggling command, etc., but somehow have a way of dominating Cubs hitters.
Hopefully I am wrong. A win today would at least give us momentum heading into the next two road series in Chicago and Pitt.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions
yeah my eyes lit up when i saw we were going to face him this week
That being said, this is the exact situation when we make this guy look like a Cy Young contender
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011
At least he's not left-handed
Someone other than DLee may be able to scratch out a hit or two.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Pretty Much the only thing keeping me happy right now
Is D-Lee’s hit streak. I’d love to see him push it to 30
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Too true.
Agreed about D-Lee’s hit streak. Would be great to see him get to 30.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 25, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Dan McNeil's story is simplistic.
We need a new Lou. This one won’t do.
What’s this “we” crap, McNeil? You’re an unabashed White Sox fan. Write something about your own sucky team, and shut up about ours, m’kay?
"You have to have short-term memory, no matter who you are in this game. There's always tomorrow." ~Derrek Lee
by Goodie1969 on Jun 25, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Lineup for this afternoon ->
Soriano
TheRiot
Lee
Hoff
Fox DH
Fontenot
Fukudome
Koyie Hill
Blanco
Lilly
6-1 for me right now.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's different
Sheesh, Lou.
I suppose he figured “threatening” to make changes started a winning streak.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
well, if Milton is day to day
… like the folks below say, Lou doesn’t have a ton of options. I guess he could start Freel.
I suppose that will be 10-12 days, too....
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a soft spot for MIlton, for some reason
But I wish that when he got hurt, he and Lou would just agree on the freaking DL. Playing a man short is bad — and Milton isn’t exactly the best pinch-hitter I’ve ever seen.
I hear you
I want him to do well, I like the way he brings his passion to the table……
I just wish he was better.
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his slugging percentage is so low!
His on base is OK, but his slugging percentage is .070 lower than his career average and almost .200 lower than last season.
And, of course, his RBI total is ridiculously low — but I think that’s partly because he’s been hitting well in the three hole as Soriano has collapsed hitting ahead of him.
Oh, I like Milton
But he’s unbelievably fragile
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
True.
Further, if it’s his damn contract and the third year triggers that has him occupying space on the 25 man and refusing to go on the DL when he can’t play, the contract is flawed.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Wouldn't be the first flawed contract Jimbo handed out
He learned from MacPhail. Player options? Really? How in the world can that benefit the club?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Hendry has given
way too many bad contracts that favor the player.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
Like 2 years for Miles....
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 25, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm less worried about options that favor the player, in this case.
MB’s options are supposedly triggered by games on the active roster. If the contract and concern about the triggers are hurting the team because he doesn’t want to go on the DL, the contract sucks more than a big salary with a NTC.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Or Bradley's contract
or Sori’s, or Dome’s.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
are they letting us have ten batters
for this game?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Lilly is always in the 10 hole
Watching.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
They're playing by summer league rules
10 batters and courtesy runners for the catchers with 2 outs, to speed up the game.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Jun 25, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
nice screen name
"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo
by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 25, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly doesn't need binary.
He only puts up zeroes.
"You have to have short-term memory, no matter who you are in this game. There's always tomorrow." ~Derrek Lee
by Goodie1969 on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
No Farney
Maybe he has a few good games left, mostly out of anger. I’d trot him out there, considering…
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
oops
Fontenot has been hitting poorly but I feel is playing well in the field.
I don’t think Farney would be much of an upgrade offensively, and might be a step back with the glove
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011
maybe it's random
But when I’m watching, Fontenot always seems to be in the middle of rallies that fail or that fall well short of what they should produce. Soto would get the silver medal …
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with the batting aspect
We can always count on Mikey for a strikeout when we need anything else to happen
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011
It's kind of amazing that Fontenot
isn’t getting more hell considering his struggles. Miles has been really awful, but Fontenot was the guy the Cubs thought would be an adequate replacement for DeRosa.
I know Milton is a bigger name and a bigger mouth, Miles looks like a little leaguer, the bullpen is questionable and Soriano and Fukudome look HORRIBLE. But LBR’s struggles are hardly drawing any notice.
I, for one, feel he's doing what's expected of a bench player
making $430K a year. Compared to his higher-profile teammates who make 10 times more and put up the same stats, LBR can’t really irritate me very much.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
well, I won't argue the salary point
But Fontenot is not considered a bench player on this team. Before Aramis got hurt, LBR was going to get the vast majority of playing time at second.
If aramis was in there being a rock and stabilizing this offense
….who knows how productive Fonty could be playing his normal position and possibly being platooned against LHP.
I think the lineup is just pushing as a whole, and Fontenot is right in the middle of it.
I’m not expecting Aramis to come back and give us a whole new heart, but maybe just be a bad-ass pacemaker
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Tru dat
Which raises this question: is LBR out of a job now that Blanco has flashed the glove?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
good question
Also, will the Cubs dump Miles when Aramis returns? I sure hope so.
Still want Andy White at SS
Platoon Riot and Fonty at 2B, dammit!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
So you want Theriot to play in 20% of the games?
That means you get 80% Fontenot and %100 Blanco, leaving the best player of those three on the bench.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 25, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I just say you have 3 players for 2 positions
the best two play
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I think thats because he is being exposed due to Aramis' absence
If he wasn’t able to play an adequate third base the last 6 weeks, I’m we would have been running him out of town
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011
I'm attributing it to him having to switch positions
I’d like to wait and see how he does once Aramis returns.
It would be stating the obvious
I’m sure Fonty works like heck, but he is just not an everyday player. Rami going down has forced him to play (a lot) more than he should, and that can easily be blamed for his current struggles.
Perhaps with Freel/Fox at 3B, he can move back to 2B and platoon there with Blanco and/or Riot. It might help to play his natural position – it will certainly help to not be in the lineup on a daily basis.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The Cubs were expecting him ...
to play most of the time at second, even before A-Ram’s injury.
That plan doesn't seem very sound in light of the current facts
We’ve had more than one pre-season plan go by the wayside, though.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Nor am I
Just his ability to trot out there and perform 5 out of every 6 games. That day may come, but it certainly isn’t today.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You never know....
…what a part time player will do if they haven’t had extended playing time before. Some guys look like they have great swings when they play part time, but the mental adjustment of going out their everyday can be a challenge.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I agree
It wouldn’t be an improvement, but I’m speculating on whether Farney is insane enough to spark up something.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Sadly, I'd rather see what Freel can do
Fontenot is 3 for his last 33, all singles.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 25, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Ted is going to be REALLY mad now
He is batting TENTH
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 25, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's beating a dead horse
Why is Bradley out of the Lineup? Why is Sori in the lineup? Muskrat is reporting that Bradley is out of the lineup through Saturday.
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
Bruised knee
I’m guessing
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Wrist?
Seemed to tweak his wrist or something when he failed to make that diving catch last night.
by John Q Freejazz on Jun 25, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Failed bat break attempt...
That was idiotic.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 25, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Milton Bradley
is on pace to be quite the free agent bust. He makes me ill.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
by Reddevil on Jun 25, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Glass
I love that reference, shall we call him Mr. Glass….Unbreakable reference.
Sorry for this, I have always read that Freel is an odd guy, but where does the Farney name come from?
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
It's his imaginary friend
More here.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Do a quick Google search of "Farney"
and click on the Deadspin link. The comments are so funny…
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Zobrist..
with our struggles on offense all year, and the talk of getting another bat. Does anybody know if Ben Zobrist is on the trading block, i would love to see hendry to go after him. He’s having a great year. Go cubs!
We Got This!
He's on the trading block in my fantasy league
Hold on, I’ll get on the phone with the Boondock Bombers. Hold Please. :)
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My brother is a Rays fan...
and we were talking about this over the weekend. I think he goes back into RF for Tampa Bay when Iwamura returns. The platoon of Gross/Kapler is OK, but Zobrist would outproduce them.
Visit bloggingthebracket.com, SBNation's bracketology/hoops rambling site!
by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 25, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
At this point..
he might be to valuable for the Rays to trade him, but he would be awesome in a Cbs uniform. Great numbers this year and he has played a lot of positions..we need him!
We Got This!
by cubbiebear316 on Jun 25, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Maggs
Al are you sure you wanted Maggs on the Cubs ?
LAKELAND, Fla. — Magglio Ordonez is being booed at the World Baseball Classic by his own Venezuelan countrymen, who are voicing their displeasure with his friendship with controversial Venezuela President Hugo Chavez.
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by nimblenikelfoos on Jun 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
Meh
He can bbq with Ahmadinejad for all I care if he puts up numbers like this.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 25, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, four years ago that wasn't an issue, was it?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Reed Johnson might be almost as painful a loss as ARAM
because it means Dome is our everyday centerfielder, and he’s back to being awful at the plate.
Can we just reverse the Freel trade and get Gathright back?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 25, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions
For his awesome bat?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
First Pitch Thread is up
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
need todays game
1st time here…intelligent group…gotta beat Tigs 2day & 2 of 3 from Sox. I’m 50 and was just “getting used to” feeling “cubbie confident” :) Cubs may live & die by our OF “anchors”…sadly, now both LF & RF look like BOAT anchors!
Fontenot should be a bench guy
which is why we need an upgrade up the middle at 2b. Still don’t get us signing Miles when Orlando Hudson was still out there and signed for not much more than Miles.
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
by TheCubsGuy on Jun 25, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I blame Hendry
seems Hendry was making trades this season “just to make trades”, “window dressing”, since it appears MB is a bust, other trades hardly mattered…does anyone honestly feel we ran out a “superior team” to ’08? not I…
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