Soto fails drug test
by junkhorse on Jun 25, 2009 2:24 PM CDT
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PrintThis might explain the reason he's carrying a bit more weight this season, or the slow bat ... but probably not. No worries, it's an isolated incident and was during the WCB. Geo, I see some pain behind those eyes ... you know what cures that sadness ... weed.
i don't have enough BS to fill this post with and would rather you just read the link for more information because i'm not a baseball reporter like Paul Sullivan, just a messenger. I hope this fills my 75 word minimum quota.
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justs gets better and better all the time.
Those munchies will kill you, to many late night Little Debbie snacks.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
Well then Blou was right just got the wrong drug
Clearly he smoked dope last year and that gave him his power.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Well on the positive side
We don’t have to worry about him getting worn out from playing any international ball games for a couple years
If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.
Oh Geo
Prepare for a number of weed jokes. At least him being fat is explained now.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Somebody should list all the things they got in Half-baked
Pizza, funyons, popcorn many other things
That was probably every night for Geo.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
Make sure you....
Get some sour cream and onion chips with some dip, man, some beef jerky, some peanut butter. Get some Häagen-Dazs ice cream bars, a whole lot, make sure chocolate, gotta have chocolate, man. Some popcorn, red popcorn, graham crackers, graham crackers with marshmallows, the little marshmallows and little chocolate bars and we can make s’mores, man. Also, celery, grape jelly, Cap’n Crunch with the little Crunch berries, pizzas. We need two big pizzas, man, everything on ’em, with water, whole lotta water, and Funyons.
by AGC on Jun 25, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
Weed speeds up your metabolism, hence the lots of eating, most potheads aren’t fat because of the munchies, the munchies are a way to make up for the speeding metabolism.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Who was the player ( I think from the White Sox)
Who got caught having his pot send via FX some years ago ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
I don't know about a MLB player...
but Freddie Mitchell who used to play for the Eagles got busted in February for the same thing.
Dan Pasqua...
… it was, read about it here.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
So UPS not Fed X
That’s why I couldn’t find it.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 26, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw that...
… but Fed-Ex or UPS doesn’t change the essential story. Dan Pasqua will always be associated as a toker.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
I understand
Just that when I tried to google to find the answer myself I couldn’t because I kept using Federal Express in the search. Thanks for the answer because I knew it happened and was not the football player last year.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
If he wants to do it in the off season not my business
But if you do something that is clearly against the rules during the WBC is just plain stupid.
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions
this explans...
the extra weight, case of the munchies during the offseason.
Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey! Hey, Hey!
"You have to have short-term memory, no matter who you are in this game. There's always tomorrow." ~Derrek Lee
+1
Not that I support drugs but hey if it helps him start hitting then go for it
And maybe he can tell Lou what a blunt is so that he can differentiate between a steroid and a reefer
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
rich harden ought to be on sale
for the best available batch of prospects we can get
Thread pirate!
This thread is about GeoBarney and 420!
FWIW, I said the same thing earlier today.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
The question is...
… with Harden’s performance the last couple of starts, who would want him?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
cleveland
which gets us DeRosa and THE CIRCLE IS COMPLETE!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i'd prefer a prospect
an outfielder preferably
milwaukee?
minnesota?
either one would appreciate more pitching. anywhere i look, people say “there is no decent pitching available.”
The Brewers have already said they're not trading prospects this year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
so why would they want Hardin ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
and i doubt hendry would trade harden to milwaukee
by jesus christos on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
most likely a lot of teams would want him
he would be the best available starter available for trade. Peavy hurt Bedard coming off injury and the fact the astros dont give up
gawd, no
not the astros. their system is worse than ours was. unless ya’ gots a name.
no i meant
those are reasons why harden would be the best. because those pitchers are likely to be dealt. i meant to mention oswalt hence the astros comment
At this point ?
Not even close. He has totally inconsistent and hurt and had an ERA just under 5. If you trade to free up salary it makes a little sense but all you would get for him is a bench player or prospect.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 25, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Not so fast...
Cleveland has a $9M option for 2010, according to Cot’s. It was just $8M but that little Cy Young thingee last year bumped it up $1M.
Granted $9M is a lot of money for a team like Cleveland, but it’s really cheap for an ace, and if I’m Shapiro and I’m reasonably confident about next year’s club, keeping Lee at $9M is a no-brainer. Aside from his W/L record, he’s having another stellar year. ERA+ of 153, leading the AL in starts (15) and the ML in least hits allowed (115) if I’m reading his baseball-reference.com page right.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
But the rest of that team is so bad...
… maybe they’ll think about totally retooling for next year.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
you think so?
Oh they totally stunk up the place this year, no doubt. But assuming Sizemore comes back from injury, their position players are either at their peak or only going to get better. And that’s without whatever Laporta can produce next year.
If they can turn DeRosa into a couple of ML ready arms (starter or bullpen), I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to give it a go with what they have.
I will agree with you though on the “totally” part. If they do decide to retool, back up the truck and do it all. DeRosa, Lee, Hafner, Martinez, Wood – move ’em all.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
He is no guarantee to be avilable.
I don’t think he will for the same reasons stated by this nice ballhawk fellow
Okay
So we’re all officially giving up on the season got it.
Yes I have joined twitter. Find me at puckyprosecutor. First person to identify where the puckish prosecutor is from gets credit! (not enough to spell our puckish).
by puckishcubsfan on Jun 25, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't you...
…the one who also jumped to the conclusion that all players hate us because we were critical of some guys who just won’t get the job done?
Jumping to conclusions is never a good thing. Especially since I doubt one single person here has “given up” on the season yet,
Don't bother....
trying to reason with her.
She has a long history of “crazy”……….
by timeforachange2009 on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Now Koyie...
I know you don’t smoke weed, I know this. But I’m gonna get you high today. Cause it’s Thursday, we just got swept, and we aint got sh*t to do!
"Well 'round here,
between Clark and Sheffield, we call this here a little twenty twen twen…"
"You have to have short-term memory, no matter who you are in this game. There's always tomorrow." ~Derrek Lee
Geo's hungry and he doesn't know why?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
Now we know the reason for the weight gain!
Doritos and Ho-Ho’s can cause weight gain when the munchies kick-in!
The sun will shine in '69
Mmm...ding-dongs.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
The munchies are actually poorly understood.
Smoking increases your metabolism, which induces munchies. If you have the willpower to pick up a bag of celery and a glass of diet pop instead of a costco sized tub of cheese balls and a starbucks double latte, you’ll actually loose weight fairly quickly if you smoke.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Here is the problem with that logic.
If you buy his excuse that it was an isolated incedent, than 2 hours of munchies didn’t cause his current shape. Out the door goes the munchies justification.
So you say “OK, he must be a regular user who doesn’t have the willpower to put down the doritos”. Fine. You believe he went his whole life clean, never smoking, never getting down with those treats, and then decided randomly at the age of 25 or 16 decided to jump head first in to the world of pot and pizza?
No. Either its an isolated incident (or an irregular enough incident) that it wouldn’t be affecting his weight, or he’s a regular user, meaning his rookie season should have been tainted by this as well. The logic that the munchies caused his decline this season is pure fail.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
25 or *26
Sorry, trying to get out the door to work, fingers got going faster than they should have..
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
The weed really isn't the issue
and the munchie logic is more of a joke than a real reason. This just shows that clearly Soto isn’t 100% committed, and provides an excuse for why he has fallen off this season.
Like you said at age 26 he doesn’t just start smoking weed, this has happened before, but I’ll bet it stopped for a couple of years because something motivated him to start losing weight. His success got to his head, which I thought the whole time, this just goes to show that Soto wasn’t as dedicated this offseason.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
I tend to agree...
…I don’t really give a shit whether he smoked weed, but it could be an indicator that he has lost some of the focus that produced his rise upwards to the big leagues. His recent success, may have also gotten in his head a bit.
I never smoked the stuff, so I have no idea what it does to you, but I had more than my share of suds during my college playing days.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
If you're sitting around doing nothing,
then it can certainly make you want to eat the entire pantry in one sitting.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
Have to ask...
Are you talking about his use of pot, or his use of doritos – given his early season offensive struggles, one of these is clearly more relevant, and it ain’t green.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 26, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
It wasnt PED's
but does this make BLou half right about his allegations?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
It was a PED...
Cause by the looks of it, Geo was prepping for an eating contest.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
nope.
hi, Tim!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Hah! Classic.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I posted this in today's game wrap, before i saw this thread...
… and over there it was in response to those jumping on Geo’s case for this, so i took a bit more of a defensive tone that what is probably necessary in this thread, which seems to be mainly supportive and / or jokes. Here is what i said:
Look, illegal is illegal and the rules are the rules, i get it. But the fact is, it is a harmless drug that in terms of damage to your mind and body, is no worse for you than booze or cigs. The reasons for its illegal status are political, historical, and societal, pure and simple.
We aren’t talking about meth here. Many wildly successful athletes (Phelps being the easiest to point out) no doubt dabble, as well as many of our greatest minds. In some more liberal places it’s been decriminalized (those caught with it outside Fenway before a recent Phish concert i attended were issued $100 citations, no worse than a parking ticket) and furthermore, in Cali its prescribed for a variety of illnesses as a safer (i.e. less side effects) and less expensive alternative to prescription meds. Many governments, local and state, have even considered legalizing and taxing it of late.
The fact is, the league and the Cubs aren’t worried. In fact, its not even a big enough deal to regularly test for, as this ESPN article states:
The MLB does not regularly test for marijuana since it’s not considered a performance-enhancing drug, according to a players’ association spokesman interviewed by Levine.
If dude was rolling in to games blazed out of his mind, giggling uncontrollably with a bag of Cheetos in his hand, that’s a problem. Other than that, get off your high horse. It’ll be legal in my lifetime, is legal in many other more progressive countries around the world, and if used responsibly (much like the aforementioned booze), is of no harm whatsoever.
I will now climb off my soap box and go smoke a bowl.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
seems like you're the one on a "high" horse about this...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Har har har.
But seriously. Yes. I’m pretty open and upfront about this. Its an important issue.
I won’t harp on it further as Al wishes to keep politics out of it – and that’s pretty much the only direction you can go after pointing out that in moderation it does little to affect one’s athletic ability or brainpower – but blasting Soto for something 42% of Americans has done at least once (meaning, statistically, 10 Cubs and 315 MLB players have done as well) is redic.
Those that might join Soto, by the way, include: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Stephen King, Montel Williams, Ted Turner, Michael Bloomberg, Barack Obama, Michael Phelps, Aaron Sorkin (of West Wing fame), Rick Steves, and Sir Richard Branson.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
well, I'd be careful about using that "42% of Americans" argument too much
I’m sure there are plenty of things that at least 42% of Americans have done that probably wouldn’t be considered too smart.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Actually
It’s 42.0%
I have to agree with AndrewJStone (I’m guessing this is a reference). Alcohol destroys lives. Marijuana destroys lives BECAUSE it is illegal.
As a former smoker, I can attest that weed is a mostly harmless “drug”, when enjoyed in the privacy of one’s home. That being said, I sincerely hope Geo isn’t smoking on a regular basis. His job requires him to be physically and mentally prepared. Smokin’ blunts all day isn’t going to help your bat speed.
"Hey! If the moon were made of ribs, wouldja eat it? I know I would!"
Actually no, its not a reference.
Thats my name. I started using it in all online forums a few years back after growing tired of anonymous jerks feeling comfortable spewing anything they wished from behind the safety of their keyboard and silly handle like “sexyboobookitten13” or whatever else.
I just like to be upfront about who i am. I did get a lot of “ha ha andrew stoner” jokes in school though. But that was before i smoked, ironically.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Any relation to Harold T Stone?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Night Court!
Sadly, no.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Flint?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well played.
I too can think of plenty. Like being ignorant of marijuana?
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
85.4% of statistics are made up
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Undobtedly, but i wouldn't do that to you. :-)
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1821697,00.html
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait, you left something out
in Asian countries, such as Japan and China, marijuana use was virtually “non-existent,” the study found.
Now, I can tell you from all my time on the ground in China that it’s a very progressive thinking country (and yes, that’s sarcasm).
I’ll admit to not being an expert on the topic — other than the smell at Buffett concerts is really strong sometimes.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually haven't seen Buffett, but i think i'll be working out at his 8/15 show in Bridgeview.
Should be quite the people watching experience, from what i’ve heard.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
It's great for people watching
I try to make the rounds of the parking lots before the shows when I go to Alpine Valley.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Thoroughly depressing
It reveals a lot about Geovany Soto’s commitment to his craft and the organization that has provided him opportunity that he apparently spends his free time smoking pot. And the pathetic results in 2009 are right there as visible evidence for what happens when smoking dope becomes a lifestyle choice. Absolutely pathetic.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
Prolly some doobies?
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 25, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Refers!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
That's Reefers.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Not that I would know anything about that kind of stuff.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 26, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh for christ sakes
How do you know that it wasn’t an isolated incident? How do you know that this is his lifestyle choice? Oh, I forgot, you know everything right?
Michael Phelps was caught smoking pot and the guy won 8 freakin’ Gold Medals. What’s your theory on that oh omnipotent one?
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
I can look at his fatness, and just guess that he smoked often enough to get lazy.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
Maybe he was just smoking pot
to come down from all those rage-inducing steroids you were sure he took.
"You have to have short-term memory, no matter who you are in this game. There's always tomorrow." ~Derrek Lee
by Goodie1969 on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Relax
I for one have never smoked and I personally am indifferent over this. It was over the WBC. He’s embarrassed and apologized. And to tell you the truth, I bet you he’s not the only one on the team who has smokes or might even regularly smoke.
I bet you he’s not the only one on the team who has smokes or might even regularly smoke.
As i said earlier, if you buy that the MLB and the Cubs are statistically similar to our countries general population, 10 Cubs and 315 MLB players have smoked at least once in their lives.
I could go either way on that… in general getting to the MLB level requires a great amount of dedication and effort, something that leaves little time for experimentation. Plus, while smoking isn’t bad for you per se, it’s also not GOOD for you. So i could see how the percentage of MLB players who’d tried it would be smaller.
On the other hand, the background of the average MLB player, both American and international, probably lends itself to easier access to pot and drugs in general. For the most part, these guys aren’t growing up in the same lifestyle as those who buy $60 tickets and spend their evenings commenting on sports blogs.
All of this is generalization, obviously. But i wouldn’t be surprised if 3 Cubs had tried it, and i wouldn’t be surprised if 20 had.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
For a professional athlete, it IS bad for you...
…the decline in lung capacity alone should be enough to dissuade someone from using it.
Generally speaking, I agree with you that it is relatively harmless if you stay away from heavy machinery and driving a car, but for someone like Geo, he should know the facts about what it does to your cardiovascular system.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
This isn't scientific...
…but I played with a guy in college who smoked the stuff like a chimney. The guy had great natural skills, but he would make a lot of mental mistakes from his head not being in the game.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
By that logic, 2/3rds of our outfield must be high every afternoon.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 26, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, he's not saying that's the sole cause of not being in the game
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
it all depends on the person
weed will affect people in different ways. yeah typically people are slow and out of it. For me though I smoke 3-5 times a day. yup that’s right. i don’t do any other drugs and I don’t drink often. I still happen to get everything in my life done though, good job, good relationships with people, and 3.5 GPA after 3 years in college. It doesn’t make everyone slow and stupid.
But you don't need your lungs to study.
smoking anything 3-5 times a day lowers your body’s ability to process oxygen, which can impact critical thought processes, mental awareness and physical activity. I don’t blame weed as much as I blame the activity of smoking. Legalize weed, for all I care, but if your career depends largely on your cardiovascular system, then you should avoid smoking in general.
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by CyberCyclist on Jun 26, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
somehow
all I can picture is Roger Ebert, pinkly quivering as he leaves a movie he can’t stand.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you ever catch a 98 mph heater?
DId you ever catch one on….WEED?
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Jun 26, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions
Did you ever take a foul ball to the nads?
Did you ever take a foul ball to the nads on…WEED?
Soto: “Dude, a foul ball to the nads on WEED is much better.”
I can't find the exact quote
but Bill Lee who always admitted to smoking dope and is an advocate for legalizing was once asked what it was like pitching stoned and he replied " It was great. I look up at the scoreboard and it is already the 7th inning" Not as good as Tug McGraw’s immortal " I don’t know I never smoked Astroturf" but still amusing.
I have only tried pot twice and it had no effect ( most likely because I could only take a few puffs before feeling sick I hate smoking) but as previously stated I just can’t get that upset at anyone for using it and I seriously doubt Geo is a dope head.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
Another
" The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said, I have believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the Sixties I tested everything"
Bill Spaceman Lee
Lee always wanted to pitch for the Cubs
He loved Wrigley and day baseball but of course the Cubs would not go near such a character.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 26, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Lee was one of kind
Like Fydrich only smarter , funnier and with a more consistent career. One of the great SI covers had Lee on the mound and Fenway wearing a beanie hat with propellers.
Here is his Wiki entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lee_(left-handed_pitcher)
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 26, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly doesn't smoke pot,
but only because nobody’s been able to grow any that’s strong enough to get him stoned.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Jun 26, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
No one's rec'd this?
Ok, I will.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 26, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
actual graffiti from The Louvre
Saw this many years ago in the ladies bathroom at the famed museum written on the back of a stall
" Grow your own dope. Plant an Englishman today".
Who says the French don’t like the British.
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soto
imagine risking all that fame and money to get high. here in fla the drug testing is really bad. you can get high or you can make a living. you flunk you dont work.
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