Cubs Season Ticket Holder Lunch With Crane Kenney
About 100 season ticket holders got a chance today to meet with Crane Kenney and several other members of senior Cubs management (they're all identified in the photo caption). This is the first of what Kenney said will be three such meetings this summer, so if you are a season ticket holder and didn't get picked, you'll have two more shots at it. For the rest, this is a summary of what went on in the 90-minute Q-&-A session. (It's cool to watch the sprinklers go on, too -- you can see them in the background of the photo.)
Lunch was from one of the concession stands; everyone got a brat or hot dog, chips and a non-alcoholic drink, and then everyone assembled in the field boxes down the first base line. Many of the questions were regarding various logistical problems that people had. These were primarily in the upper deck and terrace reserve/box sections, things such as vendors with cotton candy sticks blocking views (they said they'd probably eliminate these), ushers blocking aisles while escorting people to seats (they'll look at this), and having enough TV's to view the game in places like the upper deck patio (where you can't see the game at all -- they said they'd either put monitors out there or pipe the WGN radio broadcast in).
Several people, mainly women, asked about the restrooms. Kenney said, "We're not going to defend the restrooms", and noted several issues, all of which he said they're going to deal with, including the problem of people going in the exit doors in certain restrooms, which creates traffic problems as well as other issues. The restrooms are also going to be addressed once new ownership comes in, along with a number of other things that have been pushed to the back burner, notably the Triangle Building. There were some other questions regarding the "older people" who serve as ushers sometimes getting involved in having to break up altercations, and they are looking at different ways to get security to such a scene faster and more efficiently. There are off-duty Chicago police officers in the ballpark during games, too.
There's quite a bit more, and this got to be a rather long post, so the rest is below the fold.
About new ownership, Kenney wasn't specific, only saying that they "hope" it will be finalized by season's end. The Triangle Building is top priority; Kenney repeated what he has told me several times, that they want to get non-essential things like team offices and storage out of Wrigley Field and move it to that building, so they can increase player and fan amenities in the ballpark itself. Kenney mentioned that all 29 other teams -- including the White Sox -- get some form of public money to improve their facilities, but the Cubs get none. Part of this is, he said, by choice, but he also hinted that perhaps new ownership could get some public funding, given that Wrigley Field is the third largest tourist attraction in the state.
Several questions were asked about season ticketing itself -- whether season ticket holders would ever get discounts (answer: no, primarily because of the 100,000 on the waiting list, many of whom would pay "more than face value"), and whether partial season ticket holders could get more playoff tickets (the team wants to make some tickets available to the general public, so that the team can create new Cubs fans -- this is a constant issue, how do they engage the next generation of baseball fans).
The issue of more night games was raised, and how having fewer night games requires an "adjustment" on the part of players who come here from other teams used to about 54 home night games (the ML average), cutting down to 30 here. It appears that at this time, they're not going to push the issue of adding night games, but both management and those season ticket holders in attendance (myself included) were strongly in favor of having a couple of Friday nights during the year, especially when coming home from a distant road trip on Thursday. This appears to be something they may push for, and I hope they get that. It wouldn't seem too disruptive to the neighborhood to have two Friday nights (out of 52 weeks a year) having Cubs home games.
Another show of hands was asked for regarding a Jumbotron, after a question was asked about "showing the errors" on the scoreboard. More than half the people (yes, myself included) said, yes, we'd approve of a Jumbotron, presuming the existing scoreboard was left alone AND they didn't do some of the ridiculous stunts some other teams do with such boards. Kenney hinted that perhaps it could be "on a rooftop". I'd be 100% in favor of something like this.
There were a couple of questions regarding the evacuation procedure for emergencies, prompted by the confusion that occurred during the tornado warning that happened during the game last August. They assured us that they pay close attention to weather forecasts, get the information out as quickly as possible, and are re-evaluating procedures. The problem comes in part from having an old facility with narrow aisles; this theme was repeated often during the lunch, with many hints that the Triangle Building will help in getting some logjams of various kinds fixed. The Triangle Building was mentioned many times during the lunch; this appears to be the club's #1 priority in improving the facility once ownership changes.
Since this lunch was not intended to be a discussion of the team on the field (and no baseball-side management people were there), no such questions were asked. I can tell you this, though: Cubs management does read this site and they always appreciate thoughtful and constructive suggestions on how to improve the team, no matter whether it's on the field or about the ballpark. Thanks to Crane Kenney and the management team for having these sessions. (Site note: because of this unusual midafternoon post, tonight's game preview will post at 4:30 pm CDT, half an hour later than usual.)
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Nice post
Kenney mentioned that all 29 other teams — including the White Sox — get some form of public money to improve their facilities, but the Cubs get none. Part of this is, he said, by choice, but he also hinted that perhaps new ownership could get some public funding, given that Wrigley Field is the third largest tourist attraction in the state.
This whole public funding thing for these billionaire sports franchises is getting out of hand.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
by cubsluver22 on Jun 29, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked
that the Cubs don’t get public money.
I got my degree in sport management and with all the possible avenues available to teams in which they can pull it all together and get some public dollars, it’s amazed they haven’t done that yet. Makes the fact that they’re a high payroll team that much more impressive.
Also — a question since I’ve only been following the Cubs since 1999 at age 12… I remember the whole thing about getting historical landmark status for the ballpark, there was a huge struggle and management wanted it. Now, it seems that landmark status gets in the way of things (bleachers rebuild, fences, signs) — does the team regret getting that now and does it have an effect on operations/logistics today?
Make it happen baby: Cubs, Jaguars, FSU, Jazz, Thrashers.
by camnorris14 on Jun 29, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs are currently one of only a couple of MLB organizations
that currently have zero debt. Of course, that will change when the ownership change takes place as a large part of the purchase will be financed.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im also all for a jumbotron
As long as the exsisting scoreboard remains the same, and also as long as it looks like it belongs. I think the way they had the jumbotrons during the Winter Classic looked random and out of place. It would be cool and unique if a jumbotron is put on a rooftop let’s just hope they don’t mess up the aesthetics of Wrigley by just throwing in a jumbotron just to have one.
"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."
by All The Way on Jun 29, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
The way Kenney was talking about it, it sounded like this is exactly the way they’d want to do it. (i.e. making sure it fits in with the rest of the park.)
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually have a brilliant...
Idea for the jumbotron, i just dont want it out in the public for someone to take it from me! I am trying to work with someone on getting it going.
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by HIGGY on Jun 29, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just post it on here, we promise to keep it quiet.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Jumbotron of sorts on a rooftop
could be used year-round as a billboard. The revenue it would generate is endless. One of the building owners should seriously think about it.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially if they placed it...
… on a rooftop so it would face Addison St. They could do a DOUBLE-sided electronic board that could indeed be used year-round.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t think of a rooftop that a jumbotron would be able to be seen both from in the stadium and on Addison
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by All The Way on Jun 29, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But a double-sided one on a Sheffield rooftop could be seen from the El as well.
that’d make for some primo advertising opportunities
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by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure there would.
Depending on how high it was built, you could see it down Addison.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a local statute against new signage
The reason you don’t see more than just the Horshoe Casino sign and the Miller Lite sign is because they are grandfathered in. If those signs ever came down, they can’t go back up.
The revenue from those signs is way more lucrative (and more reliable) than the rooftop party decks. If they could get around the existing rules, I think every rooftop owener would jump at the chance to demolish their rooftop bleachers and add a jumbotron.
"What, you want to tempt the wrath of whatever from high atop the thing?"
-Toby Ziegler
by Tim M on Jun 29, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FTW
I figured that was the reason. The city has byzantine laws regarding signage.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more in favor of a wireless solution.
I heard Crane talk about this before and I think it would be cool for the park to be wired which would allow fans to see highlights on their cell phones/PDA’s/iPods etc.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And add a wireless surcharge to the tickets?
What if I didn’t have a Web-enabled phone? Do I still have to pay for the surcharge?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surcharge?
The wirless company would PAY THE CUBS to be the preferred provider for the team!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a great point
I’m not a fan of jumbotrons in any way – I pay pretty close attention to the game while it’s being played, and can wait to see replays at home, not to mention I don’t care who is kissing who in the stands between innings.
BUT – revenue is revenue, though I don’t know who would pay for advertising when the jumbotron’s line of sight would most likely be blocked in 95% of the directions… Unless it can pivot or something, which would be cool.
I’ll also warn that those bright advertising billboards are obnoxious at night – LA is currently flooded with them, and you can read by the glow from blocks away.
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by PacificCub on Jun 29, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The things they can do with LED and screens now wouldn't bother it.
They can make around 180 degrees range of vision, display millions of colors, etc. so people would be able to see it in the park. If it’s on the rooftops, the scoreboard would be the largest hindrance of vision.
My guess is it can’t happen until they get the Triangle building up because of all the wiring and equipment it would require plus the need for a dedicated control room.
Make it happen baby: Cubs, Jaguars, FSU, Jazz, Thrashers.
by camnorris14 on Jun 29, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
US Cellular's new tron is beautiful
I think it is used for out of town scores, as well as the line ups.. A tron like this at Wrigley would be pretty awesome..
"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."
by All The Way on Jun 29, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing I noticed this weekend though - they dont show any replays or any action from the game.
They only show player stats, goofy promotions, commercials, and the like. Kinda weird.
Jack
derv
@themightycub
by derv on Jun 29, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, they probably can’t play video, ideally someday Wrigley would have a video-tron and also a stats board like that one. But now i’m suggesting two trons lol.
"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."
by All The Way on Jun 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily though,
Just look at the billboards on Picadilly Square or Times Square, specifically the Kodak ones. They show real-time images of passers-by for photo ops. This is done via wi-fi. My best compadre sells billboard advertising for a living and he tells me about new stuff and other excruciating minutiae about them.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very informative.
Thanks for reporting this.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Jun 29, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Al, congrats on getting invited.
I need a break from this team. Daily Show and Colbert Report for me tonight.
by thermal54 on Jun 29, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they win tonight, you'll probably have to keep doing this every night.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just looking at that picture
don’t you wanna go play? Damn! How could a player not be fired up to take the field with that view every day? Or not wann play for the Cubs?
Nice post, Al.
by socalbob on Jun 29, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One question:
Kenney was appointed by Zell, right? What are the odds of him keeping his job once the sale is completed?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
I know he’d like to stay. Depends on what new ownership wants.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And actually...
… Kenney was appointed before Zell bought the Tribune. He’s been a Cub exec since 2003, chairman since MacPhail left.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Crane Kenney
He seems very aware of what is REALLY going on, and won’t BS you but can still toe the company line. Pretty impressive.
Jackie likes the smell of cut grass, he used to play ball on Saturdays, Playin in the sun...
by PacificCub on Jun 29, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any more details on the security issue?
they are looking at different ways to get security to such a scene faster and more efficiently. There are off-duty Chicago police officers in the ballpark during games, too.
Specifically, the bleachers? I realize I’m approaching “old fart” stage, but every time I go into the bleachers (yes, I do venture inside the ballpark 4-6 times a year), I swear it’s going to be my last time. Whether it’s smoking, excessive drinking (and I do mean excessive), throwing crap at each other and on the field, and of course fighting, it just seems like it’s more and more out of control.
I realize manpower is limited, but a lot of these infractions happen in full view of security personnel. And they do nothing unless it’s really really obnoxious/obvious. If you ask them about it, they just sorta shrug.
Al, you’re in the bleachers all the time – have you noticed any behavioral trends in your area? And the corresponding reactions by security?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Security has gotten much better...
… in getting underage drinkers out of there, and also breaking up fights. Things have been more peaceful this year.
The smoking is still a problem. I mentioned this to Crane Kenney after the lunch was over and he said they’ll see what they can do regarding more and larger signs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With so many out of town visitors coming to Wrigley,
I think that is a good idea. Most out of towners (and some Chicago residents) may not be aware of the city-wide smoking ban and also may not realize it applies to Wrigley field.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work security at Soldier Field, and on occasion at Wrigley.
I can attest to it being more not caring than ignorance. People who smoke will forever argue that because they are outdoors, the rule shouldn’t apply.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jun 29, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether they argue that or not, it is state law.
I guess those people have no shame about breaking the law.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before this weekend...
…I said I was all for a rooftop jumbotron. Having seen the crap that gets played on the Cell’s jumbotron, I’ve changed my mind. Even if they don’t do the between inning stunts (kiss cam) to start out with, eventually the execs for the Cubs $$$ and change that way. It’s a slippery slope that I don’t want to go down.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
weird...that was suppose to say
“eventually the execs for the Cubs will see $$$…”
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The current management...
… seems to understand the middle ground between a ridiculous Jumbotron (like the Cell or Miller Park) or having one that gets them some revenue and has useful information. I think they can do it right.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that's my point.
Sure the current management gets it, but what about future management? Once you put that jumbotron up, it isn’t coming down.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True enough.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This "competition" between teams
as to who has the biggest scoreboard has gotten out of control. The scoreboard in the new Yankee stadium is so big, it obstructs the view of some fans. This is very silly, fans are at a LIVE game and their view is obstructed by a television!
This is why I’m intrigued by a wireless solution. The A’s talked about this (and also Crane mentioned this idea) when they were going to build a new stadium (which has since been axed).
Personally, it’d be interesting to see an innovative solution. There could be additional streams of revenue available to the team. For instance, the wireless provider would pay the Cubs to be the wireless provider for the team.
I think the key to the financial growth of the Cubs franchise is find innovative ways to increase revenue.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which they are already doing...
… with concerts, etc.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wireless solution?
Please continue, because I’m not sure I’m following.
Are you talking about having some kind of replay fuction on a mobile phone?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding triangle building …
I have heard you (in nice article in the Maple Street Press Cubs Annual) and others on this site, envision that in the not too distant future the entire main facility would be torn down and rebuilt. Essentially foul pole to foul pole, leaving bleachers and scoreboard intact.
My question is if something that ambitious were done I would assume it would be easier, if not a prerequisite, that the triangle building not be there. So, the triangle would be step 2, not step 1. Agree? If so, does making the triangle building #1 priority lessen the chances of the larger rebuilding effort?
by BatCubFan on Jun 29, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's probably not going to happen.
More likely, redoing and reinforcing the upper deck, and adding player & fan amenities. The redo of those needs the Triangle Building first, because they need to get the offices/storage OUT of Wrigley first, before they can add or redo things.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's too bad,
That will push any major reconstruction off many years. At the very least I hope they broaden the concept of the triangle building to include a concourse/mall like area along the 3B line — i.e. use it to allow game attendees more room and access.
by BatCubFan on Jun 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was part of the plan.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And who pray tell is going to pay for it????
Until we hear what Tom Ricketts or Mark Utay has to say on the subject of longer-term vision for Wrigley Field it is hard therefore to get excited about any theories on reconstruction. Also, I would have to think that having just shelled out $800-900 million to buy the Cubs and with the prospects of gaining financial help from the state or city virtually nil, that we best hold our breath. It may likely be that a new owner adopts the “band-aid” approach to Wrigley.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole idea would be to increase the number of seats
and/or corporate suites. This is how they would pay for the renovations.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suites, yes.
More seats, no. The capacity of about 41,500 is optimum for baseball. Too many more seats than that and all you get are a large number of bad seats.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone inform me what the "Triangle Building" refers to?
I don’t live in Chicago so maybe I’ve never seen this building and don’t know what importance it has to the team…
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here...
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/ballpark/expansion.jsp
http://www.wrigleyexpansion.com/articles/?p=62
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I met Crane a couple of weeks ago...
…before a Sat game that we were actually early arriving to. He walked right by me, and into the Captain Morgan club, so my wife and I went in to check it out because I hadn’t had the chance too as of yet. I walked right up to Craine and we chatted for a few minutes about how the Captain Morgan club came out nicer than he anticipated. He is a straight-up guy, shook my hand a couple of times, and is very approachable.
Jack
derv
@themightycub
by derv on Jun 29, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops - I mispelled his name the 2nd time. Sorry.
n/m
Jack
derv
@themightycub
by derv on Jun 29, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about making Wrigley a wi-fi zone?
with MLB now offering a gameday app for iphones (and other smartphones?) , perhaps the Cubs can offer wi-fi so fans can see replays and keep track of stats? I know some people on this site have mentioned that they have had difficulty with cell service….
by Manny Trillo on Jun 29, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a really good idea.
Wish I’d have thought of mentioning it. Maybe next time. Or… as I said, management DOES read here. Maybe they’ll see this one.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think AT&T park
and perhaps Turner Field are wi-fi hotspots…with the lack of jumbotrons at Wrigley right now, i think wi-fi would enhance a lot of fans experience…
by Manny Trillo on Jun 29, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turner field indeed is
And it’s free, too. Great to post facebook updates (home run! or I caught a foul ball!) using my ipod.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Jun 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would YOU generate revenue from that?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Cubs get a cut
from more people buying Gameday?
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by tony412 on Jun 29, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about that
But I don’t see how the club can reap dividends from a wi-fi zone, other than to have the provider install the infrastructure and give it away for free, and getting team bilateral sponsorship.
(Mr. Kenney, I’m looking for a job ;-) )
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's probably their best way of getting it.
Get a major wifi provider to get the sponsorship rights.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, can you introduce Jose to Mr. Kenney? :-)
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by zevkalman on Jun 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease?!?!
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I wouldn’t be surprised if Crane Kenney is reading these comments.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, we'll keep the EA posts
on the shelf for now
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by tony412 on Jun 29, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Crane Kenney
he is an AWESOME guy.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random questiona bout Gameday
I’m getting an Iphone within the next few weeks, is it a 1 time charge of $10 or do you have to pay a monthly fee?
"You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace."
by All The Way on Jun 29, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one time charge...
…per season.
The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.
by sanantonecub on Jun 29, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Currently, it is a one time charge.
However, it may change next season now that they’ve added a video stream to some games. I would expect next season all of the games will be available on streaming video. They will either charge a lot more or charge a monthly fee next year.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they charged for the playoffs, lst year, too, if I remember correctly.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Revenue from wi-fi at Wrigley
Collect email addresses and other info from people interested in Cubs paraphernalia. Partner with other companies (advertising $) to offer prizes, discounts, etc. with between inning games, contest, season long scavenger games, etc. AT&T/Giants does some of this stuff and the A’s have similar plans for their new ballpark (if/when it is built). Eventually sell subscriptions for more in-depth in-game updates supplied by Cubs. Make the wi-fi range a couple of blocks and sell to fans on Sheffield and rooftops as well.
by cliff on Jun 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's the answer
I hope the Cubs do, would be a great way to bring the modern world to the oldest park in baseball. Also a great way to appeal to “the next generation” of Cubs fans.
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by tony412 on Jun 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great stuff....
hopefully Mr. Kenney is reading this!
by Manny Trillo on Jun 29, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
charge for it.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's really the point?!?
A. A new ownership team is going to put in place their own strategic vision for the organization, the ballpark, etc.
B. Crane Kenney is likely out of a job once a new ownership team takes hold
I applaud Kenney for having such a forum. But kind of odd under the circumstances, don’t you think? He won’t be the guy in place implementing on any of this.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You seem awfully sure of something that hasn't been decided yet.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
You don’t need to be the head cashier at Wal-Mart to grasp that Tom Ricketts or Mark Utay is going to want to put his own executive team in place.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't be so sure.
Let’s see. The management team of the Cubs has made multiple millions of dollars for the team through good marketing. They sell out nearly every game regardless of how the team is doing. They’ve got huge dollar TV contracts in place and a worldwide fan base.
And you’d want to fire those people? That’d be really, really stupid.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From my experience, it doesn't matter how well the previous team does.
In most cases a new executive, or a new boss, wants “his” people instead of the other guy’s people. There are exceptions, but I don’t think there are many.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Jun 29, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nationals did not bring in all new people
when the got a new owner. Also, the Braves recently had an ownership change and didn’nt bring in all new people, they’ve been very successful and made very little changes.
From an operations stand-point, the Cubs have been wildly successful and it doesn’t make much sense to make many changes to personnel. Even from the baseball personnel people angle, they been pretty successful, going to the playoffs regularly over the last decade.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, since Kenney wasn't appointed by Zell
there shouldn’t be any animosity towards him. Hopefully.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
For those who were Mark Cuban fans, Cuban didn’t change any of the management people when he took over the Mavericks.
If the Cubs were a money-losing organization finishing in last place all the time, sure, then you sweep the old management out. But that’s not the case here.
What the Cubs need are MORE people in management, particularly on the baseball side, not DIFFERENT people.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The analogy is George W. Bush playing out the string after the November 2008 election
Kenney is a lameduck President. There is no other way to describe it, hence it is hard to get excited about his vision for things and how he intends to implement.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
W/O a vision...
How can you set goals? With out goals, what is the point?
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by HIGGY on Jun 29, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hand meet face
If you can’t understand that Crane Kenney and the current regime are lameducks, then I’m sorry I can’t help you.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hand meet face?
Wow, could you be more of a jerk?
by ARob1 on Jun 29, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he could.
You haven’t been here long enough to find out.
In any case, he’s likely wrong, so carry on.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, ha! That put a smile on my face :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Jun 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see.
I think Kenney has done a good job w/ transparency, through things like today’s luncheon. Hopefully he remains, or we get another president who follows his lead in terms of things like this.
by ARob1 on Jun 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is mild
my friend. He hasn’t told you to pound sand or get stuffed yet.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor analogy
Even if Crane is canned by the new owners, he can point to improvements he made while still at the Cubs when looking for his next job. Crane should be doing the best he can for his current employer, which it seems he is doing. Either the new owner(s) will value his efforts or someone else will.
by cliff on Jun 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That indeed is a poor analogy.
A better one is Crane is the equivalent of a non-political (permanent) government worker. All of those employees are kept when one administration leaves and another comes in.
BLou is referring to political appointees. That is something unique to government and doesn’t really exist in the private sector. There are actually different classification for political jobs.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your analogy, I think, is perfect.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeping Wrigley Current
is what will keep Wrigley around. Anything offered in “new” ballparks needs to be thoroughly investigated here. If Wrigley is allowed to become so out of date that it cannot meet the needs and expectations of the players and fans, the time will have arrived to start over somewhere else. Best example is lights — without lights the team could not stay there. So I say bring on the Jumbotron, wi-fi, bigger press box, triangle building (for batting cages and player accommodations) and any other amenities, trusting that the owners and management will do it right.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Jun 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The lights were put in...
… and night games added in such a way that it added to, rather than detracted from, Cubs history and traditions.
The other things can be done in exactly the same way.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cart before horse
Until Ricketts or Utay has say on the subject of longer-term vision for Wrigley Field it is hard therefore to get excited about any theories on reconstruction. Having just shelled out $800-900 million to buy the Cubs and with the prospects of gaining financial help from the state or city virtually nil, it’s silly to get carried away with talk of Wrigley renovation. Who knows, the new owner may adopt the “band-aid” approach to the ballpark’s needs. You and I don’t know.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The band-aid approach
would be a very short sighted way head into the future. Ownership will wind up paying, either now at today’s costs, or later at significantly higher costs.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Jun 29, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's going to pay for it?!?
The city and state surely aren’t going to help out the Cubs on renovation of Wrigley. And the Tribune Company for years got away with the “band-aid” approach to Wrigley.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
by BLou on Jun 29, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you only put
12,000 butts in seats per game, you can do that. It’s cheaper to make big fixes now, than constantly patch and bandaid. The Trib figured that out, perhaps too late.
There’s nothing to indicate that Rickets is not interested in the same improvements that have been brought up in the past few years.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tribune Company
has done an admirable job. Bleacher rebuilding, scoreboard updates, Captain Morgan Club, etc. Could they have done more? Of course. But ownership (whoever that may be) will have to dedicate a portion of revenue to stadium updates, or risk having to pay much more long term. It’s simply a function of business.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny how much of this happened
around the time they wanted to sell the team. It’s no coincidence that all of these things added to the value of the team.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still do not see how you can install
a Jumbotron anywhere. You’ve discussed a ‘roof-top’ location…which seems entirely ugly. Besides, how can you guarantee ALL spectators in the park see it — it would have to be awfully high — and even more ugly.
The only place to place this is — where the scoreboard was meant to be. Where it stands now. And I don’t want the current, historical board removed.
Sometimes, things don’t need to change for the sake of change.
Most of these boards are only used for crap, anyway with some 10% of the time devoted to baseball action. It’s usually mindless junk and a ton of commercials, anyway.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jun 29, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Crane Kenney "Deep Goat"?
Inquiring minds …
by jerry morales rules on Jun 29, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another question for the next round:
How are the Spanish-language broadcasts doing on 1200 AM? Are the Cubs seeing an increase in their Hispanic marketing efforts?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 29, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They are helping, and...
… management is definitely aware of the Hispanic market and would like to continue to grow it.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jumbotron at Wrigley
you have got to be kidding… I’m only 1 person, but I say no thanks in the strongest possible way….
LouPrules
by LouPrules on Jun 29, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm hesitant, too.
Mainly because it’s a slippery slope. Once the tron is there, it’s a quick-n-easy revenue source for the team—wedding/birthday/engagement announcements, commercials, etc. It would be hard for me as a team executive to say “no” to essentially free money.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said this above to.
I was for it before going to the Cell over this past weekend. Not anymore. The game felt like one big long commercial. If they could some how put in a clause saying “the Cubs organization can NEVER have more than 10% of material on this scoreboard being used to generate revenue” or something like that, I’d be okay with it.
I like replays. I like the fancy stats. I hate the promos, kiss cams, and the like.
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by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Raise the Upper Deck, Manage Parking, Better Bike Valet
I agree that the grandstand needs updating but my hope is that they can do this without significantly altering the sight lines/distance between home plate and the upper deck seats.
Most new ballparks have raised the height of their upper decks to accommodate more club boxes / club seats. I think the news out of New York suggests that teams can go too far in trying to lure in the supper rich, which diminishes the experience of the majority of attendees. The upper deck box seats are my favorite, best seats in all of MLB, and I would hate to see these seats diminished.
As for the Triangle Building, I think it is a great idea. Hopefully it does not increase the total number of parking spaces over existing. I don’t think the neighborhood can handle more traffic traveling directly to the ball park rather than facilities spread throughout the neighborhood.
Also, the bike valet is heavily used and should be planned for in the building. It is a popular amenity and doesn’t take up a lot of space. The new Nationals ballpark has a heavily used facility and the city is not nearly as bike friendly.
by mph3 on Jun 29, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post Al.
Thanks for the recap, now all we need is a new owner.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Al for all the information
from the luncheon. Hopefully this ownership change will take place before the season ends, so maybe they have a possibility of improving the ballclub to make the playoofs and win a World Series this year!
by cubdreamer on Jun 29, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Al. I applaud the Cubs for holding this lunch
and give longtime supporters a chance to have a little Q&A.
Having been on their side of something like that (opening yourself up to public questioning), I can tell you it can be a little worrysome.
Sounds like the group was respectful, asked informed questions and expressed their concerns in a mature manner.
The fact they plan to do this another couple of times means you didn’t scare the living crap out of them ;)
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by Zeke on Jun 29, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What about
the Budweiser building? Seems like you could see that from just about everywhere in the park, and you wouldn’t have to deal with a rooftop owner.
That said, I have never, ever felt like I needed a jumbotron to add to my experience at Wrigley. I would much rather see improvements made to the bathrooms, concourses, concessions (though the new bleachers are better), etc before a jumbotron.
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by tomas21 on Jun 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not put a jumbotron where the juniper bushes are?
It could go to black (or dark green, or whatever) for each pitch, but at a minimum be turned on between innings, and before and after games. Would bring in a lot more advertising revenue, and could be seen by just about everyone except in the bleachers. It wouldn’t be as big as at many stadiums, but that’s OK.
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by zambranofan on Jun 29, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With such a jumbotron...
… not allowed to be used except before games and between innings, it probably wouldn’t be cost effective.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jumbotron
Am I the only one who thinks the idea of a Jumbotron at Wrigley is an awful Idea..
When it comes to baseball, the less technology the better. Hi Def TV at home ok…… Hi Def at any ballpark, much less Wrigley Field is abhorrent to me… The impression I want my grandchildren to have when they walk up the isle for the first time into this glorious park is the grass and the ivy, not some giant TV screen
LouPrules
by LouPrules on Jun 29, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Kenney, those alternate jerseys look like a slow-pitch softball uniform
Dump ’em!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Z would like a word with you.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 29, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed. Because coddling him has worked well so far.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like them for the fact that it generates extra revenue for the team.
Pinstripes ruin any other uniform though, greys or the blues.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 30, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh on the revenue
I’m not sure that it makes a significant difference.
The Yankees lead the league every year in merchandising, btw. They have a home jersey and a road jersey — and that’s it.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't suppose
anyone mentioned anything about the poor execution of the Cubs Club this year? Or about how those of us who bought into it still haven’t heard anything about the t-shirts that were shipping out “April 1st”? Or the onfield event that no one knows about?
Seems like this was the “lost promotion” of sorts, except I thought it was a really good deal, if it would have been done properly.
by aphoward on Jun 29, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea about this.
You’re talking about the higher-level club, right, that promised extra benefits? It’s possible no one there today actually bought one of those.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 29, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounded like a great time!
Too bad they couldn’t have thrown some tri-tip on the grill for you guys, Al.
I’m also a fan of Crane Kenney, ever since his comments about wanting to emulate the Red Sox business model. I suppose it’s possible that Tom Ricketts or Mark Utay would jettison the current front office in favor of their own guys, but that all depends on how much Ricketts and Utay fancy themselves as baseball visionaries.
One nice thing about the Arte Moreno era is that he retained the Angels brain trust when he became team owner, from Bill Stoneman on down to Mike Scioscia. Although I’ve been on record as preferring a general manager and field skipper for the Cubs with younger ideas concerning roster construction, I wouldn’t mind seeing Crane Kenny stay on.
by CaliCub on Jun 29, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
7 years since I've been to Wrigley
So maybe I’m a little nostalgic.
But while the thought of a Jumbotron in Wrigley ills me, somehow a rooftop one seems thrilling.
As far as the wi fi stuff I guess you have to roll with the times. But to me the thought of people going to Wrigley to watch the game on their cell phone seems almost tragic if not somewhat ridiculous….“and here’s me, getting hit in the head by a line drive as I watch on my ipod.” Then again maybe if Bartman only had an ipod or was twittering or something…
by BucknerKongCardenal on Jun 30, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ushers
The management should address why they need to position the elderly ushers in those little seats in the main aisle behind the field box seats. They take up too much room and block those walking by. If they need an usher at every single aisle, then they should let them have the last seat in the corner of the section. Perhaps with the success of the team, they might revisit removing that extra row of seats they put on the field boxes a few years ago.
It seems that in Miller Park that the Brewers get away with perhaps a tenth of the number of ushers, as well as crowd control and security personnel, as do the Cubs. Why is this?
Within the past six years here there seems to be such a constant passing stream of these persons, along with vendors, that from our seats in the (so-called) terrace boxes we are constantly craning around them to see the field.
And please, especially, no blaring rock music between every pitch (only to be abruptly shut off when the pitcher starts his delivery).
by Tom Mason on Jun 30, 2009 1:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see a limit on walking in the aisles during innings.
People sit there for the entire break, then get up as play starts. Well, if you have to go, you have to go . . . but make people wait until there is a break in the action to return.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or at least only between batters.
I like the NHL rule where they won’t let you go in if the clock is running.
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by camnorris14 on Jun 30, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about raising the scoreboard?
As in actually moving it up higher. Where the current LED board runs underneath it, if the old scoreboard was moved up, a new, taller, rectangular Jumbotron could replace the current light board.
While it wouldn’t be a huge square Jumbotron, if could be a long, rectangular board. With the old scoreboard on top, it would maintain the charm of the old board, while providing the replays that fans want.
If a Jumbotron couldn’t go on a rooftop, and plans to put it on the Wrigley roof don’t work, the Cubs might be able to squeeze one in there.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get how they pick which teams to put on the scoreboard
Obviously, space is a limitation because of league expansion.
What I don’t understand is, they’ll be a few “NITE GAME” listings while other matchups are actually happening. Or, sometimes dvisional rivals will be playing but those games aren’t tracked.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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