Cubs Find Favorite Punching Bag Ready And Waiting, Beat Pirates 3-1
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 7:20 AM CDT
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NOTE FROM AL: Due to the quick game last night, this recap was actually posted at 8:35 pm Monday... I've moved it to the top of the front page this morning, for those who weren't online Monday night. (This is why it refers to "today" and the other games still in progress.)
Last year, the Cubs were 14-4 against the Pirates -- 7-2 at Wrigley Field, and 7-2 at PNC Park.
Thanks to the wacky schedules that we are now forced to become used to in major league baseball, the Cubs, who had played the Pirates 12 times by this calendar date in 2008, had faced them for only one series so far this year before Monday night -- winning two of three at Wrigley Field in late May. Today marked the Cubs' first visit to PNC Park this year; they had done so twice by the end of May, 2008.
Maybe this is what the Cubs needed -- a reminder of where they did well in the past. They sure looked like the Cubs of 2008 in an efficient 3-1 win over the Pirates, starting the final leg of a so-far-unsuccessful 1-6 road trip with a victory.
Thanks to the fast win, this will be a fast recap.
This is how Cubs teams won a year ago -- timely hitting, the occasional home run, good defense and solid pitching. Rich Harden, who got hit pretty hard in his last two starts, was nearly unhittable Monday. He scattered nine hits -- eight singles and a double, threw strikes (65 in 102 pitches), and with one walk and nine strikeouts looked like the Harden we got last year when he was acquired from Oakland, the dominant Harden, the guy who could strike batters out almost at will.
Where have these guys been the last week?
The runs scored with seemingly great ease -- a timely two-out hit from Andres Blanco with a runner in scoring position (when's the last time we saw that? -- answer: I can't even recall), a home run from Ryan Theriot (when's the last time we saw that? -- answer: June 7), and a RBI double from Milton Bradley after Geovany Soto walked leading off the fourth inning (and when was Milton's last RBI? Believe it or not, more than two weeks ago, June 12, when he had a two-RBI double off Kevin Slowey of the Twins).
Now, that's more like it, right? Obviously, there's a lot more work to be done, but a win like this gives something to build on. In addition to Harden's fine pitching, Carlos Marmol had an uneventful inning (the last time he had a truly uneventful inning: four appearances ago in Detroit), and Kevin Gregg finished up easily for his 13th save. Jake Fox had a pair of hits and scored the first run of the game. And Sam Fuld, just recalled from Iowa, got into the game pinch-running for Fox... and promptly got caught stealing. Sorry, Jessica.
It was the Cubs' fastest nine-inning game of the season, two hours and seventeen minutes. The win moved the Cubs to within a half game of idle Cincinnati. The Brewers, at this writing, lead the Mets so, with the Cardinals apparently about to lose to Tim Lincecum and the Giants, Milwaukee will go into first place alone, a game ahead of St. Louis and remaining 3.5 games ahead of the Cubs.
There is work yet to do. But tonight makes a good starting point. Keep up the good work.
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I don't care who they are playing right now
I will take a win anyway we can get it. I hope we make it two in a row tomorrow. This will be a much nicer night than last night.
by LT on Jun 29, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least they won
since I couldn’t get it on TV in downstate Illinois ON MY BIRTHDAY!
But, seriously, if Harden rounds back into form, the Cubs will have the best starting pitching in the league.
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
by zambranofan on Jun 29, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
happy birthday!
sorry to hear you couldn’t see the game…i hate when that happens
by daily2b on Jun 29, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
happy birthday!
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
one more solid outing from Harden and we can trade him and actually get something for him. Oh wait, thats right, Hendry is in charge.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Jun 29, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How about
Elvis Andres from Texas? They could really use a starting pitcher, and we could really use a quality middle infielder. He’s a shortstop, but that’s ok because Theriot isn’t.
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Jun 29, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is zero chance
that Texas will give up Andrus. We’d have a better chance of getting Pujols.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
He’s young and the reason that Michael Young was moved to third. They want to hold onto him.
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
by Musicdude10 on Jun 29, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Elvis has left the building
and we still can’t get him ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why in the world
Would we trade someone who has the talent to be one of the best starting pitchers in the majors? All Andrus is is a worse version or our current shortstop.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah ummm no
If you rather have theriot you are nuts
by Glacier on Jun 29, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
What am I missing here? In what aspect of the game is Andrus better than Theriot, other than fielding.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big difference in the point of their careers.
Andrus is super cheap at the minimum for the next 3 seasons. Cost is very important to the Rangers as they don’t want to add payroll.
Too early to say what kind of player Andrus will turn out to be. Give him a little time. The Rangers brought him up right from AA so it’ll be a couple of years before we will know.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus looks to have a nice future
But my argument is If you’re trying to win now, why swap the player on your team with the second best average, and believe it or not, third most bombs, for a player in development. The disrespect for Theriot around here is really starting to tick me off. His fielding is below average, but that will lose you one game at most.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
and Theriot is a solid .290 to .300 hitter, year in and year out.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt know you meant for winning now
even then i still think id take andrus. there is a BIG difference in there fielding. but like i said if you are talking about winning now than yeah its debatable but for the future andrus is going to be better
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
other than doing what you need most from a SS, theriot is great.
I will never get this.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he's scrappy
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
You wouldn’t want J-Roll, just because he isn’t a great fielder.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not particularly
Although, it would be nice to have a baserunner who is actually as fast as they think they are.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For that topic
Refer to this post.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's solid
And his offense is a lot better than Theriot’s.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
you should look up their batting averages…
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes b/c thats the best way to evaluate offense
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh is it
Look up homers and rbi’s while you’re at it.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
big difference
Rollins: .211/6/23
Theriot: .283/7/29
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I thought I was the only Theriot supporter on this whole site.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not at all
in fact, when I read your comment earlier it made me want to write a fanpost to put an end to this Theriot bashing nonsense once and for all. The guy has the highest BA of our players that have played all year, and has nothing to hurt the team.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and has nothing to hurt the team.
while I have grudgingly come around to view Theriot as a good batter and a competent short stop, that’s all he is — competent. His range is small, and his arm is… not good.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he STILL doesn't know how to tag out runners
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Fox's fault
Trammell has been spending all of his time teaching Fox to play third, thus Theriot’s defense around the bag (which Trammell used to work extensively with him on) is slipping.
Or something like that.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes about as much sense as
Some of the other arguments we see on here!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying.
These last few days have been reminiscent of the end of the 2008 season.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I knew you were being facetious
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
You’re one of the sages around here.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I be Thyme?
then all we need is a Rosemary and Parsley and we’ll go on tour.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's all yours.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be parsley.
I love that stuff. I don’t care if it’s a garnish. I’m eating it.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ballhawk, are you going to Scarborough Fair?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe, but if Simon & Garfunkel turn us down
I say we hook on with Frankie Valli and the Jersey Boys tour.
Yep, we’d call ourselves “The Four Seasonings”
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw - thanks for having my back on the Michael Jackson fanpost
I don’t know what KOW was thinking but if Al hadn’t closed comments, I think Mt. Ballhawk might have erupted.
To paraphrase Hank Hill: “that girl ain’t right…”
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't look at that post at all.
Now I think I’ll go see. :D
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man...
…now I gotta read that thread. I’d been avoiding it and almost all Jacko-related online content like the plague.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just got done reading it.
wow.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tevye quotes
BLou being BLou
Worf with a heart
KOW being KOW
Nipples on Buttcheeks
everything a BCB OT post needs!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, more of a Tevye-inspired comment
Or a paraphrase. But, yeah. It had everything.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way
the music is more listenable too because you’re getting old. :P
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting?
I suppose the over-40 crowd would take exception to me saying I’m already there, but I sure know I’m not 20 anymore!
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read the Jacko thread.
If that’s not Klassic KOW – unhinged, illogical, reactionary, barely decipherable – I don’t know what is.
And according to her sig line, she’s on Twitter as “puckyprosecutor” but, when I searched for that user name, no results came up. Unbelievable.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y'know, I like to think that I'm pretty good about
not getting pissed off about stuff on here — I do slip sometimes.
That thread, however, is as angry as I’ve been on this site . . . and a week later, I’m not embarrassed about being angry.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
The Shanghai guy was livid, I can tell you that.
I’ve definitely learned a lesson (that I hope I remember) . . . unless she’s talking to me, I’m staying away.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read it. Wow.
Just needed a cell number and a pot luck list to make it all time classic.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow, I don't think I'm invited to that picnic
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shucks
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his defense hurts us
do people actually think he is a good short stop?
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not according to UZR.
Theriot’s defense at SS saved the Cubs 4.1 runs over a league average replacement in 2007, .4 runs over a league average replacement in 2008, and 4.9 runs over a league average replacement thus far in 2009. For his career, Theriot has saved 8.4 runs over a league average replacement at SS.
So, based on this controversial but pretty detailed defensive rating system, Ryan Theriot’s defense has not hurt the Cubs, it has helped them.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I just spent the last 20 minutes or so looking up various stats to make this argument. He’s not Orlando Cabrera, but he’s still a valuable asset.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 30, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's competent
but I’d still like to upgrade him if possible.
Servicable isn’t the same as good.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at career numbers
Then tell me that June 30 is an indicator of how they will finish
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So since Rollins and Theriots
range factors only have a .04 point difference, I guess Theriot is solid too. There settled.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the old "I'm right so this is done retort". Damn, you told me.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is half of the game
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 30, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like
I"m the only one here that doesn’t want to trade Harden. We need him and he isn’t worth another bat, unless it’s a very good bat.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only do I think trading Harden is stupid....
but I am really pissed off about the Tribune’s “fan” poll in which 57% said we should let Zambrano go.
DO PEOPLE THINK GOOD STARTING PITCHERS GROW ON TREES?????
Actually, I think many of the voters in the poll where probably White Sux fans hoping to spark a trade for Big Z.
Seriously, letting either Harden or Zambrano go is a typical old style Cub dumb ass move (see, “Brock, Lou”, “Matlock, Bill”). Starting pitching has not been the problem on this team. Timely hitting has been. Last time I looked, neither Z nor Harden were being paid to hit (I know that this has not sunk in for Z yet). Z is the best, most durable starter the Cubs have had since the first incarnation of Greg Maddux.
I really can’t live with watching a great Cubs starting pitcher celebrating a series win for another team.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Jun 29, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent a lot of time tonight
arguing with a friend who thought that was a good idea. He seemed to believe we could give away Z and then magically get Peavy (la la la la he’s hurt can’t hear you) or Cliff Lee.
Why we would do this was mystifying. And there is no way it could happen without some pretty serious 3 team trade action going on.
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 29, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that article was a joke
plain and simple
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we could have traded Heilman to the Indians for DeRosa
and they would have been better off. Perez was put in tonight in the 9th with White Sox up by two. He hit the first two
batters HARD, walked the next guy , one wild pitch and two hits. Gave up 4 runs in 2/3rds of an inning. It would have taken Heilman at least two inning to do that ( just kidding I still kind of like him for long relief).
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And for your peace of mind...
Fuld was caught stealing on a pitchout. :)
by srwilly on Jun 29, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He calls a lot
Of things correctly. If I’m not mistaken he’s called two of Hoffs homers this year.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he really is a fantastic color commentator
especially when he gives insights to what catchers are doing (signs, etc). I really learn a lot from him watching games.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only does Brenly know his stuff
But his presentation also is good. He talks smoothly, clearly, doesn’t stumble over himself. He seems like a natural broadcaster.
I liked him in his first stint with the Cubs, back in the ’90s on radio. I think WGN wanted him to stick around in the off-season and do studio announcing and call-in shows, etc., but he decided to get back into the on-field side of baseball.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I really like Bob.
And he and Len keep getting better at playing off each other.
There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons
by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is good...
…in fact he is damn good!
He is easy to listen to and he talks in a way that is very easy to understand. He also doesn’t speak like he invented the game, like a previous Cub’s TV color guy.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Jun 29, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to break bad on Stone
I like him, and I like Brenly, too. Now, I’ll talk crap about Hawk all night …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, then I will...
Stoney is a now a bitter man, with an axe to grind.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
But, I also agree with everyone above who likes Brenly. He’s cogent, doesn’t hesitate to criticize and explain WHY he’s criticizing, and he and Len have a real good thing together.
I think we have several of the best broadcasters in the business.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree. I'm sure there are findable comments
where I moaned about Brenly when he arrived. He’s evolved as a broadcaster and become great.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did too when he first started...
but I made an effort last year to listen to Len and Bob more and I’m a better fan for it.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was one who previously disliked brenley as well
he has changed me though. good work BB
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was great on the radio, too, and although I was suspicious
of his re-hiring (Dusty wants a friend to kiss his butt), and at first it seemed that he was too easy or silent on poor Cubs play and decisions, I think he was and is reasonably critical of the team’s play and decisions.
by DudeVf11 on Jun 30, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved Bob on WGN
when he was there the first time and was ecstatic when the D Backs hired him as manager. He did what he was supposed to do, win a championship. I like his style as a manager and broadcaster.
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I actually turned on just as he was on.
Can’t blame him for that because I am sure he did not steal on his own.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all I know is we are now 1-0 with Fuld
now, had we done this a week ago like I called for… ;)
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by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BB mentioned that Fuld will be starting in center field tomorrow.
Bradley’s getting the next couple of days off to get his act together and Fukudome is going to right field.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After Bradley's nice day today...
I’d actually like to see him in there tomorrow and see if he can get on a little roll here.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 29, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He hasn’t been that bad as of recent.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is his left handed swing.
That’s what he’s going to work with Von Joshua on.
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by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and it stinks too
Cause thats the reason we signed him.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley looks much slower
from the left side of the plate. He swings through a lot of fastballs, fouls off breaking balls. I was watching a game from last year when he was with Texas and he seemed to start his bat a lot faster. He seems indecisive.
by stickdino on Jun 29, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been a Bradley basher
I think he should start tuesday. His one AB on the left side last night, he smoked the ball to second. He gets a couple of knocks and we sit him? Cubs need his bat, start him.
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by Grockcubs on Jun 30, 2009 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you.
He’s had lots of problems hitting lefthanded this year. But we really don’t have any choice other than to let him work it out.
Despite my “Bradley must go” call, I’m still hoping he turns it around.
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by Al on Jun 30, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he would be "working it out"
He’d be getting heavy time with VJ instead of starting.
If a game or two helps him really get going, I say its worth it. Plus, it would let him rest whatever nagging injury is next on the list.
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton's LH splits are KILLING his numbers.
He’s hitting for a .651 OPS in 149 PAs lefthanded (and, FWIW, he’s BELOW the Mendoza line in batting average), while he’s hitting for a .897 OPS in 64 PAs righthanded. I’m tempted to suggest he just stick to batting righthanded until he gets his confidence up but then he may get only rustier from the left side. Plus, that’s a pretty small sample of right-handed hitting.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow I have to change my schedule
and I may actually have to watch a game. Might be bad luck for the Cubs.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be surprised
if that actually happens. Bradley had a very good day today.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't we have 1 post on this blog
That don’t have something about Mark Derosa in it. Geeeez
Go Cubs Go!!!!
by cubsluver22 on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
… I didn’t mention him.
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by Al on Jun 29, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only mentioned him to get your attention
that was the ugliest thing I have seen in baseball all year.
From now on I might start every post with " What would DeRosa think of this ?"
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WWDRD?
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Now that's funny!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll buy a bracelet!
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heckler post
Heckler had a good article about DeRosa that was directed at Derosa fans like me. I am now duly chastised.
wccubfan
by wccubfan on Jun 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peavy!
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the "highlights" of Perez's outing last night.
Pretty scary stuff – he nailed Alexei Ramirez in the head and then got Jermaine Dye on the wrist. The Sox players seemed to handle it pretty well at the time, but I don’t know whether there was retribution later in the game.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the good Dr.
is yelling at Indians fans about retribution.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard he tried to scuttle onto the field...
…and nail Perez in the ass with one of his pincers but was captured and subsequently boiled and devoured with butter by security staff.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he knows where I am
and so far I haven’t seen/heard a thing.
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by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he emailed me last night
with, basically, “WHERE’S YOUR NL CENTRAL NEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!”
I told him to quit caring about other teams, and get back to caring about his own.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
need more
carapace.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea what "carapace" was so I looked it up. From Wikipedia:
A carapace is a dorsal section of the exoskeleton or shell in a number of animal groups, including arthropods such as crustaceans and arachnids (crabs and their relatives and spiders and their relatives) as well as vertebrates such as chelonians, order Testudines, turtles and tortoises.
Learn something new every day…
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by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
there might be some of that in the hat thingy.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
common usage/slang
also includes references to people’s skulls (specifically the top and back of the head) or head protection. Technically, its the back (dorsal), but as you can see in the image above, it appears to the unedumicated as part of the head.
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by CyberCyclist on Jun 30, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if he's hitting White Sox
perhaps Phil Rogers should suggest Perez be traded too, since hitting White Sox batters clearly means you let emotions get the best of you at all times.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a tool
itd be nice if chicago had any decent writers. miles sully rogers….. all complete jokes who know nothing.
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never had a bone to pick with Bruce Miles
he seems well-informed and reports what he knows. More often than not he doesn’t appear to interject his feeling into stories (as Sullivan can do from time-to-time) or write a knee-jerk reaction (as Rogers did and does).
So if you’re going to read a Cubs beat writer, I’d recommend Miles actually.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He’s not afraid to be critical, but doesn’t go over the edge.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of hitting batters hard
watching angels v. rangers and vivente padilla almonst clocked vlad…what a jerk that guy is
by daily2b on Jun 29, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Perez clearly had NO control
but it was UGLY. I would not be surprised to see Ramirez or Dye out for a few games or on the DL. It was really scary.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is too bad
i know that stuff hurts. i have a bruise from gettin beaned LAST WEEK!! and that was just 80-85 mph
by daily2b on Jun 29, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whodathunkit
Mike Fontenot is our defensive replacement at 3B.
But anyway, good win Cubbies!
Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.
by DGU on Jun 29, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get why Lou didn't just move Freel to 3B.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game
for Bradley — 2-4, and one of those two outs was a SMOKED liner off a 94 MPH fastball; just right at a guy. He made some good catches in right, too.
And how about that bullpen, issuing NO WALKS!
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol especially
8 pitches, 7 strikes. Just what the doctor ordered!
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by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol is definitely
starting to throw strikes. In his last two appearances, if he’s missed the strike zone, they’ve still been close.
by stickdino on Jun 29, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No walks, beautiful
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by Grockcubs on Jun 30, 2009 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give an answer a shot:
Al: “Where have these guys been the last week”
They have NOT been playing the PIRATES!
by The E-Man on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, whatever works!
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by Al on Jun 29, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Casey McGehee hit a grand slam for the Brewers tonight.
First of his career. He made a silly error off a lazy pop-up, and proceeded to come around in the bottom half of the inning and hit the tar off the ball to dead center @ Miller Park.
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by dtpollitt on Jun 29, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, and living in Mets territory
I saw both plays. Made me think for a minute that he could’ve filled in admirably for Rammy, but then again had Fox been called up a month and a half ago he probably could’ve done just as well if not better than McGehee has been doing.
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by ambrosiadreams on Jun 29, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true
But I do wish we had McGhee back, because Fox isn’t a middle infielder.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm certainly
not going to be pining for Casey McGehee, thanks.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said I was pining?
I just said it would be nice to have him back, after all, he is on the 2009 pocket schedule.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next DeRosa!
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 29, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you suppose the Cubs could trade
to get McGehee back, anyway???
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z, of course.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get 'er done, Jim
Z likes pitching at MIller Park, anyway …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Soriano and Bradley
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hey
throw in Soto.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially if he's got a few bags . . .
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the better!
Think of how big Prince will get when he has a whole nother set of munchies.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The consequences could be disasterous!
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely don't think Hendry should try to get him back...
…but it appears to have been an unfortunate decision to let him go. He could have taken over third base seamlessly after Aramis went down and spared the team a lot of confusion. And if he’d given the Cubs this much production, well, they may not be looking up at the Brewers right now.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which you know
is a condition devoutly to be wished. to not. be. looking up.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not unless a safe or anvil is headed your way.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not even then
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Good satire
This was a joke post, right?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I overstated things a bit by implying McGehee alone could've put the Cubs in first place.
However, I do believe Hendry made a mistake by letting Casey go. This team went into the season with next to no depth at the third base position, and McGehee could have provided that. And I would say Casey’s .964 OPS (in 125 PAs) speaks for itself.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as I've said before
Miles was supposed to be “that Guy.”
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I’m not going to lash Hendry for taking a pass on Casey F. McGehee. Boy, if only all GMs could do their jobs in hindsight, everybody would go 162-0.
And yes, you overstated things by a lot more than just “a bit.”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not about hindsight.
It’s about foresight – there was no one standing behind Aramis Ramirez at third base. I don’t think it was necessarily within Hendry’s power to predict the way McGehee has broken out. No one saw that coming.
But I don’t see what it could have hurt to keep him in the Cubs organization until they identified another player clearly capable of backing up third base – and, no, Corey Koskie doesn’t count.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
Based on Ramirez’s history, he figured Fontenot or Miles could handle 3B for the 10-20 games Ramirez typically misses in a season. Nobody — and I mean nobody — could have foreseen a scenario in which he would miss two months.
Maybe Cubs fans have found a replacement for all their DeRo angst.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one could have foreseen a scenario...
…. in which a starting player gets seriously injured?! After losing Nomar in ’05? After losing DLee in ’06? After losing Soriano twice last season?! After Kerry Wood and Mark Prior?! You construct a roster with depth because any player can get seriously hurt at any time.
C’mon, NBR, you’re still stuck on the individual instead of the issue. This isn’t about Mark DeRosa or Casey McGehee. It’s about risk management – poor risk management.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by what I said
Nobody could have foreseen Ramirez being out of the lineup for two months. Find me a team that has a backup at every position that’s equal to the starter, and I’ll give you $1,000 fictional dollars.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he was saying equal to the starter
I think he was saying competent to play the position.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, but I never said that, did I?
I never said the Cubs should have a backup who’s equal to the starter. But they needed to have a reasonable backup at every position. Micah Hoffpauir at 1B? Reasonable. Koyie Hill at C? Reasonable. Joey Gathright as 5th OF? More reasonable than some might say. Aaron Miles at 2B? OK, probably not reasonable, but it’s the thought that counts.
There was no one to backup the SS and 3B positions coming out of spring training. No one. That was the problem. Casey McGehee would have been a reasonable 3B backup to keep stashed at Iowa. Grooming Jake Fox for the job would’ve been reasonable as well – especially after Corey Koskie vanished and ultra-especially after Aramis went down.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's a great point. The capable backup doesn't need to be on the MLB
roster, but the contingency plan needs to be in place.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just like...
…it was great to have Andy White in Iowa in case Theriot got hurt. Of course, Blanco came up anyway.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The backup was in place
His name is Mike Fontenot. And Miles was supposed to play 2B in that case.
Not Hendry’s fault Miles is hitting 100 points below his average the past two years.
Wagging your finger at Hendry for not keeping Casey McGehee is laughable. Wag it at him for giving Miles a two-year deal all you want.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm wagging because of that, too.
But Fontenot was not a reasonable replacement. He’d never played 3B at the major league level and had barely played there in the minors. Plus, y’know, he was essentially the starting second baseman. McGehee’s natural position was third base.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't think Fonty was actually the backup
Sadly, I think they thought Miles was.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seem to recall...
…Lou or Hendry saying something to this effect – that Miles would see time at 2B, SS and 3B. Again, that just seems like a drastic overvaluing of his skill-set.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they looked at last year's stats
“Oh, he played there.”
I’m only being kind of facetious . . . it seems like there was no real scouting done at all. He was available and they jumped on the chance.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dood
EVERYTHING has eben a drastic overvaluing of his skill set. You can trace every infield problem back to Miles not being the player Lou & Jim expected him to be.
Fonty at third? Because Miles can’t do it.
Riot plays almost every game at short? Because Miles can’t do it.
No RISP for Sori to K with? Miles can’t hit.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fontenot, with his 85 major league at-bats against LHP
That was a pretty big gamble to assume that he could hit LHP like he hits RHP no matter the position. I guess Miles was the insurance option, but hindsight is 20/20.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 30, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think the position did matter...
…or at least it may have. Leave Fontenot at his natural position, where he excels defensively, and maybe his bat is more consistent. And if it’s not, use a league average guy like Bobby Scales to take ABs vs. LHP. But don’t give Aaron Miles a two-year deal.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't defend Hendry on the length of Miles' deal
but I will defend him for signing him.
And I will defend Hendry for waving bye-bye to McGehee.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, well...
…gambling on Aramis’ well-being to the extent he did was far too rich for my blood. And I don’t think Aaron Miles – on any type of contract – could have given the Cubs anything that Bobby Scales couldn’t have.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Hendry honestly thought Aaron Miles could play third base...
…well, then I really have to question his presence of mind. Maybe he was distracted by the Peavy deal.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe after getting Roberts, Fontenot was destined to play 3rd...
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with them letting McGehee go.
What I have a problem with was the Cubs not playing Jake Fox at third base immediately after Aramis went down (at least in Iowa).
His .946 OPS (in 56 PAs) would have helped a lot in the first month after Aramis went down.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah...
…if they’d let McGehee go and turned to Jake Fox and said, “Alright, damnit, you’re playing third base come hell or highwater,” I wouldn’t have a problem with releasing McGehee. It just seems like the Cubs figured the third base thing would work itself out, and I guess it has – but the team has suffered.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
While you can’t necessarily plan for a two-month injury (insert Milton Bradley pun here), the Cubs left themselves extremely vulnerable at third base.
And with a guy killing the ball at Triple-A begging to play third, why it wasn’t done in the aftermath of the injury continues to boggle my mind. That’s why the Cubs have roving instructors – send the Infield Instructor to Iowa on May 9 (Day 1: Post-Ramirez) and have him teach Fox third base, instead of relying on Trammell to do so at the Major League level.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
b/c craptastic middle infielders are the thing we’re missing most.
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by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
This craptastic infielder would be leading our team in ops if he was on it.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 29, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing he's playing third base then.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Case of the bobblehead
My Harden bobblehead I got in the mail was damaged and had to be on DL. He had 2 bad starts.
I fixed it and he dominated tonight. Coincidence??
by ak123 on Jun 29, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not at all.
Encase that thing in bubblewrap and store in a cool, dry place.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Kip Wells Bobblehead has been
In the freezer since he signed with the Cardinals for the 2007 season. He has never been any good since.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I left my Prior, Dusty, Woody & Sammy mini bobbleheads in the freezer when I moved out of downtown...
I wonder if they are still there?
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why are people freezing their bobbleheads?
is this something common?
by Glacier on Jun 29, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The moral of this story is.......
bobbleheads are silly, STOP BUYING THEM!!!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never bought one in my life. Mine were a gift from a good friend...
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must give them away at every Milwaukee home game,
my cousin-in-law has a closet full of ’em.
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by Blue W on Jun 29, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been to one game at Miller Park
and they gave away Pete Vuckovich bobbleheads. I was cursed at by some mildly intoxicated 20-something fan because I wouldn’t give mine to him. I had on a Cubs jacket, which probably outraged him even more….. and they were playing the Astros.
by stickdino on Jun 29, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I would BUY a Kip Wells Bobblehead ????
Got it in Pittsburgh in 03. Going back through the airport in the morning I got selected for the extra security check and the guy laughed when he was going through my stuff and said " You are wearing a Cubs hat but you have a Kip Wells bobblehead ?"
Sorry Kip I never would have killed your career and put you in the freezer if you had not signed with the Cardinals.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 29, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Prior bobblehead
is on the DL
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 29, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how it was packaged.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
by Blue W on Jun 29, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for some reason,
I keep finding it in my linen closet. weird.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.
by CyberCyclist on Jun 29, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn't come with the official towel drill® towel?
you got gypped my friend.
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by Blue W on Jun 29, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has it lost weight...
…since you’ve had it.
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by MPH73 on Jun 29, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have a
Pujols bobblehead? If so freeze it too.
by LT on Jun 29, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you might be confusing a bobblehead
with a voo doo doll.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Jun 29, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe if you get
a braun, pujols, and fielder bobblehead and give them the same treatment. i’m just sayin’.
by tim815 on Jun 29, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can leave that thing right where it is.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 30, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the good news front...
Rami scheduled to begin rehab assignment this Thursday! Boo-yah.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how many games is he going to play
by jesus christos on Jun 29, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't heard that yet... I'm guessing at least a week's worth.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-5
is what I saw.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds right.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saweet
I’m going to the July 10 game against the Cards. Looks like maybe he’ll be back.
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Jun 29, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the case
There’s a good chance he’ll be back during the Braves series next week.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's good news
even if I am kind of bummed. It sounds like I’m going to just miss him for the Brewer series this weekend.
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by Blue W on Jun 29, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he goes on a rehab assignment Thursday...
… and plays 4-5 games, the most likely day for return would be Friday, July 10 vs. the Cardinals.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do we know where?
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly with the Chiefs
They’re at Kane County through Friday.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit
Right team, wrong locale
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
boy
if he goes to Kane County, it’s gonna be a mad-house.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any clue where he'll do his rehab?
It’d be great if we get him in Peoria… maybe he and Josh Vitters can have a chat, and he can remind Josh how to hit home runs…
by lswaidz on Jun 29, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing no Peoria. Although that would be great for P-town.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would assume not
although I wouldn’t mind it. Just a stone’s throw for me.
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by Blue W on Jun 29, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just glad I'll get to see him when they come out to play the Dodgers...
My first trip to Chavez Ravine.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never been that far west
the renovations look great on tv.
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by Blue W on Jun 29, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs are out of town
until July 4. Although they are at Kane County before that, so it’s possible the Cubs will have him play for Peoria over there, since it’s so close.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 29, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs play at Kane County...
… Thursday & Friday. Then they are home for a week. That probably makes the most sense.
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by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden's First Win Since May 12....
that’s sad
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by In Piniella We Trustiella on Jun 29, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seems like...
the first normal win for the cubs since than too.
by TJ3117 on Jun 29, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Tonight was very much like 2008.
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by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 29, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gregg is finally starting to look like the guy we THOUGHT we signed...
by lswaidz on Jun 29, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i bet the warmer weather is helping his knee
its hard to get loose in the cold, esp after surgery.
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by Allie on Jun 29, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was always that guy...
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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 29, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So good to see Rich Harden get back to his old self.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 29, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lilly vs. Ohlendorf tomorrow.
I like our chances. Hopefully we can get hot before the ASB.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 29, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how a win
make me feel so much better. :D
by sue369 on Jun 29, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MAYBE JUST MAYBE....
This is the series that turns the team around . It’s a W and we will take it…Go Cubs ..
by cubs north on Jun 29, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
people said that when the cubs swept cleveland
by jesus christos on Jun 29, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
people say that this is next year every year. I dunno why we can’t hope that this series is the series where they turn it around.
If they can split with the Suds and Cards on this trip, I’ll be happy. If they actually gain ground before the all-star break, I’ll be ecstatic.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 29, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
Hopefully ARam will be back in time for the STL series.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 29, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem with laying on the hope here. maybe this IS the series that turns it around.
what amuses me though are the folks that say “this is the series” or “this is the year” or “I call home run” and they do this series/year/batter after series/year/batter. Then when it actually happens, they go running through the streets of BCB-land “I called it, I called it, I called it…”
crack me up…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 29, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They deserve credit
for their persistence, not for their prognostication capabilities.
by vonde6 on Jun 30, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, playing and beating the Pirates
is going to turn this team and season around. They’re the eternal NL central ragdoll everyone abuses.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, all I heard last week was how close they were to the Cubs
And if you DON’T beat the Pirates, then everybody’s bitching about that, too. “You lost to the Pirates? What the hell’s the matter with you?”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the Cubs record
There is no team that they can take for granted. Time for a little humility.
by vonde6 on Jun 30, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just 1 game vs Pitt
not a playoff clinching win. We still only had 7 hits and were 1-9 RISP. Marmol looked under control and didn’t overthrow anything. Gregg did a nice job. But Soriano is still brutal against LHP. Let’s see how we finish the games before the break to make suggestions that this game may well turn the season around.
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by tharr on Jun 29, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Talk about a wet blanket...
:)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 29, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who peed in your cheerios :)
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this probably has been said already
Why does Bradley have to yap or hand gesture everytime he gets a hit or an RBI? Just shut the **** up and go about your business like you’ve done it before. I knew this guy was a headcase, but come on already!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Amen, brother!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 30, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the not to distant future...
…standard uniform issue will include the over-sized “Number 1” hand. They will fold into their back pockets and when a player does anything of note, e.g., walks out to his position between innings, they will reach for the hand and thrust it towards the crowd. Of course, the hands will be plastered with sponsor ads, so it will cheapen the moments.
by DudeVf11 on Jun 30, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why do people make complaints like this about a player's behavior? If it's nothing
obscene, then what difference does it make to you? You sound like some stuffy old guy that wants players to act the way they did back in his day. Player today are different and they behave different. At first it was complaints that he wasn’t hitting, now the complaints are that you don’t like the way he behaves when he gets a hit hit or an RBI. If you don’t like it, don’t watch him. Problem solved.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really a big deal
other than Milton says he wants to do his job and not be noticed….which is it??
taunting back to the other teams/crowd is probably going to get you noticed.
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sound like nitpicking to me. We have bigger fish to fry here.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigger fish to fry
This team’s mental capacity is the size of a walnut. Bradley yapping everytime he gets a hit is like a salesman/woman saying “in your face” to his competitor everytime he closes a deal. Let’s all give the man an applause for his 17th freakin’ RBI of the season. He should definitely write a book or something and tell the public/fans just how he accomplished this feat.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, I don't see a lot of people complaining about this trivial crap. The Cubs have a
lot of issues to address and this is not one of them. Many players signal to other teamates in the dugout when they get a hit or an rbi and I don’t see you complaining about that. Perhaps you just have a complaint with Milton. If that is the case, don’t dress it up in a garbage post like you did. And for the record, the gesture has absolutely nothing to do with saying “in your face” to a competitor. He was asked about this weeks ago and he said he was acknowledging teamates for giving assistance from their times at bat.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't directed toward his teammates
That’s wishful thinking cause he has a history of being distracted by fans’ taunts all throughout his career. What player(s) do you know that gestures “keep on talking” to their teammates in a very hostile manner? It’s a huge issue when he’s not producing runs; if and when he turns it around I’ll be the first to ignore his antics, but until then he’s gluton for the punishment. Tell me, what’s so garbage about a post that’s critical of the Cubs’ biggest issue this year?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because of course
your opinion of gestures made in a game you see on the television is more correct then the man talking about the gestures he made himself. o.0
The Cub’s biggest issue this year is lack of offense, not the gestures a player makes when they get a good hit.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, his history tells me.
It has nothing to do with the angle or shot of the camera. He also did the same darn thing to Cub fans at his first home game. Which leads me to believe it was directed towards either Cub fans (most likely), or Pirate fans. All this guy is leading the league in is getting injured and feeling sorry for himself.
$294,117.65 for every RBI so far, that’s the Cubs problem.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your last sentence stated eloquently what the Cubs problem with Milton is. Not
guestures made towards fans, opponents or teamates.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lose
It’s a huge issue when he’s not producing runs
What don’t you understand about this statement? I could care less what Milton is doing, with the exceptions of getting injured or suspended, if he had 40-50 RBIs by now.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you just proved his point.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll spell it out for you
All I care about is his run-production. When he’s not producing he looks like a crybaby, selfish, non-professional idiot with his rediculous antics. An organization will “put up” with his kind of behavior when he’s an asset for the team; he’s currently not an asset, but a detriment. Is it possible for you to read between the lines?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except you also seem to care
about his gestures. Perhaps also his aftershave and his underwear.
If all you care about his run production, then yesterday should make you happy, because he hit the ball well three times, and got an RBI.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 30, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
=selfish player, not a team player.
When he’s gesturing towards fans, then yes I care cause it takes away from the game, his teammates, and his team. In words easier to understand, it affects his play. Please don’t tell me you can dispute his horrific numbers? A AAA minor leaguer could do better he’s doing right now….oh wait his name is Jake Fox!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer