2003 steroid list leaked (Unconfirmed)

The unconfirmed list of the 103 MLBers who tested positive for steroids in 2003. 4 current Cubs and a number of Cubs on the 2003 team on this list.

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Lee and Wood...

say it aint so…

by MDavis on Jun 30, 2009 12:05 AM CDT reply actions

Ugh

I hope this is another of those “fake lists” but I don’t think it is.

This is coming from a giant Cubs fan, I’m really happy Pujols is not on that list but I’m more sick that too many people I look up to on the Cubs past/present are.

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:15 AM CDT reply actions

I'm hoping this a fake list too!

The link was e-mailed to me from someone in my fantasy baseball league. He said he saw this today on their site and he saw a lot of Cubs on there. Thought everyone here would be interested.

by PhillyCub on Jun 30, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Definitely worth sharing

The only thing I can think of is that this list is very similar to the fake one that came out about 2 years ago. I remember Wood and Prior both being on there and being shocked.

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions

O_o I seriously hope it's not true..

too many cubs!

by Nooblet on Jun 30, 2009 12:15 AM CDT reply actions

5 current Cubs actually

Zambrano, DLee, Aram, Soriano, Bradley.

Plus Prior and Wood. Wood being on there is the one I’m most upset about if this list is true.

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:18 AM CDT reply actions

Rami's asked repeatedly for the whole list to come out

Hard to believe he’d do that and be on it, or am I still naive?

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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions

I remember that too

We can come up with 1000’s of theories if the list is true. Like perhaps when he injured his shoulder the first time he took something he didn’t know was a streroid, etc.

It seems a lot of these players on the list have gone through the Cubs or Red Sox system throughout the years. I hope its fake.

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions

I personally just hope the

true list comes out. Soon.

Just so we can get over this. The slow leak of who’s clean is starting to really drive me nuts.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions

Soto smoking pot

Doesn’t seem like that big of a deal right about now :)

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions

it never was a big deal

by Justin T on Jul 1, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions

When the true list comes out it definitely isn't going to tell us who's clean.

Remember these are just the guys who managed to test positive for a test they knew was coming.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 30, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I misspoke

I just want the names to come out fully so that we can stop the “Who used before it was against the rules” wondering.

And move on, you know? Just find a different story in this, beyond speculation.

Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas

by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Corey Patterson is also on it.

You’d think the real list would be in alphabetical order, wouldn’t you?

Also, Todd Helton? Really?

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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Todd Helton has long been rumored to have taken.

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by KaliCub on Jun 30, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Really?

Obviously, I don’t care much about steroids.

I find the “outrage” that people used things to get ahead manufactured. Of course they tried to find “easy” ways do better.

I just wish when they talked about them they were honest. Steroids are bad not b/c they’re against the law but because they can kill you.

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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions

It's spelled correctly though

From what I saw I didn’t catch typos.

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Any credible sources?

any credible sources for this list?

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by puckishcubsfan on Jun 30, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions

To be honest

I think this is the same “list” that went around 2 years ago that was deamed fake. Let’s hope it is. Too many predictable names but also too many people that enough Cubs fans look up to.

by ak123 on Jun 30, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions

It was the list from the Mitchell Report

Most of those weren’t on the actual report. These two lists do differ a bit.

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by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Funny

Funny is I emailed Al to say I was taking a sabbatical and couldn’t sleep so I visited.

This sounds like this guys list of people he thinks were on steroids and he threw in a couple of unknowns or lesser names to make it look legitimate.

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by puckishcubsfan on Jun 30, 2009 12:24 AM CDT reply actions

Are you sure you're on Twitter?

Because when I search for that user name, no results come up.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Jun 30, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions

This just smells of being false.

I believed the Sammy story but this one I hold no credence.

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by KaliCub on Jun 30, 2009 12:54 AM CDT reply actions

Ive seen this list for 2 days

but its highly rumored to be false.

I figured it would be a terrible idea to post in on BCB cause of it not being official…plz tell it to not be true.

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by Rudey on Jun 30, 2009 1:03 AM CDT reply actions

I'm skeptical

of anything from a fantasy site that comes stamped with “rumor” and “UNCONFIRMED.”

And I’m someone who does care about steroid use, and whose outrage is not manufactured. There’s a difference between trying to find ways to get ahead and altering the chemical composition of your body in an effort to attain skills or abilities you don’t have.

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by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 1:42 AM CDT reply actions

That wasn't really directed at anyone in particular

I know a few individuals who were truly disturbed by the steroid stuff…but its just never something I’ve been able to get personally amped up about, you know?

No offense intended.

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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions

No problem

I am a bit sensitive about it, mostly because I’m tired of people who seem to view those who are outraged as naive or hypocritical. I understand where you’re coming from.

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by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't really get upset by it either

Keep in mind that America’s favorite sport, the NFL, has more drug problems than MLB has. I think we’re doing pretty fine by comparison.

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by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions

I can't find anything on this anywhere else.

I don’t think, and I hope, that it’s not legit.

by MattHaggard on Jun 30, 2009 3:40 AM CDT reply actions

A tweet came in a while back from MLB Trade Rumors.

“Enough with the fake steroid list, please…”

I’m pretty sure it is indeed not the real list.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 30, 2009 3:59 AM CDT reply actions

One suspicious thing is the lack of non "small" guys on the list

Yes there are some but with a accurate list you would expect a good number of guys so obscure you don’t even remember them. This one seems a bit top heavy with major names.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep.

And why is it in team order? Looks like someone went down team rosters by division, picked out a few names from each team and made a “list”.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions

As we discussed yesterday.

This is almost like a list written by some Cub hating fan going through starting 2003 rosters and picking out the players they suspect.

Half all stars? No roster filler? No huge surprises?

I’m speculating fake lists are coming out by people trying to force out the real list.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions

it appears to me that these

are all people that had 2 0r 3 good years and then fell off the table.

by Cubbie Cale on Jun 30, 2009 7:32 AM CDT reply actions

It cant be real.

Anyone could just make up a list. I know being a Cubs fan I could just be in disbelief but I really dont believe that DLee would have been on anything. He seems like too much of a stand up guy to do anything like that, and so do others on the list.

Whatever happens, I hope more than anything that Pujols has not and is not on anything. I want there to actually be someone out there that can absolutely tear the cover off the ball with natural ability. It is possible to be big and strong without cheating.

by AndHart120 on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions

I don't wan't to believe Lee is on it, but I'm not going to base my

doubts to the veracity of the list by his appearance or any particular players muscle mass.

Anyway, any truth to the rumor El Pulpo had to stop the HGH when his sixth digit started growing a face?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions

It's not even being reported on ESPN's website

If the rumored list had any weight, we would be hearing about it right now.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

The list doesn't look legit

I call bs.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions

You've been watching....

“How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days” haven’t you.

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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Nope

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions

good... save yourself the pain.

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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 30, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

78.Antonio Alfonseca

say it isnt so.

by Ratola on Jun 30, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions

that's how he grew the extra fingers

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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 30, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions

So 4/5 of the Cubs rotation in 2003

Did someone decide not to share with Shawn Estes???

I doubt this specific list is accurate. But I’d say about 60 percent of the names didn’t surprise me in the slightest and another 20 percent were only mild surprises.

The point is, for a fake list, it sure is believable.

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by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions

You saw Shawn in 2003, what do you think?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Wasn't there some game late in the season

Where most of us were thinking, “OK, Estes is pitching… this is a loss. Wonder how we’ll make it up” and then he pitched some gem?

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by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Yup, it was one of the key victories to get into the playoffs.

However, the remainder of his season stunk.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions

Actually I think that was his last start of the season (In cincy IIRC)

by gocubsgo22 on Jun 30, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

It'll be interesting..

to compare this fake list to the real one once it comes out..

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by cubbiebear316 on Jun 30, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions

It's ordered by team?

That screams fake to me. If this list were official, it’d be alphabetical, not grouped by team.

by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions

everybody

this site rotoinfo hnas posted fake news before. It wasn’t long ago they claimed the Berkman was going to be suspended 50 games for steroids. obviously that never happened. the site is just trying to get hits

by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions

If there was a list out all the Major news outlets would be running it all day. No way this is true!!!!

by wfree0104 on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions

This is obviously a fake

Besides the fact that it’s not alphabetical (IE, somebody went through teams’ rosters and picked out names), besides the fact that it’s missing Jason Grimsley (who was confirmed to have a failed an MLB drug test in 2003), there’s one glaring omission from the list:

Marginal players.

Virtually everybody on that list is a name player. There aren’t any scrubs, any September call-ups, any quad-A players, none of that. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that some of MLB’s top players were using PEDs in 2003. It would blow my mind to find out that they were the only ones who were.

by gjdow on Jun 30, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs