Overflow Thread 2: Cubs vs. Pirates, Tuesday 6/30, 6:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jun 30, 2009 8:00 PM CDT
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This is disgusting
We should sweep this team. I spit on the Cubs. Ptooey!
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Young FO9
End 7, 3-0 Pirates
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
8-9-1 due up for the Cubs
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Ugly picture of Lou.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Why do we keep pitching the Sanchez
with a base open. Delwyn Young is not good. Hindsight I guess.
Rockies
Ok, I’m going to have to seriously consider following them this year cause the Cubs are making me dizzy and ill.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
I have been watching them a lot this year.
They are a lot of fun
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Great young pitching
finally developing.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
I agree
I moved to CO about a year ago, and, though it pains me to say this, I’m starting to look forward to their games. They actually provide some relief after this bullshit.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Where do you live?
I’m down in Littleton.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
Just moved
to Longmont. My wife and I just bought a house here. Lived in Westminster before that.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Are you going
to attend any of the Cubs games at Coors in August?
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Nice
Yep, I got club tickets to the Sunday game so far. You?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
Yeah
I was able to get something for every game. I’m starting to wonder if that was a mistake…
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
I know
that’s why I’ve held out, but I’ll most likely make it to two games at least.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
I could actually
root for the Pirates if the Cubs are out of it.
I hate the Cards and the Brewers. And, they have been the doormat for years and years…
I actually like Pittsburgh.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
okay, I've got to head to work..
stay off those ledges, people.. or at least don’t walk under them without a very sturdy umbrella..
Pumping sunshine for the Cubs since 1968 (yeah, that's right I was a Cubs fan in the womb!)
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions
There has to be a mountain for a ledge to exist!
This team is still at basecamp.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
Positive thoughts.. postitive thoughts..
This is the inning.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
postive thoughts lets see
we are not playing a double header tonight
"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"
Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001
by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Bradley is not
playing…Bradley is not playing…
days like this I miss Drew..
a real dearth of positive thoughts around here..
Pumping sunshine for the Cubs since 1968 (yeah, that's right I was a Cubs fan in the womb!)
by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
John Grabow in to pitch for the Pirates
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You guys bring it on home
My belly growls and I’m gonna go commit suicide at Wendy’s or something like that. Clutch16, zev, Craig, heinie, tony, Worf, Trey, have a good night.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Have a good one
And a Baconator
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
spicy chicken sounds good.
enjoy your night.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Theriot swinging for the fences
down by three.
Riot singles up the RF line
Lead-off hit, who knew?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Cubs aren't much better than the Pirates
Someone explain to me how that is a horribly wrong conclusion. Cubs are not a good ballclub in 2009. Simple as that. In fact, the chances are decent that Pittsburgh will finish the season ahead of the Cubs.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
This is quite accurate
if u look at the standings…
Riot singles
MB in to pinch hit. Do something, please.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions
Will the brownie leader who left her troop at Wrigley Field
please pick them up? They’re leading the Cubs 4-0.
Tonight it just doesn’t look like they can beat anyone.
Bradley pinch-hits
Into an E6. Runners at 2nd and 3rd, no outs
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
OK...that was lucky.
But I’ll take it.
2nd and 3rd no outs. No do something with it!
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions
Now would be a great time...
for Soriano to get out of this slump.
Ah, who am I kidding?
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe he can hit into a 2 base error ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else
see the Z comment that if 57% of Cubs fans want him released they should trade him to Boston?
DEJESUS!!!
It wasn't
57% of Cubs fans. I imagine a lot of White Sux fans voted in that.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Why
the fuck was that article even written. He knew it would make a big deal in Chicago, and that Z would hear about it. What a tool.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Sori Ks
2nd and 3rd, 1 out
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
$136 million spent on a bust
Worst contract in baseball.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
It's up there
but I might take him over Zito
DEJESUS!!!
What's he suppposed to do?
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
here comes another strike out
"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"
Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001
So am I
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF Kosuke?
2nd and 3rd and you’re trying to BUNT?!
And then the piece of shit watches strike three go by.
F this team.
Dome Ks looking
2nd and 3rd, 2 outs
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Might as well
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Pie has tripled and Ronny Cedeno has homered in the same night
and we have no runs because our 1-2 hitters are GARBAGE. This is on you Lou for batting DOME second. Pretty certain this is the nexus of the universe.
he doesn't hit good from anywhere once June rolls around
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Pie and Ronny are the missing pieces
Cmon
I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!
and batting
Sori 1st. If I hear one more person say he’s a leader when he insists on leading off with a .220 batting average I will scream.
DEJESUS!!!
Derek.. just a bh would be fine..
We’ve got serious issues at 1 and 2 in the batting order. That’s on Lou.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
thank god we have two of our coldest hitters batting 1st and 2nd
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
When your
team plays like it did last year, Lou can be evasive about the Soriano in the Leadoff question. But you’re right – this team blows, and it isn’t helping that our leadoff hitter has an OBP below .300. Lou should have to answer for that.
With any other manager, people would question whether he belongs in baseball at all.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Pirates Broadcast
Their advertising and auction is the most annoying thing in the world.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
No, I take that back
it’s completely believable
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
DLee 4-3
Mid 8, 3-0 Pirates
Cubs 0-3 with RISP in that inning.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That's $184 million worth of outfielder failure in two at bats
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
i agree with you BLOU
just awful financial decisions by JH when he should have passed or at very least gotten guys for far less money and years
"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"
Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001
by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
More Worf-spit
They must be drowning
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
And DFA Z
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Bed Wetting
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
can this team just fold up shop and clean house
they are wasting everyone’s time.
I mentioned this in the previous post
Everyone shot it down. Teams would want Lilly, Z, Lee, Marmol, Heilman. We could stock up on prospects and expiring contracts.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs Fans please note:
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
Who is, though?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
that inning is on Lou
he can keep batting soriano and Dome 1-2 until it costs him his job – which my guess will happen by the all star break.
No, but at some point you can sit him.
not let him talk his way into playing
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Now if only they put in Fuld to pinch hit for Soriano
At least he might have managed TO MAKE CONTACT. Ok just kidding.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Bradley stays in to play CF
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Gameday confirms
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
i think fukudomes good in center
guess thats just me
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
we can lose on bad defense
should have put MIlton in Left or right. Center is simply to easy a spot for Milton to screw up royally
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Defense, and Fukudome's horrible swing
Don’t score runs
Shark on the mound
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Yep
Spellcheck is insanely overrated.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
Baseball's most expensive and least productive outfield
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
You're going to have to change your sig soon if this keeps up!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
shark on
game officially over
"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"
Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001
Soriano and Fukudome..1,2 in the lineup..wow
I dont care how bad Soriano hits anywhere else in the lineup..he should not be hitting leadoff..put him at 6 and let him cry the rest of the season..it will do good for the team..but Lou cares nothing about that..WOW
I'm with you..
The Soriano can only hit leadoff argument was always dumb – but now it has no basis at all.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah thats the irony
before we were always worried that if we moved him out of leadoff he wouldn’t hit. But… he isn’t hitting now. How could it be worse?
Adam LaRoche FO7 H
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
If the Pirates spent more on payroll
They wouldn’t have to spend so much on this annoying advertising every 10 seconds
Go Cubs Go!!!!
Andy LaRoche 6-3
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
This is all
too predictable. Soriano begins 0-2 and K’s on outside pitch. Fukudome starts 0-2 and takes a strike. Lou can’t read the stat sheet.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
What would be the better options at this point?
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It is horrible no matter how you paint it
There are too many automatic outs on this team right now. Fonty, Freel, Sori, Fuke, Hoff (as of late), Keep going
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Lead off with Bradley?
(ducks)
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
me
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't
think Lou gives a shit about stats. He cares about the egos of his highest paid players and martinis.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
I disagree
he’s stuck in a rut with a lineup Hendry built at his demand and there is next to nothing he can do about it. They’re not going to bench Suckiano, no matter what.
Drive, Monkey Drive!
I don't
want Soriano benched. I want him and his fucking sub-.300 OBP out of the leadoff spot.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
logically, one would think any manager
would move a guy hitting that crappy down in the lineup. I think Fonzie has pix of Lou with a goat or something. It is the only reason I can think of for his continued leading off.
Drive, Monkey Drive!
Moss singles to LF
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That's not fair
They’re really more of a AAAA team
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I saw the Indy Indians on Sat.
They might be better than the ML team on the whole…
I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!
not now.
nearly 50 percent of their offense is in Pittsburgh now.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
you should check out our team
we have quite a few AAA quality players ourselves
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Enough of that crap. Do we expect them to lose every game?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I am tired of waiting for other teams to lose so that I can at least enjoy the rest of my evening. If all of you hated 4th place, 5th is knocking on the door. If this score holds up and Houston wins, we become the next to last team in this division.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Do u think that's going to matter anyways?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer
I am going on a vacation for 5 days tomorrow
and I am really glad that I am not going to watch Cubs baseball (Is that what they are playing?) during this time. I am just happy that I am getting away from this stink. This is beyond ridiculous and someone has to be held accountable.
get in line rookie
"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"
Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001
by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
LOLZ re lou pic above
“stands in the dugout during a baseball game”
!!!!
great description of his managerial style
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
At least he looks awake
Sorta
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
With that fuzz on his face he looks like an ostrich.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
i think Fuld woulda gotten at least a run in
kosuke is just a major bust in the states. time to give up on this experiment
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
based on what?
Fuld is not a major league hitter. Just because he’s new doesn’t mean he’s good
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he would have at least made contact with the ball to score a run.
Otherwise, I agree with you.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Fuld has stuck out 3 times in 6 at-bats in his major league career
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
the point being
he has struck out plenty, in a short period of time, so there’s very little proof Fuld would have made any contact at all
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm basing that on the fact that
Fuld makes more contact than fukudome.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yes.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
he's struck out in 50% of his Major League at-bats
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
that was 3 years ago....
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
it was two, and you really think he'll be better at making contact
after not having seen major league pitching for a few years?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
unless you're going to claim he's a better bet to make contact
based on absolutely nothing.
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Try the Cubs-induced coma
Take 3-4 games off…look at the box in the morning if you must…but don’t watch the games. Then you come back refreshed and normally the win more than lose when you don’t watch.
I’ve tried it many times over the last two seasons.
WARNING: This doesn’t work for the last 3-4 games of the season. Cubs are 0-6 after this.
I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!
That's a really good suggestion, actually
I’m off on vacation next week and plan to stay far away from TV, radio, etc.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Diaz 5-4
End 8, 3-0 Pirates
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Well at least
Fox is doing a hell of a job at third.
Nice play by Fox at 3rd. 3 outs. Going into the 9th....
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
now if he could just get on base to start the 9th...
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
This team is just boring.
There is nothing interesting about them. If they can’t score by getting hits, they don’t score. They don’t try anything else. This is just dull.
"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse
Good defense leading to good offense?
Fox, Hoff, Geo up to bat next
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Geo is doing good tonight
Base running aside… just get the first two on.
Matt Capps in to finish it off
17/19 in Save Opportunities this year
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
i had a gut feeling
samardzija was going to be called up. his stats at iowa were pretty darn good. iam excited, but does this change heilman’s staus at all? send heilman down to iowa and let him start. that is my opinion, fwiiw…
all due respect
but it doesn’t take nostradamus to predict that a prospect Hendry has a hardon for will be called up at some point
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Giants have 9 hits on Carpenter in 5 innings.
Wonder if he’s hurt. he usually is pretty unhittable.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
Out of the 90 players
taken in rounds 3-5 of the 2006 draft. Only 3 have reached the majors, Chris Davis, Joe Smith and Jeff Samardzija
Fox 6-3
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
We can try this
Hoff Power:
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
Damnit!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I like that sooooo much.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Romo is dating...
a fat chick! Tony Homo!!
I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!
Wow, I'm clearly behind the times.
When was the Shark called up?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
No wonder.
I hadn’t heard of this move.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
the shark is pitching now
i am on game tracker and light years behind. where is heilman?
by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoff FO6
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Battling with Pittsburgh and Houston for the cellar of the NL Central in 2009
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
With a $136M payroll. Amazing it is.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Heads will roll
Hendry’s gone if things don’t get turned around. There’s no excuse for a team with that large of a payroll to play this poorly.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
just read this in the cbssports glog
’The CUBS should bat their Pitcher Leadoff- That would really piss Soriano off. Maybe he would just QUIT"
what do you guys think
Everyone who wants Lou fired
Would have their wish granted
Geo BB
Bloop and a blast, anyone?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
oh yeah. theriot would be that man.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Two runs or more, in any way, is fine with me.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The question is,
how long will we play like this before management makes some changes? Aren’t there players we can trade for to end our lackluster effort?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
we have lots of exciting things
happening on the farm. we are going to be a-ok. it won’t take much to get a wild-card
by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs Lose Cubs Lose Cubs Lose
I breathe in, I breathe out, I breathe in, I breathe out …..1234……123456…..123456789….10!
Go Cubs Go!!!!
At least
JDRF got some cash by that walk – cause it ain’t going to do much else.
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Beethoven FO7
Game over.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Let's
Go Rockies!!!
"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore
Hello, All
Just wanted to remind you that it is nice to have a roof over my head, and full stomach, and that life doesn’t suck as much as the Cubs lead to believe it does.
Get ’em tomorrow, boys!
#GagMeWithGDbbqTongs
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
AAUGH!!!!
But if we win tomorrow, we win the series.
We’ll get ’em tomorrow.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
Unfortunately, yes.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
that
sucks. don’t blame our pitchers. they are the best in mlb
by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You'll get no argument from me about that.
I just wish we could find some bats to get them more run support.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
imagine where the cubs would be without our SP
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Us or the team
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, per probable pitchers on the Cubs' website.
Randy Wells against Virgil Vasquez.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
a pitcher we haven't seen?
back to back shutouts on the horizon?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
This team
May force Lou to retire a year early.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I don't like Lou, but...
…there’s only so much you can blame the manager for. If you want to blame him for not forcing Soriano out of the leadoff spot, that’s fair game. The problem is not Soriano alone. What can he possibly do? Hendry brought in a new hitting coach and that hasn’t solved the problems either. The problem isn’t the management. It’s a problem with the players themselves. They have no one but themselves to blame for being a team that can’t play above .500 consistently. I honestly think the Cubs would be doing even worse if not for Lou Piniella and it takes a lot for me to admit that.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Lou is a below average in game manager
and his decisions this year have been beyond bad an awful lot.
Who the hell bats a guy who’s been hitting .170 this month at #2?
Why is Mike Fontenot still a starting player?
Why announce that Milton is going to get a few days off, then use him as a pinch hitter?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Short bench
People loved him when the team won back to back division titles.
Here goes:
1) Who do you put at #2? Honestly answer that question for me.
2) Aramis Ramirez is on the DL, so the infield has been in shambles. Is it Mike Fontenot’s fault that in his first season as a starter that he has to learn a new position? Granted, he could have done better, but the organization made a judgment call on starting Mike Fontenot.
3) I’d rather not play Milton at all, but they’re paying him too much money to sit.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I never "loved" Lou
once I actually saw him manage. I liked that for a couple of years his players seemed to play for him (until the playoffs) but I’ve never been impressed with his in game managing.
1) Theriot
2) No, it’s not Fontenot’s fault that he isn’t very good, and Lou and Jim decided to hand him a job he didn’t earn, it was Jim and LOU’S which is the point of this discussion. Lou’s bad decision to keep him in the starting lineup.
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a statement game if I have ever seen one.
Oh, and for those of you that were waiting for everyone else to lose. The Brewers are rocking the crap out of Johan. The end of this season could be the 4th of July.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
Waiting for everyone to lose is not a winning strategy
You have to win your games and take care of your own house. If you can’t win your own games, you’re in trouble.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I hope so
if only to get the whack jobs off this board.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Whack or wack?
Anyhow, this team is not good man. The slump is over, the talent is just not there. Honestly, since you seem to be one of few level headed people on here, when do the Cubs try and unload whatever they can? Seriously. 5 games out, 7 games out? We will most likely be 4.5 out after tonight, so when?
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
We will play the Brewers and Cardinals first before we even begin selling
I still say we won’t
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I think if they're within 4-5 games
they won’t sell. Seven or eight games, probably. I don’t see it getting that bad, though.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Against the Brewers for 4 this weekend?
We are not in a good place right now.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
But those games are at home
and the Cubs have been pretty good at home, hard as it is to believe.
I’m not going to flush this season down the toilet without a fight.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
trying to talk sense to NBF
is a wasted effort
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah
Most of the time what NBF says is true, it is just the same shit we all say minus the need to be overly passionate.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
most of the time what NBF says are personal attacks
and nothing more
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
he launches personal attacks at the players themselves?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Good lord
We all do. Without a doubt.
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Webster's
lists either spelling as accurate, BTW. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That was one amazing display. I don't even know what to call it. It certainly
wasn’t anything resembling baseball.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions
this whole season
has resembled the last two weeks of September 2008, when the team didn’t give a crap.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Gotta get tomorrow's game
and 3 of 4 from Milwaukee. 5-2 over this week won’t be bad.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
5-2 over this week
is sadly unrealistic
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say it'll happen
but if the pitching holds up, they’ll have a chance
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I'll be happy..
…if we score five runs in the series and avoid being swept.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
soriano should of sat today's game
he really sucks right now
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
Sitting Soriano...
…won’t make everyone else better.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
it wouldn't but
you would at least have a better chance of scoring runs.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
So what's your idea?
Who in this lineup bats leadoff? Who bats third now? Give me a lineup that can hit with runners in scoring position and I’ll tell you that no one on this team can do it no matter what lineup card you turn in.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
If all we did was stick to the same lineup
Nobody would ever have a chance to break out
who says they don't give u a better chance of winning
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
So you'd rather watch them get shut out by the Pirates?
Or would it be more embarrassing to see a AAA team score 1 run against the pirates and a $136 throwing up a goose egg?
Again. Give me a lineup with some logic behind it.
You can say someone needs to move in the lineup, but you need to think this out. Here’s a blank lineup card (except for pitcher). Fill it in and do it without knee jerk reactions.
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9) Pitcher
Have at it.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
1. Fuld LF
2. Theriot SS
3. Lee 1B
4. Fox 3B
5. Bradley RF
6. Soto C
7. Fukdome CF
8. Blanco 2B
9. Pitcher
This isn’t everyday lineup but lou should change it up for a day or two
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Any reason why Soriano is not in the lineup?
And why not bat Theriot leadoff? He’s one of the better hitters on the team and he’s not necessarily an RBI guy. I would not bat Bradley in the heart of the order either. If anything, I’d move Soto down to where you have Bradley.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Why not Fuld?
Triple A is triple A but look at his BB/K ratio. Bradley and Soto can interchange, it doesn’t really matter.
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Fuld didn't strike out 124 times in AAA
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
no he sported a career .260 average in the MINORS
you’re going to have to excuse me if that doesn’t instill any confidence that he will contribute in any way to sparking our offense
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah too bad he had a career average of .287
but yeah
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
If I'm going leadoff
I’m going to go with a guy who has proved he can hit major league pitching over a long period. I want a little more experience in the leadoff spot. You can put Fuld second or even Bradley, which is not as odd as it sounds when you consider he seems to prefer taking walks. Fuld isn’t a bad choice, but if you want to move Bradley up, that’s the way to do it.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
What evidence do you have that Fuld is actually better
This isn’t about getting rid of a guy you don’t like and just replacing him with someone else. You have to have some indication that he’d actually do a better job. He was .000/.333/.000 in his 14 MLB at-bats.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
not that he's new
Alan Trammell can play better than Soriano. look below, Soriano has really proven himself right. He’s had a really great stretch since Ram got injured. Yeah, let’s stick with mediocre players that can’t field for shit. Let’s stick with players that strike out when you need a big hit from them. Yeah, I can’t wait until he strikes out with a runner on third and less than 2 outs. YEAH!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he's gonna hit better than Soriano
considering Soriano is hitting a robust .204 since Ram’s injury. Makes you optimistic, right. Along with that average, he has 15 rbis and 5 hrs. IN 43 Games, that makes me really excited !!!!!!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/F/Sam-Fuld.shtml
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by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
1) Gerald Perry
2) Lou Pinella
3) Paul Sullivan
4) Jim Hendry
5) Gordon Twittermeyer
6) Bob Brenly
7) Tom Ricketts
8) Alan Trammell
9) Pitcher
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
Hendry ..... cleaning up!!!!!!!
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
My mistake
I’ll trade away the character guys on there to clear up the error
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
It doesn't matter
Soriano: 0-3
Fukudome: 0-4
There are two guys consistently playing subpar. It doesn’t matter who takes their place; if the replacement goes 0 fer what have you lost? And if Soriano is “hurt” you give him a few games to heal.
better defense & better at bats ...... i guess it doesn't really matter
Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball
by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Jim Hendry
should take Sullivan’s logic one step further and put Bradley, Soriano, Fukudome, Zambrano, Fontenot, Miles, and Soto on waivers. See if anyone bites. Itmight be a kick in the ass to see that no one wants them.
OMZZ!!! lets drop our players that are currently producing the least!!!
FANTASY BASEBAAAAALLLLLL!
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yeah then the cubs should pick up pujols sabathia peavy beckett and tex
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Putting a guy on Waivers
does not mean you drop them. It means if someone bites on them, you can trade them to that team. At least that is my understanding. If Im wrong, I apologize, but it is not cutting them.
yeah, and when noone picks them up, then you have even more clubhouse turmoil
thats the last thing we need
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It is?
I think the last thing we need is to let these guys continue to suck without consequence. I could give a rats ass about the clubhouse.
Thank god you are not in no way making decisions for the the direction of this team
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If we keep the status quo
this season is lost. A shakeup is needed. Putting guys on waivers would send a message. If guys dont like it, im not really that concerned.
You can't just start putting your star players on waivers
Let’s wait for Aramis Ramirez to come back and see if we need to make a trade after that. If we can’t make it, we’ll sell. If we’ve got a shot, we’ve got to be buyers.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Star players?
Our stars are Lilly, Lee and Theriot and thats about it. And Ramirez. Those guys I listed are not stars.
Theriot is not a star player
he’s decent, but he’s no where near a STAR
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
on a real team no
on this team whos better?
You want to put one of our better hitters on waivers?
What are we? The Pirates.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
No we are worse
unfortunately, with about four times the payroll.
Which of our better players did I want on waivers.
we have no money to be buyers
because our stars are bein paid an absolute fortune.
honest question
where are you getting that figure
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I've read on here that Hendry has $8-10 million in his back pocket
I could be mistaken
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you read on here as in someone randomly said it once
or it was in a post with something to back it up?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
no dude
hendry just walks around with 10 mil in cash in his back pocket. everyoneeeeeee knows that. duh.
And he'll give you a dollar now, two dollars next year
and the other $9,999,997 when you’re 42
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
thought I read it a couple of times from several different posters
Maybe even Al, but AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG
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heine41
i appreciate your optimism but I know you are dying to join the dark side and call a spade a spade. Not every season is going to end up with a division winner. This one is headed South fast. Regroup and hopefully by next year we will have a functional team.
by BeltwayCubsFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I am an optimist
But I am also a level headed person. I can understand everyone’s frustration who is on said “dark side”. I feel it too. If anyone doubts that I ache and hurt and get pissed off when this team does poorly, then they are sorely mistaken.
I was never as high like most around here last year, and I won’t get low and make unrealistic claims or proclaim the season over when we are not even close to being mathematically eliminated nor are we even 6 games back. Not too mention we have an EASIER schedule the second half of the season.
I agree our team is a mess. I agree we blow hardcore right now. I agree its embarrassing that our $150 million+ payroll ballclub plays like a bunch of unmotivated, lazy superstars.
But the sky isn’t falling yet, Chicken Little
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I'm no optimist
However, I am a realist. You’ve got to make smart moves and not moves out of desperation.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Those are two levelheaded posts
Ill agree to disagree with you. I think this season is very close to being lost. I also feel the next couple of years could be really ugly. But only time will tell.
I hope you both are right.
the cubs are only 4 games behind the brewers
IIRC the 2003 cubs were a lot farther behind before the ASB and the 2006 cardinals werent that good having 2 8 game losing streaks and a 7 game losing streak either but still managed to win the world series
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Close doesn't mean for sure
If you don’t make it, you can shake things up in the offseason. You’re losing Rich Harden to free agency. The sale should be done by then. You’ll have an easier time making what I’d say would be the great changes. I don’t think a lot of what’s wrong with this team can be fixed by July 31. There’s no reason to go on full fire sale mode because this season is not done yet.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
My point is not to start a fire sale
I dont believe we could trade most of these guys. The point would be to send a message. This performance is unacceptable. Would it work. Maybe not, but it would not necessarily mean a fire sale.
Further, if you coud get out from under some of those contracts, that would be well worth suffering a rough fate this season. Imagine what a new GM could do without Fuku’s 12 million annual or Soriano’s 20 million, or Zambrano’s 15 or Bradleys 10
What could he do?
Zambrano looks to be having more of an off year to me than anything else. I’d say the same with Soriano even though I’m a bit suspicious about decline. I’m sold on Fukudome not being worth his salary, but that contract is too large to deal right now.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Let me be clear
I dont think anyone wants these guys, thats why Im willing to throw them on waivers. If someone does want them, however, then trading them would be the right thing to do.
My point of using waivers, which is the same as Sullivan;s, is that there is a message there. If someone is so supid as to bite on the deal, then even better.
Imagine what a new GM could do without Fuku’s 12 million annual or Soriano’s 20 million, or Zambrano’s 15 or Bradleys 10.
Well, there would be plenty of GMs available at that point, because any GM that took any of those contracts except Z would quickly be fired.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
The point of having a job...
…is to try to keep that job. Doing something that you know can get you fired isn’t exactly good for your job security.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
My point was
That no one is going to take those contracts, again with the exception of Z, for good reason
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
believe me, I hope I'm right too
Worst case scenario though, this season, the last as The Trib’s team, will just epitomize what’s is wrong with this organization, and radical changes will be made once the new ownership gets in with a winning attitude.
Hendry has made some great deals in the past, but this year, this team, unless things turn around, is a fireable offense
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Heine, you said it better
than I ever could.
Gotta hand it to a level-headed Peoria person.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Pekin?
Well, I just might have to reconsider that. :) Make it “Peoria-area person.”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
hey I'm of a different generation
I’m bringing the reputation back :)
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It almost makes me wish the season
was over so I could hear Garry Meier everyday.
"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse
We now have a new motto for this team - An Embarassment of Riches.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
Optimist - or Pessimist
or “Realist”
We can all agree on one thing:
This team right now is really bad.
I was not expecting to sweep the Pirates. But a shutout??? $140MM payroll vs. $15MM?
It's baseball man
This is not the NFL, things like this happen over the course of a 162 season.
Just sucks that its been happening a bit too often
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Agreed,
Heine. It is not the NFL. Note the words, “…team RIGHT NOW is really bad…”
The worst in baseball with RISP.
Yes we are horrible right now
But injuries and team-wide slumps know no payroll
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Pujols hits 29 and 30
unbelievable ball player.
How you gonna pull that off?
Ricketts going to buy the Cards and then nontender him?
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
I've seen how poorly $150 million can be spent
And how teams like the Marlins, Rays, etc. can compete with limited payrolls.
Cubs figure out how to fix one thing and implement the other, getting Pujols is NOT out of the question
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The Cardinals would have to be insane to give him up
And I mean, literally insane. As in, Tony LaRussa banging his head against the wall, screaming, “ROSEBUD! ROSEBUD!” insane. Ain’t going to happen.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
I'm glad I set my beer down
That post really made me laugh.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Never say never
but your’re probably right.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
knowing the history of the Cubs
we would finally get Pujols when he’s 45 and cannot hit anymore.
Drive, Monkey Drive!
lol or we do get him and he turns into some .280 15 hr's 75 rbi guy
WTF!
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
We got Hornsby in 1929, who won the MVP that year
Problem is that Hack Wilson couldn’t catch a fly ball in the 1929 World Series.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
You don't know this
LaRussa leaving the Cardinals, and the Cardinals inability to field a competitive team, coupled with poor attendance figures for the next two year because of said poor play, it is definitely a possibility
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
you are right
and I cannot say the man is loyal to the Cardinals. He appears to be. But would want to be the STL GM who lets Pujols go to the Cubs?
Drive, Monkey Drive!
I just don't think the Cardinals will be able to pay him what he deserves even AFTER a hometown discount
and still be able to put the kind of players around him he feels he deserves.
Its like they A. Resign Pujols to his mega-contract and then be the STL Pujols for the next 10 years, or move one and field a competitive team
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
True enough
I still don’t think he’s leaving St. Louis, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he did.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and if he does
it won’t be for the Cubs
by ElHijoDelRonSanto on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, he could probably get $10 million a year
From ESPN, just for the honor of having him in their presence.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
hes going to go where
A. He can be competitve and B. Get Paid.
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
The bottom line is
there aren’t going to be any changes to the roster until Ramirez has been back a few weeks. Coincidentally, that’s right about at the trading deadline. Once this team’s had ARam in the lineup again for a while — even if he doesn’t hit .350 — Lou and Hendry can make a call.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
Bingo
We’ve essentially been playing without our RBI guy for about two months now. It’s actually amazing that this team hasn’t gone completely in the cellar without him.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
and I well stand by it. You add an RBI guy
Other RBI guys will come out of the woodwork
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
except that no one knows how much of ARAM will come back
dislocated shoulder is something that can linger a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. Take it from someone who’s athletic career was ended by them.
I was no all -star, but was a college athlete, and had to give it up because my shoulder constantly popped out, after the first time.
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It will be his presence more than his production that will help this team
he could hit .270 and i still think things will come around. We don’t need bombs and power numbers, we need timely hitting.
We need a reminder that when you have runners on 3rd and 2nd with noone out, the pitcher is the one in trouble, not out offense
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
that makes no sense
if he hits .270 I’ll be relatively happy. But you’re saying his production won’t matter, then saying that the team needs to see that a pitcher is in trouble with him at the plate.
The only way the pitcher is in trouble is if he’s hitting, and hitting well
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Aramis would have delivered in the 8th inning tonight
regardless of his average when he comes back
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
At this point, he could hit .170 and still be one of the team's best hitters
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
Not there yet.
Being in near the cellar in June isn’t exactly the same as being in the cellar in July or August.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Remember this
Just having ARam in the lineup will settle down the order. He doesn’t have to hit a ton.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
this coming from the guy who believed that having Dero in the lineup wouldn't have helped at all
your lack of logic knows no bounds
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
If you don't know the difference between ARam and DeRo
Then I can’t help you. Then again, I don’t think anybody can.
But I forgot, DeRo is the reincarnation of Lou Gehrig.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
he was actually someone who was driving in runs
which is presumably what ARAM will do. You just didn’t want him here out of some sort of weird spite towards those who did.
You NEVER from what I saw, gave a reason why Dero wouldn’t have upgraded the offense. It’s simple statistics.
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
and there's that winning strawman/hyperbole argument you love so much
You seriously crack me up. Getting ARAM back will magically make everyone else better. But when someone says getting Derosa might have made the offense better, it’s so ridiculous, that it’s like calling him Lou Gehrig.
Like I said, your lack of logic knows no bounds
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the right comparison
DeRosa: .263/.336/.446
Fontenot: .219/.304/.357
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
it's a fine comparison when the original argument was
that having a competent hitter makes the rest of the offense better
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a difference
between a “competent hitter” and a perennial all-star who is/has been the best hitter on your club, you moron.
The Cubs roster is filled with competent hitters, more competent than your hero, even.
It’s like talking to a brick wall.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
DeRosa
I was skeptical of the trade to the Indians when it happened, it definitely damaged our fielding depth. But unil last year DeRo was a pretty average hitter. And last year was a career year. I feel Hendry rolled the dice, gambing that he would not get comparable numbers this year out of DeRo.
Drive, Monkey Drive!
My hero? speaking of a brick wall.....
“The Cubs roster is filled with competent hitters” is it? Odd, I could have sworn we have one of the worst offenses in the NL, and THE worst with RISP. That doesn’t scream competence to me.
Neither do any of your posts for that matter
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at their track record
Yes, the roster is filled with competent hitters.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
they aren't competent this year, and Derosa has been
which is the point that keeps flying over your head like an airplane circling a crowded runway
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Not me
I’d just be the eccentric drunk. Think Kramer with too much to drink.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Take Pujols off the Cardinals
and St. Louis goes in the tank. Does DeRosa help them then? Heck, they’re on their way to going 0-3 with him AND Pujols.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't remember thinking we'd go undefeated with Derosa
but I understand things like nuance are hard for you to understand
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Will he hit leadoff too?
If so, we’ve solved all of our problems ;)
I guess I wouldn't hate that
but it would make me wonder what we’re giving up to get him, and whether those prospects would be better spent on upgrading our offense
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
At this point, having Healh Bell PH might upgrade our offense
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
Why so serious?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
You can stand on your
head with suppositions, but I can just see what is happening currently.
When (if) the time comes that they can play at a .600 clip for the rest of the season, then I’ll give them credit where it is due.
I feel your pain, E
Say the Serenity Prayer a few times if you have to. Don’t jump ship.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh - I'll be okay
Bruce until we get about 10 games out…
I am gonna write Jim Hendry, anyway!
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