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Chicago Cubs manager Lou Piniella stands in the dugout during a baseball game against the Pittsburgh Pirates in Pittsburgh Monday, June 29, 2009. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)

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4 months ago: Chicago Cubs manager Lou Piniella stands in the dugout during a baseball game against the Pittsburgh Pirates in Pittsburgh Monday, June 29, 2009. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)

From Monday's game.

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This is disgusting

We should sweep this team. I spit on the Cubs. Ptooey!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ew.

Worf-spit.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young FO9

End 7, 3-0 Pirates

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

8-9-1 due up for the Cubs

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugly picture of Lou.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do we keep pitching the Sanchez

with a base open. Delwyn Young is not good. Hindsight I guess.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rockies

Ok, I’m going to have to seriously consider following them this year cause the Cubs are making me dizzy and ill.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have been watching them a lot this year.

They are a lot of fun

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great young pitching

finally developing.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I moved to CO about a year ago, and, though it pains me to say this, I’m starting to look forward to their games. They actually provide some relief after this bullshit.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where do you live?

I’m down in Littleton.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just moved

to Longmont. My wife and I just bought a house here. Lived in Westminster before that.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you going

to attend any of the Cubs games at Coors in August?

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Yep, I got club tickets to the Sunday game so far. You?

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was able to get something for every game. I’m starting to wonder if that was a mistake…

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

that’s why I’ve held out, but I’ll most likely make it to two games at least.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could actually

root for the Pirates if the Cubs are out of it.

I hate the Cards and the Brewers. And, they have been the doormat for years and years…

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually like Pittsburgh.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay, I've got to head to work..

stay off those ledges, people.. or at least don’t walk under them without a very sturdy umbrella..

Pumping sunshine for the Cubs since 1968 (yeah, that's right I was a Cubs fan in the womb!)

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There has to be a mountain for a ledge to exist!

This team is still at basecamp.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

postive thoughts lets see

we are not playing a double header tonight

"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"

Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001

by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

days like this I miss Drew..

a real dearth of positive thoughts around here..

Pumping sunshine for the Cubs since 1968 (yeah, that's right I was a Cubs fan in the womb!)

by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Grabow in to pitch for the Pirates

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys bring it on home

My belly growls and I’m gonna go commit suicide at Wendy’s or something like that. Clutch16, zev, Craig, heinie, tony, Worf, Trey, have a good night.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Have a good one

And a Baconator

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kapla!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

spicy chicken sounds good.

enjoy your night.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riot singles up the RF line

Lead-off hit, who knew?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs aren't much better than the Pirates

Someone explain to me how that is a horribly wrong conclusion. Cubs are not a good ballclub in 2009. Simple as that. In fact, the chances are decent that Pittsburgh will finish the season ahead of the Cubs.

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is quite accurate

if u look at the standings…

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riot singles

MB in to pinch hit. Do something, please.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Will the brownie leader who left her troop at Wrigley Field

please pick them up? They’re leading the Cubs 4-0.

Tonight it just doesn’t look like they can beat anyone.

by ChipSet on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could Riot

have scored on that?

by hmlee on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soto could of

That dude has wheels

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley pinch-hits

Into an E6. Runners at 2nd and 3rd, no outs

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK...that was lucky.

But I’ll take it.

2nd and 3rd no outs. No do something with it!

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing

our best player is up,…

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now would be a great time...

for Soriano to get out of this slump.

Ah, who am I kidding?

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he can hit into a 2 base error ?

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else

see the Z comment that if 57% of Cubs fans want him released they should trade him to Boston?

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z

Boston doesnt want you.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't

57% of Cubs fans. I imagine a lot of White Sux fans voted in that.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

the fuck was that article even written. He knew it would make a big deal in Chicago, and that Z would hear about it. What a tool.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sori Ks

2nd and 3rd, 1 out

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

$136 million spent on a bust

Worst contract in baseball.

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's up there

but I might take him over Zito

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here comes another strike out

"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"

Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001

by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So am I

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Ronnie

still conscious?

by hmlee on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF Kosuke?

2nd and 3rd and you’re trying to BUNT?!

And then the piece of shit watches strike three go by.

F this team.

by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dome Ks looking

2nd and 3rd, 2 outs

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Might as well

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pie has tripled and Ronny Cedeno has homered in the same night

and we have no runs because our 1-2 hitters are GARBAGE. This is on you Lou for batting DOME second. Pretty certain this is the nexus of the universe.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and batting

Sori 1st. If I hear one more person say he’s a leader when he insists on leading off with a .220 batting average I will scream.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derek.. just a bh would be fine..

We’ve got serious issues at 1 and 2 in the batting order. That’s on Lou.

by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good night.

Fuck this team.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When your

team plays like it did last year, Lou can be evasive about the Soriano in the Leadoff question. But you’re right – this team blows, and it isn’t helping that our leadoff hitter has an OBP below .300. Lou should have to answer for that.

With any other manager, people would question whether he belongs in baseball at all.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nd and 3rd, no one out...

top of the order up and not a single god damn run gets in. Unreal.

by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pirates Broadcast

Their advertising and auction is the most annoying thing in the world.

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

That was just brutal.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unreal

horrible, horrible at bats

by chitownhawkeye on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, I take that back

it’s completely believable

by chitownhawkeye on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DLee 4-3

Mid 8, 3-0 Pirates

Cubs 0-3 with RISP in that inning.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's $184 million worth of outfielder failure in two at bats

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jun 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree with you BLOU

just awful financial decisions by JH when he should have passed or at very least gotten guys for far less money and years

"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"

Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001

by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

UGH

2nd & 3rd, no outs, top of the order. This team is impossible to watch tonight.

by ChipSet on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I SPIT ON THE CUBS!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More Worf-spit

They must be drowning

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And DFA Z

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bed Wetting

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned this in the previous post

Everyone shot it down. Teams would want Lilly, Z, Lee, Marmol, Heilman. We could stock up on prospects and expiring contracts.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

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Cubs Fans please note:

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is, though?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that inning is on Lou

he can keep batting soriano and Dome 1-2 until it costs him his job – which my guess will happen by the all star break.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm usually optimistic...

But c’mon, they were GIVING us a run.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've never done this before

but I’m about to jump off the nearest ledge soon!!!

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now if only they put in Fuld to pinch hit for Soriano

At least he might have managed TO MAKE CONTACT. Ok just kidding.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bradley stays in to play CF

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gameday confirms

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think fukudomes good in center

guess thats just me

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we can lose on bad defense

should have put MIlton in Left or right. Center is simply to easy a spot for Milton to screw up royally

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's

a fine defensive centerfielder. Maybe above average.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shark on the mound

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Baseball's most expensive and least productive outfield

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jun 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're going to have to change your sig soon if this keeps up!

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shark on

game officially over

"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"

Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001

by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bleep this bleeping team

Good night.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano and Fukudome..1,2 in the lineup..wow

I dont care how bad Soriano hits anywhere else in the lineup..he should not be hitting leadoff..put him at 6 and let him cry the rest of the season..it will do good for the team..but Lou cares nothing about that..WOW

by cubbiepride on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you..

The Soriano can only hit leadoff argument was always dumb – but now it has no basis at all.

by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah thats the irony

before we were always worried that if we moved him out of leadoff he wouldn’t hit. But… he isn’t hitting now. How could it be worse?

by hmlee on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adam LaRoche FO7 H

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Pirates spent more on payroll

They wouldn’t have to spend so much on this annoying advertising every 10 seconds

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Andy LaRoche 6-3

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is all

too predictable. Soriano begins 0-2 and K’s on outside pitch. Fukudome starts 0-2 and takes a strike. Lou can’t read the stat sheet.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 30, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What would be the better options at this point?

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is horrible no matter how you paint it

There are too many automatic outs on this team right now. Fonty, Freel, Sori, Fuke, Hoff (as of late), Keep going

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lead off with Bradley?

(ducks)

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lead off

with Theriot, to start.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both

Sori and Fuku are below .200 vs LHP. If we don’t have someone better than that for late innings, we’re doomed to failure.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

think Lou gives a shit about stats. He cares about the egos of his highest paid players and martinis.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

he’s stuck in a rut with a lineup Hendry built at his demand and there is next to nothing he can do about it. They’re not going to bench Suckiano, no matter what.

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

want Soriano benched. I want him and his fucking sub-.300 OBP out of the leadoff spot.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

logically, one would think any manager

would move a guy hitting that crappy down in the lineup. I think Fonzie has pix of Lou with a goat or something. It is the only reason I can think of for his continued leading off.

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that or

he can make a hell of a martini.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moss singles to LF

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

triple a

team beating our brains out

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not fair

They’re really more of a AAAA team

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw the Indy Indians on Sat.

They might be better than the ML team on the whole…

I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!

by EamuCanoli on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oklahoma Redhawks

certainly are

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not now.

nearly 50 percent of their offense is in Pittsburgh now.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We really need the Giants and the Mets to win.

The Cubs can’t afford to get anymore games back.

by Cubbiegoon on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Enough of that crap. Do we expect them to lose every game?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no we just expect

to win a few every now in again

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I am tired of waiting for other teams to lose so that I can at least enjoy the rest of my evening. If all of you hated 4th place, 5th is knocking on the door. If this score holds up and Houston wins, we become the next to last team in this division.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do u think that's going to matter anyways?

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

"Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!" - Homer

by propheteer on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going on a vacation for 5 days tomorrow

and I am really glad that I am not going to watch Cubs baseball (Is that what they are playing?) during this time. I am just happy that I am getting away from this stink. This is beyond ridiculous and someone has to be held accountable.

by cubsnlinux on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As my first ever post...

… I would really appreciate a rally in the 9th.

Hello Quad Cities!

by Weerez on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

can you feel it??

Hello Quad Cities!

by Weerez on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

get in line rookie

"Cubs Win, Cubs Win, CUBS WIN!"

Steve McMichael: "I'm going to have to have a talk with that umpire down there." Angel Hernadez then ejected McMichael. 08/07/2001

by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOLZ re lou pic above

“stands in the dugout during a baseball game”

!!!!

great description of his managerial style

I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.

by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT

by joeschmitt on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least he looks awake

Sorta

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With that fuzz on his face he looks like an ostrich.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think Fuld woulda gotten at least a run in

kosuke is just a major bust in the states. time to give up on this experiment

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

based on what?

Fuld is not a major league hitter. Just because he’s new doesn’t mean he’s good

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he would have at least made contact with the ball to score a run.

Otherwise, I agree with you.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the point being

he has struck out plenty, in a short period of time, so there’s very little proof Fuld would have made any contact at all

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try the Cubs-induced coma

Take 3-4 games off…look at the box in the morning if you must…but don’t watch the games. Then you come back refreshed and normally the win more than lose when you don’t watch.

I’ve tried it many times over the last two seasons.

WARNING: This doesn’t work for the last 3-4 games of the season. Cubs are 0-6 after this.

I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!

by EamuCanoli on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a really good suggestion, actually

I’m off on vacation next week and plan to stay far away from TV, radio, etc.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Diaz 5-4

End 8, 3-0 Pirates

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well at least

Fox is doing a hell of a job at third.

by jajonez77 on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+5

Hello Quad Cities!

by Weerez on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice play by Fox at 3rd. 3 outs. Going into the 9th....

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

now if he could just get on base to start the 9th...

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team is just boring.

There is nothing interesting about them. If they can’t score by getting hits, they don’t score. They don’t try anything else. This is just dull.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good defense leading to good offense?

Fox, Hoff, Geo up to bat next

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Geo is doing good tonight

Base running aside… just get the first two on.

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Capps in to finish it off

17/19 in Save Opportunities this year

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i had a gut feeling

samardzija was going to be called up. his stats at iowa were pretty darn good. iam excited, but does this change heilman’s staus at all? send heilman down to iowa and let him start. that is my opinion, fwiiw…

by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

all due respect

but it doesn’t take nostradamus to predict that a prospect Hendry has a hardon for will be called up at some point

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants have 9 hits on Carpenter in 5 innings.

Wonder if he’s hurt. he usually is pretty unhittable.

by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Out of the 90 players

taken in rounds 3-5 of the 2006 draft. Only 3 have reached the majors, Chris Davis, Joe Smith and Jeff Samardzija

by bheidge on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fox 6-3

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ding Dong

The Cubs are dead!!

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We can try this

Hoff Power:

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit!

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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that sooooo much.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romo is dating...

a fat chick! Tony Homo!!

I'll be betting on the Cubs in the NLCS in Vegas in October! Believe!

by EamuCanoli on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I'm clearly behind the times.

When was the Shark called up?

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

today

ascanio sent down

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No wonder.

I hadn’t heard of this move.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shark is pitching now

i am on game tracker and light years behind. where is heilman?

by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well this is embarrassing

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow. that was quick.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

twss.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoff FO6

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Things aren't lookin up

to say the least…

Hello Quad Cities!

by Weerez on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

twhs

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HELLO 5TH PLACE!!!

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Battling with Pittsburgh and Houston for the cellar of the NL Central in 2009

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With a $136M payroll. Amazing it is.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heads will roll

Hendry’s gone if things don’t get turned around. There’s no excuse for a team with that large of a payroll to play this poorly.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just read this in the cbssports glog
’The CUBS should bat their Pitcher Leadoff- That would really piss Soriano off. Maybe he would just QUIT"

what do you guys think

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone who wants Lou fired

Would have their wish granted

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geo BB

Bloop and a blast, anyone?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah. theriot would be that man.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot

would be the one to do it, he has shown more power than most of the team

by bheidge on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question is,

how long will we play like this before management makes some changes? Aren’t there players we can trade for to end our lackluster effort?

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we have lots of exciting things

happening on the farm. we are going to be a-ok. it won’t take much to get a wild-card

by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RALLY TIME!!

Hello Quad Cities!

by Weerez on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs Lose Cubs Lose Cubs Lose

I breathe in, I breathe out, I breathe in, I breathe out …..1234……123456…..123456789….10!

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least

JDRF got some cash by that walk – cause it ain’t going to do much else.

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

UGH LEE

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Beethoven FO7

Game over.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bummer

back to paint fumes

by daily2b on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's

Go Rockies!!!

"Writing is exciting and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go or what you will do." -- Marianne Moore

by duboisdm on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hello, All

Just wanted to remind you that it is nice to have a roof over my head, and full stomach, and that life doesn’t suck as much as the Cubs lead to believe it does.

Get ’em tomorrow, boys!

#GagMeWithGDbbqTongs

"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott

by Reddevil on Jun 30, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AAUGH!!!!

But if we win tomorrow, we win the series.

We’ll get ’em tomorrow.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no ted lilly hit a grand slam

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, yes.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that

sucks. don’t blame our pitchers. they are the best in mlb

by brian custer on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll get no argument from me about that.

I just wish we could find some bats to get them more run support.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

imagine where the cubs would be without our SP

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cellar

Which is where they’re headed anyway.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Us or the team

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take two out of three

I think Wells is pitching game 3.

by Cubbiegoon on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, per probable pitchers on the Cubs' website.

Randy Wells against Virgil Vasquez.

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a pitcher we haven't seen?

back to back shutouts on the horizon?

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team

May force Lou to retire a year early.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Lou, but...

…there’s only so much you can blame the manager for. If you want to blame him for not forcing Soriano out of the leadoff spot, that’s fair game. The problem is not Soriano alone. What can he possibly do? Hendry brought in a new hitting coach and that hasn’t solved the problems either. The problem isn’t the management. It’s a problem with the players themselves. They have no one but themselves to blame for being a team that can’t play above .500 consistently. I honestly think the Cubs would be doing even worse if not for Lou Piniella and it takes a lot for me to admit that.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou is a below average in game manager

and his decisions this year have been beyond bad an awful lot.

Who the hell bats a guy who’s been hitting .170 this month at #2?

Why is Mike Fontenot still a starting player?

Why announce that Milton is going to get a few days off, then use him as a pinch hitter?

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Short bench

People loved him when the team won back to back division titles.

Here goes:

1) Who do you put at #2? Honestly answer that question for me.
2) Aramis Ramirez is on the DL, so the infield has been in shambles. Is it Mike Fontenot’s fault that in his first season as a starter that he has to learn a new position? Granted, he could have done better, but the organization made a judgment call on starting Mike Fontenot.
3) I’d rather not play Milton at all, but they’re paying him too much money to sit.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never "loved" Lou

once I actually saw him manage. I liked that for a couple of years his players seemed to play for him (until the playoffs) but I’ve never been impressed with his in game managing.

1) Theriot

2) No, it’s not Fontenot’s fault that he isn’t very good, and Lou and Jim decided to hand him a job he didn’t earn, it was Jim and LOU’S which is the point of this discussion. Lou’s bad decision to keep him in the starting lineup.

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a statement game if I have ever seen one.

Oh, and for those of you that were waiting for everyone else to lose. The Brewers are rocking the crap out of Johan. The end of this season could be the 4th of July.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Waiting for everyone to lose is not a winning strategy

You have to win your games and take care of your own house. If you can’t win your own games, you’re in trouble.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

if only to get the whack jobs off this board.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012

by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whack or wack?

Anyhow, this team is not good man. The slump is over, the talent is just not there. Honestly, since you seem to be one of few level headed people on here, when do the Cubs try and unload whatever they can? Seriously. 5 games out, 7 games out? We will most likely be 4.5 out after tonight, so when?

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will play the Brewers and Cardinals first before we even begin selling

I still say we won’t

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012

by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if they're within 4-5 games

they won’t sell. Seven or eight games, probably. I don’t see it getting that bad, though.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Against the Brewers for 4 this weekend?

We are not in a good place right now.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But those games are at home

and the Cubs have been pretty good at home, hard as it is to believe.

I’m not going to flush this season down the toilet without a fight.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here! Here!

Totally agree.

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Most of the time what NBF says is true, it is just the same shit we all say minus the need to be overly passionate.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

only towards the inept

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012

by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord

We all do. Without a doubt.

"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Webster's

lists either spelling as accurate, BTW. :)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was one amazing display. I don't even know what to call it. It certainly

wasn’t anything resembling baseball.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this whole season

has resembled the last two weeks of September 2008, when the team didn’t give a crap.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta get tomorrow's game

and 3 of 4 from Milwaukee. 5-2 over this week won’t be bad.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-3

is almost a pipe dream

by bheidge on Jun 30, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say it'll happen

but if the pitching holds up, they’ll have a chance

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be happy..

…if we score five runs in the series and avoid being swept.

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from

worst to first in 07, first to worst in 09

by bheidge on Jun 30, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

soriano should of sat today's game

he really sucks right now

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sitting Soriano...

…won’t make everyone else better.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wouldn't but

you would at least have a better chance of scoring runs.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SORIANO

is killing this team. No other way around it. He’s not alone, but I’d say he is the biggest contrbutor.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what's your idea?

Who in this lineup bats leadoff? Who bats third now? Give me a lineup that can hit with runners in scoring position and I’ll tell you that no one on this team can do it no matter what lineup card you turn in.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If all we did was stick to the same lineup

Nobody would ever have a chance to break out

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for 136 million

i do not want to watch the Iowa Cubs play major league baseball.

by TJ3117 on Jun 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you'd rather watch them get shut out by the Pirates?

Or would it be more embarrassing to see a AAA team score 1 run against the pirates and a $136 throwing up a goose egg?

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again. Give me a lineup with some logic behind it.

You can say someone needs to move in the lineup, but you need to think this out. Here’s a blank lineup card (except for pitcher). Fill it in and do it without knee jerk reactions.

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9) Pitcher

Have at it.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1. Fuld LF
2. Theriot SS
3. Lee 1B
4. Fox 3B
5. Bradley RF
6. Soto C
7. Fukdome CF
8. Blanco 2B
9. Pitcher

This isn’t everyday lineup but lou should change it up for a day or two

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any reason why Soriano is not in the lineup?

And why not bat Theriot leadoff? He’s one of the better hitters on the team and he’s not necessarily an RBI guy. I would not bat Bradley in the heart of the order either. If anything, I’d move Soto down to where you have Bradley.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not Fuld?

Triple A is triple A but look at his BB/K ratio. Bradley and Soto can interchange, it doesn’t really matter.

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no he sported a career .260 average in the MINORS

you’re going to have to excuse me if that doesn’t instill any confidence that he will contribute in any way to sparking our offense

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah too bad he had a career average of .287

but yeah

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I'm going leadoff

I’m going to go with a guy who has proved he can hit major league pitching over a long period. I want a little more experience in the leadoff spot. You can put Fuld second or even Bradley, which is not as odd as it sounds when you consider he seems to prefer taking walks. Fuld isn’t a bad choice, but if you want to move Bradley up, that’s the way to do it.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What evidence do you have that Fuld is actually better

This isn’t about getting rid of a guy you don’t like and just replacing him with someone else. You have to have some indication that he’d actually do a better job. He was .000/.333/.000 in his 14 MLB at-bats.

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that he's new

Alan Trammell can play better than Soriano. look below, Soriano has really proven himself right. He’s had a really great stretch since Ram got injured. Yeah, let’s stick with mediocre players that can’t field for shit. Let’s stick with players that strike out when you need a big hit from them. Yeah, I can’t wait until he strikes out with a runner on third and less than 2 outs. YEAH!

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think he's gonna hit better than Soriano

considering Soriano is hitting a robust .204 since Ram’s injury. Makes you optimistic, right. Along with that average, he has 15 rbis and 5 hrs. IN 43 Games, that makes me really excited !!!!!!

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so sam fuld

is this weeks bobby scales, and jake fox. oh boy. i wonder who will be next?!

by TJ3117 on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) Gerald Perry
2) Lou Pinella
3) Paul Sullivan
4) Jim Hendry
5) Gordon Twittermeyer
6) Bob Brenly
7) Tom Ricketts
8) Alan Trammell
9) Pitcher

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hendry ..... cleaning up!!!!!!!

Milton ...... see the ball hit the ball

by lexmarklover on Jun 30, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My mistake

I’ll trade away the character guys on there to clear up the error

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter

Soriano: 0-3
Fukudome: 0-4

There are two guys consistently playing subpar. It doesn’t matter who takes their place; if the replacement goes 0 fer what have you lost? And if Soriano is “hurt” you give him a few games to heal.

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

does it even matter?

and what start ryan freel or sam fuld…no thanks

by TJ3117 on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Hendry

should take Sullivan’s logic one step further and put Bradley, Soriano, Fukudome, Zambrano, Fontenot, Miles, and Soto on waivers. See if anyone bites. Itmight be a kick in the ass to see that no one wants them.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OMZZ!!! lets drop our players that are currently producing the least!!!

FANTASY BASEBAAAAALLLLLL!

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012

by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah then the cubs should pick up pujols sabathia peavy beckett and tex

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Putting a guy on Waivers

does not mean you drop them. It means if someone bites on them, you can trade them to that team. At least that is my understanding. If Im wrong, I apologize, but it is not cutting them.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, and when noone picks them up, then you have even more clubhouse turmoil

thats the last thing we need

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is?

I think the last thing we need is to let these guys continue to suck without consequence. I could give a rats ass about the clubhouse.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we keep the status quo

this season is lost. A shakeup is needed. Putting guys on waivers would send a message. If guys dont like it, im not really that concerned.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't just start putting your star players on waivers

Let’s wait for Aramis Ramirez to come back and see if we need to make a trade after that. If we can’t make it, we’ll sell. If we’ve got a shot, we’ve got to be buyers.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Star players?

Our stars are Lilly, Lee and Theriot and thats about it. And Ramirez. Those guys I listed are not stars.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot is not a star player

he’s decent, but he’s no where near a STAR

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on a real team no

on this team whos better?

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want to put one of our better hitters on waivers?

What are we? The Pirates.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No we are worse

unfortunately, with about four times the payroll.

Which of our better players did I want on waivers.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we have no money to be buyers

because our stars are bein paid an absolute fortune.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but we DO have money

8-10 million if im not mistaken

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honest question

where are you getting that figure

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've read on here that Hendry has $8-10 million in his back pocket

I could be mistaken

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you read on here as in someone randomly said it once

or it was in a post with something to back it up?

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no dude

hendry just walks around with 10 mil in cash in his back pocket. everyoneeeeeee knows that. duh.

by TJ3117 on Jun 30, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he'll give you a dollar now, two dollars next year

and the other $9,999,997 when you’re 42

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is pretty accurate lol

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thought I read it a couple of times from several different posters

Maybe even Al, but AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA!

Where did you hear THAT rumor? Here?

I’d bet $50 to Cubs Care that the Cubs will NOT spend that money in a trade acquisition this season with the current ownership.

Any takers??

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heine41

i appreciate your optimism but I know you are dying to join the dark side and call a spade a spade. Not every season is going to end up with a division winner. This one is headed South fast. Regroup and hopefully by next year we will have a functional team.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I am an optimist

But I am also a level headed person. I can understand everyone’s frustration who is on said “dark side”. I feel it too. If anyone doubts that I ache and hurt and get pissed off when this team does poorly, then they are sorely mistaken.

I was never as high like most around here last year, and I won’t get low and make unrealistic claims or proclaim the season over when we are not even close to being mathematically eliminated nor are we even 6 games back. Not too mention we have an EASIER schedule the second half of the season.

I agree our team is a mess. I agree we blow hardcore right now. I agree its embarrassing that our $150 million+ payroll ballclub plays like a bunch of unmotivated, lazy superstars.

But the sky isn’t falling yet, Chicken Little

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm no optimist

However, I am a realist. You’ve got to make smart moves and not moves out of desperation.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are two levelheaded posts

Ill agree to disagree with you. I think this season is very close to being lost. I also feel the next couple of years could be really ugly. But only time will tell.

I hope you both are right.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the cubs are only 4 games behind the brewers

IIRC the 2003 cubs were a lot farther behind before the ASB and the 2006 cardinals werent that good having 2 8 game losing streaks and a 7 game losing streak either but still managed to win the world series

by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close doesn't mean for sure

If you don’t make it, you can shake things up in the offseason. You’re losing Rich Harden to free agency. The sale should be done by then. You’ll have an easier time making what I’d say would be the great changes. I don’t think a lot of what’s wrong with this team can be fixed by July 31. There’s no reason to go on full fire sale mode because this season is not done yet.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point is not to start a fire sale

I dont believe we could trade most of these guys. The point would be to send a message. This performance is unacceptable. Would it work. Maybe not, but it would not necessarily mean a fire sale.

Further, if you coud get out from under some of those contracts, that would be well worth suffering a rough fate this season. Imagine what a new GM could do without Fuku’s 12 million annual or Soriano’s 20 million, or Zambrano’s 15 or Bradleys 10

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What could he do?

Zambrano looks to be having more of an off year to me than anything else. I’d say the same with Soriano even though I’m a bit suspicious about decline. I’m sold on Fukudome not being worth his salary, but that contract is too large to deal right now.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and who do we get to take these contracts?

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me be clear

I dont think anyone wants these guys, thats why Im willing to throw them on waivers. If someone does want them, however, then trading them would be the right thing to do.

My point of using waivers, which is the same as Sullivan;s, is that there is a message there. If someone is so supid as to bite on the deal, then even better.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine what a new GM could do without Fuku’s 12 million annual or Soriano’s 20 million, or Zambrano’s 15 or Bradleys 10.

Well, there would be plenty of GMs available at that point, because any GM that took any of those contracts except Z would quickly be fired.

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point of having a job...

…is to try to keep that job. Doing something that you know can get you fired isn’t exactly good for your job security.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point was

That no one is going to take those contracts, again with the exception of Z, for good reason

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

believe me, I hope I'm right too

Worst case scenario though, this season, the last as The Trib’s team, will just epitomize what’s is wrong with this organization, and radical changes will be made once the new ownership gets in with a winning attitude.

Hendry has made some great deals in the past, but this year, this team, unless things turn around, is a fireable offense

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012

by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heine, you said it better

than I ever could.

Gotta hand it to a level-headed Peoria person.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate that coming from you

P.S. I’m from Pekin :)

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pekin?

Well, I just might have to reconsider that. :) Make it “Peoria-area person.”

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey I'm of a different generation

I’m bringing the reputation back :)

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It almost makes me wish the season

was over so I could hear Garry Meier everyday.

"Any old kind of a run wins it!"--Jack Brickhouse

by mattvegas on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We now have a new motto for this team - An Embarassment of Riches.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Optimist - or Pessimist

or “Realist”

We can all agree on one thing:

This team right now is really bad.

I was not expecting to sweep the Pirates. But a shutout??? $140MM payroll vs. $15MM?

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's baseball man

This is not the NFL, things like this happen over the course of a 162 season.

Just sucks that its been happening a bit too often

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a bit too often?

3 months of bad baseball is pretty often.

by TJ3117 on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed,

Heine. It is not the NFL. Note the words, “…team RIGHT NOW is really bad…”

The worst in baseball with RISP.

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes we are horrible right now

But injuries and team-wide slumps know no payroll

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols hits 29 and 30

unbelievable ball player.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

See the sig baby :)

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How you gonna pull that off?

Ricketts going to buy the Cards and then nontender him?

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen how poorly $150 million can be spent

And how teams like the Marlins, Rays, etc. can compete with limited payrolls.

Cubs figure out how to fix one thing and implement the other, getting Pujols is NOT out of the question

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cardinals would have to be insane to give him up

And I mean, literally insane. As in, Tony LaRussa banging his head against the wall, screaming, “ROSEBUD! ROSEBUD!” insane. Ain’t going to happen.

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad I set my beer down

That post really made me laugh.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never say never

but your’re probably right.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

knowing the history of the Cubs

we would finally get Pujols when he’s 45 and cannot hit anymore.

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We got Hornsby in 1929, who won the MVP that year

Problem is that Hack Wilson couldn’t catch a fly ball in the 1929 World Series.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't know this

LaRussa leaving the Cardinals, and the Cardinals inability to field a competitive team, coupled with poor attendance figures for the next two year because of said poor play, it is definitely a possibility

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are right

and I cannot say the man is loyal to the Cardinals. He appears to be. But would want to be the STL GM who lets Pujols go to the Cubs?

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't think the Cardinals will be able to pay him what he deserves even AFTER a hometown discount

and still be able to put the kind of players around him he feels he deserves.

Its like they A. Resign Pujols to his mega-contract and then be the STL Pujols for the next 10 years, or move one and field a competitive team

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not interested in his numbers

he wants rings

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough

I still don’t think he’s leaving St. Louis, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he did.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and if he does

it won’t be for the Cubs

by ElHijoDelRonSanto on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

either us or Boston

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, he could probably get $10 million a year

From ESPN, just for the honor of having him in their presence.

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes going to go where

A. He can be competitve and B. Get Paid.

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bottom line is

there aren’t going to be any changes to the roster until Ramirez has been back a few weeks. Coincidentally, that’s right about at the trading deadline. Once this team’s had ARam in the lineup again for a while — even if he doesn’t hit .350 — Lou and Hendry can make a call.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

We’ve essentially been playing without our RBI guy for about two months now. It’s actually amazing that this team hasn’t gone completely in the cellar without him.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I well stand by it. You add an RBI guy

Other RBI guys will come out of the woodwork

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

except that no one knows how much of ARAM will come back

dislocated shoulder is something that can linger a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. Take it from someone who’s athletic career was ended by them.

I was no all -star, but was a college athlete, and had to give it up because my shoulder constantly popped out, after the first time.

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will be his presence more than his production that will help this team

he could hit .270 and i still think things will come around. We don’t need bombs and power numbers, we need timely hitting.

We need a reminder that when you have runners on 3rd and 2nd with noone out, the pitcher is the one in trouble, not out offense

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that makes no sense

if he hits .270 I’ll be relatively happy. But you’re saying his production won’t matter, then saying that the team needs to see that a pitcher is in trouble with him at the plate.

The only way the pitcher is in trouble is if he’s hitting, and hitting well

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aramis would have delivered in the 8th inning tonight

regardless of his average when he comes back

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by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummm...

we are almost in the cellar.

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not there yet.

Being in near the cellar in June isn’t exactly the same as being in the cellar in July or August.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember this

Just having ARam in the lineup will settle down the order. He doesn’t have to hit a ton.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you don't know the difference between ARam and DeRo

Then I can’t help you. Then again, I don’t think anybody can.

But I forgot, DeRo is the reincarnation of Lou Gehrig.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was actually someone who was driving in runs

which is presumably what ARAM will do. You just didn’t want him here out of some sort of weird spite towards those who did.

You NEVER from what I saw, gave a reason why Dero wouldn’t have upgraded the offense. It’s simple statistics.

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and there's that winning strawman/hyperbole argument you love so much

You seriously crack me up. Getting ARAM back will magically make everyone else better. But when someone says getting Derosa might have made the offense better, it’s so ridiculous, that it’s like calling him Lou Gehrig.

Like I said, your lack of logic knows no bounds

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not the right comparison

DeRosa: .263/.336/.446
Fontenot: .219/.304/.357

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by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither of them is burning it up

But given a choice…

Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

by cocknfire on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a fine comparison when the original argument was

that having a competent hitter makes the rest of the offense better

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a difference

between a “competent hitter” and a perennial all-star who is/has been the best hitter on your club, you moron.

The Cubs roster is filled with competent hitters, more competent than your hero, even.

It’s like talking to a brick wall.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa

I was skeptical of the trade to the Indians when it happened, it definitely damaged our fielding depth. But unil last year DeRo was a pretty average hitter. And last year was a career year. I feel Hendry rolled the dice, gambing that he would not get comparable numbers this year out of DeRo.

Drive, Monkey Drive!

by VegasCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My hero? speaking of a brick wall.....

“The Cubs roster is filled with competent hitters” is it? Odd, I could have sworn we have one of the worst offenses in the NL, and THE worst with RISP. That doesn’t scream competence to me.

Neither do any of your posts for that matter

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at their track record

Yes, the roster is filled with competent hitters.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they aren't competent this year, and Derosa has been

which is the point that keeps flying over your head like an airplane circling a crowded runway

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa

Might not have gotten caught up in this slump too.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you two need you own sitcom

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012

by heine41 on Jun 30, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not me

I’d just be the eccentric drunk. Think Kramer with too much to drink.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take Pujols off the Cardinals

and St. Louis goes in the tank. Does DeRosa help them then? Heck, they’re on their way to going 0-3 with him AND Pujols.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't remember thinking we'd go undefeated with Derosa

but I understand things like nuance are hard for you to understand

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will he hit leadoff too?

If so, we’ve solved all of our problems ;)

by Danwood on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick

Posting more Erin Andrews pictures may make it actually happen.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I wouldn't hate that

but it would make me wonder what we’re giving up to get him, and whether those prospects would be better spent on upgrading our offense

by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why so serious?

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jun 30, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can stand on your

head with suppositions, but I can just see what is happening currently.

When (if) the time comes that they can play at a .600 clip for the rest of the season, then I’ll give them credit where it is due.

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel your pain, E

Say the Serenity Prayer a few times if you have to. Don’t jump ship.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh - I'll be okay

Bruce until we get about 10 games out…

I am gonna write Jim Hendry, anyway!

by The E-Man on Jun 30, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good night

hope you all have a nice evening.

by Ryanocm1 on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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