The Pirates Are Dealing, Why Can't The Cubs? Cubs vs. Pirates Preview, Tuesday 6/30, 6:05 CT
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:00 PM CDT
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The Pirates will have a new look of sorts when they take the field tonight. Earlier today they traded ex-Cub farmhand Eric Hinske to the Yankees for a couple of minor leaguers. They'll recall a Triple-A journeyman, 28-year-old Garrett Jones, to take Hinske's place on the roster.
The Pirates have also sent Nyjer Morgan and Sean Burnett to the Nationals for Lastings Milledge and Joel Hanrahan. Morgan's 29 on Thursday and the only thing he's leading the league in is caught stealing. Milledge, at 24, still has a chance to become a decent regular player. As for Burnett and Hanrahan, that's a classic case of "maybe a change of scenery will help".
Meanwhile, the Cubs seek bigger prey. Phil Rogers again continued his "get rid of Z" campaign in today's Tribune, something I think is so silly I won't even link to it. The headline of this post is, I suppose, a bit misleading -- of course Jim Hendry is trying to make deals; I know he always is working his cellphone overtime. It's not easy to make trades if no one is dealing right now, and with 23 teams still within six games of a playoff spot, can you blame teams for thinking, "We'll wait a couple weeks and see if we get hot, and maybe we'll be buyers instead of sellers."
Also, Hendry is well known for not negotiating deals in the media, which I'm sure players appreciate. Many of Hendry's best deals (the Aramis Ramirez/Kenny Lofton deal of 2003, and the Derrek Lee trade of 2004) came out of nowhere. I don't think we'll see any action from the Cubs till after the All-Star break.
Lineup for tonight via Twittermyer:
Soriano, lf; Fukudome, cf; Lee, 1b; Fox, 3b; Hoffpauir, rf; Soto, c; Fontenot, 2b; Theriot, ss; Lilly, p
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Ross Ohlendorf was one of the miscellaneous Yankees minor leaguers acquired by the Pirates last year for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte. Since Yankee minor leaguers are generally overhyped, it's not surprising that Ohlendorf has struggled at times. He has never faced the Cubs.
Ted Lilly has not faced the Pirates this year. Last year he was 2-0 with two no-decisions and an alarmingly high 5.09 ERA. Adam LaRoche is 5-for-12 (.417) with three doubles and a HR vs. Ted. Brandon Moss is 3-for-3 with a HR. The rest of the Pirates, he handles pretty well.
Tonight's game is on CSN Plus -- that'll be a different channel than the normal CSN feed in Chicago. EI (at least on my Comcast system) lists only one feed -- so who knows which one you'll get. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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Based on early reports
Milledge will finish his rehab assignment and then go to Indianapolis. Which means Jeff Salazar (another Triple-A journeyman) is more than likely headed to Pittsburgh. I’ll find out what I can when I head over to the Indianapolis Indians game tonight.
Either way, Pittsburgh is definitely weaker tonight (and possibly playing shorthanded). The Cubs need to take advantage of the 24-man or 23-man Pirates roster.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
Why would the Pirates want Jeff Salazar instead of Milledge? Weird.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm sitting here in the Victory Field press box
Salazar is going up to Pittsburgh as I hit post.
Milledge broke his finger in Syracuse, which is why he’ll be coming to Indianapolis.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo's reporting it's Garrett Jones going up...
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 30, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones went up earlier when Hinske was dealt.
Milledge is still rehabbing his broken finger, so he’s going to the GCL Pirates. Salazar will take up the 25th spot on the Pirates roster.
From what I’ve heard from my sources in Indianapolis, Milledge will report to Indianapolis once healthy.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming Hanrahan is taking Burnett's spot?
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
From a talent standpoint, Pittsburgh is a big winner in the deal.
Though there’s a chance their starting outfield for a while (Salazar in LF, McCutchen in CF, Jones in RF) is the one Indianapolis started the year with.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised they gave up on Morgan....
…definately an advantage if Milledge lives up to his expectations, but it looked like Nyger was having a pretty decent season this year.
But, yeah, an OF of Milledge and McCutcheon could be dangerous in a couple years if they play as expected.
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 30, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what will make or break the trade
If Milledge comes around, and he’s only 24, then the Pirates have a great piece for the future. Plus, Hanrahan is loads better than Burnett when it comes to “stuff,” so I like the trade for the Pirates.
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by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First? Second
Awesome.
Lilly is pitching. The game’s basically wrapped up.
by cubbybear on Jun 30, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we score at least one run
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jun 30, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why doesn't Lilly start every game?
by jerry morales rules on Jun 30, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, Teddy got ROCKED in Detroit last week when I saw him.
93 degrees and Ted getting shelled. There wasn’t enough beer…
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by Zeke on Jun 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to Lou
for not feeling the need to start Sam Fuld, which had been speculated with Bradley taking a couple of days off.
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
by davidalanu on Jun 30, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bradley should be in the line-up every day, unless he's on the DL.
He’s a switch hitter for crying out loud.
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can only hit from the right side of the plate. hes working with von joshua to hit better from the left side
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then thank god we signed him as a switch hitter
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes b/c no switch hitters swing ever got out of whack
and needed a day or two to get it back.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a day or two?????
seriously?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehhh... whatever. Just another BS excuse for this guy to sit out again.
Over the last 3 years
Lefthanded: .294, 27 HRs, 103 RBIs, 677 ABs.
Righthanded: .320, 22 HRs, 63 RBIs in 297 ABs.
You’re paying him to play everyday. So, unless he’s hurt, he should be out there. He’s gotten plenty of rest with his BS days off. We need to win games, and we need him to help us win.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our whole team is practically batting .212 this year. j/k
The only way he’s gonna start hitting, is by gaining confidence in real game situations. Ditto for the whole team.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or by getting a few extra hours in the cage
with no one but his coach watching.
Nah… no one ever gains confidence that way. Crazy talk.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be crazy to suggest...
He bats RH then?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was signed to add LH balance to the team
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that was poor thinking...
as he’s always been much better as a RH hitter than as a LH hitter. He’s only slightly above average batting LH over his career.
by SouthernCub on Jun 30, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously he hasn't been good LH...
I’ll take some production now over balance.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And instead... he's added a chemical inbalance.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He sucks
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great insight.
though I always appreciate brevity
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by LAcarl519 on Jun 30, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still trying to figure out why Hendry felt the need to recall him in the first place
so we could have another bench player who never gets in?
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because our OF depth right now = Hoffpauir and Fox.
Not exactly someone I’d trot out there in the 9th inning of a 1 run game.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
If Fukudome got hurt, Fuld is our only other option in center.
by elgato on Jun 30, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for that guy who started in CF yesterday
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by berselius on Jun 30, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there were other options in Iowa that were actually better hitters
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Fuld is a great base stealer...
Oh, wait….
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley taking a couple days off...
What’s this all about?
GOD I’m sick of him. Sure would be nice to have a 10M outfielder that could play more than 4 days a week.
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's getting a day off to work solely with VJ
What is so objectionable about a guy getting work 1 on 1?
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he going to work solely with VJ...
during the game? No, of course not.
Bottom line is, he needs to be in the lineup much, much more often.
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he needs a day to let what he does with VJ set in
You’ve never taken a day at work to solely focus on one thing?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's absurd.
So after working with a hitting coach for an hour or two this afternoon, he’s not capable of playing tonight? He has to let it sink in for over 24 hours? Sorry, but that’s terrible logic.
And no, I’ve never taken a day off of work to focus on how to stop failing at my job.
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good fo you
I’m glad you’ve never had to let something marinate overnight to “get it”.
Must be nice.
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is.
I’ve only been in my field for three years. I wouldn’t expect a guy who’s been playing baseball for over 20 years to have to take a night off to let what a hitting coach told him sink in.
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great fo you
that doesn’t mean NEEDING it is wrong.
or having your boss give you that time doesn’t make you dumb. it means you learn differently. or you need to work differently. or you just need to change something.
or we can all be outraged about a guy working to get better in a way we don’t like. woo! outrage!!
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have absolutely no idea...
what Milton Bradley’s learning style is, so don’t talk like you do.
I just personally think it’s absurd that after all the games he’s missed, he’s sitting out yet another one to “let it all sink in” as you say.
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive never read so many posts
from a person who is negative about everything……
its been a pattern that Lou will pull a person after a good game..
once again…2 hits last night…and pulled tonight…..
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 30, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said before the game that MB was getting today off
and if he’d gone back on that he’d be a liar. again.
and i’m the negative one?
what?
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just read your
last 20 posts and look how negative each one is..
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 30, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read her posts
and didn’t see anything negative in any of them.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The usual bitchers
just want a reason to bitch, Allie. That’s all.
MB could come up with a cancer cure tomorrow and some here would crucify him. (And please, don’t interpret that as approval for everything MB does.)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 30, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He cured cancer!?!?
That bum. He’ll never amount to anything. Just look at his splits vs. Huntington’s!
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by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piniella said he was going to do this yesterday
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Lou also said he was going to start Fuld.
So which is it, Lou? Telling the truth or not telling the truth?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could have changed his mind
It’s not necessarily about lying.
by elgato on Jun 30, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he just changed his mind about starting Fuld
so he can put him in in the 7th and he talks Hoff out.
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
But that part doesn’t surprise me. I was thinking along the lines that Allie was.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OR MAYBE THEY ARE TRADING HIM FOR LIND IT COULD HAPPEN
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have that card!
I’m still waiting him out, he’ll break out any day now and become the “Future Star” he was billed as.
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by DTJchris on Jun 30, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or just maybe he changed his mind
give lou a break I believe he has earned it.
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by MandMexpress12 on Jun 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe one of them came down with the fuld and needed to clear his head :-)
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by LAcarl519 on Jun 30, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why the hell would you want to see Fuld start?
he’s not good, he’s basically a slower Joey Gathright
by WanderingWanderer on Jun 30, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Bradley is *taking* a couple of days off
I think the team is giving him a couple of days off. There’s a big difference there
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by berselius on Jun 30, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox batting clean-up again! Nice:)
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
playing 3B.... good.
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by digitalbenjamin on Jun 30, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caption:
Whooooa, I shouldn’t have eaten one of Geo’s brownies…
by 10 14 23 26 on Jun 30, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach and diarrhea
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by tony412 on Jun 30, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and on top of all that
I’m high as shit
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by El Borto on Jun 30, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fly ball pitcher
adventursome OF…
Looks a good game to miss…
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else have plans to see Vitters while the Chiefs are in the Chicago-land area this week?
Well, cancel those plans, because he has been promoted. I was really looking forward to seeing him play
by murphymj on Jun 30, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bummer for your weekend
but good for him and the organization. His development is important for my future.
by madcow256 on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fukudome 2nd in the order?
WTF.
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by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The FAA has ordered the Fukuchopper to fly on a recognizance mission tonight along the Allegheny
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 30, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not...
He thrived in that spot earlier, let’s see if he can get his mojo back. He had some hard hit balls the last few games.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jun 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct.
Fukudome batting 2nd this year: 77 PA, .288/.377/.515 — .892 OPS. They should probably just put him 2nd and leave him there.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume you mean against right-handers
He’ll start against lefties (probably) until Reed returns. Hitting Dome lower in the order against lefties is fine by me.
by elgato on Jun 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, vs. RHP.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would mean
Giving two of are three worst hitters the most at bats.
by Notsnud on Jun 30, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Riot there. Just my opinion, though.
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by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 30, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This proves that Lou has what it takes to be a true part of Cubs Nation..
Wishful thinking.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
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by Clutche on Jun 30, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's funny is that I support Fuku in the two hole
as well as MB, because of my own wishful thinking about their ability to start hitting and getting on base.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theriot
Second highest BA on the team, batting eighth?
by JFCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess
this is relevant to your question…
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 30, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that gives us a good #8 hitter!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may help...
The bottom of the order hasn’t been that great this year.
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by Fishbone2 on Jun 30, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thebottom of theorder hasn’t been that great this year.
Fixed the for you.
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
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by Fishbone2 on Jun 30, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly I just wanted an excuse to try
the new strikeout button…
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by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keed . . . I keed
Kind of.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well for consistency's sake...
I hope you didn’t have a problem with the whole Horry Kow shirts thing
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by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So a racist depiction on a t-shirt is the same as using sexual innuendo? Not quite.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jun 30, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course since the only thing that is the same thing is the same thing
and obviously these are different things. But they’re both demeaning to Fukudome, and he’s made it clear through his intermediaries that he doesn’t appreciate both the shirts and the sexual wordplay on his name.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just making the point that sexual innuendo is in no way comparable to racist stereotypes.
The play on Kosuke Fukudome’s name may be in poor taste but it doesn’t really compare to making racist depictions of him. You were in fact equating a sexual innuendo with a racist t-shirt when there is a huge difference.
by Acapulco Taco Pie on Jun 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm... no I wasn't.
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by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Fukudome batting 2nd
I guess that Lou is picking the lineup out of a hat.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it now - alternating between lefties & righties, Lou is
Soriano – RIGHT
’Dome – LEFT
Lee – RIGHT
Fox – RIGHT
Hoffpauir, – LEFT
Soto – RIGHT
Fontenot – LEFT
Theriot – RIGHT
Lilly – LEFT
by JFCubFan on Jun 30, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that's alternating, all right.
RLRRLRLRL. Close, I guess.
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by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think my van is making that noise.
Needs to go into the shop for a tune up…
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King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 30, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Kemp has batted in the bottom third of the lineup a lot this season for the Dodgers
and he’s probably their best hitter with Manny out. Strange things these lineups…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a hunch, but I smell this trade:
Riot and a good pitching prospect package (any ideas?) for Roberts..
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
peavy
See ya
Ballgame…again.
by krummy12 on Jun 18, 2009 3:57 PM EDT [down 3-1 in the SEVENTH INNING vs. Sox -- Cubs win 6-5 in the 9th]
Nice
And the fool’s gold lasts approximately 23 hours. Not a good team. Not even close.
by krummy12 on Jun 19, 2009 4:25 PM EDT [down 6-0 in the THIRD INNING vs. Cle - Cubs win 8-7 in the 10th]
by joeschmitt on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
derosa
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about derosa, peavy, roberts, teahan, AND holliday?
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Kerry Wood
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you need is a little blue pill
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT IS ALIVE!
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not surprisingly, a second baseman.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
really? roberts? again?
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't necesarily support the trade.. but
I could see Hendry having the discussion – especially considering that we do not have a leadoff hitter and he’s a stronger bat.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 30, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Cubs had a $136 million lead-off hitter...
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 30, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn. Hitter, they forgot to include the hitter.
Maybe, Hendry only told him he’s the $136M lead-off GUY.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could be on to something there
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
$136 milliong lead-off swinger
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 30, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd be better off with this guy
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jun 30, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he may run like Mays
But he hits like s@#t.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, there's one of Worf's Top 10
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly ...
except I don’t know that Sori can run.
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jun 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord, all this talk about can't run, can't hit.
Pretty soon someone’s gonna chime in to move him down in the order. Like there aren’t enough .200 hitters in the middle of the order already.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never!
he will never move down in the order … i can’t say how much i enjoy the fact that he can hit a leadoff HR and we go up 1-0!
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jun 30, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when's the last time that happened?
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jun 30, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ATL June 2nd - we lost 6-5
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jun 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
flailing at junk is going to be so much more attractive in the 5 spot!
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many SBs does he have
7 … 7 stolen bases … might as well have him bat 5th.
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
by junkhorse on Jun 30, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have a lead off hitter
and another bat would be great… but not another 2B, unless the deal to get such a player gets rid of the dozen or so we already have.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and our leadoff hitter is doing a suburb job this year..............
no need to change now
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jun 30, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That could be the problem as well...
Home games are played in the City. :)
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did we trade him to the Schaumburg Flyers
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 30, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where else would you put said bat?
We’re locked in at nearly every other position.
by elgato on Jun 30, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great plan
Let’s trade away the most consistent hitter on the team with nearly the highest OBP as well. Especially when the hitting is going so swimmingly already. Big Jim better watch out—you’re clearly itching for his job.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded." -Jim Frey
by lapetino on Jun 30, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT FAIR
I thought Fuld was going to start. Now I don’t have to rush back from my dinner to see the game. Worked yesterday I did not get home till the 6th.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not fair??
Fuld shouldn’t start. Why would you want him to start over a better player?
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since the Cubs won with Jessica not watching...
… maybe this is for the best.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same logic applies
about the Cubs winning without Fuld playing.
by elgato on Jun 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um contrary to popular
I can joke about Fuld. However I am kind of disappointed since I was dumb enough to believe the reports he would start tonight.
I will make sure I am home by the 8th when he comes in to pinch run for Milton.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton's not playing tonight.
You are assuming he’d pinch-hit and get on base. That’s a pretty big assumption.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Fox/Hoffpauir will do the on base getting
and Fuld will come in on a pinch runner / defensive replacement
"There are no curses here...Games are won and lost on the baseball field" - Lou Piniella
by El Borto on Jun 30, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow great minds think alike.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry so upset about Fuld I failed to understand the rest of the line up
Runs for Hoff and gets in.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
..and promptly gets thrown out at 2nd
:)
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Jun 30, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie Guillen goes on a rant about the Cubs today...
Wait for it to be published this evening or tomorrow.
The quotes go something like this: “If I ever managed the Cubs, Jerry Reinsdorf would have to be dead, and the governor would have to knock down Wrigley Field and build a new stadium for me.”
And… a lot of F-bombs about the Cubs, Cub fans, and Wrigley Field in general.
What a class act.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
by SackMan on Jun 30, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And he does it b/c people keep talking about it
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jun 30, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to argue with him most of the time
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
by Clutche on Jun 30, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I posted in the thread about this...
… statements like this are best ignored. It drives them crazy.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get how he doesn't rack up the fines...
It’s a different league, but Mark Cuban gets fined nearly anytime he opens his mouth. Yet Ozzie is repeatedly allowed to make idiotic comments about a number of different topics, yet nothing ever happens. What gives?
by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He reads like a congressman saying stuff to keep his voters happy.
Wait for his divorce from the sox and him seeking a management job, tone will probably differ.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that will be a funny day
can’t wait to heard what sox fans say about him then
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: the f-bombs
A Cub manager had a better rant back in the day.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie is like the organ grinder's monkey...
he’s there to chatter a bunch and occasionally dump on someone so you don’t notice the organ grinder lifting your wallet…
…or in the case of the Sux, beating you two of 3 at the Cell…
:(
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 30, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you mean monkey organ grinding?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on Jun 30, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie is an idiot.
He craves attention and crap like this gets it for him.
by sue369 on Jun 30, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by DrCrawdad on Jun 30, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al-
Hanrahan actually isn’t a bad closer. He has had a good amount of bad luck and is much better than his numbers would indicate. 35/14 k/bb which is not bad. Washingtons defense is bad which has contributed to the bad luck. check out the babip.
by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And he was pitching for the Nats...
a change of scenery may do him some good.
Not that Pittsburgh is a positive change.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said...
… change of scenery might do both those pitchers some good.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 30, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd rather live it Pittsburgh than DC.
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let'
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...
It’s been that kind of day. Get in at 7 to work on something I ultimately didn’t need to do and our building management schedules a fire drill for 4:45.
I could use a win to improve my mood.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 30, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't we all...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Jun 30, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CAPTION: Look out Barry, I've got you in my sights!
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ken Rosenthal thinks half our team need to be on tranquilizers.
by AzCubfan24 on Jun 30, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They're not already?
Coulda fooled (some of) the folks here.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 30, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see the Cubs take a stab at Ian Snell.
I think it is clear Snell is on his way out of Pitt, despite being talented enough to be an average #3 and a solid #4/5. A change of scenery seems like just what he needs, and you can never have too much pitching.
"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP
by vtcub on Jun 30, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Snell looked great on Sunday. 17 K's, 13 consecutive batter
He may be a guy who benefits from a change of scenery. He wanted to come to Indianapolis to escape the “negativity” in Pittsburgh. Of course, he may also be a mental midget.
Though I think if the Cubs could send Pittsburgh a major league-ready reliever, they might have a shot at picking up Snell.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish the Cubs had a major league-ready reliever
or two
by vonde6 on Jun 30, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Guzman can help solidify the pen
Things were going pretty well while he was in there.
That said, I wonder if Stevens and another player might be enough to nab Snell.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure the folks at
bucs dugout would let you have him for a legit prospect. no thanks.
by tim815 on Jun 30, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing the folks at Bucs Dugout aren't in charge of the actual team.
"Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." -Dusty Baker on OBP
by vtcub on Jun 30, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cue Van Halen
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Jun 30, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Joel Hanrahan
had a number of mechanical and/or injury problems with the Dodgers. His mechanics got screwed up in the minors after a long layoff due to dead arm, and he was never quite the same afterwards thanks to mechanical problems.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on Jun 30, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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