Piniella voted least popular manager

And Ozzie was in second..

4 months ago All The Way 32 comments 1 recs |

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that’s funny, seeing as he was the national league manager of the year last year.

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by laidbackliam on Jun 30, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Obviously not according to the players lol.

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by All The Way on Jun 30, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We also had 8 all-stars last year.

Which means nothing this year.

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by dtpollitt on Jun 30, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

With the exception of Wedge...

every person on that list is a “high profile” manager.

I am surprised that Piniella is number one though.

by kanderber on Jun 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not surprised

Lou is clearly not a player friendly manager. He does not even remember most of their names. FYI you don’t have to
mellow to be popular. Cox is voted the one they would MOST like to play FOR.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So let's see.

We had the manager EVERYONE supposedly wanted to play for — Baker — and didn’t win.

Now we have the manager NO ONE supposedly wants to play for — and haven’t won a playoff game in two years’ worth of trying.

Someone in the middle, please.

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by Al on Jul 1, 2009 4:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well that is what I have been saying

Since early last year. Welcome to my world.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Throw as much cash at Bobby Cox or TLR as they want

I don’t care if the Cubs pay Cox like an all-star first baseman.

/fantasy

by dr stabbingworth on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t want another old guy with a record of wining a WS anywhere from a few years to a decade or more ago, I want someone younger, hungrier and willing to both kick butt and support players. I don’t mean it has to be some unknown guy in his 30s by not keen on AARP members who have been place for two decades.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 1, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I want...

…is a WS title. I don’t care who it is. Cubs fans would have immortalized Piniella as the greatest manager ever if the team had managed to win a pennant and then the WS last year. Obviously that didn’t happen. Joe Girardi has a team in better shape than we do and he’s supposedly in the hot seat if you believe the rumors. Maybe that guy would have been a better fit here in Chicago. We may never know.

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by Ace Venom on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe his team

would be the better acquisition…

MANAGERS DONT WIN BASEBALL GAMES, PLAYERS DO

it doesn’t matter what manager we have in here, we’ve failed as an organization because we’ve failed to acquire and develop good players and then the occasional time that we have been fortunate enough to do that…. we trade them away….

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 1, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Warren Spahn once said...

…that he might have been the only player to play for Casey Stengel before and after he was a genius.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jul 1, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just like the 3 bears!

by doofus cubs guy on Jul 1, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bottom line....

manager doesn’t make that much of a difference….

we just like *itch about them

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 1, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

torre

on both list. kind of funny

by Glacier on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fascinating!

Only three managers received a significant portion of the vote and only Chicago managers received over 10%. This is, in my mind, a real indictment of Lou.

At a time when a number of people are complaining about the players Jim Hendry couldn’t get, you have to wonder if this played into things at all.

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Jun 30, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes and no

There are players who are going to bite on the money and a chance to play for a contender. I have to think Adam Dunn would have jumped at the chance to play here given how much energy he brought to Team USA in the WBC. There are some that probably didn’t want to come to Chicago for whatever reason and Lou was probably one of those reasons. Lou won’t be skipper of the Cubs much longer. Whether he chooses to retire after this season or waits for the end of his contract, he’s in the twilight of his career as a major league manager.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't be surprised if we had no shot

at Raul Ibanez.

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Jul 1, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a surprise

"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella

by Clutche on Jun 30, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Really no surprise

As mentioned, he forgets names of players, his on field management with the staff is in question, and whether we like it or not he is older.
I wanted him gone a month a go. However I have a sad feeling he will be here for the remainder of this year.

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by Grockcubs on Jul 1, 2009 8:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure what to make of this poll.

For starters, I’d like a sabermagician to weigh in on how relevant that sample size (380 players) is. Second, I wonder if this is kind of like surveying a bunch of college students on what professor they’d least like to study under. The toughest profs – who also happen to be among the better ones – may come in at the top because they’re more demanding and less fun to be around.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You hit the nail on the head

I won’t disclose some of the reviews I’ve gotten as an instructor, but I guarantee you that they learned.

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by Ace Venom on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

I’d also like to know what the age range of the respondents was. I’d guess younger, more inexperienced players would be more apt to not want to play for tough veterans like Piniella and Torre.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd guess all the relievers

would be more apt to not want to play for Lou.

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Jul 1, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe the surveyors started in the bullpen...

…and worked their way down into the dugout.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bruce Miles...

…weighs in on the poll here and voices doubt as well.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How about that Marquis All-Star stuff in Miles' post?

Where’s all the Jason Marquis love? Where are the people crying for him to replace Rich Harden?

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Jul 1, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My guess is...

…if starting pitching was more of a problem, you might hear more of an outcry re: Marquis. And even that’s a big maybe – he seems to have been cast in a villian’s role even though he didn’t do all that much wrong with the Cubs besides take too much money and make one ill-advised spring training remark.

It will be high drama if he does get picked for the NL All-Star team considering the game is in St. Louis.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 1, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If only Lou was managing

(for more reasons than one)

Randy Wells - You continue to astound me.

by DGU on Jul 1, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There is some actual newsy DeRosa news in that post.

He may have a wrist injury:

The loss was compounded by a possible wrist injury to the newly acquired DeRosa, who pulled himself from the game after experiencing pain in his left wrist during a fourth-inning at-bat.

DeRosa’s wrist will be X-rayed today but Tuesday night he found it hard to hide his concern. “There are so many small bones there. It’s not like tweaking a hamstring where you can run slower or your arm bothering you where you can ease up,” said De Rosa, who may have hurt himself during his ninth at-bat since being acquired Saturday from the Cleveland Indians. “The wrist and feet are two spots there isn’t much protection for. Swinging a bat, if it’s going to cause pain, is a problem. That’s why I took myself out.”

So we may not see him next week after all.

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by Al on Jul 1, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As Bob Dylan once sang...

…what a simple wrist of fate.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs