Padilla or Glavine?
by frustratedfan on Jun 4, 2009 11:39 AM CDT
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PrintThe Rangers have placed Padilla on waivers. The Cubs claim him, the Cubs have him. No dickering around with a "no-trade" clause or negotiating for players. The Braves released Glavine even though he looked pretty good in his rehab starts. Do the Cubs need either of these guys as a number 4 or 5? What about plugging Glavine into Dempster's spot in the rotation and moving Dempster back to closer? What about Glavine or Padilla as a closer? Glavine, in particular, seems to me to be cut out for the role at this point in his career.
Of course, the whole point, at least with respect to Padilla, may be mooted. The Nationals are well in front of the Cubs in Waiver priority. They very badly need starters and a way to show the fans a commitment to the future. And they have a low payroll. Claiming Padilla would instantly give them a much better starting staff and convincing Glavine to sign would give their young pitchers a role model.
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I'd take Glavine,
but make it clear that he’s not a starter. Put Demp back in the bull-pen? Not only is that a waste of his value, but it would be a violation of the spirit of his contract. He proved himself last year, and got signed as a starter. He’d need to screw up way worse than he has to this date.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
I'd take a shot on Glavine if he wants to relieve, also
Dempster deserves to start.
Padilla is an angry man . . . I don’t think he’d be a good addition.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
You're most likely correct
And in that case, I’d say no to both players. However, if he did, I’d take a flier on him in the ’pen.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
then I don't want him.
We have our starters. We’ve already decided to put one in the pen. Who would we put there? Wells? No, thanks.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Put Demp back in the bull-pen? Not only is that a waste of his value, but it would be a violation of the spirit of his contract.
great point. that would negate the “too much for a reliever” argumenet about Wood
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Starting pitching is the one thing we don't need...
So the answer is no to both of them.
I thought about a maybe for Padilla
but Glavine is D-U-N done.
I haven’t seen Padilla recently though.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 4, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
If Mike Maddux doesn't want Padilla... then neither should we.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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It MIGHT be worth a shot
See what Glavine has. All those peopel who were saying to put Marshall back in the pen, this might validate that. Padilla isn’t better than what we have now at the 4/5 spot
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
I don't think Glavine is better than what we have either...
He just got cut by the organization for whom he was one of the faces of the franchise for years, and whom is mediocre. If they aren’t willing to give him a shot, why do you think he’d be worth a shot as a Cub?
The guy is 43, had a WHIP of 1.64 last year, is coming off of injury and didn’t impress the Braves enough to keep him around in the minors to see what he has.
Ugh and ugh.
No thanks. Glavine’s 43 and was, by some reports, not cracking 80 MPH in A ball.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
if that is true, he is done
no team would want to touch that
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
in response to Al's comment
“by some reports, not cracking 80 MOH in A ball”
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
What about plugging Glavine into Dempster’s spot in the rotation and moving Dempster back to closer?
…
Not gonna happen
if they turned Wood away due to the price tag
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
This would be a horrendously bad idea.
And yes, Wreckard, I know it’s not yours and you’re quoting from the original post.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would want to get fewer innings out of one of our best pitchers
Gregg’s conversion rate hasn’t been that bad, I’m not sure why people are so desperate to replace him already.
Wood had actually blown 4 saves by this time last year. So going by that metric, we’ve actually improved at closer.
I think Padilla makes about 12 million
and the Rangers are not eating it so that is a non starter
I would seriously consider Glavine if he would consider long relief and a possible staring role if it opens up
I am NOT kidding when I mentioned last night he would be a BIG asset ON THE BENCH because he knows how to
do a sacrifice bunt better than any player in the league. He can do it himself and teach the rest of everyone how to get it done.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Step back from the keyboard and repeat after me...
“The Cubs do not need another starting pitcher.”
“Randy Wells is a big league starter.”
“When Harden returns, the Cubs will have six starters, including Marshall in the pen”
“Rich Harden will not be a reliever.”
Repeat as necessary.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
Give Padilla the league min
and put him in the bullpen. Can’t be any worse than what we have now.
isnt our DL List
Big enough already??
I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!
they don't
at all whatsoever
I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!
Just say no
to Glavine because he hasn’t got anything left. Atlanta makes few mistakes about their players. I trust them when they say he’s done. Padilla has an $8M contract we’d have to pick up for a guy who has a WHIP over 1.50 the past 4 years. Texas needs SP so if they cut him, why would we add him to a team that has plenty of quality SP.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
Re: Glavine
No. Hell No.
Hell to the no.
And we already have a clown in Zambrano. We don’t need another one in Padilla.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Tom Glavine - Bunting Instructor
He puts down a pretty mean bunt. Perhaps he can put on a clinic for the boys. They could use the help.
If he can still pitch, than that’s gravy.
"I'm just giving the fireworks guy time to re-load".
~ Former Pitching Coach Billy Connors
At
this point you can plug in the best starters in the history of baseball. But with this defense and the offense it really does not matter,
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Next question please.
SP is the only reason this team is above the mendoza line at this point.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
If we were to get Padilla
We’d have to double the amount of Gatorade machines. We don’t need them (the machines) or Padilla, Glavine. Mr. Ricketts isn’t shelling out any more quarters til after the season’s over. July 31 is gonna be a bad day for us Arm-chair managers. Cringe now while we can.
"It was a wise Man that invented Beer" (Plato)
our bullpen is horrible...
…so if Glavine would take a relief roll, then yes to Glavine
Padilla is too much of a head case. We have those already.
by Cubs and Hawks fan on Jun 5, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions
Why would Glavine
agree to come out of the bullpen? He’s been a starter his whole career and is a finesse pitcher. He doesn’t need the money. Right now, apart from the joy of playing/competing, he probably just wants wins to enhance his career total. He won’t get those as a reliever.
by Orval Overall on Jun 5, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
pitching
we have good starting pitching. how about getting aubrey huff to play 3rd base in case ramirez does not make it back.
If they throw in a "shift" key, I'm all for it!
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 6, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
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