Padilla or Glavine?

by frustratedfan on Jun 4, 2009 11:39 AM CDT Comment 41 comments

The Rangers have placed Padilla on waivers. The Cubs claim him, the Cubs have him. No dickering around with a "no-trade" clause or negotiating for players. The Braves released Glavine even though he looked pretty good in his rehab starts. Do the Cubs need either of these guys as a number 4 or 5? What about plugging Glavine into Dempster's spot in the rotation and moving Dempster back to closer? What about Glavine or Padilla as a closer? Glavine, in particular, seems to me to be cut out for the role at this point in his career.

Of course, the whole point, at least with respect to Padilla, may be mooted. The Nationals are well in front of the Cubs in Waiver priority. They very badly need starters and a way to show the fans a commitment to the future. And they have a low payroll. Claiming Padilla would instantly give them a much better starting staff and convincing Glavine to sign would give their young pitchers a role model.

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Should the Cubs acquire Glavine or Padilla

Both

3 votes

Padilla but not Glavine

15 votes

Glavine, but not Padilla

34 votes

Neither

95 votes

147 votes | Poll has closed

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I'd take Glavine,

but make it clear that he’s not a starter. Put Demp back in the bull-pen? Not only is that a waste of his value, but it would be a violation of the spirit of his contract. He proved himself last year, and got signed as a starter. He’d need to screw up way worse than he has to this date.

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by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd take a shot on Glavine if he wants to relieve, also

Dempster deserves to start.

Padilla is an angry man . . . I don’t think he’d be a good addition.

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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way he agrees to that.

by Poloplaya14 on Jun 4, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're most likely correct

And in that case, I’d say no to both players. However, if he did, I’d take a flier on him in the ’pen.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

then I don't want him.

We have our starters. We’ve already decided to put one in the pen. Who would we put there? Wells? No, thanks.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Put Demp back in the bull-pen? Not only is that a waste of his value, but it would be a violation of the spirit of his contract.

great point. that would negate the “too much for a reliever” argumenet about Wood

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Starting pitching is the one thing we don't need...

So the answer is no to both of them.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought about a maybe for Padilla

but Glavine is D-U-N done.

I haven’t seen Padilla recently though.

by jerry morales rules on Jun 4, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If Mike Maddux doesn't want Padilla... then neither should we.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Jun 4, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GLAVINE FOR CLOSER!

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 4, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It MIGHT be worth a shot

See what Glavine has. All those peopel who were saying to put Marshall back in the pen, this might validate that. Padilla isn’t better than what we have now at the 4/5 spot

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Jun 4, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think Glavine is better than what we have either...

He just got cut by the organization for whom he was one of the faces of the franchise for years, and whom is mediocre. If they aren’t willing to give him a shot, why do you think he’d be worth a shot as a Cub?

The guy is 43, had a WHIP of 1.64 last year, is coming off of injury and didn’t impress the Braves enough to keep him around in the minors to see what he has.

by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh and ugh.

No thanks. Glavine’s 43 and was, by some reports, not cracking 80 MPH in A ball.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 4, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wells

Thanks.

by lswaidz on Jun 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

if that is true, he is done

no team would want to touch that

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 4, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

in response to Al's comment

“by some reports, not cracking 80 MOH in A ball”

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 4, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roger Clemens!

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011

by heine41 on Jun 4, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What about plugging Glavine into Dempster’s spot in the rotation and moving Dempster back to closer?

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by Wreckard on Jun 4, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ROFL

by cubsnlinux on Jun 4, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not gonna happen

if they turned Wood away due to the price tag

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This would be a horrendously bad idea.

And yes, Wreckard, I know it’s not yours and you’re quoting from the original post.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 4, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would want to get fewer innings out of one of our best pitchers

Gregg’s conversion rate hasn’t been that bad, I’m not sure why people are so desperate to replace him already.

Wood had actually blown 4 saves by this time last year. So going by that metric, we’ve actually improved at closer.

by Wreckard on Jun 4, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Padilla makes about 12 million

and the Rangers are not eating it so that is a non starter
I would seriously consider Glavine if he would consider long relief and a possible staring role if it opens up
I am NOT kidding when I mentioned last night he would be a BIG asset ON THE BENCH because he knows how to
do a sacrifice bunt better than any player in the league. He can do it himself and teach the rest of everyone how to get it done.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 4, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Step back from the keyboard and repeat after me...

“The Cubs do not need another starting pitcher.”
“Randy Wells is a big league starter.”
“When Harden returns, the Cubs will have six starters, including Marshall in the pen”
“Rich Harden will not be a reliever.”

Repeat as necessary.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Give Padilla the league min

and put him in the bullpen. Can’t be any worse than what we have now.

by SoCal19 on Jun 4, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

isnt our DL List

Big enough already??

I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 4, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Neither

How does either one of these guys help us?

by Orval Overall on Jun 4, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

they don't

at all whatsoever

by cubsluver22 on Jun 4, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just say no

to Glavine because he hasn’t got anything left. Atlanta makes few mistakes about their players. I trust them when they say he’s done. Padilla has an $8M contract we’d have to pick up for a guy who has a WHIP over 1.50 the past 4 years. Texas needs SP so if they cut him, why would we add him to a team that has plenty of quality SP.

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by tharr on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Glavine

No. Hell No.

Hell to the no.

And we already have a clown in Zambrano. We don’t need another one in Padilla.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Jun 4, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Tom Glavine - Bunting Instructor

He puts down a pretty mean bunt. Perhaps he can put on a clinic for the boys. They could use the help.

If he can still pitch, than that’s gravy.

"I'm just giving the fireworks guy time to re-load".
~ Former Pitching Coach Billy Connors

by Bears31765 on Jun 4, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hey

why not the big train

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jun 4, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

At

this point you can plug in the best starters in the history of baseball. But with this defense and the offense it really does not matter,

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jun 4, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

BRIAN ROBERTS JAKE PEAVY

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 2:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Next question please.

SP is the only reason this team is above the mendoza line at this point.

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by DMCub on Jun 5, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If we were to get Padilla

We’d have to double the amount of Gatorade machines. We don’t need them (the machines) or Padilla, Glavine. Mr. Ricketts isn’t shelling out any more quarters til after the season’s over. July 31 is gonna be a bad day for us Arm-chair managers. Cringe now while we can.

"It was a wise Man that invented Beer" (Plato)

by LarryCubFan on Jun 5, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

our bullpen is horrible...

…so if Glavine would take a relief roll, then yes to Glavine

Padilla is too much of a head case. We have those already.

by Cubs and Hawks fan on Jun 5, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why would Glavine

agree to come out of the bullpen? He’s been a starter his whole career and is a finesse pitcher. He doesn’t need the money. Right now, apart from the joy of playing/competing, he probably just wants wins to enhance his career total. He won’t get those as a reliever.

by Orval Overall on Jun 5, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs