Cubs' Bradley might go on DL
Cubs' Bradley might go on DL
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well
let’s see what happens on Monday.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
and I would hope a few games in Iowa to get some good swings and rediscover his swing of yesteryear.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gee, what a surprise.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 4, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this "experiment" is over
They should just release him. Or send him to AAA. We’re not going to be able to trade him for a bag of balls. Maybe Lou learned his lesson about acquiring guys with a “questionable” past. As far as I’m concerned, I’ve washed my hands of Uncle Milton. He’s going to need to put up monstrous numbers and conduct himself like a human being for a LONG time to earn even a SHRED of my respect back. Maybe he can play for the Bush League, where he belongs.
by lswaidz on Jun 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
darn him
for getting hurt trying to play baseball. darn him to heck!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew...
It’s not just that he got hurt. He gave up on the team. His at-bats were getting better, then the team lost 8 in a row and he shut it down. He did the same thing in Texas… team started losing and he got “hurt.” He also lost out on his 3rd year option, which probably caused him to give up even more. He’s probably one of the most selfish players in the past 10 years… I’m sure the players will be happy they don’t have to deal w/ him for a few weeks.
by lswaidz on Jun 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wild speculation
And there’s zero chance of him being released or sent to AAA.
by dr stabbingworth on Jun 4, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you think Bradley
“shut it down”? I don’t. I saw him struggle through the losing streak, and get hurt legging out a grounder. It’s frustrating that he can get hurt this easily, but I’m not someone who looks at Bradley and thinks “Selfish”, not one little bit.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
it’s hard to argue that a player “shut it down” when he is sprinting down the line on a grounder to SS. He didn’t look happy about it after it happened. He angrily hobbled straight to the clubhouse.
Bradley is too much of a competitor to simply give up. He has too much pride too, and he knows his reputation is that he can’t stay healthy. If there’s one thing I wouldn’t accuse Bradley of, it’s shutting it down.
by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't question
his desire to play, or his desire to win. The guy is always hurt, there is nothing else to say about the guy. It was a bad signing, maybe 80 games this year.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry but this makes no sense
Bradley’s hitting while still poor has been getting better not worse since the losing streak. His AVG, OBP and SLG are all highe now than before the losing streak started. How did he shut it down?
Damn those facts getting in the way.
by rlpete on Jun 4, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He "shut it down"
by getting hurt while hustling to try and beat out an infield hit.
If LBR does that he’s just scrappy; if Milton does it, its more reason to hate him. As I said in another thread, people who started off disliking Milton are willing to believe the absolute worst about him.
by Orval Overall on Jun 5, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt MB is worried about your respect
Plus all these things are based on assumptions
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011
by heine41 on Jun 4, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Release him, 2 months into that contract?
I wonder why you’re not a GM somewhere.
Seriously, I understand the frustration, but that’s just not realistic. I’m sure a lot of people were unhappy with the Dawson signing early in 1987, too.
So far, Bradley stinks. His Cub career isn’t written yet, though.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would people have been unhappy with Dawson early in '87?
On April 30, 1987 he was hitting .296/.360/.605 with 6 HR and 20 RBI in 81 AB.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 4, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al, "early" can be defined arbitrarily
Go back and look up his stats before the grand slam in St. Louis. I didn’t think that the point of comparison would be an issue, so I didn’t bother. But they weren’t good.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
He had a slow start the first three weeks and then caught fire.
Bradley hasn’t had a stretch like Dawson had yet. From April 24 to May 11, 1987 — 17 games — Dawson hit .414/.447/.871 with 6 doubles, a triple, 8 HR and 22 RBI.
We’d all be very happy if Bradley could have a 17-game stretch hitting even CLOSE to that.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 4, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'd be happy if he had a month like that
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if anyone had a month like that
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be happy
if he would play 17 straight games
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be more
than Rami.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you compare
Rami and Milton? Milton has played two years over 120 games, TWO. Milton is suspended, on the DL every damn year.
Comparing him to Ramirez is a joke. Take a look at the numbers, I would take Ramirez any day of the week to Milton, not even close.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this year
look at the numbers. Rami has played in 18 games. Milton has played in 38.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodness
Marry Milton then, just get over it, propose, settle in for the rest of your life.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 5, 2009 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dood.
Seriously?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and another thing
9 years Rami has played 130 games or more, Milton has one year of 130 games or more, he had 126 last year.
You love the guy thats great, but can he find the field once in a while.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happy if he could even PLAY is 17 games.
by Cubs and Hawks fan on Jun 5, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
38 on the season so far.
so, you should be happy!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to stand up for my opinion here
Normally I’d apologize for speaking up like I did, but I’m sick and tired of this guy and his antics. Yes, he’s two months into his contract – and so what? He should either go to the DL, or play through it. This “oh I got an owie and now I’m going to sit for 2 weeks, eating up bench space” has got to stop. Bradley has tied Lou’s hands, and the problem needs to be resolved one way or another. A DL stint to heal and a week at AAA would certainly help, let him slowly get back to game speed before sticking him in there and letting him hurt himself. Meanwhile, we can have a productive addition to the team taking his roster spot.
Also, when I talked about him “shutting it down” I was more talking about what he did last year with Texas… I’ve seen him hustle for the Cubs… twice. Both times he was injured. That has to be a major mental set back for a guy… if you continually hurt yourself when you went 100%, what motivation would you have to do it again?
Look, I just don’t see how this relationship will be successful… Milton has too much baggage, and not enough skill and/or durability right now. I hope he proves me wrong, but I’m standing by this one… sorry guys.
by lswaidz on Jun 4, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No one is questioning your frustration
But to think there’s even a remote possibility he’d be released is absurd.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Released may have been strong
But he needs a kick in the ass, and a week at AAA might do the job nicely.
by lswaidz on Jun 4, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!
by cubsluver22 on Jun 4, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley is like a rorsharch test for bad fans
You’re seeing what you want to see. His “antics” have consisted of, what exact? One throwaway comment about the umps and an ejection?
The notion that he doesn’t hustle is ludicrous. He’s had a couple of bunt singles in games where we were down by a few runs because people just needed to get on base. People swooned when Fukudome did that stuff last year. I’ve been to a half dozen games and he runs hard on every grounder, and has shown good hustle in the outfield.
by Wreckard on Jun 5, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course, this is really discouraging..but let's get him healthy.
I for one felt good about the signing, and also feel good about MB’s skills, though I realize they took a risk given his injury history. That said, I think he’s been playing hurt all year (as have Lee and Sori) and in his case it’s hurting his performance and hurting the team. I maintain that wins in September and October (and November this year) are where it’s at, and am certain MB can help us then. I don’t care if we win 117 games – if we then fail in the post-season I think we haven’t hit the goal that everyone has.
Let’s forget all his promises about playing time, DL him fro 15 days, and focus on getting him playing at 100%, which we have not yet seen this year.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 4, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is there ALWAYS drama on this guy's status on the roster
He sat useless on the Cub bench for nearly 3 weeks instead of going on the DL. Then there was him appealing his suspension even though he was activated yet already sitting useless on the bench with injury. Now we go through yet another back and forth saga of is he going on the DL or is he not going on the DL? WTF. I’m getting a little bit disgusted of the kid gloves Lou Piniella and the organization are having in this Milton Bradley affair. If he can’t play then put him on the friggin disabled list and be done with it. It’s ridiculous is what it is.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 4, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can say almost
EXACTLY the same thing about Ramirez.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who, by the way
has played in HALF the games Bradley has.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The argument isn't just that Bradley is hurt a lot...
it’s that he’s hurting the team by wasting a roster spot with indecision about the DL.
Ramirez has played half as much as Bradley, but he’s been on the DL almost all of the time he’s missed. Bradley sat around for the entirety of a DL stint without going on the DL. Now, there’s a delay again.
by SouthernCub on Jun 4, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the games Lee and Soto
missed with injuries but not on the DL. It is not MB only who has done that this season
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rami
spent time not on the DL, but not playing.
They’re waiting till Monday. It’s not like MB is keeping them from doing it. The team decides.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's insane ....
We have operated with a defacto 24 man roster for two dozen or so games because it can’t be determined how friggin hurt Milton Bradley is !!! Lou needs to pull his head out of his ass in this matter. It’s not up to Bradley to say he doesn’t need to go on the DL.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought 24 man cuz of Patton
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the team
decides to let him, then it is.
Notice how none of us are accusing you of being a woman simply because you disagree with something Lou does?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
Ramirez went on the DL immediately
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasn't been on the DL
for 32 games IIRC. I do not recall off hand if he missed any sore or not earlier
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was injured
early in the season, and sat on the bench, like Lee, Soto and Bradley.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not for the better part of two weeks
However, that is the fault of management, not the player
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 4, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely, it is the fault of management.
but Bradley gets blamed for it, while Soto, Lee and Rami don’t.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
it ranks up there with Patton being on the roster and not being used, but people state we have a 24 man roster because of MB……
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is this a surprise
Jeez look at the back of his bubble gum card, HE gets hurt all the time. Stop the freaking press.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s also a difference.
Ramirez arm almost fell off. It was pretty obvious he needed to go on the DL immediately when he went on the DL a few weeks ago.
Injuries like this can seem like they are going to be better in a couple of days and then you have a setback. It’s very frustrating/
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this just in Milton Bradley MIGHT
not go on DL
or maybe he will
no…wait… maybe he won’t
alright we’ll just wait and see
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like the Score breaking in the other day to say there would be news on Zs suspension either later that day or the next day.
I’’m glad they did because I was expecting we’d hear it at halftime of a Bears game in December.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 4, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT A DRAMA QUEEN
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 4, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get Jim Edmonds on the phone
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Jun 4, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MILTON BRADLEY = ROYAL JERKOFF
ALL STUPID CUB FANS, AND MANY THERE ARE, ALL OPEN YOUR EYES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THIS GUY IS AND WAS A AMERICAN LEAGUE D.H., NOT A EVERYDAY DAY OUTFIELDER THAT IS GOING TO STAY HEALTHY. LOOK AT THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO, THE D.L. TRIPS, ETC, AFTER THAT THEN LOOK AT THE REST OF HIS MENTAL BAGGAGE AND ATTITUDE SHIT, THEN START YOUR DENIAL CRAP, THIS GUY IS NUMERO UNO SELFISH
by slapshot53 on Jun 5, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Oh, well, when you put it like that, I guess I was wrong.
Thank you. The all caps, and calling me stupid, really helped make your argument persuasive.
by Orval Overall on Jun 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First comment made on this site, too.
Let’s see: all caps, which is rude, insulted Cub fans in his first four words, and used profanity.
Yep, hit all the high points.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 5, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should we rec this one
and make it green
SARCASM
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd suggest some other color.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 5, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOUD NOISES!
you talk to your mother with that capslock key?
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was never a fan of the Bradley signing, but as a Cubs fan, I obviously
want to see him succeed. I know it’s still early and MB can still turn it around, but damn, the man gets hurt hustling down first base.
Maybe he should get an MRI on that hammy. Maybe surgery is in order. Strengthen it up.
by Cubs and Hawks fan on Jun 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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