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Cubs Draft Preview--AJ Pollock

The Major League Baseball 2009 Amateur Draft starts this coming Tuesday.  The draft is a crucial part of building a winning ball club, but more than any other sport, it's difficult to project which amateur players are going to be stars.  On average, only about half of the first round picks ever get more than a cup of coffee in the major leagues, and even fewer become starters.  No player ever taken with the first pick in the draft has ever made the Hall of Fame, although I'm sure Ken Griffey Jr. will change that soon.

This year's draft is especially difficult to predict.  After the überprospect,  San Diego State right-hander Stephen Strasburg, the rest of the available amateur talent doesn't stand out a lot from each other.  Scouts are saying it is difficult to tell the difference in talent level between the projected second pick in the draft and the guys projected to go in the mid to late first round.  The talent level in the projected third round isn't significantly less than the talent level projected to go in the late first. It's wrong to say that this is a weak draft, because there is a lot of talent out there. It's a deep draft with few standouts beyond Strasburg.

As the minor league coordinator here at Bleed Cubbie Blue, it's my job to give you a preview of the draft.  The only problem is that between watching the Cubs, my minor league coverage and my family, I really haven't had the chance to get really familiar with the talent available. And of course, this just happens to be one of the toughest drafts ever to predict, and the Cubs don't pick until #31.

So what do you do when you have a tough job and you don't know how you're going to get it done? You get someone else to do it, of course.  And we here at BCB are lucky enough to have some smart members.  So I'm handing off the previews of the minor league draft to Matt Marsden, who is also known as MJMars around here. He's going to be doing a series of previews of players that we feel the Cubs could take in next week's draft, as well as a draft recap.

One thing that Mark and I agree on is that the Cubs have two players in their sights, and if either one of those players are available at #31, one of them will be the pick.  He's going to preview them today and tomorrow.

The first player is Notre Dame outfielder AJ Pollock. The Cubs have a history of picking Notre Dame players, the Cubs could use some more athletic center fielders in the system and Pollock is projected to go somewhere in the late first round.  Now he may not last that far (I've also seen two mock drafts listing the Diamondbacks grabbing him at #16) but if he makes it past the Diamondbacks at #16, then he could very well fall to us at #31. If you click on the link above, you can go to the MLB.com page with another scouting report on Pollock and some video of him hitting.

So I'm just going to shut up for now and let Matt Marsden aka MJMars take it away for here.  He'll also be back tomorrow with a report on the other player we think the Cubs are interested in.

Star-divide

The draft is less than a week away (Tuesday, June 9th 5 PM CDT on the MLB Network) and the Cubs first pick at #31 overall. As of now, there appears to be a good chance the Cubs will take Notre Dame center-fielder A.J. Pollock. Both Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus and Jim Callis of Baseball America have pegged the Cubs to take Pollock.

Jim Hendry has shown some affinity for Notre Dame players in the past, drafting RHP Grant Johnson with the teams first pick (2nd round) in the 2004 draft and then taking Jeff Samardzija in the 5th round of the 2006 draft. Aaron Heilman also played ball at Notre Dame and we are all aware Hendry had been after him for some time. Hendry's prior history with ND players, coupled with Scouting Director, Tim Wilken’s typical liking of high contact hitters makes Pollock a very good and likely fit for the Cubs.

Pollock is a right-handed handed hitting, center-fielder. He projects to stay in center in pro ball. Do not expect any gold-gloves from him, but Pollock has the range and arm to be a good defender. Pollock is a very polished hitter and makes a ton of contact. On the season, Pollock has struck out a mere 24 times in 241 at-bats (10% K-rate). On top of that, Pollock is a disciplined hitter, having walked 30 times on the season and has a .443 OBP. He has spent the season as the Irish lead-off hitter and projects as that type of hitter in the bigs. Though he is not a burner, Pollock has decent speed and very good instincts, allowing him to be a legitimate threat on the base paths (21 steals in 25 attempts this year) and allowing him to get good jumps on fly balls in center.

Dominating Big East pitching is nothing new to Pollock this season. His freshman year, Pollock led the Irish with a .372 AVG along with a .464 OBP and .474 SLG. Sophomore year was almost as impressive, with a .352 AVG, .414 OBP, to go along with 28 stolen bases. He only struck out 10 times the entire 2008 season (once every 21 at-bats).

What may be more impressive than Pollock's success against Big East pitching the past three seasons was his performance in the Cape Cod League last summer. The Cape Cod League is a wood bat league and widely considered to be the best summer baseball league in baseball, where some of the top college talents face each other. There were 11 players taken in the first round of the 2008 draft that played in the Cape the summer prior. Pollock was the MVP of the Cape last summer, putting up a .377/.455/.556. Though he was the MVP (Mike Fontenot and Matt Murton former Cape MVP's as well), he was not the top prospect in the Cape (projected 1st rounder’s Grant Green and Dustin Ackley were 1-2 respectively) and Baseball America ranked him number 7.

There have been many questions surrounding Pollock's power potential in the past. Many felt he would not project to hit for enough home runs to justify drafting in the first round. This was certainly a legitimate concern as Pollock only hit 3 home runs and 7 double his freshman season and having just 4 HR's his sophomore year. Putting up a .556 slugging percentage (best mark in the Cape last year) with a wood bat will do a lot to alleviate those concerns. Pollock has built on his success from last summer and hit 10 HR's along with 19 doubles and 5 triples this season, to give him a slugging percentage of .610. Jim Callis of Baseball America recently projected Pollock as a hitter that can hit 30 doubles and 15 home runs a season.

I see a lot of Matt Murton when I think about Pollock. Both were polished right-handed hitting outfielders and both were Cape Cod League MVP's. They are both contact-oriented hitters with advanced approaches at the plate and respectable power. The biggest difference between the two is athleticism. Pollock is definitely the better athlete and because of that and a good arm, will be able to stick in center. Despite mixed results from Murton at the big league level, he has a career OPS of .793 which is close to league average for left-fielders, but a .793 OPS for a center-fielder is well above-average. Pollock should be considered the better prospect given the likelihood he is a center-fielder in the bigs.

Hopefully Pollock will be around at #31 when the Cubs pick. His power has been very impressive this season and Pollock has certainly moved up draft boards this spring. I believe this would be a very fine pick for the Cubs, given his polish, strong approach and athleticism.

This is Josh again.  I just want to say something about Mark's Matt Murton comparison.  I think Pollock is reminiscent of Murton at the plate, not on the basepaths or in the field.  One of the problems with Murton is that he doesn't have the power or the speed that you want out of a starting left fielder, but Murton's defense couldn't play in center.  Pollock has both the defense to play center field and the speed to bat leadoff, which makes him potentially a lot more valuable than Murton.

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Thanks for posting this

And the Murton plus Legs sounds alright to me. Especially if you consider Murton’s .287/.354 /.439 career line. Even average defense and base running out of a center fielder with that slash line would be valuable.

by Harry Pavlidis on Jun 4, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Forget this guy

He does a lot of things ok but nothing great, they are comparing to Matt Murton for God’s sake!! Sounds like a career utility guy to me. Pass! All the ND guys he listed are either minor leaguers or major league crapbags. Draft someone with more upside than being another Matt Murton, please!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 4, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

And what would you suggest

at #31? Potential superstars don’t often last that far in the draft.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this Renfroe kid from Miss.

It all depends on how far guys fall. If Purke is there, we better take him regardless of the $$. I hope Pollock is gone before Hendry can screw up another draft.

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 4, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no way

the Cubs take Purke with the current ownership situation. They won’t get the permission to spend the money. It’s extremely unlikely that he gets past the Yankees at #29 anyway.

Renfroe is likely to be available, but I haven’t seen anyone listing him as a first rounder.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murton great no

sound fundamentally yes. If he was better in the OF defensively he would likely have been given more AB’s and might still be in a Cubs uniform. Lets not forget Murton led the team in OBP in 2006 (unless you count Barrett who had 100 less ABs and was 0.003 higher than Murton, or Lee/Riot who together had about 60% the ABs of Murton that season).

Again is Murton a Lilly or deserving of a statue, well no, but he was not a horrible player.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean

like with Cashman?

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take Pollock, thank you

With a line anywhere near close to Murton’s as a CF, that would be above league average. Although if a talent like Purke fell to us, I don’t think any team would pass on him around pick 31. Not likely though. BA has him as a top 20 guy.

churchofbaseball.com

by WorkJM on Jun 4, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

One thing about the Cubs-Notre Dame Connection

Paul Mainieri has been at LSU now for 3 seasons and he was the Cubs connection at Notre Dame.

I’m hoping someone falls to the Cubs because I’m not necessarily that enamored with Pollock and I definitley don’t like Brett Jackson.

by Raisin on Jun 4, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

We're not

all that high on Jackson either. But he’s a possibility.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.....

really hoping for just about anyone BUT Jackson

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

he looks like he could be a nice pick up

late in the draft. I like the BB and K rates. But he would have to wait a decade before he can lead off, so does that mean he would push Theriot and Fukudome down in the line up?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I would imagine

that Theriot and Fukudome will be gone by the time he reaches the majors. Soriano will still be here, obviously, but maybe he’ll have changed his mind on leading off by then.

Otherwise, batting him second would work too.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

so he is a project coming out of college?

Since i see Theriot and Fukudome around a while still

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see

either of them here in 2012, which is probably when Pollock would be ready to start for the Cubs. He could make it up as soon as 2011, I guess. He could bat seventh or eighth then.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity, who do you see playing 2B?

I assume that is where Theriot moves as the shortstops in our system are promoted. Or do you see the Cubs as unwilling to sign Theriot when he becomes a free agent?

by dr stabbingworth on Jun 4, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You talking about 2012?

I’d hope it would be Tony Thomas or Ryan Flaherty, but it certainly could be a trade or a free agent.

I just see a 32 year old Ryan Theriot as a utility player more than a starter.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

FYI

I have heard via Deep Goat that the Cubs are not that interested in Pollock. But we’ll find out next week.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

That could be

But there are “experts” linking the Cubs to Pollock. But they could just be guessing too. This draft is the hardest to predict in years.

Of course, Pollock could go 15 picks before we pick and we’ll never know.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Pollock doesn't go before pick #31...

… and the Cubs then pass on him, remember where you heard this.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will

unless the other guy that we think the Cubs want is the pick.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball America

Said they were hot after him. Very difficult to know for sure though.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

A question for those who know the draft.

Should the Nationals sign Strasburg and send him straight to the major league rotation? Discuss.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Al, they can sign one of us off BCB

and that might improve their teams success, so its not a fair debate

SARCASM

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't be the worst idea in the world

Although the only thing that will come of it is ticket sales. As long as the limit his innings, why not.

by WorkJM on Jun 4, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

because they need to limit the number of innings he throws this season. If they did, it would just be like David Clyde—just to sell tickets. I’m not saying Strasburg would end up like Clyde, who was a high school player and much more abused than Strasburg ever has been, but the only point to it would be to sell tickets.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which, of course, they need to do.

I’d do it, while limiting his innings. Maybe just start him in home games. But they need some positive buzz. This would do it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't that burn an option and start the clock on free agency?

I guess that may not be a consideration now, but it could hurt them later.

by dr stabbingworth on Jun 4, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus could destroy the confidence of a pitcher

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 4, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if it's agreed upon ahead of time.

As far as the free agency clock is concerned, I assume that regardless of whether he starts in the majors or not, he would wind up signing a major-league contract for a term of five or six years.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strasburg

Bringing him up to the majors would start his arb clock, but he’s going to sign a long-term major league contract right out of the draft so that is not really a concern because he’ll be under contract anyway.

I think just signing the major league contract starts the FA clock, but I’d have to check on that.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Earliest he would ever be called up is June 2010

A. Limit innings
B. Delay the service time clock as much as responsibly proper

Those of you who are old enough will remember the name of David Clyde. And Todd Van Poppel. And Mike Morgan. Be very careful with young “can’t miss” super duper pitching prospects.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 4, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or just cryogenically freeze him

until the Nationals begins to become competitive again. That way he won’t have to waste his arm.

by WorkJM on Jun 4, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Calling Buck Rogers.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then Ted WIlliams

could manage in Washington again.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

No reason to waste innings in the minors

He is ready and since he will sign a big league contract, I don’t think they will have to worry about arbitration at all. A pitcher only has so many pitches in his arm, why waste any in the minors, where we all know he will dominate?

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Josh and Mark!

One minor suggestion: perhaps you could put more of tomorrow’s post after the jump, so it doesn’t take up so much of the front page.

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by cubzfan on Jun 4, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I fixed the post to accomplish that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I should have done that. Didn’t realize how much space it took up,

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for Tim Wilkens to screw up yet another draft

I’ve done some digging into Wilkens and the story goes they could not wait to get rid of him in Toronto. He did a generally terrible job with the Blue Jays. And I have to tell you I am wholly unimpressed with his first three draft classes with the Cubs. Jeff Samardizija is an overhyped middle reliever type, Tyler Colvin is a bust, Tony Thomas is nothign special, etc..

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 4, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Why are people publicly wishing ill on this poor kid, speculating on whether he’ll be the Cubs #1 pick? That’s about the worst thing that could happen to him. What’s next, are people going to be guessing which prospects are going to be audited by the IRS?

by Jody Jody Davis on Jun 4, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

huh?

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how long Wilkens was at Toronto

However, Veron Wells, Aaron Hill, Alex Rios, Micheal Young, Halladay, Lind to name a few.
 But I do agree, he has been horrible with the Cubs. Amazing he has a job. Cubs have no one at AAA or AA that could help the Big Club right now.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wilken

was involved in drafting all those players

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Wilken was also run out of Toronto

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was?

I thought he was coveted by a number of teams and left on his own.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Jun 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he wasn't

He resigned from Toronto in 2003 because of what he said was “philosophical differences with upper management” meaning JP Riccardi, I assume. Lots of people have had differences with Riccardi.

It’s possible he resigned under threat of being fired, but the fact that Tampa Bay hired him immediately afterwards indicates that he didn’t have a bad rep when leaving.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he was, that was dumb by Toronto

He was considered one of the best Scouting Director’s in the game.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wilken hasn't been that bad

Vitters has been excellent and he has done some decent things with guys int he later rounds, specifically Jay Jackson. Not to mention the Cubs have made a big impact on the Pacific Rim and Dae-Eun Rhee looked great before TJ. He has also signed a lot of short-stops like Junior Lake, Starlin Castro and Hak-Ju-Lee who have some good upside also.

Shark being overhyped was because he played football. Everyone knew he has a first-round arm, but not polish.

If you want to blame anyone, blame Oneri Fleita for not successfully developing these guys

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats all fine.

A lot of prospects look good in Peoria, Daytona, and Arizona. I mean the list goes on, Patterson, Harvey , Pie, Dubois, and so on. They need to produce in Chicago.
 I agree with your point about Oneri Fieita, he needs to be held more accountable.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

If Bryce Harper does somehow get his GED and goes in the 2010 draft, however unlikely that may be, talk about an influx of talent for the Nationals…

by WorkJM on Jun 4, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

This is really weird

Last week I was looking at the draft and I saw this kid, decided to read into him and was like I bet the Cubs take this kid. Now the probably will… I’m freakin’ out man!

Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!

by Cub Style on Jun 4, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

The Cubs have done so poorly in the draft

It is tough getting exicited about it.
 Think about it, two offensive players in the last 20 years, Palmerio and Grace, that have had good solid careers. There has been no one else. Where are the stars? Jeez can we just get lucky with one or two players every 5 years maybe? The Cubs have been horrendous, I would rate them near the bottom.
 I did some research only the Giants have drafted as poorly when it comes to offensive players in the last 20 years.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Which is why Pollock may be good for them

He is very polished, so there isn’t a lot Fleita can screw up.

Have to mention Geo too, since he was rookie of the year.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets see how Soto

does in the next three years, then we will see. He is looking like Jerome Walton right now.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

*shudder*

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Jun 8, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strasburg

I’d do it, while limiting his innings. Maybe just start him in home games. But they need some positive buzz. This would do it.

Al, I don’t think the Nationals are that smart. And, I haven’t seen any discussions about if the Nats can even sign Strasburg. I think he is represented by Boras, so we are talking relative value for a #1 plus a pig that s**** gold. As the intro stated very well the MLB draft is a gigantic craps shoot. Relative to any other pro sport I think the MLB draft produces the least talent at the highest rounds.
Given all that, if the Nats draft him, and can sign him, I say play him right away. That team isn’t going anywhere. And, since they’ll be paying him big money right away at least try and get a boost in ticket sales on home games he starts.

by Nibbles on Jun 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Big East baseball

is essentially lower level. ND had a team ERA of around 6.00 both for and against them. So a .350 BA isn’t exceptional. WV had a team BA of .360 and a team OPS of 1.007. That makes Pollock’s numbers less impressive. Getting a ND grad may seem a popular pick but it’s hardly a heads up decision for the Cubs.

I don’t know who is out there but I’d love to see Wilken got after a switch hitter with speed who makes contact. We really are in need of quality leadoff man who puts pressure on our opponents in the 1st inning. Pollock at best appears to be a Gaithright without the speed.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 4, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Where are you getting that?

I’m going to admit that Pollock isn’t going to be Carlos Beltran out there, but to say he’s “Gathright without speed” is ridiculous.

If so, how do you account for his showing in the Cape Cod League?

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I look at

his numbers and don’t see a major league starter. His power seems low for the competition he has faced. As for 1 summer in Cape Cod, so what? I’d prefer to look at his history with ND and, while nice, he is not a guy I’d spend a #1 pick on. In this draft I look for need, not adequate utility players.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 4, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

So you'd rather

see how he hit with aluminum bats than a wooden bat?

Kind of reminds me of the criticism of Josh Vitters in that he only hit .390 his senior season in high school and how a guy who’s the #3 pick in the draft ought to hit more than .390 in high school. I’m not saying you should discount amateur stats, but I sure wouldn’t analyze them like major or minor league stats.

I can understand the criticism of the player, but I really have to ask what else you think is going to be available at #31 in an odd draft. I know everyone says “Get the guy who slides down because of money” but that just isn’t going to happen. Even without the Cubs ownership situation that would probably prevent such a move, the Yankees are sitting at #29 to grab any such slider.

There simply isn’t a potential superstar at #31. And as far as addressing a need, as I said earlier, center fielders and leadoff hitters are major needs in the organization right now.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josh, relax

It’s just my opinion that Pollock isn’t worthy of a #1 pick. And I’m hesitant to put 150 AB in a summer league over 3 seasons of collegiate ball. Baseball America ranks him at #39 so it’s not like he’s an obvious choice at our #31 pick. My point is I’d prefer taking a risk on hitting a high upside player than going the safe route where it appears we’d end up with a bench player at best. And while you suggest there isn’t a potential superstar at #31, I disagree. Most won’t achieve that level, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have the potential to become All Stars.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 4, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do I need to relax?

I’m just trying to get your reasoning other than “I don’t like him.”

What you’re saying is that you want a high upside/high risk player. That’s fine. Then maybe Brett Jackson is more your style, who would be available. But I can hear the howls if we take him already.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 4, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I was clear

Pollock’s numbers in the BE don’t indicate he’ll be anything other than a bench player at best. I feel a 1st round pick should be used to choose a starter. And, while I know there are no guarantees, I’d be willing to risk on a toolsier guy with what appears to be a higher upside than Pollock will provide. Preferably I’d look for a switch hitter with speed to move into the leadoff spot.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 5, 2009 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is so much more to it than the numbers

It really is about the tool he has and how they are expected to play at the professional level and Pollock’s tools are good enough. He has great bat control and BA ranked him the no. 2 best pure hitter among college bats.

You want to bash the Big East, fine. It is not the premier baseball conference, but is better than you are giving it credit for. But then you cannot ignore his play against some of the best college competition in the Cape simply because it does not bode well for your argument. The talent he faces is excellent and he did it using a wood bat, which sure sounds a lot more similar to what he will be doing in pro ball.

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by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'm not convinced

that 150 AB in Cape Cod make him worthy of a #1 round. To me he’s a marginally decent prospect with limited upside. I prefer a higher upside player. You suggest it isn’t about the numbers, but I disagree. Let’s forget about ND baseball and grab a player that has proven himself against high level pitchers.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 4, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not saying its not about the numbers

I actually probably look at the college numbers more than I should. Simply saying there is more to it than that. And the numbersa are giving you credit for.

Can’t blame you for wanting a high upside player, but Pollock does have some considerable upside and his upside, coupled with his polish is a rare thing for a center-fielder.

Do not fall in to the common misconception that high school players have higher upside than college players. They are simply more raw and have more projectability remaining, but not necessarily better upside.

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by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with

you on HS players. With Vitters being the exception to the rules, I’d only draft a HS player in an early round if he was a pitcher. The jump from HS to college for a hitter is huge. OTOH, since I haven’t seen Pollock play, I can only surmise his future. As such, I don’t envision him starting for the Cubs. Since I am willing to gamble, I’d prefer a riskier player with a higher upside as my choice. In the end, I’m willing to trust Wilken in the end.

BTW, have you noticed any switch hitting toolsy players mentioned that might fall to us? And thanks to you and Josh for your input on the draft. It’s greatly appreciated.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 4, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Bobby Borchering

is the first switch hitting name that comes to mind. He is a high school bat, likely to be a 1b, really good power from both sides, but will almost certainly go in the mid-first round, probably to the DBacks.

thanks for the kind words!

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by MJMars on Jun 4, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are people's thoughts on Tanner Scheppers

Sounds like he might fall despite being healthy again. I don’t see the Cubs dropping the money for a guy like Tate who is falling (and with questions about plate discipline, etc., it might be wise to let the Cubs avoid him since their coaches might not be the best to fix those types of problems).

by Raisin on Jun 5, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Electric stuff

but the arm issues really concern me and he does not do a great job throwing strikes. Overall, not very impressed with Scheppers.

There are some questions about Tate. He may actually want to go play football at UNC, but I still think the Padres end up taking him, even though I would take Matzek or Gibson. I’m actually more of a believer in Tate’s bat than most.

Neither of them will fall all the way to the Cubs.

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by MJMars on Jun 5, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

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