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Which Zambrano Do We Get Tonight, Take Two: Cubs vs. Reds, Friday 6/5, 6:10 CT

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The rainout last night readjusts the rotation:

Carlos Zambrano will start on Friday night at Cincinnati in the opener of a three-game series, and Ryan Dempster will be pushed back to Saturday.

Sean Marshall, who had been scheduled to pitch on Saturday, will go to the bullpen, and Randy Wells will start on Sunday as scheduled.

I've been an advocate of keeping Marshall in the rotation, though I know someone will have to go when Rich Harden comes back. However, right now with the pen in turmoil, maybe having someone like Marshall there will help stabilize it. Marshall will still likely have to make a start or two during the 23-consecutive-day stretch forced by last night's rainout. In this way, maybe he could become what Terry Mulholland was to the 1998 Cubs, a guy who could switch back and forth between the bullpen and starting and be valuable in both roles.

Speaking of Harden, he will have a rehab start at Iowa on Sunday and if all goes well he'll return to the rotation next Friday vs. the Twins at Wrigley Field. That Bruce Miles article also has encouraging news about Aramis Ramirez:

Third baseman Aramis Ramirez, who may be out for at least another month with a dislocated left shoulder, reportedly will begin "baseball activities" this weekend in Cincinnati. Ramirez hurt himself diving for a groundball in Milwaukee on May 8.

So, everything appears on schedule for A-Ram, who was hurt four weeks ago and is with the team in Cincinnati tonight. This should still keep him on target for a return after the All-Star break.

Lineup for tonight via Twittermyer:

Soriano, lf; Theriot, ss; Fukudome, cf; Lee, 1B; Hoffpauir, rf; Fontenot, 3B; Hill, c; Blanco, 2b; Zambrano, p

Can you stand a little more Mark DeRosa talk? No, this isn't about reacquiring him, though the question is asked in Nick Friedell's interview with DeRo.

And, Geovany Soto is getting a "mental break". Geo and Lou had a meeting yesterday:
Soto met with Piniella for nearly 20 minutes before batting practice on Thursday. The closed-door talk included a little hitting demonstration, with the manager leaving his office briefly to get a bat.

That provoked Z into yelling out into the clubhouse that Lou was going to "hit" Soto and there would be "big news in the paper tomorrow!" It was just a hitting demonstration:

"We were talking to Geo a little bit about using his front arm a little more, as opposed to being so back-sided," Piniella said.
Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
Carlos Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Micah Owings
Micah Owings
Reds
3-2 W-L 3-6
4.22 ERA 5.10
46 SO 35
21 BB 27
4 HR 7
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs

The Cubs actually catch a break with the rainout, despite now having to play on 23 straight days; they miss seeing Jair Jurrjens, a tough pitcher, and can instead face Micah Owings, a guy they beat handily at Wrigley Field on April 21. That day featured the first-ever homer by a Micah off a Micah, as Hoffpauir went deep on Owings; he gets the start tonight in RF. Oddly, the only other Cub to have homered off Owings is Aaron Miles, who is on the DL and won't play tonight. Owings has walked a lot of hitters this year (27 in 54.2 innings), so waiting him out seems the thing to do.

Z also catches a break; his lifetime record vs. the Braves is poor, but against the Reds he's 14-10, 3.05 lifetime. The Reds did beat him on April 23 at Wrigley Field, but the 7-1 score of that game is misleading; Z left when the Cubs trailed only 3-1 and the bullpen made it worse. With Joey Votto (8-for-20 vs. Z) on the DL, none of the other current Reds really hit him well.

Tonight's game is on cable only in the Chicago and Cincinnati areas. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Overflow comment threads will post today at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CDT.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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My first Cubs game in a few days!

Glad I missed the bad ones….

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 5, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

outstanding!

have a great time

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 5, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Micah Owings

LIGHT ’EM UP!

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 5, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As you wish...

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a ridiculous stat-based lunatic question

what is the cubs all-time record versus pitchers who the cubs drafted, but didn’t sign with the cubs?

by tim815 on Jun 5, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

False?

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Cubbies!!

I sit at home after the Cubs lose and wanna pound sand but I know I live in a state without that kinda land. I know in my heart Sori isn't a guess hitting hack and that Dero will never be back. Pitching is King, some do say and hopefully Aaron Miles doesn't play in a Cub uniform another day. By October this I know, to the playoffs we are for sure to go. Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 5, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5th

I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking for the Cubs to shell Owings tonight.

"Live and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day comes when God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these words: wait and hope!" - The Count of Monte Cristo

by Bricks and Ivy on Jun 5, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you would shell 'casings'

you would…..hmmmmm….what would you do with owing?

by tim815 on Jun 5, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please win

with the Cards and Brewers trading losses all week we need to up the ante against the Reds and jump over them in the standings. Every day we stay close is another day closer until we are healthy.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Jun 5, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only 2 back in the loss column...

Behind STL and MIL. A series win here would be nice.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Jun 5, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And GO BRAVES GO this weekend.

Tommy Hanson makes his ML debut vs. Milwaukee tomorrow.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jair jurrgens

clap-clap-clap/clap/clap

by tim815 on Jun 5, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really know nothing of this Tommy Hanson guy.

Never actually heard of him before this week, frankly.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently

he’s some sort of uber prospect.

i’d never heard of him before a few weeks ago.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not quite that high

the uber prospect title is owned by Stephen Strasburg.

Hanson is going to be good though. 4 pitches that are above-average and solid command. He does short-arm the ball though. Could lead to some injuries, but until then, he should be awesome.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 5, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently he has two brothers...

…and the three of them sing together wonderfully.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the same Z we always get:

a passionate, highly-skilled and flawed human being who will do almost anything he can to win a ball game.

That’s what Zambranos do best. HOO-HOO-HOO-HOOOOOO!

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought they cleaned the ice during a hockey game.

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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no no no

they blend into the herd well.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

certainly one of the best 'hitting pitchers' matchups of the year

Not many pitchers used as pinch hitters like Z and Owings are

by BeltwayCubsFan on Jun 5, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alas Owings is a better hitter than Z

I worry that everyone seems overconfident about beating him. Here’s hoping.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 5, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope we get the

Z that brings his “A” game. Leave the theatrics in the clubhouse.

by sue369 on Jun 5, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

See Sue,

Lou agrees with you that Soto is too back sided these days. :)

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jun 5, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looks like one of those rap guys' girlfriends.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can’t deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
‘Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she’s wearing
I’m hooked and I can’t stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o’-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
‘Cause you ain’t that average groupie
I’ve seen them dancin’
To hell with romancin’
She’s sweat, wet,
Got it goin’ like a turbo ‘Vette
I’m tired of magazines
Sayin’ flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell ’em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope you copy/pasted that

if you typed that from memory any respect for you just evaporated.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the contrary...

…my respect for Drew would triple if he could do that from memory.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what's three times

a very small amount, class? :P :P :P

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+9x

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have

an encyclopedic memory, but no, I don’t know past the eighth line there.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just lookin' for a nice place to rest a drink...

and that shelf will do.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Jun 5, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twittermyer says...

… makeup game for last night to be played at 6:10 pm CDT on June 22.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano, lf; Theriot, ss; Fukudome, rf; Lee, 1B; Hoffpauir, rf; Fontenot, 3B; Hill, c; Blanco, 2b; Zambrano, p

I assume the lineup is correct except that dome will be playing cf?

the pink hat guy is my father

by joeschmitt on Jun 5, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Mistyped. Dome in CF. I’ll fix it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope....

dome has to play right to cover the ground that Hoff can’t….. :P

by tootle on Jun 5, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hella bored

Please somebody direct me towards something fun on the Internet or something. Thank you kindly.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 5, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I got nuthin' for ya

I’m just hoping for baseball tonight… rain outs suck.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found some really salacious photos of Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi

and his naughty entourage. If I owned Italy, I’d do the same. Good for him.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://tinyurl.com/lxz92a

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very clever

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 5, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could check out the stats for my favorite player of the moment...

at baseball-reference.com.

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

by AndrewJStone on Jun 5, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't very good

but that matters very little. (oh I’m so punny…)

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 5, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just Google a vaguely dirty-sounding word.

Or a not-so-vaguely sounding one.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're at work

I’d advise against that one

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true.

Or at least don’t actually click on any of the results.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you're really bored

see my useless question near the top
regarding cubs record against….
above

by tim815 on Jun 5, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lotso Good links and info in this preview Al..

Thanks again for a job well done. By the way, I’ve been meaning to ask, is this a paid gig for you, a volunteer gig, or somewhere in between? You do a bang-up job.

by DisCUBbobulated on Jun 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the compliment.

This is a labor of love. Yes, I do make a small amount of money, not nearly enough to quit my day job.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

With Votto out of the lineup...

…and Evil Micah on the mound for the Reds, this game feels winnable. I hope I don’t regret typing that. The Cubs and Reds are currently tied in the loss column, so the Cubs could lay claim to the glory that is third place with a strong series in Cincy.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Votto has been a Cub-killer since he came to the major leagues.

I cannot say I am unhappy that he’s on the DL.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like we'll also miss...

…Harang and Cueto. I could really use a road series win against a divisional opponent.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another

Micah vs Micah moment coming up. Several, probably.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or, hopefully, not...

… after the Cubs knock Owings out in the third inning.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta give the Hoff

at least two chances at him.


The Hoff demands it.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate games that feel "winnable"

Esp against not very good pitchers.

This team seems to hate those.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly.

That game against Kawakami seemed imminently winnable, too – even before the Cubs staked Randy Wells to a 5-0 lead. But…but…I’m over it, really. It’s ancient history. Not still on my mind at all.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Jun 5, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it'd been just that

game… I’d get over it.

But I can think of at least 4 off the top of my head that have felt like “we should win this one just on talent”… only to score 1 run and look like idiots.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's always games like that

I can think of games from last year that did the same thing.

I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 5, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like, for example, the two in Pittsburgh in late May.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

The Sun >>>>>>>> The Fonz

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011

by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was a Saturday game in there that went into extra innings

if I’m not mistaken, and that because Woody blew the save. They ended up losing that in the 11th I think.

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw THE HANGOVER @ midnight...

…and it was excellent. If Old School, Knocked Up, Superbad, etc. are your flavor of movie, you’re going to love it. I know none of these are going to win any awards, but Hangover will produce plenty of t-shirt quotes and years of repeated viewings. I probably haven’t laughed that hard since I saw BORAT in theatre.

And, as for the game, one item of note. Jurrjens is starting against the Brewers tonight (with Gallardo going for the Suds), so we can actually cheer for Jair tonight. Could be a full game pick-up if Atlanta plays well behind their pitcher. Great pitching duel for those two teams.

Dan

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

saw a really long trailer for it last night

totally going to have to find a way to the theatre for that. Looks fabulous.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 on your sig, Allie...

… when i read that, it made me feel a tiny bit happier about life.

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

by AndrewJStone on Jun 5, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Simmons

:-)

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His podcasts are usually really solid

I end up listening to those more than I read his articles.

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that, and thought...

…“Well, you wouldn’t have thought that 6 years ago, would have you, Bill?” Before two Sox championships and a Celtics title, I’m sure he wouldn’t have thought that. In fact, Bill Simmons is probably the LAST person that should be commenting on failing in sports; all of his teams have won titles (and two of them, multiple titles) within the last decade.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

He’s proof that it happens. That hanging on and continuing to be a fan is worth it.

At least, thats MHO.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He could comment on this EPIC FAIL.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on Jun 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet another positive outcome from the rainout.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hurray Rain!

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011

by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God

I’m checking this out this weekend. This was originally something that was going to be worked into my bachelors party/night out type deal, but I have no idea when that’s going down, so peeping this with a few friends will be just fine if the flick is funny.

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Evening everyone

I hate unscheduled off days, But I’m hearing that we are going to play for the next 23 straight days? I thought we had every monday off in June

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011

by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey sue

Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2011

by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking for a good Win today

After that rainout I feel like I really need to watch baseball. Hoping to see the good Z out there today.

OT – Heading to Vegas on sunday for my 21st birthday week celebration, anyone got suggestions on things I have to do/see?

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by jkobus on Jun 5, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Errr, don't see THE HANGOVER before you go.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

We were planning to go see it tomorrow night before we left early in the morning.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by jkobus on Jun 5, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a bad omen.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I get to see Mike Tyson singing

I will die a happy man.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by jkobus on Jun 5, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooooh, they do much worse with Mike Tyson.

Just you wait.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just there and I'm gonna be there again next 2 weeks too....(for work)

There’s a good place to eat and watch the Cubbies in Summerlin if you are interested.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jun 5, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're young

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your not that much older Allie

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 5, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

but a week in vegas would probably kill me. or i’d die of boredom. i don’t drink. i don’t really like to gamble and i’m nightblind so all the “nightlife” stuff doesn’t interest me at all.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to vegas this last year twice for work.

Was out there a week each time, damn near killed me

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 28

and still consider myself to be young. I know for a fact I couldn’t spend a week in Vegas. Not unless on my first day I hit the jackpot and could ride out a full week.

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

33 and never been to Lost Wages

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

34 was there once for 3 days...

didn’t enjoy it for a variety of reasons

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 5, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have no interest

except to see Hoover Dam

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is impressive

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Almost 31...

and have yet to make it.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Jun 5, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 35

and I still want to get there, just to see it. Plus, i’d like to see Penn and Teller

by chitownhawkeye on Jun 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just 3 full days

Get in Sunday, leave Wed night.

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by jkobus on Jun 5, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 days sounds about right

If you’re going to be going to clubs, hit up Pure. You can get in easy at night if you go early in the day and get a bracelet then, or get what I think is called a bottle pass. It’s over $100, but it includes some drinks, and given that one mix drink is about $12, if you can split it up with friends, you’re guaranteed to get in later on at night.

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

We will have to check out Pure.

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by jkobus on Jun 5, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd suggest going and seeing KA if you can

its kick ass

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet Sue got a charge out of Lou's comment about Geo being so "back-sided'!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 5, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hi Sue

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I posted it!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 5, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

espn is scrolling

fausto carmona got demoted to rookie legue team.

no link

by tim815 on Jun 5, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Send Carmona to rookie ball, activate Hafner

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks, allie

running on next to no sleep

by tim815 on Jun 5, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yuck

why no sleep? sleep is good!

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPECIALLY

when done with a friend!!!

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TW.....

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

depends on the friend *giggling evilly*

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 5, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

truth

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’d say so.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

the line was getting fuzzy around here anyway. :-P

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

apologies

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not offended

Don’t worry. Was just ribbing ya. Still, it was unexpected, so points for that I guess.

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

Four more points and I can finally get that BCB keychain

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear they use lead paint on those

I’d wait to get the BCB mini basketball

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do need one for my office

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

apolgies also

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey he apologized.... so I thought that I should also since

I took a step further

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was doing it

because everyone else was :)

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I just bored.

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 5, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The new SBN update is the reason every other word is clickable in posts now, correct?

I like that it is an auto-feature (I’ll ignore the fact that BR is the best place to go for player data), but it’s somewhat confusing when half the links are just to player or team data, and the others are actual links Al has provided for readers.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

its nice letting the post

be auto-linked, saves a lot of time and effort. Thing to be careful about is matching names, example: today in mine Tim Raines linked to his son, not the father whom I was commenting about. It did not give me an option, so i had to check it and change it.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LETS GO CUBBIES

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a tid bit:

No link, but I’ve been reading that STL is moving pieces around on their roster, and might be going after Holliday to protect Albie…

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 5, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good. Let 'em. He's a free agent after 2009, and he's already making $13.5M this year.

I hope they send some pieces over to the A’s and deplete their farm system a bit. I can’t see the Cardinals trying to re-up a guy that’s gonna command a huge contract.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Albert Pujols?

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but you pay that kinda money to Pujols

I’m not so sure if Holliday would also be worth that

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know HOW they are going to pay that money to Pujols

especially due to lower ticket sales this year…

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'll have to find a way

I don’t know how you let someone like him go

by Craig in South Bend on Jun 5, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep in mind

possible home discount

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but even that… he’s albert pujols… half off regular market value isn’t cheap.

There is no infinity button for failing in sports. At some point, things turn. They always do. - Bill Simmons

by Allie on Jun 5, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly, and I dont think the cardinals can afford that

and if they do, it would handcuff them as far as the rest of the team is concerned

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just have a feeling AP is going to persue the $$$$$

unless the Cards far in the Playoffs next year

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

depends

he may want to avoid the big market pressure (NY, BOS, CHI) and want to stay in St Louis.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats possible, but unlikely IMO

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by heine41 on Jun 5, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albert Pujols is the best player in baseball.

I don’t consider Matt Holliday to be in the top 10, nevertheless the top 12 or 15.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jun 5, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JIMMY

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Jun 5, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TIMMY!

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by Jimmyeatworld on Jun 5, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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