With Z, There's Always Something: Zambrano Says He'll Retire After His Contract Is Up. Oh, Yes: Cubs Win 2-1
Even when he's not trying to be controversial, Carlos Zambrano creates controversy. As first posted in this FanPost from earlier this morning, Z said that he would retire after his current contract expires. This was in response to a question asking whether he thought he could win 300 games, since last night's 2-1 Cubs win over the Reds was the 100th of Z's, um, eventful career with the Cubs.
The correct answer is, "Who knows?" Carlos Zambrano wears his heart on his sleeve, as we have all seen many times. That was likely an emotional response, blurted out without really thinking about it. After the 2013 season -- when his deal will expire, presuming the vesting option for that season vests (and it probably will) -- he will be 32 years old. Competitive as we all know he is, I can't see him walking away from baseball. But this is more than four years away and, in the meantime, there are games and hopefully championships to be won. And in terms of records -- well, let's presume Z can win at least ten more games this year. That'd put him at 110 career wins; the team record is 201, held by Charlie Root. Let's say Z wins 18 games -- admittedly, a stretch -- each of the next four seasons. That'd put him at 182 and within reach of the club mark. You don't think the intensely competitive Z wouldn't want to come back to challenge that, and make him definitively the best pitcher in Cubs history? I say he would.
Unfortunately, the statement by Z -- which headlined the cubs.com recap linked above -- took the focus away from not only his milestone victory, but a nicely played game all-around by the Cubs last night. Z threw well in only his third start since May 3 (two after returning from the DL, and last night after a six-game suspension and an unscheduled day off due to rain), allowing only two hits. He was a bit wild with five walks, but good defense and a double play held the Reds scoreless until Z was pulled with two out in the seventh and 109 pitches. Meanwhile, the Cubs took advantage of Micah Owings' wildness in the first to score a run on a bases-loaded walk, and then Z gave them the eventual margin of victory with his second homer of the season -- hit righthanded, to the opposite field. That was a relative rarity; first of all, Z hit righthanded vs. the RHP Owings, and the HR, the 18th of his career, was the seventh hit righthanded. Maybe Z will want to stick around to break the pitchers' career record for home runs, which is 37, which is held by Wes Ferrell. Ferrell's listed with 38 homers, but one of them was hit as a pinch-hitter; it was a three-run walkoff, no less, on July 21, 1935.
I'm a little concerned still about Carlos Marmol, who gave up the Reds' only run while being wild (only 12 strikes in 23 pitches and two walks). His slider looked OK, but the fastball was all over the place. Kevin Gregg finished up for his 10th save, despite allowing a two-out hit and a deja-vu dropped third strike (I know, we all had visions of the same thing leading to disaster Tuesday night in Atlanta). Props to Ryan Theriot for making a nice defensive play on a ball seemingly headed up the middle to lead off that 9th inning.
Since the eight-game losing streak ended, the Cubs have now won six of nine in spite of not really playing their best baseball during that time. They are two games over .500 for the first time since May 22, now tied with the Reds for third place, and only two games behind the division-leading Brewers in the loss column.
So stop worrying so much. Things appear to be improving. Onward.
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who cares about what z says
Im gonna retire when I am 50,,maybe who knows..thats a long ways away..things change
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 6, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to retire when I'm 50 too. I'm 51 now. Oops, maybe next time.
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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 6, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I’m n track for 63, so only 12 years to go. I think.
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by BeerCub on Jun 6, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At 63, I'll probably have even more typos, too
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
by BeerCub on Jun 6, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This recap was supposed to post at 8 am.
I accidentally put 8 pm into the scheduler, and just noticed now. Sorry.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I once had to work a weekend
And set my cell phone alarm to 5:30. Only when I was going home from work did I realize I had set my cell phone alarm to 5:30 pm. It would explain why I overslept slightly and woke up at 6 am.
Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
harumph.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jun 6, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gave up the run to the Reds?
I thought it was charged to Marmol.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jun 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ive spent the
last 2 hours hitting refresh on my computer
by cozmotaylor123 on Jun 6, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I kept clicking the “Bleed Cubbie Blue” in the top left of the page. The recap is up, that’s what matters.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The alarm to wake me up to read BCB in the morning was set wrong too...
So this was no problem for me. Phew.
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Jun 6, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my power flashed last night
Luckily I had nothing to get up for this morning, b/c it was about 10 am when I woke up. It’s awfully nice to sleep in and then read a Cubs recap about a win. :)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
big z
why not???he will never have to work a day in his life again.as good as z is when will the cubs get tired of his act once and for all?i find him to be one of the more colorfull players in the game myself.and holding the reds to one run. huge.
by NOMAR on Jun 6, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol's inning wasnt scoreless- he gave up the only run
on a BB followed by a 3B
by philadelphiacub on Jun 6, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys are right.
I’ll fix the post.
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by Al on Jun 6, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's cross the 2013 bridge
when Z comes to it. I’m sure after the last week, he probably would like to retire.
By 2013, perhaps, the Cubs will have won three World Series in a row, and he’ll feel there’s nothing more left to do. In that case, I’ll wish him the best.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 6, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its pretty amazing
to realize how shitty this team has played so far but yet are this close in the standings. with so many of our big bats doing near nothing, all the injuries and we are still in it.
by Glacier on Jun 6, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 6, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steely Dan
I’m debating getting tix for the Chicago shows. My favorite album of theirs is “Countdown to Ecstacy,” but they’re not doing that one.
Sorry, wrong blog!
“people got to shout to stay alive!”
by thermal54 on Jun 6, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say get the tix
I don’t know what they are playing this time around, but it’s still worth it.
They haven’t played “Reelin’ in the Years”, “Do it Again” or “Rikki Don’t Lose That Number” the last few tours, which pisses me off, but I go nonetheless and have a great time. They are soo freaking good live.
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 6, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never gonna do it without the fez on.
Oh no.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw them twice
just tremendous. I was disapointed they did not play “My old School” last time, but you need Skunk Baxter to play the solo. However, they have so much material, and they have a tight band, great shows
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jun 6, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
so as Al says we should “stop worrying so much” …
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by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 6, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Imagine how good the Cubs will be once the bats wake up and start producing again.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
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by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 6, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
someone needs to keep this going…
by desmoCubbie on Jun 6, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
This is fun!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fourth and fifth
hitters in the last of the ninth weren’t
by tim815 on Jun 6, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they weren't
I’ll have a heart attack if we don’t stop having these tense innings.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was no tense -- it ended in 9
:P
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by Shanghai Badger on Jun 6, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 6, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely
what I was thinking.. oops..
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by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 6, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comment title fail.
However, we can use the comment I posted in reply to desmoCubbie..
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's late here... lol
In fact, I better get my arse to bed if I’m gonna be up in time for the game 2 in Cincy! :)
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by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 6, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, the Cubs will make sure you wake up to a win!
What are you going to do about Sunday’s game? When does that start for you?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sunday's game
will be starting at 3am here.. or 3:10am I guess…
safe to say you won’t be seeing me in the game threads for that one.. lol
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by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 6, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then the recap will be your Cubs news service.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just what I was thinking, too
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
by BeerCub on Jun 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I was just thinking the same thing. It’s incredible what a streaky game baseball is
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball
can seem to be nothing but streaks… consistency is the rarest of commodities in this sport.
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by CubFanInCanberra (9387milesfromWrigley) on Jun 6, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep and that is one of the things that makes it so frustrating and so interesting
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big start for Dempster tonight
Also, nice to see Fontenot and Lee hitting better.
by elgato on Jun 6, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The question is,
Will we see the Dempster who shut out the Dodgers last weekend?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 6, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a good win all around
We need to keep winning these close games if we want the playoffs. Looks like our pitchers are doing well.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by jkobus on Jun 6, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just read that in our last 9 games our starters have a 1.99 ERA.
That’s why we are winning. Our offense is still craptastic.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 6, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
If we had any semblance of offense this year we’d run away with the division. Have to keep grinding it out and hopefully Marmol will get better.
So far this season, the Cubs, Brewers and Cards look similar in this respect. When each team is winning consistently, they look unbeatable. When they are losing, they really look horrible. This season is not going to be like last year, at least to this point. We pounded teams last year and only had maybe, three? stretches of really bad baseball. I am sure the Cards and Brew Crew will have a couple of more bad stretches themselves, hopefully we can take advantage of those times.
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 6, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This season
Is going to be so tight all year. All three teams are so evenly matched, even across most of the NL. If the Cubs can start a fire in the bats, we have a huge chance at taking the division.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by jkobus on Jun 6, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 2009 Cubs are like a West Coast team.
Er, minus any particular speed threat.
Still, great win for Z last night. In fact, it was a classic Carlos performance. He basically beat the Reds by himself.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish we had some speed on the bases
stealing runs when your bats are silent can really save your bacon. I wonder what our % of runs scored are HR’s this year, and compare that with last year. Seemed like we had a more balanced attack in ’08.
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 6, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I actually don't recall...
…last year’s team having all that much speed either. I think the key difference is the bottom of the order was so much more potent. I love Blanco’s glove, but he’s probably not going to do much offensively. Same thing with Koyie Hill – he’s had some good knocks this season, but his track record at the plate at the major league level speaks for itself. IIRC, last year we had DeRo, (a better hitting) Soto and Theriot holding up the bottom of the lineup.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan that is an awesome stat!
I knew it had to low but that low. Gives me some hope!
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angel Guzman
is quickly becoming one of my favorite Cubs. I shouted at the TV when he was not summoned to the bump for the 8th inning.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 6, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm officially starting the...
…Guzman for 2009 closer campaign. Give Gregg one more chance and when he blows the lead give Guzman a chance.
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by cubswynn on Jun 6, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have yard signs?
I’ll take three. :-)
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by Goodie1969 on Jun 6, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done. You are officially volunteer coordinator.
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by cubswynn on Jun 6, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you love it when folks step up like that? lol
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by BigJohnAZ on Jun 6, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh, that's too rich for my blood.
As many of us hoped, Guzman shows signs of being the Carlos Marmol of ’09. He needs to be available to put out fires and get the team out of jams (like last night). Gregg has nailed down a couple save chances now. Just leave him the closer.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to Gregg starting his own fires.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 6, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No closer is perfect every time.
Brad Lidge had a perfect season last year, but he started plenty of fires that he was able to get out of. Gregg’s worst moment last night was the breaking ball in the dirt that got away, but at least part of the blame there can be pinned on Koyie Hill for trying to backhand it. Gregg still got the K. Again, a team that blows leads earlier in the game has no need for a closer to begin with. So leave Guzman in the set-up role where he can do the most good.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand the logic behind what your saying.
But if you’ve already got a solid set up man for that role, then you don’t NEED another guy like that. Ideally 8th marmol, 9th guzman, plus a combination of matchups for the prior innings should be enough to win games.
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by cubswynn on Jun 6, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ideally isn't what happens
in games with leads Lou will NOT USE the other bullpen pieces so if you remove Gregg from the 9th he’s only going to lean on Guzman and Marmol, Lou doesn’t “mix and match” the bullpen late in games because he has no faith in anyone but those guys. Removing Gregg from the closers’ role would just mean more leaning on the starters + Marmol/Guzman and they can’t be leaned on much more as is
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 6, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
what makes you think Lou (who currently trusts him in the 9th) wouldn’t trust him in the 7th?
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by cubswynn on Jun 6, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Gregg is an experienced closer...
…and Lou has chosen him for that role.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming he demotes him from the 9th
would assume a loss in confidence
doesn’t that seem logical?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 6, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the other solid setup man?
Carlos Marmol has walked 25 batters in 26 innings. Assuming he regains his control at some point, this team needs someone to take some heat off Carlos’ shoulders.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Gregg
Your entrance music is ready.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 6, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha - I saw that one comin'!
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by dat cubfan daver on Jun 6, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 6, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol
this stretch has almost been worse than any other stretch Lou put him through last year in terms of abuse
He’s now pitched 6 times in the last 10 days, which is 6 of the last 8 games and he’s warmed up in 1 of those games he didn’t come in
this is getting ridiculous, the numbers are clear. The more rest Marmol gets the better he pitches and Lou is working hard to break him again
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 6, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And with Guzman only throwing 4 pitches the inning before, he should have continued to see how far he could have gone.
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by KaliCub on Jun 6, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have liked to see Guzman come in for the top of the 8th.
But Marmol did have a day off.
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by drewishdrewid on Jun 6, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol's been pitching alot lately(see Dartmouth)
And Guzman was effective with only 4 pitches. Sometimes managing by the numbers doesn’t always work. But hey, we escaped with a victory. Let’s get em tonight.
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by KaliCub on Jun 6, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol/Guz/Gregg
All have been used a lot lately, and you can lay that on the offense for not creating leads large enough for Lou to feel comfortable calling on Heilman, Waddell, or Patton. With Marshall back in the ’pen, hopefully there will be a chance for those three to get a bit of rest.
OT: Up by 2 in the bottom of the ninth, with 2 outs, Seattle’s closer has just walked two in a row to get himself into trouble in the Twin Cities. We ain’t the only ones, apparently.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 6, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teach me to pay attention
That was a replay game. Twins are at Seattle starting in a couple of minutes.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jun 6, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or...
you can blame the manager for not having confidence in the other 3-4 guys in the pen
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 6, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK,
if he puts in one of the other guys and he blows the lead, would you be sanguine about it?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jun 6, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm... yeah
you must not pay attention
i’ve been screaming for two years that you need to be able to use the majority of your bullpen otherwise you’re putting your best assets at risk of fatigue/injury
in addition you CANT use your best relievers in blowouts, which Lou does quite often (games with 4+ run leads), you have to trust lesser options in the pen
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 6, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one day off
doesn’t do him much good…. he’s better with 2, 3, 4 days off….
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 6, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah BCB is great when we are winning.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jun 6, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't a happy place
Wonder where the anti-lee, Soto juicing, MB hating, Jim Henry should be fired crowd is?
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this win is not enough
Lee sucks, soto is fat and uses steroids, MB will never play another game, and jim hendry should be fired.
by desmoCubbie on Jun 6, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot a few more
Dome will return to his 2nd half so we should realize that we are over paying a platoon player. Not mention Sori shouldn’t be leading off.
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now, no need to mock me. :) just kidding
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by KaliCub on Jun 6, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget the
Lou is exactly like Dusty Baker comments
by desmoCubbie on Jun 6, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Jake Peavy.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jun 6, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roberts!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 6, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's early.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 6, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, the statement by Z -- which headlined the cubs.com recap linked above -- took the focus away from not only his milestone victory, but a nicely played game all-around by the Cubs last night."
you did the same thing, boss
Ramlee Zamfukusoridero
by hiphopgamer26 on Jun 6, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I figured it would be what people wanted to talk about.
Guess I was right.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 6, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not an ace
Zambrano has won 95 of his 100 wins since the start of the 2003 season, which ranks fourth among all big league pitchers in that span. Johan Santana began Friday with 105 wins, Roy Halladay had 103 and Roy Oswalt 98 since 2003.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
by Villeslgr on Jun 6, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So the key is
to be either Venezeulan or named Roy.
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Jun 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit, I'm neither.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 6, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could emmigrate and change your name
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jun 6, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good company
to be in.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. When they play over their heads, and when they play under the gutter. When they win the division, and then get swept in the division series. When they get no-hitters and when they blow no-hitters. And some day, when they go all the way and get those rings. This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jun 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate night games becuase lazy Al doesn't post recaps till the next morning, therefore the post game discussion doesnt start till then
by xene on Jun 6, 2009 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Lazy"?
Yeah, right.
You try getting up at 3 am for work for 13 years, then tell me how much energy you’d have for night game recaps that night.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 6, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he's kidding
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 6, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, so do I.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 6, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Work = Work
Blog = Hobby
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Jun 7, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally support Z's retirement plans and believe in my heart of hearts that I'll be playing Golf with Z in 4 years.
Sincerely,
Larry Brown
by DudeVf11 on Jun 6, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just can't believe that Fox is playing rf today. Should be interesting.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Jun 6, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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