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MLB Amateur Draft Open Thread

The Draft starts tonight at 5pm Central on the MLB Network and on-line at MLB.com. The Cubs have the 31st pick in the first round, so it's going to be a while before they get a turn.

It's amazing how fast the Major League Baseball Amateur Draft has grown over the past decade. Some of us can remember when picks after the first round were secret for at least a week. (That's why Bob Brenly's story about him calling the commissioner's office to see if he had been drafted isn't ridiculous at all.) The interest in the draft goes hand-in-hand with a much greater interest in amateur baseball, although I couldn't tell you which one was the chicken and which one was the egg.

To recap, this is an extremely difficult draft to predict after the Nationals select Stephen Strasburg. We prepared reports on nine players we think the Cubs might select, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Cubs select none of those nine players. I'll also quote ESPN's Keith Law: "The Cubs like a lot of guys who aren't going to be on the board when they pick."

The final mock drafts were published this morning and three of the four agree that the Cubs are grabbing a collegiate center fielder, but they can't agree on which one:

Jim Callis at Baseball America projects Brett Jackson OF California

Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus projects Tim Wheeler OF Sacramento State

Jonathan Mayo at MLB.com projects AJ Pollock OF Notre Dame

Keith Law at ESPN.com projects Andy Oliver LHP Oklahoma State

So you can see how difficult our task was.

If you wish to review, here are the reports on AJ Pollock, Eric Arnett, and seven others. Matt and I feel pretty good that Pollock and Arnett are in the Cubs sights.  Although I was last week when Matt wrote up the reports, I'm no longer confident that either will still be on the board at #31. None of the mock drafts issued this week have Arnett lasting to #31 and only Mayo has Pollock falling to us.  That's how quickly the draft changes.

So having said that:

Poll
Who should the Cubs take with the 31st pick in the MLB Amateur Draft?
AJ Pollock OF Notre Dame
39 votes
Eric Arnett RHP Indiana
15 votes
Brett Jackson OF California
64 votes
Chad James RHP Yukon HS (OK)
8 votes
Jared Mitchell OF LSU
20 votes
Garrett Gould RHP Maize HS (KS)
5 votes
Tim Wheeler OF Sacramento State
14 votes
Andy Oliver LHP Oklahoma State
22 votes

187 votes | Poll has closed

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Baseball America has the following Top 8:

1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It has been nuts!

so much movement. I love Hobgood, but number 5!?!?! Never saw that coming. Its’s been quite a day already and not even one pick has been made.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

Pittsburgh is really firm on Sanchez, which is good news for us because I don’t think he goes in the first round if the Pirates don’t take him. Boston might grab him if Stassi wasn’t available.

They’re going cheapp here to spend all their money on Sano.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now it's

1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.
9. Tigers: Picking from Matzek, Turner, Miller and Leake.
10. Nationals: Stanford righthander Drew Storen.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nats grab Storen?

That’s real budget pick, although Storen probably could close for the Nats right now. Of course, you could probably close for the Nats right now.

That’s a good Top ten for us. Players are dropping.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

At least the Nats are going budget after grabbing Starburg. Pittsburgh going Sanchez is inexcusable. And Atlanta going Minor with White there is pretty bad (and of course Matzek, et al but Braves management won’t allow them to go over slot).

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh's plan

is to grab Sanchez and then spend the big bucks on Sano and then take Gibson or Purke or someone else who slides out of the first round because of his contract demands and then pay him the big money.

It’s not the dumbest strategy in the world if it works, but if you want those sliders, why not just take them at #4?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

It’s very risky with Detroit and the Red Sox and Yankees around.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has no leverage

since it would just be flat out dumb for him to not to sign

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arnett

I went with Arnett, he has pretty good upside and looks to be a real durable guy who can throw 200 inning on a relatively consistent basis. His fastball and slider are both plus pitches. The difference for him will be if he can develop a changeup. If not, he may end up in the pen, but I am confident.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have no confidence

that Arnett will still be available when we pick at #31. When you wrote the profile last week, I thought there was a good possibility, but now I don’t think he falls past the White Sox at #23 and could go a lot earlier.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im with you

just hoping we take him if he’s there :)

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

But I don’t think he’ll be there.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep an eye on the HS pitchers

The Cubs have been linked to Jacob Turner, but we might see a free fall with guys like Tyler Matzek, Matt Purke, and Shelby Miller because of their bonus demands.

If the Tigers don’t take one of them, the Cubs could see one of those four fall into their laps.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Its crazy

seeing a dude from a rival school being the top high school arm available.

Zack Wheeler – East Paulding High School
Me – South Paulding High School.

by cubsfaninatl on Jun 9, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Zach Wheeler

will go from 5-7. If Baltimore and the Giants pass, there is no way that Atlanta passes up the local kid.

But I bet he goes to Baltimore at #5.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

I’m not gonna sit here and try to predict where people are gonna go. Not smart enough for that.

But you’re right I doubt he’ll get past 7

by cubsfaninatl on Jun 9, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Braves

try to grab as many high school players from GA and SC as they can. It’s been their MO for years and it works for them.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

I responded to your question about Brett Jackson in the previous thread. A guy who knows Jackson and Cal told me his K problems are because he’s too selective and disagrees with college umps too much. He sent me a bunch of stats and videos too. (No, it wasn’t Brett himself.)

Knowing the quality of college umps, I find that at least partially believable. I can’t believe it explains all of it. But it could be a factor that could be corrected.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bryce Harper story on NPR now

WBEZ 91.5 FM in Chicago, if you’re interested.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 9, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody mind

giving the condensed version for those outside of the Chicago area?

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being called "the chosen one" by Las Vegas Sun writer

“Refreshing attitude” and “five-tool player” were other highlights. Kid is getting his GED so he can go to junior college and be on the draft next year.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Jun 9, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it basically just more of the same that we've heard?

About how he is the best prep athlete anybody has seen in a while and how he’s trying to enter the independent league to become draft eligible early?

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh

Who are the Nats going to take?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know!!!

But MLB TV tells me it might be Mike Trout!

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be Strasburg...

Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers

by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. It's Strasburg.

Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers

by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Obvious Pick #2 coming up

Seattle Mariners, meet Dustin Ackley. Dustin Ackley, meet Seattle Mariners.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually

that division is so bad right now, the Mariners could turn it around quickly.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sad but true

Do you know where the Seattle farm system ranks?

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not off the top of my head

They were a top system, then they traded everyone to Baltimore for Bedard and have let Jeff Clement rot in the minors.

Middle of the pack, I guess.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it possible they become sellers this year though

I know I’ve heard Beltre’s name mentioned not sure who else could be available

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes

If they can get anything for Bedard or Beltre, they’ll deal them both. Washburn too, but I don’t think he’ll bring anything back.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call.

Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers

by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obvious pick is obvious.

He’s the best bat in the draft and the Mariners have been hard after him for awhile.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pirates have a pre-draft deal

in place with with Sanchez

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What if

the Padres take him? :-)

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now for the first drama

Do the Padres chose Donovan Tate?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

most likely

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Pads

should really take Matzek, but I don’t think it happens

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Pads

If they don’t take Tate, they sure aren’t taking someone with signability concerns.

If they take someone like Minor or Leake, this draft will go flying out the window.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pads take Tate

laaaaaaaaaaaame

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What ever are you talking about????

Harold Reynolds said that the Padres are boring and Tate is exciting! He must be right!!

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the idiot sitting next to him

also thought Trout was in the mix for #2, and that Matzek threw in the upper-90’s

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tate to Padres

No surprises yet. And the Pirates will take Sanchez.

Everything is going per the board so far.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The TV/online broadcast is pathetic...

The broadcast of this draft is yet another embarrassment for MLB. The first round of the draft used to be done in about 5 minutes. This time-filling, three minutes a pick thing is just stupid. Some events are just not made for TV, and the MLB draft is one of them.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Then don't watch

I never got that argument. Yes, they’re filling time so they can sell commercials. But if you don’t like it, don’t watch.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not the point, Josh...

There is no reason that it needs to take so long. Three minutes per pick? Why? The NBA and NFL drafts are worth televising for two reasons:
1. The top picks might make an immediate impact on their team.
2. Teams can trade picks for players and move around in the draft, creating the potential for drama.

Baseball has neither of those things. These draftees will disappear for a year or three in the minors. There are no trades. There is no drama, just Mel Kuiper Jr.-esque babble. It is boring.

I am watching because I want to know who is picked (in part because I know a young man who might go in the first three rounds), but I feel like I being held hostage by marketing.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It may be boring

And I know it used to take half an hour. Yes, they’re trying to sell commercials. They’re a business.

But if you just want to know who gets picked and where, you can follow on line with the on-line draft tracker. It will just announce the players with no video.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, and it would still take 3 minutes or more a pick...

That is the big problem. They don’t need all this time. So, yeah, I could be watching the draft tracker online and it would still take three hours to do what should take just a few minutes. 45 minutes in, they should be into the third round by now.

Look at the team official sitting in the room there. There is nothing for them to to do. This is a case of MLB trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

So I’ll ask you a question. Why is this format necessary? What does it add to the process?

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well you could have

pretended the draft is tomorrow instead of today and scanned the list of all the players drafted in less than 10 minutes tomorrow

by bheidge on Jun 9, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It can work...

But they need to copy the NBA/NFL formula. Get some compelling personalities on TV with a few guys who actually know what they’re talking about. Do it in front of a live studio audience. Invite a bunch of the picks and let some of the potential picks sit in the audience. Have an open bar for even more raucous fun.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The last thing we need

are a bunch of drunk New Yorkers chanting M-E-T-S METS METS METS.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. Agreed.

Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers

by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh admit it

You’d take great joy in seeing the Mets fans getting excited for a certain player, and then watch them recoil in horror as the Mets take a guy who was rated as a 4th rounder. :)

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a catcher? a CATCHER?

we needed a third baseman! gah!! (look of disgust)

by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Vitters at the draft when he was selected?

I thought I remembered him walking up after his name was called at the Wide World of Sports

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

That was the first televised draft. They cut that out.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I imagine it would have been tough this year

they would have invited the whole projected first round because nobody knows who will go where unlike most years

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The biggest problem

was that most of the top draft picks were playing in the Super Regionals of the CWS and couldn’t be there.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It should have worked this year

with the next games not being till Friday

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jorge?

Just call him Tony

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No Pollock!!

His ultimate upside is a Reed Johnson type!! That’s not worth a 1st round pick!! Please, no Pollock or Jackson!! Shoot for the moon and take a guy with a future, no more Tyler Colvins!!!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Ackley is gone

So the list of potential superstar hitters is now zero.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd settle

for Jonathan Mayo.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hobgood to the O's

big fan. Should have taken Matzek

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My wife interviewed

for a job at Hobgood’s HS. She had two interviews and didn’t get the job.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My co-worker has two kids who go to Norco HS...

… but they are band kids.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't Matzek have "signability issues?"

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Not as bad as some other guys in this draft, but he wants to get paid in a big way.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say worse

He wants more than Porcello.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Someone told me earlier that Purke and Turner wanted more money than Matzek.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I thought that was Purke who wanted more than Porcello.

But what do I know?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

people say that

about every HS player

it just means he won’t sign for slot

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't the slot system a joke anyway?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very much so

Got worse when they arbitrarily decreased slot for this year

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some

but not like Purke or some others.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want a real snoozer

You should be following the MLB draft on Twitter.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What, look at the great insights!

“As each player is selected, a member of the A’s scouting staff takes their names off The Board.
OaklandAs.”

And then …

“Just to clarify, “The Board” is actually 7 big white boards which box in the tables…each with about 50 names of prospects."

Thank god for Twitter.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really Harold, teams want guys who can pitch?

I thought they wanted guys who could sink a 15 foot J? I never would have guessed that!

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love when the guys say

“Forget the numbers, this guy can pitch/hit/field/play.” Um, no…it’s baseball. I’m not going to just forget the numbers.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

They said Minor pitches in the mid-90s.

He tops out at 91 and mostly throws in the upper 80s.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ridiculous!

they said that about Matzek too. idiots.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did they say about Matzek?

He does operate 92-96 and hit 99 last week.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has been 90-93 all year

where did you get 99?

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a question:

In the MLB draft, should you draft “need” or “best available?”

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Best available

with the caveat that he’s the best available who you can sign.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love Leake

Al told me that “Deep Goat” said the Cubs were hot on Leake. I told Al that if Leake was still available when the Cubs picked at #31, I’d eat my shoes.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That sounds about right for Wilken

He doesn’t mind size for his pitchers. Tim Lincecum was #1 on his board in 2006. Jarrod Parker was #3 in 2007 (after Price and Vitters).

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sonny Gray last year

I know there was no chance he signed but he’s another small pitcher

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs would have loved to get Leake.

They knew that at #31, that was probably a pipedream. Good selection by the Reds.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 9, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

BA was certain it’d be Alex White.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not happy

that Leake is going to be pitching in the NL Central.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least its a hitter's park.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jacob Turner to DET

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There goes

the thought that Turner would fall to us on signability issues.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

Might as well keep up hope on Matzek, Purke, or Miller.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Purke probably will fall to us

But he’s not worth what he’s asking for. I suppose we could draft him and get another pick next year.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How exactly does that work?

Would the Cubs get the 31st pick next year, or is it a supplemental?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

It might be the 31st pick if the Cubs are the only team who doesn’t sign their pick out of this year’s draft. I could be mistaken on that, though.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'd get

the #32 pick—or maybe a few picks later if teams before us don’t sign their pick

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks everyone

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah my bad

didnt think about picks before us possibly not signing

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Argh!

That was one signability guy the Cubs were linked to.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep...but DET doesn't have that problem (see Porcello)

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, they do in a sense

Because Matzek rates better than Turner.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Storen to the Nats

if all the rumors are correct.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it is...good call

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now it gets interesting

Do the Rockies take Tim Wheeler or Pollock or one of the guys we want?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alex White

The Rockies loves them some college pitching.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA's blog said pitcher

And they nailed everyone but Alex White at 8.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Jonathan Mayo

makes an appearance. He’s being wasted here.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Matzek to the Rockies

So he doesn’t fall any farther.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Matzek to the Rockies

surprised, but like it for them

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyler Matzek to the Rockies

They better be ready to pony up.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll offer him

Matt Harrington’s contract.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had a couple of terrible starts

although his last one was great. Top that off with his salary demands and he’s dropping.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool.

Thanks to you both :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish they had limitations on the bonus demands...

1) It’s ridiculous that a guy who has never played a game is asking for multi millions;
2) It would make the whole draft much more interesting if any team could draft any guy based off of talent.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has control problems

But no one has mentioned anything about bonus demands or injury problems.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

I hope MLB dispenses with these player interviews (or at least interviewing HS’s). Some of them have been painful…

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've discovered

that young baseball players are not usually the most articulate people in the world.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I’ve never been one of those people who takes pleasure in watching people struggle, so I’m sitting here cringing and hoping that the kid makes it throug without saying something embarressing.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After Hochevar

It’s not totally unexpected.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not

is Crow represented by Boras?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

It makes more sense than giving $10 million to Jose Guillen or $6 million Willie Bloomquist.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Green

to Oakland?

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Green to the Athletics

so Green will be wearing green.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grant Green to OAK

Thoughts?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that they call him a 5-tool player

and then say he’s average in all 5 tools…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

If he can go back to what made him a great player his sophomore year, the A’s would have a fantastic player on their hands.

However, I’m leery of hyped up guys who regress.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is pretty funny...

I think from now on I’ll refer to myself as a former 5-tool player.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Green to Oakland!

(Everyone else said it; figured I should too) :-p

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here, I'll say it again.

Grant Green to Oakland!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Purke won't fall to us

Teams are daring the signability players to not sign.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The rate this is going

The Cubs game will be over when they get to pick

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good news

as the Indians were rumored to take Arnett. White falling to CLE increases our chances of getting him.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably not

I think the White Sox take him at #23 if he gets that far.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a strange comment by Matzek in that interview.

Asked if he would miss batting, since he was drafted as a pitcher by the Rockies, he said “Well, [the University of] Oregon has told me that I’ll get to play first base, so….[pause] we’ll see what Colorado has to say about it.”

I guess I get what he was trying to say, but….

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Borchering

to the D-Backs. I think they go pitching here now.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pollack is gone

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Forget about Pollock

that will make some of you happy. He goes to the D-Backs.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Jackson might be gone by #31

Since Purke is gone, I think the Yanks take Jackson

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they won't take Renfroe in the 1st

Heathcott probably is the likely pick. Not a fan of Heathcott either. Big time mechanical issues

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

James gone

to Florida

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked him

Pretty good pick by the Marlins. They’re good at developing their prep pitchers.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did too

definitely a good pick. They need some more pitching in the system, too.

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And there goes James

Will any of our profiled players make it to us?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to feel like an idiot

if they don’t

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't

I didn’t have Andrew Cashner on my board last season.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping he'd drop to the Cubs

But knew he’d go here. Classic Marlins pick.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope the Cardinals "pass"

ala the Seahawks in the NFL draft a couple years ago.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do the Cardinals finally grab Gibson?

If they don’t, I think he slides out of the first round—maybe we take him.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit

Fantastic pick by the Cardinals.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller to the Cards

I think we’re going to have a shot at Gibson now. But did we do enough scouting on him to feel comfortable picking him? Until last week, I doubt the Cubs paid any attention to him, figuring he’d be long gone.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll have done their due diligence

They even checked out Starsburg.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere...

but does anyone know what percentage of players drafted actually sign with their team? (As opposed to going to college, being a tool about money, etc.)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It depends

On the round they’re drafted. Lower round guys are less likely to sign obviously.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you talking overall or first round?

Most of the first round picks sign—usually one or two exceptions. Most of the guys taken later in the draft (like after the 35th round) don’t, depending on whether they have other options.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makes sense.

Thanks. (I was mostly talking about the first couple rounds).

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Shawon...

reminding us why the Cubs drafted you over Dwight Gooden…thanks for that.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice...

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why indeed, Shawon... why indeed....

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shawon Dunston...

has about the moth soothing voice in the world. He’s like Bob Ross….

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller

Great ceiling, but holy heck is the guy raw. The Cardinals better be ready to be patient with him.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And the Astros

continue to stockpile their system with crap. Don’t think Mier will hit at all

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

The Astros really don’t know what they’re doing.

Mier would have been a good second round pick.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh

First out of the blue pick. I had heard some talk the Angels might take him. Mier goes to the Astros at #21.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Alex White just converted to Judaism on the MLB Network.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Harold Reynolds

asked him how he felt on becoming a member of the tribe. “Member of the Tribe” is a slang term for being a Jew.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh...

Sorry I’m slow. I didn’t make the connectinon. :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harold Reynolds is an embarassment...

The man needs a muzzle.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It really isn't pretty

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Gibson a Twin

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great pick

He’ll recover from his injury and be back to full strength next season.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gibson off the board

damn

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He slid pretty far

just not all the way to us. The Twins kind of surprise me though.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schleppers

could fall to us now. Want to take the chance?

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell

yes

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Arnett, Scheppers, Wheeler and Mitchell are still available. Even some very intriguing HS bats (Everett Williams, Mike Trout).

Of course Brett Jackson is available too. :(

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So Josh/MJMars....

What are the Cubs looking at right now?

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Arnett is still there

him, Jackson, Gould are the top 3

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arnett, Wheeler, Jackson

I think they hope Arnett falls.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really good pick

for them

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any chance he'll get drafted in the NFL?

or is he all baseball?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst kept secret

The Angels take Mike Trout with one of their two picks here.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Skaggs

with the other.

Actually they could take Everett Williams

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scheppers with the other

Apparently their medical staff cleared him

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because we all know

what the Angels need is more pitching. :-)

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't the cubs

have their ntural first round pick?

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They do

It gets bumped back two spots because the Nats didn’t sign Crow and the Yankees didn’t sign Cole.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They do...they had the 2nd best record last year

hence the 2nd to last pick…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prospectus was right

The Angels take Grichuk. If they’re still right, they go with Trout now.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could somebody please tell Midwest Bud...

… that it is not pronounced “Los An-jel-leez”. God, what a hayseed.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Somebody who lives here, jackass.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious that you would take the time to rip me for ripping Small-market Bud...

… I know he and MLB don’t give a damn. After all, it is something that concerns a fan.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want Scheppers

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

shocked on that one

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be Trout

Mayo is interviewing him.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I know the Cardinals love Grichuk.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shocker

the Angels take Trout.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oooohhhhh

Skaggs is still available. I would LOVE for the Cubs to take him. Didn’t think he would get passed the Angels

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bet you

the Brewers grab Arnett here.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Brewers are one team

who could take Jackson. Then Yankees might too.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup

As could Seattle.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arnett

won’t make it past the Mariners.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm praying

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know though

that Jackson wants to play for the Cubs really badly.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope he's better than the last Jackson (Danny)

that played for the Cubs really badly…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which of the CFers just started learning to switch-hit

I forgot who it was but I think it might have been Trout now that I think about it so this question is irrelevant

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-0 Cubs! Fuku drives in Sori

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh damn! Forgot the game was on! Thanks

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frag

Arnett to the Brewers

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh calls it

Arnett gone

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Called it

so we don’t get Arnett.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well at least...

that beautiful “CHC” is finally on the ticker there….We’ll get an answer soon. :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2-0 Cubs

Lee drives in Dome

by AzCubfan24 on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You didn't see...

Soriano’s double did you? My gameday says that he “doubled to shortstop Miguel Tejada”…he must really have been hauling :) Was wondering what happened.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Hoping for Scheppers. Or maybe Wheeler, Gould or Everett Williams.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NO

I would like Wheeler. Not Jackson

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shocker, Bradley Ks looking

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great pick

love Franklin

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nick Franklin

to the Mariners. They wanted Pollock and Arnett too.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Max Stassi

has been rumored as going to the BoSox for quite a while now.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This just in

The Mariners selected a baseball player!!

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If Wilken wants a LHP like he said

Rex Brothers will likely be available.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brothers

Scares the daylights out of me. He’s had horrific control problems.

However, he has a fantastic arm. He’d be a risky pick, but a fascinating one.

Andy Oliver is still out there, too.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just take Renfroe

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hellz yes

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-0 Cubs

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd love Scheppers

but a voice in the back of my head is whispering “Bobby Brownlie, Bobby Brownlie.”

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Shafer

Already has that covered.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but Shafer

wasn’t a first round pick.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just cringed

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But Scheppers velo has already bounced back.

Brownlie’s never did.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PERDICTIONS CALL IT OUT

im going with Wheeler from Sacramento state

by BelieveinBlue2314 on Jun 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scheppers

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy Oliver

Been awhile since we’ve seen a Boras client.

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OOH

Fuentes had more helium under him for the past week. And the BoSox pass on Stassi.

Not that we would have taken either.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Franklin

Damn the Mariners. I will never drink a Starbucks again.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 9, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No Jackson!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but but

Heathcott is going to pitch, why did they ignore this?

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well not necessarily

but there is a decent chance

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Tampa

Take Brett Jackson.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

Tampa won’t take Jackson.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want Brothers now

I never dreamed he’d still be here. Baseball America had him at #9 this morning.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

eeek

I think he is a reliever.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His BB and HBP numbers are insane

I love his pure stuff, but a lefty with horrible control problems? Scary! Scary!

by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that the Cubs are officially on the clock?

Who do you think they’ll take?

Who do you want them to take?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK Josh, make the call...

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHO?

That’s my first “Who?” moment.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

one of them toolsy OF guys

Gets comps to Damon

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, Bud

Washington is an OF, not 2b

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The teams generally submit the position they want the player to be listed at...

… that said, it wouldn’t shock me that Bud was wrong.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rays list him

as what they want him listed as. Unless Bud read 2B as OF.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brothers sounds good

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're not going to like it

but I think it’s Jackson.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do you dislike Jackson?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strikes out too much

But he does have some upside.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

power is fringy, too

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Earl Cunningham, Ty Griffin, ... and...

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ted Lilly just got a triple.

This is a good omen for the draft.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did the outfielder die?

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazin!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it

I had inside info.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey josh

got a jackson-comp for us?

by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

daw hell

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jackson

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by zambranofan on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tools

I guess. Hate his plate discipline.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if these moron's like the pick

then we should know its a bad one

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha...sigh.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Ducks from Interwebs explosion*

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by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do we all hate him?

Besides the fact that Harold likes him?

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally gutless

We must have no money to spend

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the pick of Jackson

A college position player. Somebody maybe to keep Josh Vitters company as the only viable major league prospect in this system.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He can't hit!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not fair

but not too far off.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you post the full blown analysis of Jackson?

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't hit...

There is a difference.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me be the voice of (semi) reason...

He won’t be up until 2011 at the VERY earliest…let’s wait and see what happens either way.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's the good news on Jackson

He’s going to sign. He wanted desperately to be a Cub.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that can be good for him

He will work harder to improve his game that many people don’t like right now.

"The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love." ~Bryant Gumbel

by gwl17 on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of looks like a taller Sam Fuld.

Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!

by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

J.D. Drew

physically

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we make him hit like Drew?

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way better!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano

without the power

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or speed

but seriously, Soriano is not a good comp.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson has good speed

He’s a leadoff hitter with high K and low BB, excellent arm, projected as a corner OF. Sori is a pretty decent comp.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Jun 9, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Jim Callis like Jackson?

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not particularly

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So are we sayin' that this pick is shades of Wilken's reach pick of Tyler Colvin in 2006?

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, another AA .250 hitter!

"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."

by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a reach

as every team had him going late in the first round. But he could be Tyler Colvin, yes. But he’s the upside guy you wanted.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I want is some major league projectable position players in this system

And yes, my bias is to go with collegiate players given the current status of the Cub organization and the win-now mode we are in. You can’t keep spending horrendous sums in free agency every year.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The difference being

Jackson was considered a first round talent, but seem pretty damn similar to me

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are they doing the comp. round

on the TV?

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

JD Drew would sort of be the ceiling for Jackson. If he turns into Drew, that would be great. But the odds are long he becomes JD Drew.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that sounds better

except that he’s better defensively—potentially.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is nothing about Jackson

that relates to Swisher

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's what Kevin Goldstein said

“Cubs take Brett Jackson from Cal, who seemed to be in the mix for every team in the 20s. He’s either a star or the next Tyler Colvin. That’s really the range here as a risk/upside college guy.”

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All I know is that Colvin can be chalked up yet as yet another bust

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

that he was.

hopefully our selecting is better now.

by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was

wasnt going to be great but probably league average

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OBP

He hit .321 with a .407 OBP at Cal this year. Eight home runs.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

had 28 walks

forget what the OBP was, check yesterdays post.

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like

a .900+ OPS shouldn’t be considered “never hit”

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

people are being too harsh. He’s not bad. But the number of Ks is worrisome. Other than that, he’s fine although hardly a potential superstar. But neither was Tim Wheeler who people around here wanted us to take.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so it sounds like

if he makes contact at a better rate, he’ll likely be a pretty decent player

he took walks which is something colvin never did, seems like a bit better player than colvin a bit less projection in terms of power though

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a big "if" though...

if he’s struggling with Ks in college, expecting better contact in the pros might be asking a LOT.

by SouthernCub on Jun 9, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with the rest of it though...

aside from the low contact rate (which is a concern), he does walk a more than Colvin, and appears to have similar (but slightly less) power. Similar speed?

Then again, perhaps comparing him to Colvin isn’t a great thing?

by SouthernCub on Jun 9, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not worried about power

Baseball is making the shift back to how the game was played in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Maybe it’s the post-steroid era taking hold. But all I know is that power isn’t the biggest consideration I would be looking at. Can the kid hit, and can hit execute with the bat. Those are the things of most concern. If he can do those things I could care less if he is 15 HR type player.

You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it hasn't

but again i’d rather have a guy who struggles to make contact but has been productive than a guy who struggles to walk

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its college

striking out 28% of the time.

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably a little above

very few guys will sign for slot since MLB decreased them for this year, but he doesn’t have big bonus demands reported.

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does he sign?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He signs

I’ve been told he’s wants to be a Cub really badly. He fell in love with Wrigley when he went to a game there when he was 18.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually like the pick

If we didn’t have a guy like Colvin, we’d be a lot more excited about this pick.

by swimfan on Jun 9, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

David Renfroe

During the long wait for pick #79, I have a question for those of you who pay far more attention to the draft and the available players. Is the hype surrounding Renfroe due to rumors that the Yankees would take him and pay him above slot (a/t the NY Post, he wants $3m) or is it because he is the son of (the real) Laddie Renfroe?

"I'd rather play baseball than eat." - Andy Pafko

by LaddieRenfroe on Jun 9, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably Laddie

He is very talented though. I would take him if I had a supp. pick. Prefer him as a SS actually and like him better than Mier.

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs take

LaMahieu, infielder from LSU.

Can’t play short, not great great at 2b. Long swing.

my anger continues

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

justified

anger, not the pick.

we have, what, 19 second basemen in the pipeline?

and 2 shortsops?

by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess i haffa watch the

college world series after all

by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't

We already have enough middle infielders from LSU?

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 9, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is

Tim Wilken’s mantra

he’ll draft 2B/SS/CF/C and SP’s, he rarely drafts Corner players

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We want Max Stassi

Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!

by Cub Style on Jun 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell happened to him?

I’m back after dinner. He hasn’t been drafted? I guess once he slid out of the first round, he wasn’t willing to sign for less.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

must be it

I was surprised the BoSox passed on him

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Goldstein

says he has no clue why Stassi fell so far.

by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just stopping in to say

Why take a CF when we all know how that works out for the Cubs?

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Jun 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs 3rd Round Pick

LHP Austin Kirk

"The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love." ~Bryant Gumbel

by gwl17 on Jun 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

may be the best pick today

high school left-hander 88-91 with advanced change

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaMahieu

Given his size, I wonder if he can eventually grow power-wise into a 3B.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Top Available - per BA

30. Max Stassi, c, Yuba City (Calif.) HS

38. Sam Dyson, rhp, South Carolina

41. Zack Von Rosenbuerg, rhp, Zachary (La.) HS

43. Brody Colvin, rhp, More HS, Lafayette, La.

45. Madison Younginer, rhp, Mauldin (S.C.) HS

47. Keyvius Sampson, rhp, Forest HS, Ocala, Fla.

55. Chris Dwyer, lhp, Clemson

59. Jeff Malm, 1b, Bishop Gorman HS, Las Vegas

60. A.J. Morris, rhp, Kansas State

62. Jason Stoffel, rhp, Arizona

63. Kent Matthes, of, Alabama

64. Angelo Songco, of, Loyola Marymount

65. Brian Goodwin, of, Rocky Mount (N.C.) HS

68. Dane Williams, rhp, Archbishop McCarthy HS, SW Ranches, Fla.

74. Jacob Stewart, of, Rocky Moutain HS, Fort Collins, Colo.

80. Ryan Jackson, ss, Miami

81. Austin Maddox, c, Eagle’s View Academy, Jacksonville, Fla.

82. Brooks Raley, lhp/of, Texas A&M

83. Andrew Doyle, rhp, Oklahoma

90. Ryan Buch, rhp, Monmouth

92. Kendal Volz, rhp, Baylor

94. Matt den Dekker, of, Florida

96. Luke Bailey, c, Troup HS, LaGrange, Ga.

by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Surprised Stassi fell like this

Von Rosenberg is my favorite of that group. Three very strong pitches for a HS arm, surprised he didnt go in the 2nd

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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else notice

that Cubs first pick Brett Jackson was born the week the lights went on at Wrigley (he was born 8-2-88)?

I can’t guarantee this means he’ll end up being the best Cub of the modern era, but I can’t guarantee he won’t either.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Jun 10, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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