MLB Amateur Draft Open Thread
The Draft starts tonight at 5pm Central on the MLB Network and on-line at MLB.com. The Cubs have the 31st pick in the first round, so it's going to be a while before they get a turn.
It's amazing how fast the Major League Baseball Amateur Draft has grown over the past decade. Some of us can remember when picks after the first round were secret for at least a week. (That's why Bob Brenly's story about him calling the commissioner's office to see if he had been drafted isn't ridiculous at all.) The interest in the draft goes hand-in-hand with a much greater interest in amateur baseball, although I couldn't tell you which one was the chicken and which one was the egg.
To recap, this is an extremely difficult draft to predict after the Nationals select Stephen Strasburg. We prepared reports on nine players we think the Cubs might select, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Cubs select none of those nine players. I'll also quote ESPN's Keith Law: "The Cubs like a lot of guys who aren't going to be on the board when they pick."
The final mock drafts were published this morning and three of the four agree that the Cubs are grabbing a collegiate center fielder, but they can't agree on which one:
Jim Callis at Baseball America projects Brett Jackson OF California
Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus projects Tim Wheeler OF Sacramento State
Jonathan Mayo at MLB.com projects AJ Pollock OF Notre Dame
Keith Law at ESPN.com projects Andy Oliver LHP Oklahoma State
So you can see how difficult our task was.
If you wish to review, here are the reports on AJ Pollock, Eric Arnett, and seven others. Matt and I feel pretty good that Pollock and Arnett are in the Cubs sights. Although I was last week when Matt wrote up the reports, I'm no longer confident that either will still be on the board at #31. None of the mock drafts issued this week have Arnett lasting to #31 and only Mayo has Pollock falling to us. That's how quickly the draft changes.
So having said that:
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Baseball America has the following Top 8:
1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It has been nuts!
so much movement. I love Hobgood, but number 5!?!?! Never saw that coming. Its’s been quite a day already and not even one pick has been made.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
Pittsburgh is really firm on Sanchez, which is good news for us because I don’t think he goes in the first round if the Pirates don’t take him. Boston might grab him if Stassi wasn’t available.
They’re going cheapp here to spend all their money on Sano.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now it's
1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.
9. Tigers: Picking from Matzek, Turner, Miller and Leake.
10. Nationals: Stanford righthander Drew Storen.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nats grab Storen?
That’s real budget pick, although Storen probably could close for the Nats right now. Of course, you could probably close for the Nats right now.
That’s a good Top ten for us. Players are dropping.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
At least the Nats are going budget after grabbing Starburg. Pittsburgh going Sanchez is inexcusable. And Atlanta going Minor with White there is pretty bad (and of course Matzek, et al but Braves management won’t allow them to go over slot).
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pittsburgh's plan
is to grab Sanchez and then spend the big bucks on Sano and then take Gibson or Purke or someone else who slides out of the first round because of his contract demands and then pay him the big money.
It’s not the dumbest strategy in the world if it works, but if you want those sliders, why not just take them at #4?
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crow's contract demands
have him falling.
by rlpete on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has no leverage
since it would just be flat out dumb for him to not to sign
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arnett
I went with Arnett, he has pretty good upside and looks to be a real durable guy who can throw 200 inning on a relatively consistent basis. His fastball and slider are both plus pitches. The difference for him will be if he can develop a changeup. If not, he may end up in the pen, but I am confident.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no confidence
that Arnett will still be available when we pick at #31. When you wrote the profile last week, I thought there was a good possibility, but now I don’t think he falls past the White Sox at #23 and could go a lot earlier.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im with you
just hoping we take him if he’s there :)
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep an eye on the HS pitchers
The Cubs have been linked to Jacob Turner, but we might see a free fall with guys like Tyler Matzek, Matt Purke, and Shelby Miller because of their bonus demands.
If the Tigers don’t take one of them, the Cubs could see one of those four fall into their laps.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its crazy
seeing a dude from a rival school being the top high school arm available.
Zack Wheeler – East Paulding High School
Me – South Paulding High School.
by cubsfaninatl on Jun 9, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zach Wheeler
will go from 5-7. If Baltimore and the Giants pass, there is no way that Atlanta passes up the local kid.
But I bet he goes to Baltimore at #5.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I’m not gonna sit here and try to predict where people are gonna go. Not smart enough for that.
But you’re right I doubt he’ll get past 7
by cubsfaninatl on Jun 9, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Braves
try to grab as many high school players from GA and SC as they can. It’s been their MO for years and it works for them.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch it live on MLB.com
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way
I responded to your question about Brett Jackson in the previous thread. A guy who knows Jackson and Cal told me his K problems are because he’s too selective and disagrees with college umps too much. He sent me a bunch of stats and videos too. (No, it wasn’t Brett himself.)
Knowing the quality of college umps, I find that at least partially believable. I can’t believe it explains all of it. But it could be a factor that could be corrected.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryce Harper story on NPR now
WBEZ 91.5 FM in Chicago, if you’re interested.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 9, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody mind
giving the condensed version for those outside of the Chicago area?
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being called "the chosen one" by Las Vegas Sun writer
“Refreshing attitude” and “five-tool player” were other highlights. Kid is getting his GED so he can go to junior college and be on the draft next year.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Jun 9, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it basically just more of the same that we've heard?
About how he is the best prep athlete anybody has seen in a while and how he’s trying to enter the independent league to become draft eligible early?
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know!!!
But MLB TV tells me it might be Mike Trout!
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be Strasburg...
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. It's Strasburg.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Obvious Pick #2 coming up
Seattle Mariners, meet Dustin Ackley. Dustin Ackley, meet Seattle Mariners.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope you're not too fond of winning Dustin
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
that division is so bad right now, the Mariners could turn it around quickly.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad but true
Do you know where the Seattle farm system ranks?
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not off the top of my head
They were a top system, then they traded everyone to Baltimore for Bedard and have let Jeff Clement rot in the minors.
Middle of the pack, I guess.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it possible they become sellers this year though
I know I’ve heard Beltre’s name mentioned not sure who else could be available
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obvious pick is obvious.
He’s the best bat in the draft and the Mariners have been hard after him for awhile.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. And Seattle desperately needs an impact bat in their system.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pirates have a pre-draft deal
in place with with Sanchez
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now for the first drama
Do the Padres chose Donovan Tate?
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Pads
should really take Matzek, but I don’t think it happens
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Pads
If they don’t take Tate, they sure aren’t taking someone with signability concerns.
If they take someone like Minor or Leake, this draft will go flying out the window.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good pick, IMO. So athletic.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pads take Tate
laaaaaaaaaaaame
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What ever are you talking about????
Harold Reynolds said that the Padres are boring and Tate is exciting! He must be right!!
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the idiot sitting next to him
also thought Trout was in the mix for #2, and that Matzek threw in the upper-90’s
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tate to Padres
No surprises yet. And the Pirates will take Sanchez.
Everything is going per the board so far.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The TV/online broadcast is pathetic...
The broadcast of this draft is yet another embarrassment for MLB. The first round of the draft used to be done in about 5 minutes. This time-filling, three minutes a pick thing is just stupid. Some events are just not made for TV, and the MLB draft is one of them.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Then don't watch
I never got that argument. Yes, they’re filling time so they can sell commercials. But if you don’t like it, don’t watch.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the point, Josh...
There is no reason that it needs to take so long. Three minutes per pick? Why? The NBA and NFL drafts are worth televising for two reasons:
1. The top picks might make an immediate impact on their team.
2. Teams can trade picks for players and move around in the draft, creating the potential for drama.
Baseball has neither of those things. These draftees will disappear for a year or three in the minors. There are no trades. There is no drama, just Mel Kuiper Jr.-esque babble. It is boring.
I am watching because I want to know who is picked (in part because I know a young man who might go in the first three rounds), but I feel like I being held hostage by marketing.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be boring
And I know it used to take half an hour. Yes, they’re trying to sell commercials. They’re a business.
But if you just want to know who gets picked and where, you can follow on line with the on-line draft tracker. It will just announce the players with no video.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and it would still take 3 minutes or more a pick...
That is the big problem. They don’t need all this time. So, yeah, I could be watching the draft tracker online and it would still take three hours to do what should take just a few minutes. 45 minutes in, they should be into the third round by now.
Look at the team official sitting in the room there. There is nothing for them to to do. This is a case of MLB trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
So I’ll ask you a question. Why is this format necessary? What does it add to the process?
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you could have
pretended the draft is tomorrow instead of today and scanned the list of all the players drafted in less than 10 minutes tomorrow
by bheidge on Jun 9, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It can work...
But they need to copy the NBA/NFL formula. Get some compelling personalities on TV with a few guys who actually know what they’re talking about. Do it in front of a live studio audience. Invite a bunch of the picks and let some of the potential picks sit in the audience. Have an open bar for even more raucous fun.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last thing we need
are a bunch of drunk New Yorkers chanting M-E-T-S METS METS METS.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Agreed.
Chicago Cubs > Milwaukee Brewers
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh admit it
You’d take great joy in seeing the Mets fans getting excited for a certain player, and then watch them recoil in horror as the Mets take a guy who was rated as a 4th rounder. :)
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a catcher? a CATCHER?
we needed a third baseman! gah!! (look of disgust)
by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Vitters at the draft when he was selected?
I thought I remembered him walking up after his name was called at the Wide World of Sports
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
That was the first televised draft. They cut that out.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine it would have been tough this year
they would have invited the whole projected first round because nobody knows who will go where unlike most years
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest problem
was that most of the top draft picks were playing in the Super Regionals of the CWS and couldn’t be there.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should have worked this year
with the next games not being till Friday
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jorge?
Just call him Tony
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Pollock!!
His ultimate upside is a Reed Johnson type!! That’s not worth a 1st round pick!! Please, no Pollock or Jackson!! Shoot for the moon and take a guy with a future, no more Tyler Colvins!!!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Ackley is gone
So the list of potential superstar hitters is now zero.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need some more Jim Callis
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hobgood to the O's
big fan. Should have taken Matzek
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My wife interviewed
for a job at Hobgood’s HS. She had two interviews and didn’t get the job.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My co-worker has two kids who go to Norco HS...
… but they are band kids.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Matzek have "signability issues?"
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Not as bad as some other guys in this draft, but he wants to get paid in a big way.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say worse
He wants more than Porcello.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Someone told me earlier that Purke and Turner wanted more money than Matzek.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
people say that
about every HS player
it just means he won’t sign for slot
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the slot system a joke anyway?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very much so
Got worse when they arbitrarily decreased slot for this year
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wheeler to the Giants
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Still according to book
to use a chess term.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want a real snoozer
You should be following the MLB draft on Twitter.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What, look at the great insights!
“As each player is selected, a member of the A’s scouting staff takes their names off The Board.
OaklandAs.”
And then …
“Just to clarify, “The Board” is actually 7 big white boards which box in the tables…each with about 50 names of prospects."
Thank god for Twitter.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really Harold, teams want guys who can pitch?
I thought they wanted guys who could sink a 15 foot J? I never would have guessed that!
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love when the guys say
“Forget the numbers, this guy can pitch/hit/field/play.” Um, no…it’s baseball. I’m not going to just forget the numbers.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
They said Minor pitches in the mid-90s.
He tops out at 91 and mostly throws in the upper 80s.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ridiculous!
they said that about Matzek too. idiots.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did they say about Matzek?
He does operate 92-96 and hit 99 last week.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They said "high-90's"
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has been 90-93 all year
where did you get 99?
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a question:
In the MLB draft, should you draft “need” or “best available?”
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Best available
with the caveat that he’s the best available who you can sign.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leake to the Reds
Pretty good pick.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love Leake
Al told me that “Deep Goat” said the Cubs were hot on Leake. I told Al that if Leake was still available when the Cubs picked at #31, I’d eat my shoes.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right for Wilken
He doesn’t mind size for his pitchers. Tim Lincecum was #1 on his board in 2006. Jarrod Parker was #3 in 2007 (after Price and Vitters).
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sonny Gray last year
I know there was no chance he signed but he’s another small pitcher
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs would have loved to get Leake.
They knew that at #31, that was probably a pipedream. Good selection by the Reds.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 9, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not happy
that Leake is going to be pitching in the NL Central.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least its a hitter's park.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacob Turner to DET
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes
the thought that Turner would fall to us on signability issues.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
Might as well keep up hope on Matzek, Purke, or Miller.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke probably will fall to us
But he’s not worth what he’s asking for. I suppose we could draft him and get another pick next year.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How exactly does that work?
Would the Cubs get the 31st pick next year, or is it a supplemental?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
It might be the 31st pick if the Cubs are the only team who doesn’t sign their pick out of this year’s draft. I could be mistaken on that, though.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'd get
the #32 pick—or maybe a few picks later if teams before us don’t sign their pick
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks everyone
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah my bad
didnt think about picks before us possibly not signing
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Argh!
That was one signability guy the Cubs were linked to.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep...but DET doesn't have that problem (see Porcello)
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they do in a sense
Because Matzek rates better than Turner.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Storen to the Nats
if all the rumors are correct.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it is...good call
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now it gets interesting
Do the Rockies take Tim Wheeler or Pollock or one of the guys we want?
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say it but I hope they take Pollock
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they will
But the D-Backs could take him at #16 or #17.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex White
The Rockies loves them some college pitching.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA's blog said pitcher
And they nailed everyone but Alex White at 8.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Jonathan Mayo
makes an appearance. He’s being wasted here.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Matzek to the Rockies
So he doesn’t fall any farther.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Matzek to the Rockies
surprised, but like it for them
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Matzek to the Rockies
They better be ready to pony up.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They'll offer him
Matt Harrington’s contract.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any rumor on why...
Alex White has fallen?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He had a couple of terrible starts
although his last one was great. Top that off with his salary demands and he’s dropping.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish they had limitations on the bonus demands...
1) It’s ridiculous that a guy who has never played a game is asking for multi millions;
2) It would make the whole draft much more interesting if any team could draft any guy based off of talent.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has control problems
But no one has mentioned anything about bonus demands or injury problems.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
I hope MLB dispenses with these player interviews (or at least interviewing HS’s). Some of them have been painful…
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've discovered
that young baseball players are not usually the most articulate people in the world.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
I’ve never been one of those people who takes pleasure in watching people struggle, so I’m sitting here cringing and hoping that the kid makes it throug without saying something embarressing.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After Hochevar
It’s not totally unexpected.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's not
is Crow represented by Boras?
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant Green
to Oakland?
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Green to the Athletics
so Green will be wearing green.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grant Green to OAK
To that, I say meh.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grant Green to OAK
Thoughts?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that they call him a 5-tool player
and then say he’s average in all 5 tools…
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
If he can go back to what made him a great player his sophomore year, the A’s would have a fantastic player on their hands.
However, I’m leery of hyped up guys who regress.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is pretty funny...
I think from now on I’ll refer to myself as a former 5-tool player.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant Green to Oakland!
(Everyone else said it; figured I should too) :-p
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here, I'll say it again.
Grant Green to Oakland!
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shelby Miller seems the obvious choice for TX
Despite heightened bonus demands.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really surprised on that one
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke won't fall to us
Teams are daring the signability players to not sign.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The rate this is going
The Cubs game will be over when they get to pick
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good news
as the Indians were rumored to take Arnett. White falling to CLE increases our chances of getting him.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably not
I think the White Sox take him at #23 if he gets that far.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pollock
could go to the D-Backs at #16 or #17.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a strange comment by Matzek in that interview.
Asked if he would miss batting, since he was drafted as a pitcher by the Rockies, he said “Well, [the University of] Oregon has told me that I’ll get to play first base, so….[pause] we’ll see what Colorado has to say about it.”
I guess I get what he was trying to say, but….
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know what he was trying to say
“I like money.”
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they give you a microphone
say what you want to say
by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Borchering
to the D-Backs. I think they go pitching here now.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pollack is gone
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget about Pollock
that will make some of you happy. He goes to the D-Backs.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Shelby Miller doesn't make it to St Louis
Come on, Florida.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Jackson might be gone by #31
Since Purke is gone, I think the Yanks take Jackson
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees are hot on
Renfroe or Heathcott
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they won't take Renfroe in the 1st
Heathcott probably is the likely pick. Not a fan of Heathcott either. Big time mechanical issues
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
James gone
to Florida
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked him
Pretty good pick by the Marlins. They’re good at developing their prep pitchers.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there goes James
Will any of our profiled players make it to us?
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to feel like an idiot
if they don’t
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping he'd drop to the Cubs
But knew he’d go here. Classic Marlins pick.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Cardinals "pass"
ala the Seahawks in the NFL draft a couple years ago.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do the Cardinals finally grab Gibson?
If they don’t, I think he slides out of the first round—maybe we take him.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure the redbirds taking a hurt pitcher
would go over well on their board
by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller to the Cards
I think we’re going to have a shot at Gibson now. But did we do enough scouting on him to feel comfortable picking him? Until last week, I doubt the Cubs paid any attention to him, figuring he’d be long gone.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They'll have done their due diligence
They even checked out Starsburg.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere...
but does anyone know what percentage of players drafted actually sign with their team? (As opposed to going to college, being a tool about money, etc.)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It depends
On the round they’re drafted. Lower round guys are less likely to sign obviously.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking overall or first round?
Most of the first round picks sign—usually one or two exceptions. Most of the guys taken later in the draft (like after the 35th round) don’t, depending on whether they have other options.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense.
Thanks. (I was mostly talking about the first couple rounds).
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Shawon...
reminding us why the Cubs drafted you over Dwight Gooden…thanks for that.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice...
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why indeed, Shawon... why indeed....
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shawon Dunston...
has about the moth soothing voice in the world. He’s like Bob Ross….
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller
Great ceiling, but holy heck is the guy raw. The Cardinals better be ready to be patient with him.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Astros
continue to stockpile their system with crap. Don’t think Mier will hit at all
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ooh
First out of the blue pick. I had heard some talk the Angels might take him. Mier goes to the Astros at #21.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Alex White just converted to Judaism on the MLB Network.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Harold Reynolds
asked him how he felt on becoming a member of the tribe. “Member of the Tribe” is a slang term for being a Jew.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
Sorry I’m slow. I didn’t make the connectinon. :)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harold Reynolds is an embarassment...
The man needs a muzzle.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It really isn't pretty
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Gibson a Twin
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great pick
He’ll recover from his injury and be back to full strength next season.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gibson off the board
damn
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He slid pretty far
just not all the way to us. The Twins kind of surprise me though.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schleppers
could fall to us now. Want to take the chance?
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Arnett, Scheppers, Wheeler and Mitchell are still available. Even some very intriguing HS bats (Everett Williams, Mike Trout).
Of course Brett Jackson is available too. :(
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So Josh/MJMars....
What are the Cubs looking at right now?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Arnett is still there
him, Jackson, Gould are the top 3
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arnett, Wheeler, Jackson
I think they hope Arnett falls.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
throw Wheeler in there
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really good pick
for them
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any chance he'll get drafted in the NFL?
or is he all baseball?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's all baseball
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst kept secret
The Angels take Mike Trout with one of their two picks here.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Skaggs
with the other.
Actually they could take Everett Williams
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers with the other
Apparently their medical staff cleared him
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because we all know
what the Angels need is more pitching. :-)
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't the cubs
have their ntural first round pick?
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They do...they had the 2nd best record last year
hence the 2nd to last pick…
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prospectus was right
The Angels take Grichuk. If they’re still right, they go with Trout now.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could somebody please tell Midwest Bud...
… that it is not pronounced “Los An-jel-leez”. God, what a hayseed.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Somebody who lives here, jackass.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious that something like this would bother anyone. Be sure to email mlb and let them know of your concern.
by AzCubfan24 on Jun 9, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious that you would take the time to rip me for ripping Small-market Bud...
… I know he and MLB don’t give a damn. After all, it is something that concerns a fan.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Scheppers
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW
shocked on that one
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oooohhhhh
Skaggs is still available. I would LOVE for the Cubs to take him. Didn’t think he would get passed the Angels
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers are one team
who could take Jackson. Then Yankees might too.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know though
that Jackson wants to play for the Cubs really badly.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hope he's better than the last Jackson (Danny)
that played for the Cubs really badly…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which of the CFers just started learning to switch-hit
I forgot who it was but I think it might have been Trout now that I think about it so this question is irrelevant
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-0 Cubs! Fuku drives in Sori
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh damn! Forgot the game was on! Thanks
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh calls it
Arnett gone
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well at least...
that beautiful “CHC” is finally on the ticker there….We’ll get an answer soon. :)
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You didn't see...
Soriano’s double did you? My gameday says that he “doubled to shortstop Miguel Tejada”…he must really have been hauling :) Was wondering what happened.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Hoping for Scheppers. Or maybe Wheeler, Gould or Everett Williams.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shocker, Bradley Ks looking
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great pick
love Franklin
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nick Franklin
to the Mariners. They wanted Pollock and Arnett too.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Max Stassi
has been rumored as going to the BoSox for quite a while now.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This just in
The Mariners selected a baseball player!!
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Wilken wants a LHP like he said
Rex Brothers will likely be available.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brothers
Scares the daylights out of me. He’s had horrific control problems.
However, he has a fantastic arm. He’d be a risky pick, but a fascinating one.
Andy Oliver is still out there, too.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just take Renfroe
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3-0 Cubs
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love Scheppers
but a voice in the back of my head is whispering “Bobby Brownlie, Bobby Brownlie.”
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Shafer
Already has that covered.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but Shafer
wasn’t a first round pick.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PERDICTIONS CALL IT OUT
im going with Wheeler from Sacramento state
by BelieveinBlue2314 on Jun 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy Oliver
Been awhile since we’ve seen a Boras client.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOH
Fuentes had more helium under him for the past week. And the BoSox pass on Stassi.
Not that we would have taken either.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rex Brothers
is unbelievably still out there.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No
and he wasn’t asking for a mint, either.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do we take him if he's available? or Scheppers?
by cubfan1982 on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Brothers
because of that injury voice in my head.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin
Damn the Mariners. I will never drink a Starbucks again.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
by tharr on Jun 9, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Jackson!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but but
Heathcott is going to pitch, why did they ignore this?
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well not necessarily
but there is a decent chance
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure
Tampa won’t take Jackson.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Brothers now
I never dreamed he’d still be here. Baseball America had him at #9 this morning.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
eeek
I think he is a reliever.
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His BB and HBP numbers are insane
I love his pure stuff, but a lefty with horrible control problems? Scary! Scary!
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that the Cubs are officially on the clock?
Who do you think they’ll take?
Who do you want them to take?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK Josh, make the call...
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one of them toolsy OF guys
Gets comps to Damon
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, Bud
Washington is an OF, not 2b
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The teams generally submit the position they want the player to be listed at...
… that said, it wouldn’t shock me that Bud was wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rays list him
as what they want him listed as. Unless Bud read 2B as OF.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brothers sounds good
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
by zambranofan on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're not going to like it
but I think it’s Jackson.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do you dislike Jackson?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strikes out too much
But he does have some upside.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
power is fringy, too
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we don't take Wheeler now do we?
no Jackson….
by cubfan1982 on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Earl Cunningham, Ty Griffin, ... and...
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly just got a triple.
This is a good omen for the draft.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the outfielder die?
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson
Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"
by zambranofan on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For what its worth, Harold has a man crush on him
by AzCubfan24 on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if these moron's like the pick
then we should know its a bad one
churchofbaseball.com
by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha...sigh.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Ducks from Interwebs explosion*
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
here is to hoping we take good picks in the later rounds
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do we all hate him?
Besides the fact that Harold likes him?
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally gutless
We must have no money to spend
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the pick of Jackson
A college position player. Somebody maybe to keep Josh Vitters company as the only viable major league prospect in this system.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He can't hit!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you post the full blown analysis of Jackson?
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't hit...
There is a difference.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't hit with aluminum bats
That’s kind of important.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me be the voice of (semi) reason...
He won’t be up until 2011 at the VERY earliest…let’s wait and see what happens either way.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the good news on Jackson
He’s going to sign. He wanted desperately to be a Cub.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that can be good for him
He will work harder to improve his game that many people don’t like right now.
"The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love." ~Bryant Gumbel
by gwl17 on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of looks like a taller Sam Fuld.
Ladies and gentlemen! It's 1985 all over again, but this time the offense goes to hell!
by Ross on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
J.D. Drew
physically
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we make him hit like Drew?
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
drew had a much better bat though
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way better!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano
without the power
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
by tharr on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or speed
but seriously, Soriano is not a good comp.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson has good speed
He’s a leadoff hitter with high K and low BB, excellent arm, projected as a corner OF. Sori is a pretty decent comp.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
by tharr on Jun 9, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Jim Callis like Jackson?
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So are we sayin' that this pick is shades of Wilken's reach pick of Tyler Colvin in 2006?
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, another AA .250 hitter!
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
by Itchy on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a reach
as every team had him going late in the first round. But he could be Tyler Colvin, yes. But he’s the upside guy you wanted.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I want is some major league projectable position players in this system
And yes, my bias is to go with collegiate players given the current status of the Cub organization and the win-now mode we are in. You can’t keep spending horrendous sums in free agency every year.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference being
Jackson was considered a first round talent, but seem pretty damn similar to me
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are they doing the comp. round
on the TV?
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
JD Drew would sort of be the ceiling for Jackson. If he turns into Drew, that would be great. But the odds are long he becomes JD Drew.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that sounds better
except that he’s better defensively—potentially.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is nothing about Jackson
that relates to Swisher
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what Kevin Goldstein said
“Cubs take Brett Jackson from Cal, who seemed to be in the mix for every team in the 20s. He’s either a star or the next Tyler Colvin. That’s really the range here as a risk/upside college guy.”
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
colvin wasn't really considered a cf candidate
was he?
jackson could be, no?
by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All I know is that Colvin can be chalked up yet as yet another bust
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only consider players busts when they are picked in the top 10
And they don’t pan out.
by swimfan on Jun 9, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any data on his eye?
How’s his OPS?
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jun 9, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
had 28 walks
forget what the OBP was, check yesterdays post.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like
a .900+ OPS shouldn’t be considered “never hit”
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
people are being too harsh. He’s not bad. But the number of Ks is worrisome. Other than that, he’s fine although hardly a potential superstar. But neither was Tim Wheeler who people around here wanted us to take.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it sounds like
if he makes contact at a better rate, he’ll likely be a pretty decent player
he took walks which is something colvin never did, seems like a bit better player than colvin a bit less projection in terms of power though
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a big "if" though...
if he’s struggling with Ks in college, expecting better contact in the pros might be asking a LOT.
by SouthernCub on Jun 9, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with the rest of it though...
aside from the low contact rate (which is a concern), he does walk a more than Colvin, and appears to have similar (but slightly less) power. Similar speed?
Then again, perhaps comparing him to Colvin isn’t a great thing?
by SouthernCub on Jun 9, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not worried about power
Baseball is making the shift back to how the game was played in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Maybe it’s the post-steroid era taking hold. But all I know is that power isn’t the biggest consideration I would be looking at. Can the kid hit, and can hit execute with the bat. Those are the things of most concern. If he can do those things I could care less if he is 15 HR type player.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little messed up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
by BLou on Jun 9, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it hasn't
but again i’d rather have a guy who struggles to make contact but has been productive than a guy who struggles to walk
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its college
striking out 28% of the time.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably a little above
very few guys will sign for slot since MLB decreased them for this year, but he doesn’t have big bonus demands reported.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he sign?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like the pick
If we didn’t have a guy like Colvin, we’d be a lot more excited about this pick.
by swimfan on Jun 9, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
David Renfroe
During the long wait for pick #79, I have a question for those of you who pay far more attention to the draft and the available players. Is the hype surrounding Renfroe due to rumors that the Yankees would take him and pay him above slot (a/t the NY Post, he wants $3m) or is it because he is the son of (the real) Laddie Renfroe?
"I'd rather play baseball than eat." - Andy Pafko
by LaddieRenfroe on Jun 9, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably Laddie
He is very talented though. I would take him if I had a supp. pick. Prefer him as a SS actually and like him better than Mier.
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs take
LaMahieu, infielder from LSU.
Can’t play short, not great great at 2b. Long swing.
my anger continues
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess i haffa watch the
college world series after all
by tim815 on Jun 9, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is
Tim Wilken’s mantra
he’ll draft 2B/SS/CF/C and SP’s, he rarely drafts Corner players
by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 9, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We want Max Stassi
Get Peavy already! I want my #44 jersey!
by Cub Style on Jun 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell happened to him?
I’m back after dinner. He hasn’t been drafted? I guess once he slid out of the first round, he wasn’t willing to sign for less.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
must be it
I was surprised the BoSox passed on him
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Goldstein
says he has no clue why Stassi fell so far.
by Josh77 on Jun 9, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just stopping in to say
Why take a CF when we all know how that works out for the Cubs?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Jun 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs 3rd Round Pick
LHP Austin Kirk
"The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love." ~Bryant Gumbel
by gwl17 on Jun 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
may be the best pick today
high school left-hander 88-91 with advanced change
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaMahieu
Given his size, I wonder if he can eventually grow power-wise into a 3B.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Top Available - per BA
30. Max Stassi, c, Yuba City (Calif.) HS
38. Sam Dyson, rhp, South Carolina
41. Zack Von Rosenbuerg, rhp, Zachary (La.) HS
43. Brody Colvin, rhp, More HS, Lafayette, La.
45. Madison Younginer, rhp, Mauldin (S.C.) HS
47. Keyvius Sampson, rhp, Forest HS, Ocala, Fla.
55. Chris Dwyer, lhp, Clemson
59. Jeff Malm, 1b, Bishop Gorman HS, Las Vegas
60. A.J. Morris, rhp, Kansas State
62. Jason Stoffel, rhp, Arizona
63. Kent Matthes, of, Alabama
64. Angelo Songco, of, Loyola Marymount
65. Brian Goodwin, of, Rocky Mount (N.C.) HS
68. Dane Williams, rhp, Archbishop McCarthy HS, SW Ranches, Fla.
74. Jacob Stewart, of, Rocky Moutain HS, Fort Collins, Colo.
80. Ryan Jackson, ss, Miami
81. Austin Maddox, c, Eagle’s View Academy, Jacksonville, Fla.
82. Brooks Raley, lhp/of, Texas A&M
83. Andrew Doyle, rhp, Oklahoma
90. Ryan Buch, rhp, Monmouth
92. Kendal Volz, rhp, Baylor
94. Matt den Dekker, of, Florida
96. Luke Bailey, c, Troup HS, LaGrange, Ga.
by Raisin on Jun 9, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprised Stassi fell like this
Von Rosenberg is my favorite of that group. Three very strong pitches for a HS arm, surprised he didnt go in the 2nd
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by MJMars on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else notice
that Cubs first pick Brett Jackson was born the week the lights went on at Wrigley (he was born 8-2-88)?
I can’t guarantee this means he’ll end up being the best Cub of the modern era, but I can’t guarantee he won’t either.
DEJESUS!!!
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