What do we do? C - Jake Fox?
Hey all,
TheRiot4Life's fanshot the other day on Jake Fox at new positions got me thinking....
I don't know about anyone else but I feel like after watching tonights game, maybe we need to think about starting Jake Fox at catcher in the Washington series after the break.
Yeah, he's had limited experience at the plate, but I don't know if this team should start out the 2nd half of the season with good ol' Koyie Hill. Sure, the guy's a great story but he's a below average offensive guy at-best, with above average defense--one of the main reasons he is on this roster.
There will be the argument "whatever we get from out catcher, especially Koyie, is an added bonus". Well the way this team has played offensively, we need all the help we can get. Geovany's injury hurts that much more because of the way his bat was starting to come around--driving the ball with authority, plus, his defense was improving also.
So the question is: Is it worth risking a little defensive prowess (Will there be THAT much of a noticeable difference?) at the catcher's position to get Jake's bat in the lineup? There doesn't seem to be any FA catcher available that would be of better help than what we have in Koyie or any minor leaguer we bring up. Plus, we sure as hell shouldn't be trading for one at this juncture. Another thing that might need to be taken in to consideration is that if Jake DOES begin to catch on a regular basis, would his offense begin to suffer?
What's your take? Eh?
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If we can put Sean Marshall in LF
Fox can catch a game.
And it goes to show Lou might consider doing what it takes second half to win a game.
by ak123 on Jul 12, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't believe it.....
"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry
by EJThunder on Jul 12, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to run an errand and DVR the game
Whenever I DVR a game I always FF through the Cubs pitching and watch them at-bat. When I saw Lou walk out there and pull this I Rewound it three times. I didn’t know to be in shock or laugh. But hey, this is the sort of thing I want to see Lou doing. It might have been strange, very unconventional but it worked.
by ak123 on Jul 12, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the bases weren't loaded....
I would like to have seen what would happen if Ryan (was it??) hit it toward him.
"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry
by EJThunder on Jul 12, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just as much of a chance
of him catching as Milton Bradley does every time in RF :)
by ak123 on Jul 12, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and you know
That 1/3 inning switch is going to prompt at least 2 posts on here asking why Fox can’t be moved to 2B. And you know what? They’re right. If Lou is willing to try that in a must win situation, there isn’t harm is putting Fox at 2B for atleast an inning. What’s the worse that can happen? We lose another game?
by ak123 on Jul 12, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or why not pitch Fox for an inning
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jul 13, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked remarkable comfortable at catcher
i was impressed.
as lou might say, he looked really “catcherish”.
I don’t have any problems spotting Koyie with Jake while Soto heals. He struggles… just put Koyie back in.
Anything that keeps Bam-Bam’s bat in the line up is golden with me.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
by Allie on Jul 12, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was happy to see him look so comfortable.
But I was also happy to see Hill do pretty good in game 2 after that many innings over the last few days
by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 12, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Jake Fox could catch
they never would have moved him off of catcher in the minors.
Fox is an emergency catcher only. I’d expect to see Chris Robinson promoted from Iowa after the All-Star break. Or maybe they promote Clevenger, but I think Robinson is more likely.
by Josh77 on Jul 13, 2009 2:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
of course
“they” said the same thing about his 3b abilities.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 13, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and corner OF ability
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jul 13, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
his ability to do heart surgery. He’s not Jake Fox, he’s Buckaroo Banzai, and he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 13, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe he's MacGyver.
“Gimme a safety pin, some duct tape and a wad of used chewing gum!”
Works feverishly.
“I am now a major league catcher!”
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 13, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox catching
Fox had to catch a couple of games in the minors this season. On May 18, he caught against Salt Lake and had two passed ball and two stolen bases off of him. He did throw out one runner trying to steal third, but that was a slow first baseman going on a busted hit-and-run play.
by Josh77 on Jul 13, 2009 2:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you are talking Jake spotting Koyie
by maybe starting a game and being a late inning switch guy, I could see the Cubs ponder that. They can live with Jake for part of a game. I don’t see them ever giving him 2 starts in a series, though. He never showed the instincts as a receiver, despite decent athleticism. Furthermore, his bat was inconsistent when he was a receiver.
AzPhil over at TCR has suggested that Chris Robinson will get called up. I could see that, but I could also see Clevenger and maybe a darkhorse of Welington Castillo. Castillo’s had some ridiculously poor luck offensively this year, and at the end of the day, you gotta improve. But most reports suggest his defensive consistency has improved. I know Jake fancies himself a catcher, but as anything regular (which 2 games in a series would be), don’t see it.
My honest guess? They’ll tell Robinson to fly up, but they won’t actually call him up. They’ll give Koyie a twirl with Jake as the emergency catcher. If something happens, they’d activate Robinson the next day.
by toonsterwu on Jul 13, 2009 3:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Robinson won't be called up.
The Cubs are working on a deal to acquire a major league catcher. I hope that happens.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 13, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But I cannot say.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 13, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet its miguel loivo
or yorvit torrealba.. the atter would drive santo nuts
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on Jul 13, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and update on it
even without a name, is it in the works, has it fallen off, come on Al, Enquiring Minds Want to Know
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Jul 13, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't have any info other than...
… I heard this rumor yesterday, it was being discussed and worked on. I have no new info today.
I cannot reveal names. I do think if it happens we’ll all be happy.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Jul 13, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just hope...
…it’s not Michael Barrett!!!
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Jul 13, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
two words
nyjer morgan. he’s not that good, but he’s fast. just what the cubs need is a bloop hit leading to a runner on third and none out in the first inning.
i wish jake the best at the plate or in the field. i wish our second basemen/shortstops/catchers were two years more developed in the minors.
by tim815 on Jul 13, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fox should be showcased as much as possible
So we can get as many AL prospects as possible.
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by Worf on Jul 13, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fox did pretty well
last night catching. I think he can do it.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 13, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What are your thoughts on VMart?
Sounds like Indians are having internal discussions about possibly trading him.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on Jul 13, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake Fox vs. Lloyd McClendon
Fox is a solid #3 catcher, whom you wouldn’t mind putting into a game for an inning when the other team has 6-7-8-9 coming up. Those of us who remember 1989 remember lumbering Lloyd, who was the same kind of catcher.
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by Invalid User on Jul 13, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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