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Pretty cool 3-d animation video released by the Marlins and Populous yesterday.

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That is cool, thanks for posting it.

I can’t believe a new stadium is going to help their attendence.

It looks a lot like Miller. Did I see that the windows in the outfield could be moved?

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Jul 19, 2009 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool stadium

I hear it seats like 35k… I’m sure the first homestand will be all sellouts, and then they’ll sit around 50% capacity for a few months until they hit sub 10k.

I think it’s ironic they use the “theme” from Transformers for that stadium… I thought maybe it was going to transform into a robot and start walking around with all those moving parts. Hopefully that roof closes in under a minute, because that’s the typical window for a Miami rainshower to pop up.

by lswaidz on Jul 19, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll draw better because they have the roof.

A lot of people don’t go now because of the huge number of rain delays.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Jul 19, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention

90+ degree weather CONSISTENTLY

as someone who lives 15 mins from the stadium, the violent weather both in terms of rain and heat often keeps me on my couch with the directv remote in my hand instead of sweating through a game guzzling $6 waters just to stay conscious

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 19, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone see new Twins model

Maybe it’s just me but did they install “rooftop” bleachers in the park?

The model they had on mlb.com a few weeks looked like it.

by ak123 on Jul 19, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It should be Mandatory

That all new Ballparks have a retractable roof. That’s one awesome looking stadium.

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 19, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would Oakland...

who’s trying to get a new one, or San Diego, who opened one this decade, need a roof of any kind?

by bison on Jul 19, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because there's just too much money involved in these stadiums

Involved for any kinda weather related things to postpone or cancel a function!

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a whole...

The 5 California teams average well under 1 rainout per season. Hardly worth the extra 200 Million or so.

San Francisco, though often foggy and cool, has had 34 rainouts in 51 seasons. San Diego is under 20 in 40 years. It makes no sense out here. In Florida, it makes perfect sense.

Minnesota is going to wish they had one after a couple of years.

by bison on Jul 19, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's no reason to mandate something.

If it makes economic sense for a roof to be put on a stadium, then a roof will be put on the stadium and there’s no reason to make it mandatory.

As it’s half-on-topic, I should mention that when I lived in Santa Clara (about 50 miles from Oakland), from the day I first moved there (June 1, 2006), there were four straight months of warm, sunny weather. The first day of rain was October 2. If people only lived there in the summer they wouldn’t have to build roofs on their houses. The other side of this is that from November through maybe February it seems to rain heavily for weeks at a time. If they wanted a stadium they could use for events during those months they might do well to build something with a roof; I’m sure their decision will be influenced by the existing supply of indoor arenas and how much money they can get a hold of immediately.

by aldimond on Jul 20, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if you get there by 2015

You’ll be one of the first 100,000 to ever enter the park.

by ak123 on Jul 19, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lmao

Go Cubs Go!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it'll bring in more revenue for them

they already do an amazing job competing as is, so add a bit more money and the ever present ability to fleece Jim Hendry, and they might have a winner

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 19, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they've already had a winner

twice in the last 12 years.

i’d say they do a pretty good job even without a new stadium

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 19, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well a consistent winner than

rather than winning the WS with a firesale the next season

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 19, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there wasn't a firesale after 03

other than moving DLee for a younger player they thought would be more productive they didn’t really lose anyone

then the next year they went out and signed Delgado to a big FA deal….

this ownership group gets a bad rap

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 19, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they let go of Beckett, Burnett, Lowell, Pierre

it may not have been immediate, but he had the same effects as the post-97 sale

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 20, 2009 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as someone who lives in the market

i don’t agree at all

beckett, burnett, lowell, pierre were all on the team in 2004 and 2005, that’s TWO years of keeping that same group together AND ADDING a big name FA in Carlos Delgado to the mix

1998 was a firesale, the core of the 2003 team was largely held together for 2 additional years (in which they had late season falls out of the wild card) to contend

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 20, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got me there

I think the general sentiment is that a new stadium wont magically turn south florida into a viable professional baseball market. My point was if it brings in more revenue, they might be buyers more often than sellers

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jul 20, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As someone who lives in the market...

Do you think a move to the former Orange Bowl site will add enough fans from Dade County to offset any they might lose from Broward and Palm Counties? Once the nw stadium smell wears off, will people still come?

I haven’t lived in the area in many years, but I recall the Orange Bowl as being difficult to get to and not handling a crowd very well; though a Marlins crowd will be perhaps half of what UM drew. There isn’t any mass transit access to speak of. Is this going to work?

by bison on Jul 21, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its a ripe debate

The Marlins claim the following:

1) the new stadium is just 10-15 mins south on I95 of the current stadium (i’m not sure i believe this claim but that’s there claim)
2) They’re going to have an enormous parking garage built on the site and are working in advance on planning quick exit strategies to the appropriate northbound and southbound highways. I.E. having people park in one garage for southbound exit and the other garage for northbound exit

Those are the reasons they think its going to work. Will it? I don’t know. There are so many transplants from down here (like myself) that have their affiliations already. In general the city is a VERY fair-weather sports town and doesn’t really have a big contingent of “die-hard” fans, so its going to be tough.

I guess we’ll find out. I will say though if it doesn’t work, I don’t think baseball down here will ever work. This is as good of an attempt as they’ve ever made down here and given its been 10+ years in the making, they’ve really thought about a lot of the issues well in advance

by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 24, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't do a firesale

And you’ll get fans to stay.

by ak123 on Jul 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well at least

This will stop all the rain postponements and delays in Miami. It’s silly to have an open-roofed stadium there.

by hmlee on Jul 19, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a very slick video...

…better than anything I’ve seen from other teams in recent years. The roof will really help attendance, eliminating the risk of getting drenched as well as the ungodly heat/humidity and thus the likelihood of a miserable experience. I don’t know which existing stadium I’d compare it to…I’ve never been to the parks in Phoenix and Houston, but it seems smaller than the retractable-roof stadiums in Milwaukee and Seattle – that’s a good thing because both of those places, while nice enough, are kind of forbidding in their vastness. I also like the light, airy tone of the place, which seems in line with some of the more distinctive architecture in Miami, although, with the roof closed, the video images of the exterior make it look a bit like the Astrodome painted white.

I hope Tampa can get started on their proposed design. Last I heard, they were having trouble with the financing even though the Rays were proposing to finance a fairly large chunk of it with private money. Some of that private money may have dried up too, but I haven’t followed it. The design was staggering and, considering the site (using the footprint of the Rays’ old spring training field which is, literally, right on the Bay), it looked like we might get another gem to go along with Pittsburgh and SF among the very best new parks.

"I'd rather play baseball than eat." - Andy Pafko

by LaddieRenfroe on Jul 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally

Good to see the Marlins finally getting a much needed and long overdue new ballpark. Looks good, though I could do without those blue seats. But I guess it is southern Florida. I’d go with Marlin teal as the color for those seats.

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jul 20, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I thought that was odd too.

That’s one of those things that I could see tweaked when the actual work gets done.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Jul 20, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or the Miami Marlins

can change their colors….maybe it’s a hint at what’s to come. New stadium, new name. New Logo? New Colors?

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by tony412 on Jul 20, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.

I hate when teams change colors and I think the teal/white/black combo is perfect for a team from Miami. It’s very “South Beach.”

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Jul 20, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marlins already have a great look

Fact of the matter is the Florida Marlins are a model franchise if you can get past the lack of a fanbase. They consistently scout, draft and develop exceptionally. Two World Series titles in the last 12 years about says it all.

And yes, I like the Marlin uniform and color scheme. It’s a keeper.

$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.

by BLou on Jul 20, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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