The First "Big Series" Of The Summer: Cubs vs. Brewers Preview, Thursday 7/2, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jul 2, 2009 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintBy this time a year ago, the Brewers had already played two series at Wrigley Field. Instead, in 2009, the Cubs have played two series in Milwaukee -- splitting the six games -- and welcome the visitors from up I-94 to Chicago for the first time in 2009. The Cubs had the best ERA in the NL in June -- 3.18 -- but, for reasons we are all well familiar with, had their second losing month of the year (yesterday, I posted that it was the first losing month since August 2007, but the Cubs went 10-11 in April 2009). If the bats can get turned on and the pitching remains consistent, wins will follow.
And, though I suppose we shouldn't expect the "old" Aramis Ramirez back right away -- even he says he's not 100% -- he's headed for a rehab assignment starting tomorrow, and:
If all goes well, the plan is to bring him back for the start of the series with the Braves on Monday.
That's ten days earlier than I had hoped he'd be back (right after the All-Star break), and the Cubs can use an A-Ram at even 85-90% of efficiency.
Interesting take from Chris DeLuca on the dynamic between Jim Hendry and Lou Piniella. I wasn't in favor of signing Raul Ibanez last off season; apparently Lou was, but Hendry wasn't:
Piniella's preference on the free-agent market for a left-handed bat was Raul Ibanez. And despite a recent poll suggesting many of today's players would rather avoid working for Piniella, Ibanez was not among them. They know each other well from their days together with the Seattle Mariners, and Ibanez told the Sun-Times last winter he loved playing for Piniella and was interested in the Cubs.
But Hendry focused on Bradley right out of the box and struck a handshake deal with the controversial player in December, though a final deal couldn't be completed until Hendry took care of some payroll shuffling.
This is not to suggest Hendry and Piniella have drifted off the same page, but the dynamic seems to have changed.
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Seth McClung's numbers this year look decent. And his career numbers vs. the Cubs look very good (17.2 innings in 10 relief appearances, 2.55 ERA). And then you look at his career numbers starting (16-24, 5.71 in 50 career starts) and tonight's chances look much better. It would be another good day to sit Alfonso Soriano, who is 1-for-15 lifetime vs. McClung. Kosuke Fukudome is 4-for-6. McClung has never started against the Cubs and he didn't throw too well in his only start so far this year, five days ago vs. the Giants. (And would someone please give him some smile pills?)
Ryan Dempster has faced the Brewers twice already this year, winning on April 12 and losing on May 9. Lifetime he's 8-2, 2.45 vs. Milwaukee and the only one of the Brewers who really pounds him is, strangely enough, Jason Kendall (16-for-43, .419, 3 doubles, 5 walks).
Tonight's game is on CSN Chicago and FSN Wisconsin. For other games today see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Here is where I usually link to the opponent's SBN site. I'm going to do it anyway, even though I know BCB readers haven't been welcomed with open arms at the "other" BCB. Brew Crew Ball.
Overflow comment threads will post today at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CDT.
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No tweets yet from TwitterMeyer and I want to see Sam Fuld tonight!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Hopefully they bring their bats
and Dempster pitch’s more like last year.
Fuld is leading off and playing left tonight!
Soriano, you can't see him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"resting"
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to stick up for my namesake, I kind of liked the pun.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
on the bench
Cubs left fielder Alfonso Soriano, given Wednesday off after going 0 for 7 in the previous two games, is 1 for 15 with six strikeouts against McClung.
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
resting.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
tanks for the jump Sue.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
D'oh, so sorry.
You know in my experience, women don’t mind being called a different name. j/k
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
oh, snap
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh thank goodness for game thread!
that old one was getting really slow
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Aram
Lou had said a few weeks ago on a pregame show with Santo that he wanted him back for the big series before all star break. I just hope he is not rushing because Lou wants him. We’ll find out in a few days.
Let’s start this homestand off right with bats and pitching. Thump ’em!
This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).
Big series is right
Cubs need 3 out of 4. Get on a roll for a bit.
Interesting Lou wanted Ibanez, oh well, we got what we got.
Lets have a good strong start tonight Demp.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
Let's go cubs!
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Maybe the Ibanez...
…info along with the Perry firing will finally get people away from the premise that Hendry has been a hostage to selecting players/coaches his manager wants.
Bruce Miles also wrote about this (Hendry makes his own decisions) sometime ago, so as it should be, the GM is responsible for assembling the roster – good or bad.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
by MPH73 on Jul 2, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Recced. I think this is a valid point.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to know.
I guess I need to gnaw on some crow, thinking that Hendry empowered his managers and did their bidding for the most part.
so when Milton
walks three times, think people will complain?
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure Al will mention it as a bad thing in the recap too.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
you guys need to knock off the Milton Martyrdom Madness....
NOBODY IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS WALKS. The point Al was making was that as the “middle of the order left handed bat”….we were expecting more from him than just taking a lot of walks. Hell, if he’s going to walk so much, bat him 2nd and let our real power hitters (Lee/Ramirez/Fox) drive him in.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
bat him 2nd and let our real power hitters (Lee/Ramirez/Fox) drive him in.
forgot to put theriot as a power hitter :P
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll remember to add him to the list when Lou remembers to play him in his natural position.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
His job
is to score runs. Whether he does that by walking to get on base or by hitting home runs, whenever he doesn’t make an out, that’s doing his job. We were utterly ga-ga over Dome’s ability to walk last season. Now, when suddenly Milton is one of the few Cubs with the patience to draw a walk, he gets flak for it.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the point most are trying to make is.............
walks are good but we paid him $30 million to hit with RISP
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
we're paying him
about $10 million a year to play baseball. That’s what he’s doing. He’s just not batting as well as anyone — himself included — would like.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly my point
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
uh
not really. But whatever.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
What happens when the pitchers don't give you the pitches to do so?
Expand your zone and strike out more?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
It's a lost cause, man.
These are the same folk that wished to DFA lee 2 months ago and put Hoff at first (Consider how that debate looks now!), who blasted Z for an injury incurred while legging out a bunt. Logic and forward thinking are not things you’ll get here in many cases.
Not advocating you give up the battle… your glass half full attitude is an inspiration for us koolaid drinkers everywhere. Just sayin’, you are unlikely to get anywhere with anything other than reactionary blather.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
:D
I know. But I just can’t quit.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Michael would argue that it doesn't matter...
but please do elaborate.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
♫Ebony and Ivory
been together in perfect harmony♪
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
As simply put as I can make it...
Bradley’s offensive performance thus far makes him better suited to hit almost anywhere in the lineup other than 3rd or 4th. His ability to get on base would better serve the team if he wasn’t being put in RBI positions. Most of my disappointment with him stems from the fact that our shortstop has shown as much power as Bradley has so far. I LIKE HIS PATIENCE AT THE PLATE….I only wish some of his AB’s could result in more x-tra base hits instead of BB.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see
him bat 2nd, actually.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, than. We agree.
I was more referring to drew’s will to continue to call out people for hating on Bradley even when he does relatively well. We’d all like him to do BETTER, obviously.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
Hopefully we can milk our OBP....Allie!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Very interesting about Ibanez - I'd forgotten he played for Lou..
That does throw a little water on the “Lou has to deal with the players he asked Hendry to get for him” theory.
Ibanez...
…ain’t having too bad a year either.
If Piniella can do anything, it is judge hitters. The fact he played for him would have been pretty good info to go off of.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I hear what you are saying
But i don’t think anyone could have anticipated Ibanez having the start he has had.
It propably wouldn’t have happened in Chi-town.
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
We'll never know!
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I didn't see his start happening
Not at 37 and after not being very remarkable on a really bad M’s team last year.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
If the issue...
…was truely getting more “left handed”, both Ibanez and Abreu would have been better choices. Bradley has always had more power and been a better hitter from the right side, and when you add in his injury history………
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Abreu would've been alright
I was surprised he didn’t get more of a look.
But I liked the Bradley signing. He’s not a great LH, but he’s a good defender and brings some … swagger. Which is what I thought we needed.
Now if he’d hit… I might even be right.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
me too
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I was a big Ibanez fan in terms of getting him
But I don’t think too many people here can say “I told you so” when it comes to Bradley’s performance. Some folks here can certainly claim his attitude concerned them prior to the signing, but few people on this board predicted or could have predicted he would become impotent at the plate.
No one saw this coming, obviously. The dropoff is mind boggling and it is hard to blame Hendry when a guy just falls off statistically for no apparent reason.
by BeltwayCubsFan on Jul 2, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano too..
And, actually, Miles for that matter (no… he didn’t always suck – career .300 hitter RISP). It’s been a very strange year for the bats. – Kind of like getting “tails” 10 times in a row.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
I liked his signing, of course knew about his volatile nature, but was persuaded by reports that his teammates never had a problem with him. (before I knew of Al’s friends)
I don’t blame Hendry at all for Bradley struglling, and I still have faith in his signing and making a good difference with this team. He has a good track record of hitting, he has just had a long adjustment period.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I like the Bradley signing too..
I think his talent/capability level is WAY above where he’s at right now. I hope it’s just something adjusting to Wrigley and Cubdom – it’s kind of a fishbowl for even low-key players where you need a thick skin. Not sure if he adjusts to this or not at this point..
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
23 homers and 110 ribbies
is pretty damn good on a “really bad” team.
I will be in attendance
And the Cubs won the last three games I was at. Plus I’ll be wearing my lucky hat (3-0 in it; not the last three either), and I plan to keep score, and when I do that, they’re 4-0. Needless to say, to quote Homer Simpson, “I like those odds!”
"You know, you should be a lot more careful crossing the street like that, otherwise you could die - if that bothers you."
Demp and McClung look like they're having a staring contest.
I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.
Let's hope...
…Dempster can find (and keep) a good release point tonight.
I hate watching him when every hitter is 2-0/3-1, and he has 80 pitches by the 4th inning.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Which of our pitchers DO you like to watch when they do that?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
None...
…but Dempster drives me crazy with it.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
TWSS
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I even hate when the other team's guy is like that
Games take forever that way
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
I need a fast game tonight like the last few.
Got plans, but hoping I can see most of the game.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Let's hope he turns it around
Dempster is 1-1 with a 5.84 ERA in two starts versus the Brewers in 2009.
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
Does anyone have the lineup for tonight?
Thanks in advance
Albert Pujols for Cubs Starting 1B in 2012
Fuld — LF
Riot — SS
Bradley — RF
Lee — LB
Soto — C
Baker — 3b
Blanco — 2b
Demp — P
idk if thats the order though
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
oh and fukudome in CF and batting before Baker and after Soto
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
someone posted it in the baker trade thread
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't joking
but that wasn’t official, either. Just my guess.
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by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Haven't seen the offical one yet
hopefully soon
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Geez, is like 5:00 ever going to get here?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
The game will be over by then for me. :)
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
A guy can hope, can't he?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
The question for Lou & Co is not what if they had Raul it is
what to do now with what they have.
Lou has to take this bull by the horns and establish or re establish they play for him and play to win.
Playing Fuld is a start. Moving things around until things click is another
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
have not heard them say the whole lineup
Lou to rest him just like other mgrs have done with struggling players
by cozmotaylor123 on Jul 2, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't follow it, but some a few of my friends really like it.
Seems like from the response there’s not much overlap between ROH and MLB fans around here..
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
And I have tickets for tomorrow.........
just ruined my day
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
FYI, Padres/Astros
@ Petco…currently in a ….“bee delay.”
Bees seem to be swarming the field. 2 out, top 9th. 6-1 Astros.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 2, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
I thought the Bees had retired for the Astros.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Would have been better 2 weeks ago
when they were playing the..A"s.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 2, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
ROFL!
I heard there was a 3 ft. column of bees in NYC this week too … what is the world coming to? Cue Hitchcock!
It's a 30 minute delay with those pesky bees, right now in SD
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 2, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
Listening to b-cast...
beekeeper on way to Petco Park.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 2, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
Are they near the crowd?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
no theres apparently a couple thousand in a players jacket
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The Candyman plays for the Padres?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Heath Bell's Jacket..
The Cubs just offered him and the Pads a “sweet” deal for a trade…
(um… sorry.. that was really bad)
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Honey.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
So did this guy smuggle them into the stadium or what?
Is it Hank White?
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A-Ram at 85%
Is probably still the best hitter on the team.
seems to bee....
a group of bees…under a jacket…near the stands……nobody wants to go near it. XX Radio says the Padres have a “beekeper” on speed dial…..and he has asked to come to the park.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 2, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
Were Ted Lilly in attendance...
…he would eat the bees like popcorn and dropkick their hive into the Pacific.
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If Ramirez, Johnson, and Guzman come off the DL Monday...
Who goes? Hart, Fuld, and… Blanco?Fox? That’s going to be a tough choice between Blanco and Fox.
Someday we'll go all the way...
I sure did love watching the glove work on Blanco for the last month.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Me too...
But I like Fox’s bat more, but he becomes mostly a bench player with Aramis back. I think he goes down to get AB’s.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope Blanco stays
we need a solid glove in the IF
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Myabe just Hart...
and someone else goes on the DL?
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on performance..
You have to wonder. He’s not adjusting to the scouting reports on him. (LBR too)
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see LBR go...
But again, that’d be Hendry admitting a failure. Probably not gonna happen.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you, Al Davis.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 2, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
LINEUP
Fuld LF
Riot SS
Lee 1B
Bradley RF
Fox 3B
Fuku CF
Soto C
Fontenot 2B
Dempster P
Why is Bradley hitting cleanup? Seriously?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Beause Sori is not leading off
and there has to be an easy out near the top of the lineup.
by jerry morales rules on Jul 2, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not an "easy" out...he just doen't hit the ball well enough right now to warrent being in that spot in the lineup.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Would 5th make you happy?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
yes...or 2nd or 6th.
he can get on base…and that’s about it lately.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee the best hitter right now..
The goals is to put protection behind him. That said, I think Soto is the best choice based on current success. But, if Bradley can’t produce in an RBI slot in the batting order, we need to find out sooner rather than later. Lou’s still trying to figure out what he’s actually got on this team, and it’s taking a lot longer than he thought (Or maybe it’s not, but I’m too chicken to share my conspiracy theory about that.. for now).
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Um...
But, if Bradley can’t produce in an RBI slot in the batting order, we need to find out sooner rather than later.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
But..
That’s what’s so strange – and that’s why I think Lou’s giving him more time.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
We're chasing 3.5 games and have been without our best hitter...
the past month and a half wasn’t the best time to “give him more time”.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The whole team, except for Lee, has struggled most of the season.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Meh..
I’ll vote for giving him more time. If he still sucks on mid August, I’ll get on the “he was a bust” bandwagon.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
he doesn't suck...he's just not a middle of the order bat so far this year.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree
sample size, too much pressure, etc etc
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
it's the only time
we’ve had.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The point isn't that he needs more time
The point is that there’s scant evidence that batting #4 in the order negatively affects Bradley’s game. You say “he can’t” hit in the cleanup spot and bring 48 plate appearances as your evidence?
If you want to argue that his skills, as expressed this season, don’t line up well with the duties of a cleanup hitter then I agree fully. He should probably be hitting either ahead of Lee or down in the order until he hits the ball with authority for a few straight games. But don’t use meaningless stats in meaningless quantities.
nice way to throw the baby out with the bathwater...
just label all evidence as meaningless and you win I guess.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
his OPS with RISP this season is .816
his career OPS with RISP is .816
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
Uh oh, here comes the OBP argument.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
how much is O, how much is S
Do you have a breakdown somewhere?
by false cognate on Jul 2, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i used discubbobulated's link above
check it out
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
now if we could only have most of that number be from slugging instead of obp....
walks don’t drive in runners unless the bases are loaded.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
dusty? dat you?
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
you know what I mean...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but
i dopnt really care if its O or S, how many RBIs someone has, etc. just keep getting on base and we will score
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
Thank you, I agree too
We can get RBIs from anywhere in the lineup, not just 3-4-5.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I can't tell whether or with whom you're being agreeable/disagreeable..
You know what really stood out on that statline.. He only has 39 ABs with RISP this year. all year! That might to a little to explain the RBI problems. What the HELL have we been doing with the 1-2 hole all year???
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i defn fall on your side of the arg more than SWL's
he needs more time and he has always been a fairly productive hitter
I’ll put it very politely…you can trust me that I’ve played at levels much higher than you might otherwise believe. You may not like my criticism but you cannot question my resume. I suggest you leave it at that.
by krummy12 on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
theres not that much about bradley atm that should frighten any pitcher
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Really glad Fuld got another start.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
that is
darn close to what I posted.
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't even want to imagine
how bad Ibanez would have been in RF here.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
the don't
he doesn’t play for us.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Guide to CaliCub's Brewer Nicknames
Googly Eyes = Braun
Fat Boy Slim = Fielder
Waldo the Dog Faced Boy = Hart
Jeffrey Hardy = J.J. Hardy
Little Yaz = Counsell
Meredith = Seth McClung (because I went to school with a Meredith McClung)
I see you avoided the obvious
“Sunglasses at Night” for Corey Hart.
by false cognate on Jul 2, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmmm
do we know the brewer lineup? I could work that in…
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
counsell
hardy
braun
fielder
mcgehee
cameron
hart
kendall
mcdung
I only need one more nickname.
counsell (Little Yaz)
hardy (Jeffrey)
braun (Googly Eyes)
fielder (Fat Boy Slim)
mcgehee (the other one that got away)
cameron
hart (Waldo the Dog Faced Boy)
kendall (The Chin)
mcClung (Meredith)
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Cameron=mini milton
he blows up, just less frequently
hrm
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
jumbled a bit but all I have
Gameday Lineups
NO. MILWAUKEE CHICAGO
1. C. Counsell, 2B S. Fuld, LF
2. J. Hardy, SS R. Theriot, SS
3. R. Braun, LF D. Lee, 1B
4. P. Fielder, 1B M. Bradley, RF
5. C. McGehee, 3B J. Fox, 3B
6. M. Cameron, CF K. Fukudome, CF
7. C. Hart, RF G. Soto, C
8. J. Kendall, C M. Fontenot, 2B
9. S. McClung, P R. Dempster, P
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
I wonder if Lou will anger tempchad and bunt in the first inning again.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
oh no, please not that again.
It’s like he hasn’t been watching this team at all this year.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I'm thinkin' tempchad took his meds today and will feel better.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
with a big red nose!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Off to see Fuld
Uh I mean the game. Al says he is waiting to watch me stare at him but figured when he was first called up I would have to sneak over to CF for a better look but as he is in LF I don’t have to. Ok no game threads for me for the next days sinceI will at all the games.
Go Cubs.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Game resumes in SD
1-Hour bee delay.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 2, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
OT - Just wondering
you think it means anything when a girl you want to get to know turns out to be a Cubs fan, and you had no Earthly idea she was even into baseball?
It means she wants you
or that you’re not very observant. My guess is the latter.
by Craig in South Bend on Jul 2, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You're Probably Right
I dated a girl a while back that was nuts about the Cubs, but was also a die-hard Michigan fan. So that ended up pretty much a wash, but it was nice during baseball season.
Marry her!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Because.........
she’ll surely stay with you through thick and thin
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
I'd say you'd have better chance of getting lucky........
if she were a Sox fan
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
You would also have a better chance of getting stabbed.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
uh oh...sorry
is that actually her?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That was bound to happen sooner or later, small world.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I hope the Cubs are as "ON".......
tonight as you are
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
ROFL!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You're humor wasn't appreciated
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
ZOMG!
THIS IS THE BEST CHANCE YOU WILL HAVE WITH HER DUDE! I SAY TO TOTALLY GO FOR IT AND GET YOUR MACK ON! MY BEST FRIEND ERIC HAD LIKE THE EXACT SAME SITUATION AND HE GOT TO 2ND BASE WITH THE GIRL AND THEY TOTALLY WERE BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND FOR OVER A MONTH! I GOTTA GO UPDATE MY MYSPACE PAGE NOW! L8TR!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
is this necessary?
if you have a problem with my passing thought you don’t have to be an asshole about it
He's joking, dude
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
CubsFan87........
doesn’t know of Eric
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
CubsFan87 = Eric?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's even better reading this while looking at Britney's picture and imagining her talking.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
she can talk?
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
And appaerntly she has a friend named Eric...
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
That's cool
For my money, it probably doesn’t mean anything…but I’m also the most cynical person in the world when it comes to women…
Good luck!
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 2, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
good god
stop asking questions, and ask her OUT!
I'm a Cubs FANATIC. They are my team, through thick and thin. [ibid] This is the kind of fan I am.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 2, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
My public apology to CubsFan87
Dude, I give everyone a hard time here…it’s not personal. My ZOMG comment was a parody of an incredibly funny fanpost here. The knife-girl pic was making fun of Clutche’s White Sox comment. Sorry if I’ve destroyed our friendship.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
TOO LATE
I think he already hung himself
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
Just keep changing names
EricHanna
tempchad
CubsFan87
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Eric and tempchad
are polar opposites. One can’t use capitalization, one can’t not use it.
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 2, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
naw
its fine, my apologies for overreacting
Whew..........
hang in there
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
bad choice of words
this a fun place despite the abuse at time.
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
That's OK.. I told someone to piss off earlier..
I soaid “sorry dude” .. Now we’re best buds.. Right DiMarco?. We were totally talking about wrestling earlier. It’s cool.. No big deal. Kum ba ya.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
you know it.
anybody who knows ROH is good in my book
Kum ba ya
Ronnie?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think thats..
(sigh).. Aw Jeez! Why?Why?Why?Why?
“Ron.. that was just ball one”
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He was singing Kum-ba-ya...
On the air the other day.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That was close..........
thought he jumped for a minute
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
No one posted a jump, did we miss it?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
don't think so
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
just a question
do you have a thing for suicides?
no I avoid them, you?
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
its just
that you mention hanging and jumping… but anyways i avoid them as well
just joking with you
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
You guys should get a room or a radio show...i'm not sure which.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
that just creeps me out
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
SWL. .. you are off the chain boss
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
You work for SWL?
Does he post funny pictures all over the office?
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Well this site is all about him, dont you know?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
allow me to fumigate my wisdom on you...
“off the chain” is slang for “really neato” and “boss” is slang for “swell”.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i think
“boss” is more like “the man” or “the dude”
boss=Springsteen
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
BBM...
The good ol’ days.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
How did he ever lose?
He had all that security guard stuff (baton, cuffs) – I’m still amazed Big Boss Man didn’t win more belts.
Bill Clinton sure has lost his appeal after the presidency ended.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
On the chain would be "really bad"?
I’m kidding about all of this btw.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
let's just say SWL have mutual commercial interests
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a gas
BTW, I put my money on 5 every time.. the breakfast of champions
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Is that a Tom Hanks trash receptacle? Classic.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Come up with something for ERIC
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
besides his jr high yearbook photo?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 2, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent work
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
i'll try
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
I SUPPOSE ERIC CAN WALK ON WATER
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
He has the look of a guy that just got to 2nd base with the whole cheerleading squad.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
pinky ring says it all.......
sorry if I offended the Italian fans
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
but no italian horn?
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Members Only jacket
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 2, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
he looks like little pete without the freckles
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 2, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If Pete had a son, wouldn't his name be RePete?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
and his son has a son = ThreePete
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
Doesn't Pete Carroll own the rights to that?
Or Pat Riley?
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 2, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
haven't seen it
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
It'll be cool when 1-5 are the same with games back and total games back.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
I can just see the headline..
Cubs lose series finale to Milwaukee, fall below .500 to fifth in the division. 1/2 game out of first.
Wrong.........
Cubs win 3 out of 4 to pull within 1.5 games of Brewers
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
Damn.. I noticed that too... Was hoping you'd all let it slide..
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 2, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
no problem
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
would be cool, but it's not possible
for the cubs to end this series a half game out.
They can be: .5 ahead, 1.5 behind, 3.5 behind, 5.5 behind, or 7.5 behind
I said 1.5 out
"We got some pretty good chemistry here. We got some toughness, and it's starting to show." - Lou Pinella
If you understand how the reply feature works,
you can see I was replying to DisCUBbobulated, not you.
oooooh, door number 1 please.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
just remember
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Holy sh!t... Almost game time.. biggest series of the year..
I don’t know wether to cheer, or just start drinking heavily just in case..
I'm already...
half in the bag…
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 2, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
cheer .. it's cheaper
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
remember we're Cubs fans ..
we have high tolerances to pain
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Thank goodness...
EI gives us a Len and Bob option tonight.
Though if all else fails I could’ve gotten Pat and Ron on the XM.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 2, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions
should be about jump time, non?
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Yep
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 2, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be awesome if you put the link from that picture.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Did Dempster get scored an error?
I could have sworn his ERA was at like 4.50 a few days ago and now it’s at 4.09. Not complaining, would love to see his ERA drop below 4.00 tonight, I just thought it was higher.
I might be mixing him and Rich Harden up.
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