ROY HALLIDAY
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 24, 2009 8:30 PM CDT
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HOW ABOUT THIS DEAL?
Cubs should trade fonzi soriano and kosuke for halliday. The cubsa should just give up on the outfield for this season and rely on the likes of reed johnson milton bradley and hoffpaur and possibly trade minor leaguers for another outfielder. Defense wins championships and the sorianos defense is suspect. The cubs would have zambrano lilly halliday and dempster. No one can compete with our pitching. Our infielders our good enough offensivly to get the job done. If we dont do this trade the phillies or cards are gonna trade for halliday. This is a once in a life time oppurtunity ot get a cy young candidate. PLEASE DO THIS CUBBIES!!!!
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i forgot that this was in caps lock, so dont criticise sorry for that mistake
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 24, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
can we criticize the horrible trade idea?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Or the liberties you took with spelling and grammar?
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Jul 26, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
and if we dont get halliday then the cardinals or phillies are gonna grab him
so we mine as well take him from the blue jays before other teams get to him
hes a cy young type pitcher
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 24, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions
Kids these days.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 31, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I wanna know who this is
posing as eric hanna!
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by ambrosiadreams on Jul 24, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
This is, of course, silly.
Besides, Reed Johnson would be pretty tired playing all three OF positions.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
bradley scales hoffpaur and maybe we could trade some minor leaguers for another outifielder. We would just need good defensive players because we would have such a good pitching staff. our infielers would score runs and sotos pretty good
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 24, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy Cow!
This is a brilliant idea!!!
No seriously guys, listen!
With Reed playing the corner outfields, that’ll leave Mike Fontenot playing center and hitting 30 homers over the final 62 games! Seriously, I kid you not, this guy may have something there.
Now if we could only do something about second base.
Or the fact that we have no one to back up any of our position players.
by northernsails on Jul 30, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
hey!
use the reply function, you! :P
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Fuld would do it.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 25, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
I am a casual reader and rare poster on this site but this is the third or fourth time ive seen a ludicrous trade idea post be rec’d. How does this happen? Most contributers to this site seem very knowledgeable. Please no more ridiculous unrealistic ideas like this.
Satirical recs
I believe that it is rec’d so that everybody can see it and take turns flaming the original poster into shame.
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by Invalid User on Jul 26, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
We Rec the ridiculous.
It’s just how we roll.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Rec roll?
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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 27, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Precisely.
Speaking of which, I got Rickrolled at my dentist’s last week. Sitting there in chair, cleaning in progress, Rick Astley comes on the radio. Couldn’t do a damn thing. Had to sit there and suffer. Pwned.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe someone was getting a root canal
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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 27, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
oh is adam lind available
he would be a good pickup we could throw in a couple of minor leaguers for him in the halliday triade
then our outfeild would be very good with him and bradley once he starts hitting
dont call me an idiot for not mentioning adam lind but that is a good idea
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 24, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm dude...
He was being sarcastic.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 24, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I rec'd this post
just for this comment. WOULD REC AGAIN!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Consider it Rec'd again!
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
I'm beginning to think that another blog
has recruited their users to infiltrate BCB and have people post crazy crap like this. Somewhere out there in the internets is someone cracking up.
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07
That was my first thought.
I mean, this is so sublimely ridiculous, it can’t be real. But if you read some of the esteemed author’s comments on those basketball and football blogs…
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 24, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you mean this si old?
halliday is on the market. The cubs should get this guy as quick as possible and just go for pitching and win with it. Dont rely on offense as much cause pitching wins championships
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 24, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Good idea
What kind of blackmail do you have on JP Riccardi to get him to agree to this deal? And what dirt do you have on Soriano and Fukudome to get them to waive their no-trade clauses?
Because that’s all that standing between us and a championship!
soriano is a power slugger and teams need those kind of guys and fukudome is a solid outfielder
in the al east the jays need some hitters and it seems like the blue jays are willing to give up pitching
so it seems like the perfect fit of a trade
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 25, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, it's a perfect something alright.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 25, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not the talent for the Blue Jays
it’s the money, ee cummings.
And why are Fukudone and Soriano waiving their no-trade clauses to go to Toronto?
I see what you did there.
ee cummings. Ha.
by stuartscottslefteye on Jul 27, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
A package of...
Pie, Cedeno, and R. Hill gets this done.
No it wouldn't
But throw in Miles and THAT will get it done.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 24, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Or maybe Gabby Hartnett.
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Brant Brown
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
I'm pretty sure Santo is available
He’d do a better job in the field than he does in the booth
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Bruce Miles?
He’s Zonr rating is poor… they’ll never want him.
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by digitalbenjamin on Jul 26, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
no way in hell that gets it done ahaa unless the gm’s an idiot
which he is i guess cause he’s willing to trade halladay
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 25, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
First off
I was being sarcastic, which you learn a lot of people are here. Secondly, JP Richardi is a very good gm (in my opinion at least), and I agree with him on getting rid of Halladay.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 25, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
How exactly is Richardi a good GM?
I know he’s one of Billy Beane’s guys, but he’s made some really really really bad deals.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
His pitching staff of the future
Richmond
Marcum
Romero
Litsch
Cecil
McGowan
And you can add 2 of Drabek/Happ/Carrasco/Knapp.
That’s like, oh, the A’s!
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
I think Ricahrdi
Knows when to call it a season, and he always milks every single player out of all the teams.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 25, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
who the hell is Ricahrdi?
and who the hell is Halliday? I think BCB should have a mandatory IQ test before members are allowed to join.
"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 1, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow I made a typo
Bravo for pointing it out, you deserve a cookie.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 1, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
right, I was asking myself the same question.
I guess wrigleyrocker12 is fighting fire with, well, uhm… fire?
"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 1, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
How?
By stating my own opinion?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 1, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all
We don’t need him. Second of all, the Blue Jays are trying to go young and dump big contracts, why in the WORLD would they want Soriano and Dome, who are both in their thirties, and have MONSTER contracts. Not to mention, that completely weakens our lineup.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 24, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
Completely agree...
Make it happen Jim. Also, since Peavy is on the DL, we could probably get him really cheap too (maybe for Bradley and Jake Fox?).
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 24, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
surprisingly it did!
"you should go back to your cowardly practice of offering no opinion of your own."
-picktoclick
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 1, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Bronson Arroyo is available....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
come on.....name the last Cub to wear cornrows.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 24, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Z
earlier in the season.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 24, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Delino DeShields?
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Ron Santo
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
by Cub Style on Jul 25, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Made me chuckle
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Ugh, can't stand him.
And I wouldn’t want to give the Reds anything.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 25, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Well
the ole crafty Jeff Blauser might be a option out there! He would help at short back in his hay days with the Braves and us
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SAM FULD
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 24, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions
THATS WHAT I SAID
IS THIS GUY STUPID OR WHAT
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 24, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
that's some insight right there.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 25, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions
cubs can only win trades
with their friendly neighborhood pittsburg pirates maybe they will give that jack wilson for genovy Sota
take it easy
why care about a bloggers grammar
Genovy Sota is unavailable.
In fact, he doesn’t exist.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
+1000
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
I made a sandwich with some Genovy Sota the other day.
Added some provolone, sun-dried tomatoes. Delicious.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 25, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
oh AngryAndy you crack me up sometimes,.wait……nope I was wrong..you crack me up all the time!!
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"crack" being the operative word there
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 25, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I stopped reading this post
at “trade fonzi sorano and kosuke”
This is a good idea.
After we trade for Halliday, let’s trade Aaron Miles and Koyie Hill for Chase Utley. Then, we can package Blanco and Kevin Hart for Hanley Ramirez. I hear Lincecum is available, so maybe we can offer the Giants Sam Fuld and Jake Fox for Lincecum. What do you think?
Well we gave up Hill
and Geo is hurt so we would have to trade Luis Rivas and Mark Johnson for Joe Mauer
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 25, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Throw in Jose Ascanio and the Twins will throw in Justin Morneau.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
But then what happens to DLee?
I guess we could use him to restock the farm system once we use all of our “prospects” in trades
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jul 25, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Horrible Idea...However
Defensively, Fuld in LF, Johnson in CF, Fukudome in RF is one heck of a defensive outfield.
Now that I agree with - though I might put Fuld in center and RJ in left.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 25, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I really don't know what to say about this. For once in my life I am
totally speechless.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 25, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions
but this
didn’t make you speechless? :D
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/6/30/931029/cubs-need-to-make-a-trade
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 25, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Yabbut that was entertaining. This is just plain silly.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 26, 2009 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you
Just stumbled across this fanpost now . . . I thought for sure it was just someone trying to ride the coattails of the wackiness.
This . . . wow.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 26, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Eric Hanna
Is offended.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
lmao
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Trade ideas like this are further proof we are in the silly season
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
WE NEED BUDDY JESUS!!!
Randy Wells. A product of the Roy Halladay School of Pitching, located in Toronto, Canada. Possible relocation.
If this post wasn't a joke
I feel bad for how dumb FAN of the BULLS is
I really wish
the rec’ing of extra stupid posts would stop. It was funny with the hanna post, but now it’s old.
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Jul 25, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1 Million
Fantasy baseball leagues have killed the common sense of fans it seems.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
it seems like i’m getting dissed for recommending trying to get halliday
yet in the other threads people were talking about the cubs being dark horses to get halliday
thats weird
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 26, 2009 12:08 AM CDT reply actions
Weird? I don't know if you are serious or not, but you start
off by stating you want to trade two players with NTCs in their contracts to a team that is clearly heading into a rebuilding mode. Do you think they would want two players on the down side of 30 who haven’t exactly been tearing it up? I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m thinking they probably want some top prospects for Halladay, not a couple of high priced underachievers. Fantasy trades make for good laughs, but you have to admit this one is WAY out there. I’d love to get the best pitcher in baseball and unload our crap, but come on, at least make it reasonable.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 26, 2009 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions
it’s hard to understand how baseball trades work. I would much rather have a proven player even if there older than a minor leaguer who hasnt done anything. I dont really understand how Gms operate. The jays linuep would really improve if they make this trade and they could compete in the al east with this trade cause of there offensse
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 26, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
it’s hard to understand how baseball trades work.
Apparently, harder then you think.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Please, do me a favor
learn the difference between there, they’re, and their.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
thank you
that, and your and you’re, are two of my biggest pet peeves.
It's not hard to understand how trades work. Teams trade based on need. Toronto
needs young prospects, not expensive established veterans.They can’t afford contracts like Soriano and Fukudome. They realize they can’t win in their division with the team as it is currently constructed. It’s really not that complicated.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 27, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
So let me get this straight:
You don’t understand how major league trades work, so you come here and propose a major league trade. Do you see why we might get a little frustrated with your suggestion?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
no
you’re not getting dissed for recommending we try to get Halladay.
What you’re getting dissed for is the very unrealistic fantasy-baseball package you’re suggesting we use to get Halladay.
Why would Soriano waive his NTC when he was specific about wanting to stay with a team for a long time? Why would we trade Dome, who is starting to really produce for us? And for ghod’s sake, why would we want two outfield positions covered by Fox and Bradley?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
They are asking the Phillies for Happ plus three other top prospects
The Cubs version of this request would be something like Soto, J. Fox, Vitters, Cashman, and Starlin Castro. And Halliday would probably expect three years tacked onto his current contract to stretch it out to 2013.
This isn’t 1984 where “all” the Indians wanted for half a season of what had been a so-so Sutcliffe was Joe Carter and Mel Hall. For comparison, when Randy Johnson got traded to the Astros in his prime as a pure rental, the haul included Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen, and John Halama (who wasn’t bad before he got hurt). With a season left for Halliday’s current contract, it’s not worth it.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Jul 26, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that Halladay will not be traded before the deadline.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Not according to Peter Gammons and we know that old Andrew Jackson is
always right on the money with his predictions. He’s never been wrong, right?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 27, 2009 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I still say Phillies or bust
I suppose some dark horse team we haven’t thought of can swoop in — Dodgers, maybe — but I’d say there’s a better than 50/50 chance Al is right.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Yep, I'm headin' in this direction myself.
I heard the Rangers brought up as a dark horse on ESPN radio over the weekend. I’d be OK with that, too.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
they have the prospects to do the deal
but not the cash
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 27, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You could start by learning how to spell Halladay?
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
I love this board
I love all of you! Today is a day for love!
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
I would check the vitamins you took this morning...
… did they look like this?
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did your wife
give birth? :D
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I seriously doubt I'm here much after October
I might be able to post at work, but my nighttime and early-morning posting will go WAY down.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
how about the cubs and sox switch carlos
trade zambrano for quinten
take it easy
why care about a bloggers grammar
that's not angry.
but it’s foolish. Are you going to change your username?
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 26, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Not just angry, but loony, too
Great idea if you’re a White Sox fan. The Cubs are hurting for starting pitching and you suggest trading Zambrano … brilliant.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 27, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs are hurting for SP?
Injuries haven’t helped, but that’s hardly their primary need.
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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 27, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
It became a bigger need when Lilly went down
Maybe Dempster’s return fills that void, maybe it doesn’t. Maybe Hart can continue as the 5th starter, maybe he doesn’t. Maybe Harden is able to make the rest of his starts, maybe he doesn’t. Yes, starting pitching has been the strength of the team so far, but recent developments make it look less certain. Another starter may not be a bigger need than LH bullpen help, but it is more necessary than Freddy Sanchez.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 28, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that Sanchez isn't a panacea
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by Shanghai Badger on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, sure!
We’ll trade you one of our top starters (notice I didn’t say “Ace”) for your injured left fielder! Because our left field is wide open! Where do we sign?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Question
As a completely new poster, what constitutes a recommended post as opposed to the generic post? As a refugee from the idiocy of AOL message boards, I was subjected to inane posts such as this daily, usually by children. Does the original poster recommend himself? I couldn’t decipher what makes this recommended.
this one in particular?
mostly rec’d to show off the … entertainment… regulars got from a post.
in general, they’re usually things we like and would want someone else to read. you can rec comments and posts by clicking the “actions” link and then ticking the “rec” link.
A comment that recieves several ’rec’s turns green. A post that gets several recs gets moved to the top so other people see it.
Are you related to "lookingdeadred"?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
In answer...
No, I quit posting and visiting there years ago. Maybe “lookingdeadred” usurped my name. It speaks to his mentality if he did so.
Hmmm, did I wrong you in another life?
I have posted on AOL boards for years under the screen name lookingdeadred, in fact I still do although not much happening there anymore. So, what was your name on the AOL boards, skippy? It certainly was not whosdeadred.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 28, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, man - I didn't mean to start a fight but, uh, please continue...as politely as possible, of course.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I have no issue with you dat
But I am interested to know why whosdeadred has issues with me.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 28, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, his reaction is oddly combative.
I was just joking around, of course.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Who was I...?
Puddintane. And if you ask me again I’ll tell you the same. It was what I said, I doubt you were the christening member of that board. I was one of those. I don’t know you, and based on the "Skippy’ remark don’t care to.
You get in my face in one of your first posts here
and you now play the victim. Freekin’ brilliant.
Maybe you were a “christening member” of the AOL board, but you have not been around for years, so to insinuate I “usurped” your screen name is either a lame attempt at humor or an even lamer attempt at playing a tough guy.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 29, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
It is what it is...
Skippy, Spunky, Sparky. I’m not tough. Never pretended to be. I will see you around though, and it WILL be about baseball, not hurt feelings regarding screen names. Just leave your paranoia about the name alone and we’ll see in this ever evolving season what it is…
You brought up the screen name nonsense not me
so here’s hoping for improvement in your future posts, then again, you have got nowhere to go but up
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill
by lookingdeadred on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
if you guys dont like halliday who should the cubs trade for?
maybe hanley ramieriz. The marlins are always looking to give away good players cause they dont want to pay them. We can move to theriot to 2nd and Ramieriz to ss. We could two minor leaguers and maybe fox who is good young hitter.
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 27, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions
Hanley Ramirez signed a 6 year 70 million dollar deal last year they need him to fill their new stadium they are not giving him up.
For teams to trade good proven players (Halladay, Ramirez, etc.) usually takes prospects which unfortunately we don’t have alot of.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Jul 27, 2009 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you have a mental disability?
I am just asking, cause that would mean posters need to stop flaming you.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Or maybe you really are just a kid?
There has to be something, and I’d feel real bad that people are making fun of you.
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Since you seem to want some tips on being an amateur GM:
1) It’s not always about making a big trade, like getting Halladay or Hanley Ramirez. It is about getting what you need. Look at the Cubs’ roster, it is pretty much set with veterans, or long-term contracts, at every position. This is why the Cubs are looking to get some bullpen help or a backup starter. The players we have need to perform at the level they were signed to perform at. For more help on contracts, see Cot’s Contracts.
2) Teams do not typically “give away good players,” especially the Marlins, the Marlins have this continued stream of good players because they scout players from other teams very well when making trades. This is why the Marlins seem to compete every year, despite having a $36 million payroll, compared to the Cubs’ $135 million. The Blue Jays, for example, want top pitching prospects, plus some other quality prospects, not 30+ year old outfielders with contracts bigger than what Halladay is receiving. Teams are not always trading veterans because they cannot afford them, sometimes it’s just to get younger. Trades, in theory, should make both teams better, why would the Blue Jays or the Marlins hand us their best players, for a “couple minor leaguers?”
3) Understand the no-trade clause and the 5-10 rule. A no-trade clause, that many of the Cubs’ players have in their long-term contracts specifies, that the player may reject any trade. The 5-10 rule, means if a player has been in the major leagues for 10 years and the last 5 with the same team, the player may reject any trade or minor league assignment. For even more help on this along with how options, DFA, and the DL see the ESPN Transaction Primer. So unless the Cubs are in last place, do not think that guys like Soriano, Fukudome, Zambrano, Lee, or anyone else would even think about approving a trade.
4) Further more on trades making you better. Giving up your one of your best power hitters to get another starting pitcher does not make much sense, does it? Especially when you do not really need another starting pitcher, recent injuries aside. Reed Johnson, unfortuantely cannot fill Soriano’s shoes at the plate, this is why he is not starting everyday.
5) Everyone else, please feel free to add a few more tips for our budding Jim Hendry.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
2) Teams do not typically "give away good players," especially the Marlins, the Marlins have this continued stream of good players because they scout players from other teams very well when making trades.
derrek lee would like to disagree
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 27, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd call that
an atypical trade.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why I italicized typically
cause it those steals happen, let’s not forget how the Cubs got Sandberg either
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
yea please feel free to leave me some information on how to become a beter gm. I would always like to try to pick some type of job in baseball management as a career path. I just need to learn more about how trades work like minor leaguers. But i’m still learning and dont flame me. i would love to have jim hendrys job that would be a dream job of mine
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 27, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I usually don't ask this but...how old are you?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
a/s/l !!!!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 27, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Great, now that MSNBC guy is going to come snooping around my cube.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey DCD:
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Mind if I take one of these bottles of water?
Are those chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin?
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, well, thanks for joining us.
Like I said, maybe stick more to asking questions and using this site as a learning tool than making trade suggestions. Coming up with reasonable, defensible trade ideas is really difficult.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
This comment is both honest and concilliatory. You’ll get a lot more information back, as well as far fewer sarcastic replies, by asking questions and admitting, up front, that you don’t understand the machinations involved.
If you really do want to work in a team’s front office, my first piece of advice would be to start paying more attention in English class. You could have all the savvy of Branch Rickey but if your cover letter contains comical grammatical mistakes, they won’t even look at the CV beneath it. We all make silly mistakes with the language but both your original fanpost and your comments lead me to believe that a) you’re very young or b) neither English nor Spanish (it’s spelled “Ramirez”, just like the surname of the Cubs’ 3rd baseman) is your first language.
"I'd rather play baseball than eat." - Andy Pafko
by LaddieRenfroe on Jul 27, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Further, if the poster is a college student...
… there are many teams that have internships in baseball management, both major and minor league. He should try to find one of those.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I really hope this poster isn't a college student
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
Let's hope Composition 101 is a prereq.
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by dat cubfan daver on Jul 27, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you high?
Seriously. Put the bong down and step away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself by trying to eat it.
The Cubs have ZERO AAA prospects of note. Well, maybe 1/2 of one if you count Jake Fox, and the Marlins don’t need him. Any trade for Ramirez, Halliday, etc. would require something like Marshall, Vitters, Cashner, and Castro. As in ALL FOUR OF THEM.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
Well no, Heilman is untouchable
If we were willing to trade Heilman, then we’d get Ramirez straight up. After all, we traded Ronny Cedeno for Heilman, and Cedeno is just as good as Ramirez.
Oh, wait, I thought we were talking about Max Ramirez. Never mind…
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ramirma03.shtml
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Jul 27, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
FAIL!!!
“what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
This is one big joke, its gotta be.
The OP has obviously spent a few days making other silly posts and recommendations, maybe in order to appear legitimate when glancing at his profile. OR This is someone who is of a different status that we should all feel bad for poking fun at. Regardless: YOU SIR ARE NO ERIC HANNA!! And I cannot award you with a rec.
he is
legion.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Jul 27, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
HANNAD
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 27, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously this is not a joke I really thought this trade idea would bring up some discussion. I guess it wasnt a smart idea. I promise to post smarter trades in the future. by the way who is eric hanna? it keeps getting mentioned.
GO BULLS
by FAN of the BULLS on Jul 27, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, we'll try to behave
But we’d seen so many of these. Please don’t be offended, but the trade wasn’t realistic.
Plus, while this isn’t an English class, you’d get better reactions if you were a bit more careful than that, as someone else noted.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 27, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes shades
of Eric HANNA. WHAT WAS HANNA A ONE HIT WONDER? NEVER HEARD FROM HIM AGAIN.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
I have no idea
why the Jays wouldn’t be jumping all over this deal. Not one, but two 30+ year old outfielders on the downsides of their careers, for one of the top 3 pitchers in the game?
Sounds like a no-brainer to me.
they just dont know talent when they see it
kind of like randy wells amirite
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions
aaron miles, starling castro and... bobby scales for good measure
He can throw a fastball at 87MPH and make you look like a fool. He can spray lines drives to right field. He can put up with crappy offense and take the loss. He is Randy Wells. He is the most interesting pitcher in the world. Stay healthy, my friends.
by jesus christos on Aug 2, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Thriw in Heilman too.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 2, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
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