Overflow Thread 3: Cubs vs. Astros, Tuesday 7/28, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jul 28, 2009 9:45 PM CDT
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win thread
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
First
WHo is this Meier guy
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
This is the Cubs victory thread!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
my nightmare is coming true
HEILMAN UP!!
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
And may I add my personal thanks to you
For screwing up this thread for everyone on their phone? Your doubts were both heartfelt and prescient, but the delivery could use some work. And a well-placed tap o’ the spacebar.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 29, 2009 2:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
my bad
you’d think after 12,000 comments I’d have figured out the quirks of SBN commenting, but nope.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 29, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaron Heilman is warming
Please, Lou – no…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
the "let's keep heilman in the bullpen" thread
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
fail
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
The President of the Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub approves of this here message
But I guess it’s the right spot to pitch him—if there ever was one.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Stevens out, Heilman (oh no!) in.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
nm
be good heilman
for the love of god be good
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah crap, Please leave the gas can away from the mound!
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Heilman went 1-2-3 yesterday
Anyone else not have a lot of faith in him stringing two non-crap outings together?
I think he'll crap rainbows
And ride off on a unicorn.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The President of the Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub
But he may be suited for this here situation.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
a major league mound
with a runner on base.
ugh. who knows… maybe lou knows something I don’t though
Heilman went 1-2-3 yesterday
yeah and Corey Patterson has 104 career HRs
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 28, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
"He wants Aaron Heilman."
No! NO! NOOOOOOOO!
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions
all of BCB holding breath...
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Please be the good Heilman tonight.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
At least the 'stros bullpen will be exhausted if the Cubs lose.
Valverde two innings.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
So's Shaq
According to the hard-hitting reporting on The Worldwide Leader
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
wrestling sucks donkey balls
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
no no no
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
jokes are funny
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 28, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Ballgame.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jul 28, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions
impossible
also impossible to come back from deficits of 4-0 and 6-3 in a single game.
REALLY impossible to come back from 10-6 in the same game
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Then get the hell out
Didn’t realize games were only 7.5 innings in length.
That said, Heilman really hurts sometimes.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
chill out
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
Nope
Not when confronted with asinine commentary.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
who confronted you?
let the guy give up if he wants, why get so upset over it?
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
Because
It’s stupid and ignorant.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
you and I can
continue to believe in this team while he acts like a loser and gives up …. who cares? why get worked up over it? That’s all I’m saying… there are always going to be naysayers and it’s just not worth it IMHO
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
LOL
you haven’t been watching this game???
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
indeed
impossible to come from 4 runs down
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
he'll be my new signature
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Like I said, ballgame.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
See ya
and don’t let the door hit ya.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
4 runs = insurmountable
ignore the fact that we were already down 4-0 in this game
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
The Aaron Heilman Sucks Fanclub is accepting new membership applications
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
can i join
pleeeeeeaaaaaseeee
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
You're a charter member, if I recall correctly
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
they looking for a vice president?
i’ve been a long time hater (and i’m fine with it)
We need a fundraiser
to come up with moneys to buy him a bus ticket to Boise.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
i've proposed a one way trip into space...
… if dogs can travel cross country and find their way back home, he surely could
awesome .... one pitch
is all it took
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
That didn't take long.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions
Stevens could have done that :-(
BB just said that 15 out of 31 runners have scored on Heilman’s watch. ugh.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
nice try by fuku... couldn't do too much else with that
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
you are kidding right?
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
Are you drunk?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
granderson may have caught it...
but you have to work with what you have. It was nice to see him go for it and try to preserve the game.
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Think we can trade Heilman for Howry?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Oh Heliem
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
Can we get an intervention going for Lou?
Just to tell him this Heilman thing is over and to let it go. Unbelievable. And here goes Bob to actually tell it like it is. . .good for him.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
No, I just hate idiots who call people "trolls"...
when they get pissed off when the Cubs lose. It’s patently absurd.
How about those who only post when the Cubs are losing?
What would you refer to those people as?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
everyone who gets pissed isn't a troll
but some are.
and don’t give me the “venting” crap either. it takes time to type stuff if you’re over 6 words its no longer venting.
Wow, didn't say it to you
But if you think the shoe fits so well…
by bilbosbuttons on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Heilman has inherited 31 runners....
15 of them have scored.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
Stuie says
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfair comparison...Marshall is a major league pitcher
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
And understands the concept of a strikezone.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Blah
Just a bad night from our pitching staff. Just blah.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Never know
I’m not getting my hopes up though. It’s just one game.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Are people still thinking that Dome plays too deep?
He looked like he might have been too shallow on the triple…..
"[Obama's] top advisors are Cub fans, so he has a chance." - Lou Piniella, 16 July 2009
by CaughtInTheVines on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
I may cry......
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Ramirez looked as if he was shedding a tear...
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
That ball was smoked as well.
F you Heilman. God, what an absolutely pathetic pitcher.
I hope that if I ever suck as badly at my job that Heilman does at his, I’ll continue to get chance after chance after chance. Ugh.
Not sure if I hate Heilman or Howry more
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Howry has proven this year that last season was a blip
Heilman has proven that last season’s numbers weren’t a blip. Still not all Heilman’s fault tonight because the pitching just hasn’t been great tonight.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Heilman makes the rest of the team worse...
he’s like the Anti-Ramirez
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
Aram wants that play back
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Absolutely terrible management here by Lou
Heilman has been decent starting innings. He is terrible coming into trouble.
15 of 31 inherited runs have scored
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Couldn't Lou have put Marmol in tonight?
He also pitched yesterday, IIRC.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions
Two hands next time, Riot
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Thank you!
As a former little league coach, I can say that this business of one-handing everything makes the teaching job MUCH harder!
"[Obama's] top advisors are Cub fans, so he has a chance." - Lou Piniella, 16 July 2009
by CaughtInTheVines on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
We were lucky last night
and it was a blast but Lou’s managing batter by batter instead of thinking ahead often comes back to bite you in the ass. Get Grabow, Beimel etc so Lou HAS a real LOOGY then Marshall can start or do long relief
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Pitching tonight has been a garbage monster
making a GD all-star out of Jeff Keppinger.
by ElHijoDelRonSanto on Jul 28, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
Doesn't help that Blum always seems to get those go ahead or game winning runs against us
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Hmm lets see
You could have hit someone for Dempster , put Marshall in and let pitch a few innings so you did not have to put in Stevens after
a 36 pitch outing last night or having screwed that up you could put in Gregg instead of Heilman because if you don’t score by the end of the 9th you aren’t using him anyway. I could go on.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The nice thing about being a Cubs fan is...
…we shouldn’t expect anything more than what we get. I know. I hate saying that.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
You're spot on ....
I really don’t understand how Lou keeps mismanaging the pitching staff
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
he tries to do too much
Lou overmanages like no other can. Like I said last night, he’s better suited to managing in the AL where he doesn’t have to fall into the double-switch Match Game crap he pulls.
I have mentioned this before
but Derek Lowe who pitched for him his rookie season and got traded because he walked too many batters said
Lou never understood or trusted pitchers because he always thought like the hitter he had been.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
One night
I want to come on here and not question Lou. I just find this to be impossible game in and game out.
This is one of those nights where I have to blame the pitchers
It’s not Lou’s fault that they stunk up the joint tonight.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
But why not let Stevens pitch there
Heilman is bad when he comes in with runners on, let the kid pitch out of the jam, see what he is made of
by niuhuskie224 on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Put Gregg in
He is RESTED. Not my favorite situation for him but a better option.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm back to firing Heilman into space...
… i allowed him back into the atmosphere after yesterday’s outing. but 2 outs, gives up a solid double then goes 3-0 (finally 3-1) before that big hop over Aramis. i swear he is allergic to strikes
All of Hendry's offseason moves have been failures.
Well, maybe Gregg has been steady.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Gregg's been extremely good...
shakey to start, but that’s the shock f playing in chicago compared to 3,500 fans in miami
Duly noted
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
In all fairness to Lou...
…when you have a pitcher just coming off the DL, and he’s on an 85-pitch count, you don’t really expect to win. Circumstances made it much more likely the Cubs might take it (and they still might). But in the end, you knew you’d have to have a lot of offense to pull out the W in a game like this.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions
if you dont expect to win then
Dempster should be pitching a rehab game in AAA
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
He
Should have went on a rehab start. But, I imagine that since Lilly was hitting the DL, they did not feel comfortable bringing anyone else up to take a start while Dempster got his in in triple A.
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a 162-game season, folks.
Sure, you WANT to win them all, and the fans do, too. But against Oswalt? And with a pitcher starting JUST off the DL? A realistic person should see that and say, “My team has a less than 50% chance to win this game. If we win, great. If not, we get them next time.”
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
True true
That’s why I think football is more popular than baseball. 1) it’s more predictable, and 2) a fan can appreciate a sport where anger, fury, and the need to stomp out the opposition’s guts can easily be translated into the style of play.
Oswalt was out in the 2nd inning so
that argument doesn’t hold up
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
Yes, it does.
When you look at a baseball game, before it starts, you never say, “Gee, their ace is on the mound. But it’s OK, because he will leave in the second anyway with an injury, and that means we should win the game!”
If you do, you’re watching a different game than most of us have all our lives.
A poor performance is always possible, but not too likely with Oswalt. And you knew even if Dempster was lights-out, he’d likely be out of the game by the sixth! Again, a rational person would see that and say “our chances to win aren’t stellar today,” unless you are positive your team can out-slug the other.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh
I figured the game against Oswalt would be tough… but I had no idea it would be anything like this one. Whoa, crazy game so far.
Memo to Jim Hendry:
More bullpen help.
Please.
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions
That's too easy
Just DFA Heilman
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
If it means anything, we've got another final score in the division:
Washington 8, Milwaukee 3.
About the only good news right now.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions
watch out
for those gNats! They could come up out of nowhere!
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
by cdnsportnic on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Sori has two walks?
WTF? No Guesshacking today?
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions
Too many mistakes tonight
Dempster’s inexplicable mistake on the error
Guzman letting up after getting Lee
Stevens throwing Bourn a curve on 3-2
Everything related to Heilman
Re: Heilman
Where was Marmol tonight?
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The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
We can win this game!
Come on Cubbies!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
What the he'll are you doing???
Cheering? WTF!
/sarcasm
by bilbosbuttons on Jul 28, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
baker doesnt do much for me
i dont think he is the answer. We still need a second baseman.
How many more do you want?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
ill take one decent one
and ill keep blanco.
i was calling for him to PH for dempster...
…yelling so loud for it at the tv i probably scared the neighbors. they need 2-way TVs, so yelling at it could be heard by Lou
How much more fun would baseball be
if a runner could punch a pitcher coming to tag him.
Basewars, anyone?
you mean
like A-Rod? Oh wait that was a girl slap.
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
by cdnsportnic on Jul 28, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really
The Cubs weren’t in this one from the start, although they did tie it eventually. This hardly is one that got away.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
See my ridiculed comments above.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Well in the sense that we had a tough game against Oswalt...
…and were lucky to see him go down with an injury.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Would have been a good opportunity, perhaps
But it isn’t as if the Cubs were leading this game and squandered it late. That’s letting a game get away. Not a game in which you’ve never led.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like you've got your hands full below...
…but there is no reason the Cubs shouldn’t have won this game. The squandered some good opportunities.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I'm not sure about how good the opps were
They did have, what, six runs on four hits for a while? I think they took advantage of just about every opportunity.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I look at it the same way.
Despite those facts you just named and that their ace was hurt, we still couldn’t win. Eh whatever.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
dude, you've said some stupid stuff before, but this takes the cake.
We really weren’t in this? It was 6-6 at one point. It’s hard to be more “in it” then tied
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I'd say
having a 4-0 lead and losing a game is “letting one get away,” wouldn’t you? Or do you use your brain at all?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
do you? It was tied at sixes, how the hell were we "never in it"
I’m not even sure how them having a 4-0 lead, and us coming back makes you think you have a point
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Did the Cubs ever lead in this game, genius?
No. Therefore, they didn’t let it “get away.” Although you apparently have let whatever intelligence you might have had get away long ago.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not the one who said they let it get away.
I’m also not the one who claims we were never in it.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither did I
I said “The Cubs weren’t in it from the start.” Reading comprehension is fundamental.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 28, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, I thought that was gone.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
gah
geoff blum can hit a homer but not my man k hill
evil world eh
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
How many warning track balls have we hit thee last 2 games?
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
When
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Not my night tonight.
First a reply fail, then a typing fail.
Check my second comment.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
When's his contract up?
We could sign him if someone in our OF leaves.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
35-36 years old....
Kinda depends on his power. If his numbers start dropping off, then no.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't jump on that grenade,
unless you got a way better deal for him than the $18.5 mil he is getting right now.
You’re killin’ me Smalls!
I seem to see a lot of games against the Astros.
And you’re right on both accounts.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Holy crap Aaron Heilman sucks
rushing home to catch the end of a close ballgame. Aaron makes sure it’s not close
And Lou Pineilla, still the biggest moron on the club. Why the hell do you continue to put that piece of crap in when it;’s a close ball game?
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
When's his contract up?
We could sign him when someone in our OF leaves.
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The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, reply fail.
Meant to reply to cubswynn.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on hoff
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
How did that fat POS Lee
get to that ball? You figure anything to the wall is over his head.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
I actually dont mind
Carlos Lee, hes actually good. What bothers me is when mouthbreathers like Blum, Keppinger and Pence beat us.
3 pitch strikeout
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
yup
bad hoff
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
There's an image macro there somewhere
But I’m too lazy to make it.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Hoff vs. LH Pitching
FAIL! He is the king of the guess hackers
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
Everyone was on the Hoffpauir bandwagon early in the season
No wonder so many people hate Cubs fans.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I saw enough of the Hoffpauir bandwagon when Lee was off to a slow start
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
And if you care to review, I argued Lee would heat up
I’ve actually argued everyone would heat up and was flamed for it
by Mike Martin on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Not everyone
Just that those who were beating the drum were really beating it…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
i was not
never. not a moment. though he was trash from the start. check my posts
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
by louslovechild on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
the same ones that liked
Daryl Ward maybe
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Don't count me
in that group.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Isn't it funny how so many peple are claiming to have never liked Hoffpauir?
I’m not ashamed to admit it.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
my position with him hasnt changed
I didnt have much good to say about him earlier in the season and I dont have much bad to say about him right now. He’s having a better year than D Ward is…….
I was never in
his camp and I hated when that group wanted Hoff to start over Derrek.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Don't count you in the group...
That was a big fan of the guy who was the best hitter on our team in mid May? Got it.
Not surprised.
I wished him well
but never saw him sustaining that sucess long term.
Sorry if that seems “typical” or whatever.
Jesus get over yourself.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Umm, okay?
I don’t see how that post makes any sense whatsoever in response to what I said.
I’m just saying that I think it’s incredibly laughable for you to (proudly) proclaim that you were never a fan of his… despite the fact that he was OUR BEST HITTER early on in the season.
I don't have to be
a fan of every player on this team. When he helped the team that was great. I was never in favor of him playing over Derrek.
You come across as an ass and know it all and put people down all the time. That’s why I said what I did.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Oh, you mean...
When he had an OPS over 900 in mid May? Umm, yeah, of course we were on the bandwagon. Especially since DLee was so terrible at that same time.
I like Hoff
But he has a big hole in his swing and the league knows it and has adjusted.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Exactly! And as I said in my post below...
He either needs to adjust accordingly, or his career is done.
The Cubs might let him go if he doesn't adjust
Watch Florida pick him up and he turns into an All-Star.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
C'mon Dodgers!
Billingsley’s been awesome so far…unfortunately ditto Wainwright.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT reply actions
Shark in the water!
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
For some reason I still have a good feeling about this game
This could be an 11-10 game
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
Which way?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That is a personal question but
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That leap is so lame
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Since the begining of June...
Hoff’s line is as follows: .184/.225/.355/.580
Absolutely abysmal. The league has figured him out. He can either A) make the adjustments, or B) go back to Iowa. Or I guess C) continue to fail at his job on a daily basis.
Time to step up, Micah.
I'm no Fuld-lover
But for now I’d rather see him up here while Hoff works on his swing down in AAA. Maybe when rosters expand he can provide some of that pop for us again.
Since you asked
Fuld was 2-5 tonight with a triple. It might be nice to have someone on the bench with speed & defense but of course power
even very infrequent power is preferred by Lou etc.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Defense = Johnson.
Speed = not really that important in terms of a bench player.
I’m with you on wanting Fuld up over Hoff right now, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Pick your reason
Just bring him up. I doubt the spark can be recaptured but damn it was good when he was up. Speed off the bench does help but even better speed leading off.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Heilman
Just stuck a dagger in our heart tonight. Dempster, other than getting back into some game shape for his next start, was worthless.
We’re not going to win all of them, but it is disappointing to come back from 4-0 and 6-3 deficits and watch one pitcher really hose us.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Underpants double
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
When Oswalt left
before getting through the 2nd inning I figured it was our game, Didn’t think Dempster would suck as bad as he did, probably should have made a start in AAA first.
As I said
above I think if Lilly was not placed on the DL, he would have. I guess they figured that there was nobody better at Triple A that would give them a better chance to win this game.
"When two Whales Fight, many Shrimp Die" - Korean Proverb
by TheRiot Police on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Dempster is the very definition of mediocre.
We can’t expect anything more than 6 or 7 IP, and 4 or 5 runs. Last year was an his career year.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
how about
sticking up for a fellow canuck?
Oh and where in Canada are you?
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
by cdnsportnic on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yeah, kinda
but at the Cubs, not at this fine Canadians, who now ask that I have a visa to enter their country… wait… Pounding. Sand.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
are you
from Mexico? Sorry about that. Not to get into politics, but that was a stupid move on our part :(
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
by cdnsportnic on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
West Coast.
Victoria. Home of Rich Harden.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Seeing Demp for what he is...
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
props
I’m from Montreal originally, now living in Calgary.
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
by cdnsportnic on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Dodgers have runners at the corners.
Not sure how many are out, though.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
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I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So I went over 5000 comments tonight.
Hooray for me. Do I get a watch or something?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
You get 20 BCB points
Redeemable in the BCB Store
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Handshake and a smile
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
More bullpen fail
11-6
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Okay ... now the game is really over.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
Careful.
You’ll get called a troll. ;)
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
one more arm in the bullpen would be nice
he is please Jim get er done.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
This is mostly a staff-wide failure tonight
Granted, Heilman hurts you more than helps you with inherited runners, but the pitching has been awful overall tonight.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
agree, Im thinking more about tiring out the few
dependable arms we have down there.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
had to feed my son, looked at the current score and thought I'd call it a night.
better luck next night.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Back to AAA for the shark
He’s not ready. Send him down and train him to be a starter or reliever. We’re not doing him any good the way he’s being used.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Consider the situation.
He pitched well yesterday, 2 innings.
Maybe he’s tired?
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
I don't care if this game is over or not..
This ump is squeezing the Shark.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions
as in squeezing the strike zone.
Proofread fail there … big-time.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't squeeze teh Sharkmin?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Like I said, I've had a rough go of it tonight.
Just about every kind of fail you can think of here.
Reply fail, typing fail, proofread fail.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
My advice to you is to start drinking heavily
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Sorry, I'm not a heavy drinker.
I only drink in moderation.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Thus the "start"
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn down the advice.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Pitchers with ERA's close to 6.00
Do not get the benefit of a wide strike zone.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Crap
Shark is terrible.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
And the Shark is getting knocked all over the yard
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Another draft failure
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Too soon to conclude that
although it’s not looking great so far. We seriously need to send him to AAA and decide whether to have him start or relieve, and stick to it.
For the $$$ he is, but still has some time to develop something.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Seriously!?
He’s been out of college 2 years? Do you understand how baseball players develop?
by Mike Martin on Jul 28, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Evidently not.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
I have to agree
I took a look at the list of players who have made the majors in his draft class, its quite a short list.
Hopefully he will
He has offered at any time in the five-year period to give the [signing bonus] money back. He wanted to make everything clear that there wasn’t any turning back," Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Too early to tell
This is only his third year of pro ball. I’m not ready to call him a failure. But the Cubs aren’t doing him any favos with the way he’s been used. Is he a starter or reliever? They can’t decide.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Dodgers fail to score.
0-0 bottom 6.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
Man the Dodgers suck with men in scoring position tonight
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Really don't understand why Shark got called up
he’s really not ready for the big leagues yet…
why commit all that money to him and then not give him the time he needs to actually be what you thought he was?
Tell people to stay off the DL
Then we can develop him.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
The numbers he put up got him promoted pretty quickly
When you consider what he gave us down the stretch last year, I can’t say it was a bad call. They really needed to get more time out of him in Iowa this year. That’s for certain. Hindsight’s always 20/20.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
it's not always hindsight.
There were plenty of us who didn’t want Shark called up when he was, and before he threw a pitch
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
no one would give a damn
about his and medicore stuff without Notre Dame
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
the answer is who resides in the front office
This off-season, and season has been one bad roster decision after another.
Also, Hendry committed all that money, and the NTC, so he has to try and prove it was a good decision to do it,
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
On to the bottom of the 9th
We need a 5-run homer from Sori!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I'll take a six-run home run.
Win the game in nine.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Those are awesome
I used to hit them all the time when I played.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Did you play at a high level?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
alright cubbies 5+ runs this inning
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5?
We are going to win this! I want 7!
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Cajan man says
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by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 28, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
Len brings up a good point.
Not just for the long-term, but the short-term as well . . . this game almost promises the Cubs a REALLY good shot at wins the next two days. Who will Cooper have out of the pen, the bat boys?
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
He'll call his own number
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Good point
This was still an ugly loss. But if the Cards lose tonight or the Cards drop some games after tonight, who cares if we lost this one game?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I care. Every game counts
It’s not the end of the world, but this was a winnable game, until our pitching imploded over and over again
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Every game is winnable before it starts
Maybe it’s the headache, but I’m on a rare optimistic night. Stop crapping on it.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
well blou will be here any minute
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Looks like he's going to get eaten by a bear
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
he sees Vick coming after him
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
woo valverdes in
how bout some more crappy pitching
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
Boy, that was tagged.
And people will still say Dome sucked for lining out hard.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Sounds like someone has been overserved
wow. loud drunks. way to disprove the image of wrigley, guys.
Drunks are the worst thing about any sporting event
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They are all worthless IMO
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Did you feel like a sorority girl afterward?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You can never disprove it
Too many people hate the Cubs for no good reason for that to change.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Oh, please.
You ever been to a stadium other than Wrigley? There are drunk people at every sporting event in the entire country.
sure there are
but every sporting venue isn’t label a giant beer garden where no one cares about the game, are they?
all due respect, but it's 11-6 in the ninth inning
it’s been a long game, and not a good one for the Cubs. I’d be drinking too. It’s not near the offense you want to make it
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Not St. Louis
They are the most moral, knowlegable, beautiful, nice, hungry, strong, funny, crazy fans in baseball.
by Mike Martin on Jul 28, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot "best"
Unlike them.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Nah, those righteous St. Louis fans are God's gift to baseball
Now excuse me while I go vomit.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
and dont boo people
not even manny or theodore roosevelt
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well there's something
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Valverde?
Just plain dumb. Why use your closer with a five run lead? He pitched two innings last night and again tonight. Might not be able to use him tomorrow.
Look at Lou. Who didn’t pitch tonight? Marmol and Gregg. Yes, we’re losing, but look longer term. They’re ready for tomorrow. The Astros bullpen is shot.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Who else does Cooper have left?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Meh, you got him up anyways.
And you need a lefty for tomorrow . . . not terrible by Cooper, but not desirable either.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
And here I was, hoping Marmol could have come in instead of Heilman.
I have been to five Cubs games in my lifetime.
The Cubs' record in those games: 5 wins, 0 losses.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably just gas
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Another walk
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Always acts like an idiot
Someone needs to charge the mound on Valverde.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I SAY WE BEAN HIM TOMORROW IF HE DOES
HES DISREPECTING THE GAME
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope we grind this guy for 35+ pitches.
6 runs would be even better
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Late game rally!
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Z on deck, awesome
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Z's on deck!
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Intentional pass for Holliday...
Ludwick up…
by Mike Martin on Jul 28, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Z in the on-deck circle?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Would you guys give Lou a rest
Sometimes it doesn’t matter what he does, people are just douchebags
by bilbosbuttons on Jul 28, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
and he's just not a very good manager
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not?
He’s managed us to 2 division titles…managed us back into first this year,
But you know, your SO right, what was I thinking?!
Go take a midol
by bilbosbuttons on Jul 28, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
or the talent got us the division titles
and he managed us to an 0-6 record in the playoffs.
Sorry, I know it gets your panties in a bunch, but I don’t believe he’s a very good manager. I think the team has won quite a few games in spite of his decisions, thanks to an arseload of talent
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he put the teams together
Him and hendry…that’s right, I said it. I give hendry CREDIT, also.
No, it doesn’t get my panties in a bunch. It does make me question your knowledge though
by bilbosbuttons on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup - that was definitely the time for a Midol.
Mention post-season records in the post-season, m’kay?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 29, 2009 2:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not a very good manager
While I don’t think Lou belongs in Cooperstown, I take offense to that statement. You don’t accumulate the amount of managerial wins that Lou Piniella has by being “not a very good manager.” He managed a major World Series upset, managed the Mariners to a 116-win season and let’s not forget the 2008 Cubs. Sure he didn’t have postseason success with the 2001 Mariners or 2008 Cubs, but to say he’s not a very good manager sells him short. He is very good. He’s just not great.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
He WAS a good manager
largely in a different time when his hard ass style and use em up style of dealing with pitchers worked. He has NOT been a good manager for the Cubs. As always I remind I came to this conclusion in April of LAST year after a game in Philly that opened my eyes. I say this because I did give him the benefit of the doubt the first season and no winning 97 games last year did NOT change my view that he was a bad manager. My mantra since the game in Philly is that the Cubs can win DESPITE Lou not because of him but a game like tonight ( and last night} bring out the worst of his manage for the moment and damn the next inning style.
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by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
This guy at the plate is pretty good.
Let’s see him on base, huh?
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Aram missed a juicy one
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Well, this will be fun.
3-Run tater would make a loss very palatable, at least :-)
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
No
A loss is a loss. Nothing makes this one palatable. Not when you come back from 4 and three run deficits and piss it all away.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Before this game started, did you think the Cubs had a better than 50% chance to win?
Considering the starters, situation, etc? I don’t think a rational baseball fan would.
Some you win, some you lose. It is one game out of 162, and it’s not like they lost by one run. Go get them for the next two . . . something made EXTREMELY likely by Oswalt’s departure tonight, IMO.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
WLS Ch.7 just said "Cubs lose."
Is it over?
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Not yet...one more out
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no
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
My lips are sealed.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
it's Carlos Zambrano
you expect something different?
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Len with a truly nonsensical comment
“A walk is as good as a home run here”
No, it’s not
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
Yes, it is.
Zambrano’s run mattered as much as the next fly I squash.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
and yet, a walk scores no runs, while a homer scores three
so they aren’t in fact the same
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry, not seeing it.
How exactly does a baserunner (who could be stranded) matter MORE than a three run homer?
That’s some very interesting math
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
When you HAVE to score atleast 5 runs.
Until that homerun scores the fifth run, another baserunner is just as good.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
anybody else feel a breeze on that cut?
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
mr grand slam is behind you z
dont do it
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions
Funny you say that...
Considering your sn
by bilbosbuttons on Jul 28, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
well...
when hes sober hes cool with it
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lame
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Get 'em tomorrow.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
So Valverde did the can't see me move
They didn’t plunk Soriano, but they did do that.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
How irrelevant of him
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
That's because the only people who cared visit this blog
by Mike Martin on Jul 28, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that I cared
He was showing up Soriano, who he didn’t even strike out. That’s kinda funny.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Valverde getting all animated...
after striking out a pitcher, up by 5 runs, to end the game, is just priceless.
he really is one guy, who despite being very good
I never want to see in a Cubs uniform. He’s just a complete douchebag
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd be our jerk then
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Not even if you could dump Heilman to get him?
I’d jump on that in a heartbeat.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I'll dump Heilman for nothing
I effing hate the guy. Truly hate. I don’t want him on my team.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yikes
Did Heilman steal your wife? He’s just a pitcher.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
The truly hate was aimed at Valverde
I’d dump Heilman for nothing, because he’s a BAD pitcher.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate Valverde
I think he’s a jerk, but the guy never did anything to me personally.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Woah
I don’t particularly LIKE the guy as a pitcher… but thats really extreme and scary.
Save your hate for things that actually matter.
thanks for weighing in.
but next time, save your sanctimony for someone else
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh please
What did Valverde do to you? Steal your wife? Kill your kid? Steal your Twinkie? Please man. Let it go.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
how about you let it go
why the hell do you care one way or the other?
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
You take it way too seriously
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I don't
Too much negativity gets old.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
yeah, i think i'd have to boycot or something if the cubs got that guy.
he’s such a jackass.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 28, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a difference though.
Soriano did it in celebration. Valverde did it to show up the other team.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Of course he did
Up by five runs and shows up the other team after getting three outs in the no save situation. Considering he didn’t even face Soriano in that final AB, the move was pretty pathetic. If you’re gonna show up the other guy, at least do it right.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Exactly
Sori won the game, and Valverde ended a game already decided.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
Everyone knows Valverde is a jerk
He’s in a protected position like a closer, so he can do stuff like that without having to fear being plunked.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
I'm not saying I want someone to get hurt
But I also know the kind of player I was (hot tempered, extremely competitive) and I’m fairly certain if I were facing Valverde, I would be very tempted to have the bat “accidently” slip out of my hands, and fly towards the mound
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Valverde hasn't - and will never - win anything
It’s all about himself first. The Hawk Harrelson of the bullpen.
You sure about that?
Didn’t look like it to me. I hate that prick, so I’m not going to rewind to confirm though.
Eh - get some sleep
Got a day game tomorrow.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
not our night
But with Oswald out, I think it was a worse night for Houston
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Is it WGN tomorrow?
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Harden is a better choice in that situation then Z
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Dodgers apprently deciding to suck now in St Louis
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
valverde does the cena!
class act. just like soriano.
As stated above.
There was a difference. Soriano was celebrating, he does it all the time. I’ve seen him do it on singles.
Valverde just did it to show up Soriano.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
doesn't make it ok, the fact that he does it all the time
i dislike valverde perhaps more than any other player but i found that amusing.
by John T. Unger on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah people shouldnt be allowed to have fun
ruins the business part of MLB
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
you can't have fun by winning?
one needs to act a fool to have fun? interesting……..
by John T. Unger on Jul 28, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Big different doing it when you were up five runs
Soriano hit a walk off grand slam last night. Big difference.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
i don't see the difference
acting like a fool is acting like a fool whether it’s the jack-ass valverde or alfonso soriano.
by John T. Unger on Jul 28, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you know if soriano does it to have fun or to show up the other team?
you dont
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
my whole point is either way it’s acting like a fool. and that’s foolish.
by John T. Unger on Jul 28, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont consider it acting like a fool
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Its the way he celebrates.
Look at Braun/fielder with their swinging at each other and ducking. Or the untucking of shirts.
They’re not doing it to make the other team mad, and neither is Soriano. They’re simply celebrating with teemates.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
the fact
that soriano did it as he rounded third toward his teammates and it sounds like valverde did it facing the batter’s box…
seems a little different to me
he actually wasn't facing the batters box
and it wasn’t that blatant either – i’ve found some of his foolish celebrations more obnoxious.
by John T. Unger on Jul 28, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay stop it.
If you’re trying to say that Valverde wasn’t showing up the cubs, that’s just dumb.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Valverde's a jerk
Need I say more?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Difference is Soriano did it to celebrate himself.
Valverde did it to show up the other team. Major difference. I’m not offended, just saying.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
'Stros
I hate them more than the Cards and Crew combined. Something about them being from a cesspool in Texas I think.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
nah. i don't even care about the stros.
valverde is a complete dipshit, one of my least favorite players in the league.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 28, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
ugly pitching performance.
dempster looked absolutely lousy just throwing meatballs and heilman should not be on the roster (i’d just do a crap for crap trade with some team to simply get a new face in the pen and remove heilman). dodgers are outplaying the cardinals but have not been able to cash in. cards took the win and are likely gonna win. need to get a win tomorrow. lousy night.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
Lemme just say this again real fast
Because I think it’s a good point.
People like football better than baseball because
1) Football is more predictable. The team that is favored usually wins and there’s not as many upsets.
2) A fan can relate better to the style of play. “Man if that was me, I’d be in there ready to smash ’em and kill ’em and stomp out their guts and take no prisoners!” Baseball isn’t like that, which is probably why people say the game is boring and too long, etc..
Eh
I love football whereas I merely like baseball… but not for those reasons.
Football is pretty similar from game to game, ie penaly calls are going to be the same day to day. Baseball is so dependent on everything else, the ump the pitcher the catcher’s framing of a pitch the dimensions of the park etc.
Fair enough
My assertion was based on the fact that people are like me in that they hate surprises and unpredictability. Particularly when the wagering of currency is involved.
i think ou get upsets in football a lot too
but i don’t wager…
who saw atlanta being so good last year?
That would be a good prolonged study
to compare the number of upsets in the NFL with MLB. I was just guessing that there’s more upsets in baseball because it’s so damn difficult to successfully bet on!
Yep
Football is also more exciting, while Baseball is a slow and drawn out subjective game.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
yep
i love in football that a 10 yd gain is a 10 yd gain regardless of which league you’re in.
In baseball… everything is weird depending on even which conference you’re watching.
Neither
the DH is dumb, imho.
i think a pitcher should have to contribute to the whole game. why not have a different guy hit for a catcher who has so much else to do on defense?
Did you know that Charlie Finley actually considered that?
I recall reading where he wanted baseball to have different guys on offense and defense, like the NFL. THAT would certainly have made things different!
I hate
how an AL starting pitcher has zero accountability when it comes to “beaming” hitters.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill
I love baseball
I just like football.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
If I've said it once...
Tactics vs. Strategy
Football is tactics – a battle in stop-motion.
Baseball is strategy – a long campaign filled with (seemingly) small moves that culminate in victory or defeat.
Three hours spent watching a football game is more fulfilling or deflating, because the campaign is so short and decisive. Three hours spent watching baseball rolls up the same emotions, but on a much, much larger stage. When tactics fail in football, it’s the end of a season. When tactics fail in baseball, we’ll get ’em tomorrow.
That being said, I prefer 6 months in the sun to 4 months of shivering. Tonight’s game may not have gone the way I wanted, but at least I don’t have to stew on it for a whole week.
See you tomorrow, when it’s 0-0 again.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 29, 2009 2:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Another reason...
… compared to baseball, you don’t have to think about watching football. Does anyone ever worry about whether the defense lines up in a Nickel or a 3-4 on 2nd and 7? Not often.
People fret about all kinds of moves in a baseball game. So many more “what-ifs” and variables. . . that’s why I love it.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad you guys are responding, thanks
It’s certainly interesting to realize that I’m the exception and not the rule!
That makes no sense.
people who watch football usually worry about what defense their team is lining up in.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the casual fan...
… and for every casual fan baseball has, football has three. THAT’S why the NFL thrives, I think. It’s all about the people who just watch the games and don’t really study the games / teams.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
who are you watching games with?
everyone i watch games with is a football nerd completely fascinated by the chess match…
Baseball is a more obvious chess match...
So by that logic, all your friends are total baseball nerds, too.
Your friends are obviously all pretty die-hard fans, then, who would rather watch a game than Law And Order. It usually isn’t that way.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
No
actually I’m the closest thing to a “die hard” baseball fan… and I’m not really.
But football is way more fun than baseball. A badly officated baseball game drags for hours… football?
The NFL actually has a time limit
College football is closest because that can drag on and on since they eliminated ties.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
college football has time limits too
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Talking about all the OTs
Though I forget just how many they can get, which means it can drag on. A team should eventually win with all the OTs they get in college football. The NFL only has one OT and that’s it. I never said college football didn’t have a time limit. It’s just simply a matter of how the game is designed.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
they drag
but the OTs in college are interesting at least.
how long can you go in baseball with out scoring? after a couple OTs you have to go for 2…
Yeah
It gets interesting when neither team can score or neither team can get the two. Theoretically, these things can drag on.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Don't you just love it when I pull out technicalities?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Baseball is a thinking man's game.
Football involves thought, but it also involves grown men concussing one another repeatedly. It’s Gladiator worship half the time . .. not that it’s wrong. It’s just the way it is.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
right on
and I daresay more folks can relate to the gladiator aspect because that’s what they want out of sports. Go out there and annihilate the opponent with brute force!
didn't mean to be that general
Really what spurred this topic was me watching the Cub game tonight thinking, “Wow, if I was on the mound or at bat I’d fight those Astros tooth and nail and do all I could from letting them humiliate me at home”. Now I know you can’t have that approach in baseball and be a good player – however, in football a player can take that rage and fury and translate it into a hard hit or a savage tackle.
So I thought, “Do football players do a better job of manifesting that ‘go to war’ passion that fans have, and if so then is that why the NFL is more popular?”
I think its less that
and more the fact in baseball season I can think of lots of crap to do instead of watch a game… in the dead of winter? football on the couch seems awesome.
No, I think you make valid points.
Different people want different things out of their fandom . . . you value the constancy of good teams and bad teams for daily results.
I would too if I was a betting man!
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're just not much of a football fan
and so YOU don’t put as much thought into what’s happening on the field, and decided that’s how most people are
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I would put thought into a freakin' cricket match.
I am a serious fan of ALL sports, to obviously varying degrees. But if you don’t believe MOST of the people who might watch sports in this country aren’t just casual fans, I contend you are wrong.
Why else would Notre Dame football still have enough of a fanbase to get a 2 minute highlight on ESPN in the fall? To that end, why else would ESPN in its current format even exist?
Most sports-watching people do it casually, and simply want to be entertained. End of story.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
disagree. i find a football game completely boring.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 29, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you're misinformed
every football fan I know is much more knowledgeable about their sport than the baseball fans I know
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
If you want further proof...
When you watch the news, at LEAST 20% of people turn the channel before sports comes on, and it’s usually more. If most people were real sports fans, would the number be that high?
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
How is that proof?
So if 20% of people turn the channel when SPORTS comes on, how does that prove people are more into baseball?
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It proves there are more casual sports "fans" than people who actually study the games.
I never really contended people are more into baseball. They aren’t, and that’s obvious.
I am contending the NFL’s lead in popularity stems mostly from the casual fan. If those 20% didn’t tune out, I’d say the number of in-depth sports fans equals the casual “fan.” But that isn’t the case by a longshot.
Why do people (and mass media blowhards) say they don’t want to watch a Rays-Phillies World Series, regardless of talent. . . but if the Yankees and Cubs ever met up, it would be ratings gold? It’s all dependent on the name recognition of the CASUAL FAN.
Most people in this country are totally casual sports fans. They can’t name more than 30 players in any league, I promise you.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
But that wasn't what you claimed
you claimed that baseball fans are more into the nuances of the game than football fans are.
You’re 20% stat isn’t close to proof of that
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
All I know is, I HATE it when an MLB team that I like and is favored ends up losing
like tonight. Doesn’t seem to be that way so much in football.
I like good teams, they’re favored to win, and they usually do. I like sucky teams, they’re picked to lose, they usually do. Knowing that kind of thing before you sit down and watch helps keep me on an even keel.
Now to me, that's a perfectly legitimate reason to like football more than baseball.
Dynasties can be very fun . . . when they happen. Although the days of dynasties in any sport are short-lived with salary caps and the like…
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Short schedule
Teams in football can get hot early. Division I FBS in the NCAA seems to have figured this out by not having a playoff system. I could say it’s a legitimate reason to like college football more than MLB, but the NFL?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Also...
A short schedule makes every game an EVENT. Baseball games happen every day, so people don’t take them as seriously, in general. It bleeds over into the sport, too.
That’s a big reason why football is hugely popular. . . you tailgate, spend the whole day at the stadium . . . and you only get 8 chances a year to do it at home (usually).
by TheNextCubsVoice on Jul 28, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
LA Dodgers are overrated
they’ve played about .500 for the last 2 months, and I don’t think they’re anything to worry about.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 28, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions
every team we have a chance to meet in the playoffs are someone to worry about
this team is far from perfect.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
No team is perfect
You’d need to go 162-0 and then 11-0 in postseason to be a perfect team.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
yes
I’m not sure what your point is, but I can’t say you’re wrong
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Saying a team is far from perfect sums up every team in MLB
The most regular season wins a team ever had was 116. The 1906 Cubs and 2001 Mariners are the only teams that accomplished this. At least when the Cubs did it, they only played 154 games.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
Again, I don't understand what your point is
I was responding to a guy saying that he didn’t think the Dodgers were anything. My point was that the Cubs haven’t proved to be any better than them.
Your nonsensical speeches about what a perfect team is, aren’t relevant
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone make sense to you?
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
people who post rational thoughts do
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And my point was irrational?
I was simply pointing out a flaw in what you said. Let it go.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
there was no flaw
In fact, you were basically cementing what I said. For no reason.
I said the Cubs are far from perfect, you then demonstrated that no teams are perfect.
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have much of a problem understanding my own thoughts
which was the question
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
That was not the question
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
of course it's not rational
is HATRED of people you DO know rational? Her question also wasn’t relevant to your question, or my answer
by WanderingWanderer on Jul 28, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
if youre charlie manson
yes
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
And how many of those teams won a World Series?
Frickin’ Southsiders…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 29, 2009 2:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Those of you still here.
Cards score 6 in the 6th. 6-0 cards.
Looks like were in 2nd for tomorrow.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
bad time for the dodgers to cool off
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Are they cooling off from being hot.
Or coming back down to Earth?
Then again they have faced two really good pitchers from the Cards.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
i dont know
but its a bad time for them to lose!
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
And when a team cools off..
An 8 game lead can evaporate.
/just sayin’
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 29, 2009 2:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
well, the cardinals are also really, really good.
especially when one of their top 3 starters goes (each with an ERA under 3!)
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 29, 2009 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Wear some shorts, don some shades, crack a cool beverage
And cheer the Cubs on to victory. What more can you ask for?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 29, 2009 2:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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