Trade Rumors And Going For Six Straight: Cubs vs. Astros Preview, Tuesday 7/28, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Jul 28, 2009 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintWith three days till the trading deadline, rumors are still flying. Bruce Miles confirms two of them:
A left-handed reliever appears to top the Cubs' priority list. Two names to keep an eye on are Washington's Joe Beimel and Pittsburgh's John Grabow.
Each checks in at or near the $2 million mark in salary. The Cubs' ownership situation is still not settled, but team chairman Crane Kenney said at the winter meetings the team should have flexibility at the trade deadline to make a move.
What we don't know regarding "flexibility" is whether things have changed since the winter meetings. We also don't know how B.J. Ryan is going to throw at Iowa -- he should make his Iowa debut tonight, and likely will throw again before Friday's deadline. If he does well enough, I can see the Cubs not making a deal for a lefthander at all, figuring that Ryan could do the same things that Beimel or Grabow could do and at no cost of giving up players.
And for those of you who think you can just take a handful of prospects and trade them for a major league player, check out Rob Neyer's take on why Freddy Sanchez may not be going anywhere. So before you yell "GETITDONEJIM!" again, remember that there are many factors involved in making a major league trade, and that any and all of the rumors you hear flying, including the ones I have heard myself, may be true when they are heard, only to become dismissed an hour later. We may see a lot of action before Friday -- or none at all.
Note from last night's game: Alfonso Soriano's walkoff grand slam was the 2nd-latest walkoff slam (by innings) in Chicago baseball history. On August 8, 1980, Cliff Johnson hit a walkoff slam off the Expos' Dale Murray in the 14th inning and the Cubs beat the Expos 8-4. Note that the date on the boxscore reads May 28, 1980 -- in that pre-lights era, games were often suspended for darkness and that was one of them. Thus Johnson, who was acquired by the Cubs on June 23, 1980, gets credit for hitting a game-winning homer for them almost a month before he was actually acquired.
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Roy Oswalt used to be tough on the Cubs (and everyone else), but he's 0-1, 4.15 in two starts vs. the Cubs this year. However, he's been hot lately, with a 2.00 ERA in his last six starts. Aramis Ramirez (4 HR in 63 lifetime AB), Derrek Lee (3 HR in 55 lifetime AB) and Alfonso Soriano (3 HR in 39 lifetime AB) all have taken him deep multiple times. I think we can now say Soriano's in one of his hot streaks; since his season-low average of .223 on July 4, he is hitting .388/.431/.627 in 17 games with 4 HR and 13 RBI.
Ryan Dempster has had two good starts vs. Houston this year, totalling 13 innings with a 2.08 ERA. He has two no-decisions to show for those starts; the Cubs lost both games (April 7 and June 11) in extra innings. Dempster says his toe is fine and since this injury was not arm related, I don't expect any problems, though he may be on a pitch limit of 80-85 pitches tonight. Lance Berkman, who has homered 4 times off Dempster, is out -- so Hunter Pence (8-for-20, 1 HR) becomes Dempster's nemesis.
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Cubs don't have a winning record on GN
And they play 3 in a row now!
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
actually
17-20 to date: .459
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Let's get back to .500 after we sweep those astros
I can always hope right?
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
No stinky llama barn duty tonight?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 28, 2009 5:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I have to disagree.
I know for many people this is the only way they get to see Cubs games, but Comcast SportsNet HD is so superior to WGN HD it’s not even a contest. CSN buries ESPN HD as well. Oh well, pixel noise and compressed picture be damned, GO CUBS!
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
i thought comcast feeds were more pixelated that wgn's
maybe it’s just me
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I have never noticed any pixelation of any significance on CSN HD.
On WGN, however, any near-field motion is blocky and chock full of artifacts. Comcast also superimposes their bottom score ticker bar over the screen, it’s slightly transparent, so the true aspect ratio remains intact. WGN just takes the 16:9 image and squeezes it when they add the scoreboard bar at the bottom of the screen, resulting in a severely distorted image that more often than not happens to be at the most exciting moment in the game.
God help me, I’m a real video geek, but WGN drives me nuts.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Wow
and here I am just thankful to have a game on tv!
i don’t see any difference outside of brightness between HD and standard… other than the fact that HD seems to have a lag on audio which drives me insane
how can you not tell?
what are you watching the game on? HD is 1000 times better than SD, as long as your viewing the HD feed
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
that sucks....
can you not get it corrected at all?
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm sorry....that must really suck...
but if you look on the bright side, it’s like you have beer goggles on all the time and people you see are less ugly.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Do glasses help?
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
you lost your night vision at 16?
holy crap
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
allie...you're not halfblindcubbiegirl are you?
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh...i've asked you these questions before
lol…i thought you reminded me of someone. What’s with the two usernames?
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
i had some issues with hbcg
so i decided to change names.
and tried to do it w/o anyone noticing but most figured it out pretty fast. :-P
Witless Protection Program
Only she’s the one being protected from the witless.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
wow allie, i had no idea
i admire you for not letting that hold you down at all. :)
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Video Geek!
It’s your job. Wish you were out here to set up my theater when I finally get one.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 28, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Jimmy!
I just got home from a big sales meeting with our midwest Runco rep, so of course I’m even more technically inclined right now. How’s the weather in Cali? Predictably sunny and mild temps?
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
Hey Goodness!
Actually, it’s been kind of hot lately. At least we don’t have the humidity like back home. Predictably sunny every day though. It’s supposed to cool down later this week. It’s like 80 back in the city I see… Good night for a ball game.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Slight problem...
I dont get CSN
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
Then your mission is clear, my friend.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
I wish I could
choose to accept it…
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
Sure
I’d love to buy the HD package for Dish… too bad its obscenely expensive, would require a massive hardware upgrade and probably drive me insane!
My wife once asked me if we really need all those HD channels.
I told her in no uncertain terms that I would rather have to eat bologna sandwiches and mac-n-cheese every day than give up my HD. Once she realized HGTV and E! had HD channels, she pretty much stopped asking. :-)
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
haha...nice...i'm assuming you have directv or dish?
All i know is comcast sucks
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I currently have Comcast
but only because I rent. We just had our offer accepted on a house this week (YAY!), so perhaps very soon I won’t need Comcast. Most of the channels I enjoy the most look just fine on Comcast.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
things bad about comcast
-horrible customer service
-not as many hd channels
-tons of misleading advertisements
-compressed hd signals
-pricing is expensive if you don’t have a special deal or bundle
The only good is their cable internet connection, nothing beats it
I have comcast as well, but I would get ATT’s advanced tv if i could.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
My wife has a system
where she complains about once a year about some special promotion we don’t get because we’re only existing customers who’ve faithfully paid our bill for years, blahblahblah, and after a few minutes, they usually cut us in on the introductory pricing. You just have to ask forcefully, I guess.
But yeah, their high-speed internet kicks all forms of ass.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
touche....if only my girlfriend was more assertive...
she hates talking to customer service reps for anything. I hate doing it too…it’s like talking to a rock…a rock with a foreign accent.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Go get 'em Demp!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
settled
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I think Soriano's recent hitting ...
puts to rest the argument that he can only hit leadoff.
it is nice to see Soriano do what is best for the team and produce in the 6th spot in the order.
this does help the team in the long run, it seems…if we can only scrape together a legit lead-off hitter. Fukudome is getting close, at least from the left side
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Frankly ...
A 3-6 of Lee, Ramirez, Bradley and Soriano is pretty intimidating — even if Milton is still finding his way.
um...what about Lee?
"Brant Brown...DROPS THE BALL!!!!"
by cubswgnrocks on Jul 28, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
um...Lee mentioned.
would you prefer DLee so as to not confuse with CLee?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Before you say that...just remember that Soriano was
0-5 with three strikeouts before hitting that grandslam. I hope we see good Soriano tonight.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
would you be upset if he was 1-6 again tonight with a walkoff GS?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, you can't see him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree, i expect soriano to go 6-6 every single game with atleast 1 home run and atleast 3 RBIs
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
6 for 6 with ONLY one HR and ONLY 3 rbi? Slacker!
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
the other hits are triples and doubles, ofcourse
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
well all right then...
that’s OK.
THIS TIME :)
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
and cue logical fallacy.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 28, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally Lou made and stuck with that change and put that silly arguement to bed.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Yeah kind of a little crazy in my mind too.
He wanted to get Roberts to leadoff for us in 2008. He moved Sori for 2 games in 2008 and 2 games in early 2009, that means to me he knew he wanted Sori somewhere else. But I guess he actually had to prove to Sori that he was def hurting the team by batting him leadoff.
Not a profile in courage from Lou, but I’ll take what I can get. I’m liking it now anyway.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
GO CUBS GO!!!
Guy at bar: "Do you just like that hat or do you like Chicago?"
Me: "I'm in Love, Obsessed and Addicted to the Chicago Cubs!"
must have met her on the way to the stadium one day
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
It's pouring in STL...
not sure when it’s supposed to last til, but we need to win tonight to avoid falling into a first place tie (at best).
Go Cubs!!
All I care about is the loss column
so we’re still in good shape whatever happens
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Rain is supposed to continue in the St. Louis area until around 9pm, with some strong storms
Via weather report I just heard in the car
I'm waiting for BLou to have the final word.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
one more thought on Soriano standing at the plate in the 13th...
if the ball doesn’t get over the fence, does he even have to run to first? since the CF gave up on the ball, the Cubs won the game no matter what, so the only question was, “is it a homerun?” You could argue, breaking out into a homerun trot would have been arrogant.
So Soriano has to wait to see if the ball clears the fence to see if he has to run the bases or if he can just celebrate the victory right away. I don’t think there is any way to know for sure if a ball is hit 430 feet or 398 feet, so he waited.
Let’s not be so quick to accuse him of hot-dogging it…this time.
As for tonight: I hope he hits two homers and runs immediately both times.
Go Cubs. Give Dempster lots of run support!! Pound Lee Harvey Oswalt.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
I bet Soriano will be on base at least once tonight
With a bruise for good measure.
cosigned
The astros will throw at Soriano tonight.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
especially since Oswalt is on the mound
he’s not one to shy away from beanball wars.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither team has much of a bullpen left after last night
If it happens, it’s not gonna be on Sori’s first PA.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 28, 2009 5:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't be so quick to assume that the Astros will throw at Soriano tonight. Teams
tend to let these things fester and they don’t want to be caught up in a beanball war. If the umpires get wind of anything, they will warn thy teams before they game starts and a pitcher can get toss immediately if the umpire thinks someone is trying to get back at someone. If it happens, it will probably be later on in the season.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
have you ever hit a ball square?
You know the instant it leaves the bat. whether it is on the warning track, off the wall, the Astro OF’ers knew it too as did the pitcher.
So it was a moment to show boat—-game over…..
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Clearly you don't think enough about birds getting in the way.
I’ll bet Randy Johnson thought for sure his pitch was getting to the catcher’s mitt too.
;)
yes, I have hit a baseball & golfball square in my feeble athletic days.
I also know that a ball can tend to travel less than you think in the cooler night air. The outfielders were going to make no play on the ball anyway. That was a given as they all started to run in with their heads down the second Soriano hit it.
So if you were Soriano, what was the hurry? If the ball landed off the wall, he had no reason to run. He only had to run if it was a home run. I am not a fan of show-boating by athletes. But in this case, I am not sure if he was just being lazy and trying to get out of running the bases if the ball did not clear the fence.
Anyway, who cares about yesterday? Let’s get #6 in a row tonight!!
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Yes, I believe he still has to touch 1st base, 2nd, 3rd and home for it to be a HR.
Otherwise it would be a juniper to drunk fan to security guard to 8 to 6 to 3 put out. winning run scores on the PO. Only 1rbi.
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
If it were not a home run then wouldnt he have to safely reach first base for it to be an official end of the at-bat?
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
Interesting question
Any of our resident umps have a ruling on this? My gut says that since the ball cleared the fence in fair territory, only the lead runner has to touch home plate to end the game and the AB.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
ahhh
the question is if it doesnt clear the fence but is in play…also good to know what is needed if it does clear.
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
If it does not clear the fence, then it is a live ball
Force is on at all four bases. An outfielder could initiate an 8-5-4-3 triple play to nullify the lead runner’s score and extend the game. If any two players reach their next base safely, the game and AB still end.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
if there are less than two outs
it would be treated as a PO by the umps if he didn’t touch first base and the winning run scores, if there are two outs, then it is the end of the inning
Always, always, *always* touch the next bag before walking off
See also: Merkle, Fred.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The Cubs should have signed...
Beimel in the off-season, especially at 2 million dollars. It was sheer lunacy that not only would they likely have a single lefty in the pen, but it was going to be Neal Cotts. They correct that wrong, and I’ll feel a lot better about the stretch run.
That's exactly what I was saying.
Beimel is going to be owed less than $1 million for the rest of the year.
Only problem is he wants to go back to LA.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
There's nothing anywhere on the internet after doing a quick google search ...
…. so lets just say I’m skeptical that it’s actually done.
Harry Caray: Marshall is going back to LA to get cocaine for his injured foot.
Steve Stone: Harry, that’s Novocaine.
by Julio Zuleta's Voodoo on Jul 28, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope the report is wrong
Madison Sports radio is quoting Yahoo but I can’t find it there. Maybe I should have waited….
Tonight's Lineup
Tonight’s lineup:
Fukudome – CF
Theriot – SS
Lee – 1B
Ramirez – 3B
Bradley – RF
Soriano – LF
Fontenot – 2B
Hill – C
Dempster – P
I guess
Lou wasn’t impressed by Fox… and neither was I.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have sat Fonty for a day after the bad fundamentals last night.
the guy might need a “mental day”…something.
I hope he has a good game today. He didn’t celebrate much after the game last night. You could tell he was upset—rightly so. I hope he does everything he can to get this one over with in 8 1/2 innings.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
I would have sat Fonty for a day after the bad fundamentals last night.
the guy might need a “mental day”…something.
I hope he has a good game today. He didn’t celebrate much after the game last night. You could tell he was upset—rightly so. I hope he does everything he can to get this one over with in 8 1/2 innings.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Happy to see
Dome back in lead off.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
CAPTION: Tastes like chicken- creme...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
damn I wanted the Vikes to go through a soap opera year
And the Packer fans to knash their collective teeth
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Michael Vick is getting reinstated...I'm offically done with the NFL.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
couldn’t agree more
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
the thing with Stallworth...
as horrible a tragedy as it was, it was an accident. Michael Vick conciously knew what he was doing, that’s the difference. I think Stallworth should be reinstated.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Stallworth conciously got in a car and drove drunk.
Tweeting about the Cubs most of the time from @jmkobus
if the NFL suspended everybody who's ever driven drunk
it’d be the Replacements II
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
If the NFL suspended everybody who's ever driven drunk and taken someone's life
They would have one less player
Tweeting about the Cubs most of the time from @jmkobus
nowhere near the same
Sorry, but Michael Vick is a despicable human being in my eyes. Stallworth, yes he made a mistake, but it was an accident. He certainly didn’t want that to happen.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do I have the feeling that if Vick was caught running a goat-fighting ring
that nobody would care?
I would care.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Vick served his time
people need to just let it go.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
+1000
apparently serving 1 month for vehicular manslaughter is more acceptable
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
a decision vs. an accident
period. think what you want, you’re entitled to your opinion. But i would appreciate it if you didn’t belittle mine. thank you.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
why wasn't he brought up on murder charges then?.
drunk driving is dangerous and STUPID….but it’s not premeditated murder.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
that's not what he's being punished for
he’s being punished for the manslaughter. That is the accident I’m referring to.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
that are fabalous criminal system
at work. I think everyone with half a brain realizes getting behind the wheel when drunk can lead to a death. To call it an accident is in my opinion inaccurate
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Then all smokers should be locked up for attempted suicide.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
and all sober drivers as well.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 28, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Drunk driving is obviously despicable.
But you honestly don’t get that when someone drunk gets behind the wheel they are INTENDING to injure someone.
Vick INTENDED to kill those dogs, in horrible ways. I’m not equating humans to animals. But intention is an integral part of how the legal system determines culpability.
It’s a pretty obvious difference between those two cases.
by CubsWin!Oregon on Jul 28, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Stallworth
killed a man… Vick killed dogs.
Both are despicable acts. Both got/will be getting their due process…
I’d let both back in.. .but I don’t think I’d sign either of them as a team.
right on Allie
but I would say onlyVick got what he deserved, 2 years in prision, I’m not sure Donte did (and this from a Tennessee grad).
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
he go tless then a month in prison
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
So it's manslaughter - OK, dogfighting - not OK. Just wanted to
know where things fall.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
don't put words into my mouth
I didn’t say that at all.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
What are you saying? That Michael Vick should be banned from earning a living
in pro football for dogfighting, but it’s OK to run over someone when you are drunk? If you can reinstate guys like Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson, Vick deserves a chance to turn himself around. It’s only fair.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
If the NFL wants to reinstate Vick, that's its' business
but I want nothing to do with it. What he did I just find too despicable.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
No one is asking you to have anything to do with it. Watching pro football is
a choice. No one is holding a gun to your head. The point is that the precedent has been set. Athletes have been given second, third and fourth chances for doing things just as despicable as dogfighting. You can’t change that just because you are a dog lover. He served his time, he should be given an opportunity to make a living. What’s so sanctimonious about the NFL that they have to make value judgements on behavior? It’s a business. If an owner wants to have him on his team, he has that right.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
that is what you are implying
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Worse yet...
… the dude that stole Lance Armstrong’s bike got more time then the both of them combined.
Our legal system is lame.
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"
by AndrewJStone on Jul 28, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He did?
http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-armstrong-bikestolen
Says 90 days. Sounds about right for the crime.
Our legal system is lame, but this doesn’t seem to be an example of it.
Hm
I remember hearing about a 2 year sentence for that guy. Good to hear its not anymore b/c it was ridiculous
I'm totally wrong
The article said he got 3 years. Another person who committed the same crime to someone that wasn’t Armstrong got only 90 days.
Total fail, guys. My bad.
it's not...
now imagine if he had spent a bunch of $ on financing numerous drunk drivers and bet on how long it took for them to kill people or themselves.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets not talk about our politicians!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Being Michael Vick
resulted in his penalty and prison time to be much, much more than a normal citizen’s would have been for the same crime. I realize Vick is a figurehead for animal cruelty, but I would think that a bigger priority would be to push for bigger punishments for non-famous people who abuse animals.
Getting in the car is not an accident.
But crashing the car into, say, a river is an accident.
Swimming away and leaving the passenger to die in the car after you crash and then not telling anyone about it for hours will get you elected repeatedly to the Senate and eventually have a health care bill named after you.
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." ~William F. Buckley, Jr.
accident...why is drunk driving a crime then
people that value the lives of dogs more then humans amaze me.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
here's the small difference...
drunk driving = the driver or innocent people MAY get killed
dog fighting = a dog dies almost every time, and people gamble on it
I’m NOT valuing the life of a dog over a human, but I think you can see the difference.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
yes but even the chance that a human may be killed
by ones actions to me is greater then then death of an animal. its a matter of opinion I guess. Both are horrible I agree,
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
a human can possibly be killed
every single time you get in your car. Does that mean we should all stop driving? Look, it was a horrible mistake he made, I know, but it was an accident. Have you heard the guy’s 911 call?
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Even the chance of a human getting killed is worse than an actual death of an animal?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
that's odd.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 28, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The joy
of special interests in Washington…
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
oh please he has paid his penelty
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Yes...now all the Michael Vick fans can once again cheer him on and buy his shoes and personal line of dog shampoo.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
you really think he is going to get endorsements
I wouldn’t buy anything he endorses…its just that he has served the criminal penalty and now he should be allowed to go on with his life.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Why wouldn't you buy his stuff? Felons have the right to "go on with their lives"....
and how many of them jump right back into their previous high paying jobs when they get out of prison?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
"He could always run for mayor of DC."
Good Charlotte
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
just because I think he has the right to get on with his life
doesn’t mean I am a fan or want to be friends with the guy. There is a distinct difference to me that I guess you don’t see.
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I just think it's wrong for the NFL to reinstate him. Let him go get a real job and contribute something of worth to society.
He couldn’t seem to do that while he was playing football.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
true enough
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
What's so special about the NFL? Do they somehow have a higher
moral standing than everything else? The NFL is a business just like thousandas of other businesses. If it makes good business sense to have him in the NFL, that’s where he will be.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it's the issue of being in that position
and being a role model to children. I don’t want kids thinking what he did is ok.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Um
he served months in prision and is “conditionally reinstated” by the league.
Any kid who thinks what he’s done is okay has idiots for parents.
but mommy, michael vick did it
and he makes millions of dollars.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And he lost his big contract
spent months in prison and has been villified by every adult in a 100 mile radius.
If your kids are learning right/wrong from athletes on tv, something is wrong.
i personally think there are worst role models out there
have you seen some movie actors and actresses, musicians (chris brown), many corrupt politicians. Just because they’re on tv and in the news doesn’t mean they’re role models. So many of these arguments are so flawed.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
it's just my opinion
i’m not asking you to agree, but respecting it would be nice.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i would like to respect your comments
but they’re not very thought out.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't even want to think about Michael Vick
or what he did. I can’t stand to think about it, it bugs the hell out of me.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you need to get over it. He certainly is not nearly
worth getting yourself so worked up.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, lots of horrible people out there.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
fair enough
it’s just when his name is brought up….well let’s just say it’s an easy way to push my buttons. lol
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel your pain, buddy. Whenever I hear about some bastard
CEO spending $10,000 to buy a gold-plated toilet for his fifth home I just want to spit. I have to believe that the hottest place in hell has got to be reserved for people that take avantage of a working stiff and steal their hard earned retirement money.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point Allie
tired of the role model thing, just raise your own kids.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
So Manny shouldn't be playing too because he's a role model to La kids?
How about just raising your own kids and let the players and teams play the game.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
cheating and killing stuff are slightly different....don't you think?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Did he serve his sentence?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
And being a doctor or a policeman is not? Athletes and actors are
human beings just like everyone else. To expect them to be more morally accountable than the average Joe is just setting yourself up for a fall. Parents and teachers should be role models. These people directly affect the lives of children. To expect an athlete to be pure and chaste and then attempt to banish them when they aren’t is folly.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Jul 28, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I can, without hesitation, say that the NFL does not have a higher moral standing than everything else.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Being an NFL player doesn't count as a real job?
I can easily see Vick being reinstated, him being signed by someone like Al Davis, and then doing work to improve communities. I just don’t like the notion that you can’t contribute to society if you’re an athlete.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like the notion that Michael Vick gets to go back to the NFL and will be on ESPN
every 15 minutes a for the next 3 months.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
if he does come back...he'll be on the bench for sure at least for a while
it’s not his fault that espn only cares about ratings
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I only get Lions games. I was done with the NFL decades ago...
Quia tuum es fatum titulis discidiis, vexillinis limbis nationalis,
gloriam seriis mundialisque, nunc et in saecula saeculorum...
Amen.
vick spent 2 years either in jail or confined to his house
i think that is a pretty fair punishment for the crime. i don’t fault the NFL for suspending him, but it wouldnt be fair to vick, who has already repaid his debt to society, to then say hes done with the nfl for good
I work for the Cubs so I am really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.
Speaking as a Packer fan
I wanted him on the Vikings. Our secondary loves the pick-six, and I think he would have given them plenty of opportunities. Oh well – just have to get ’em against Tarvarez and/or Rosenfels instead.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jul 28, 2009 5:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Shouting "Let's Go Cubbies" from Calgary, AB!
Hi all – I’ve been following BCB all year and finally got around to getting a SB Nation account. Go Cubs Go!
thanks
looking forward to hanging on to 1st tonight!
glad you're hanging out, ehh.
I was in Calgary last year about this time. had a great steak dinner.
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
yeah, Alberta beef is pretty awesome
as long as it doesn’t have madcow. Are you in LA? I went to school there – best 7 years of my life! (kidding, I only took 4 1/2 years….)
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Welcome to BCB!
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
thank you
And Boiler Up fellow Big 10 fan!
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Go Hawks!!! :D
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Boiler up?
Didn’t know that was your catch phrase.
How ’bout them Hawks?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
remember how as a kid
you used to do the “honk the horn” thing with your arm whenever a big rig passed by your bus? Well do it again and say “Boiler Up!” while doing it. Now you are a Purdue fan :)
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Expect your football team to be mediocre...
Now you’re a Purde fan… :)
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
haha sorry I got you beat there...
I went to USC for school so I think I’m good for football season. But Purdue basketball is going to tear it up this year!
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
Do you guys think the umpires will issue warnings
before the game starts tonight?
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
Trade Milton Bradley! Trade Milton Bradley!
I mean can we get rid of that disgusting contract?!!!! I don’t know which acquisition was worse: A. Heilman or Bradley… make a trade for someone, someone with a pulse.. someone with a little testicular fortitude… i dont care who it is really .. im perfectly happy with Reed and Jake out in the outfield… just something, get rid of these two cancers!
please send thoughts!
must be the OBP of almost .400
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The prompt
only that fact that i want to vomit every time heilman steps onto the field.. because i know if he comes in he will allow some sort of run somehow! and bradley, come on… he was brought here to HIT and drive in runs.. not play soft toss in hopes of retooling his swing
by The Legend21 on Jul 28, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez, the team starts to gel and now lets tear them apart?
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
i actually have no problem with getting rid of heilman
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I was talking about Bradley myself.
Im not a big Heilman fan, maybe a 5-6th inning spot for him would be his spot to be useful.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
i know i know
we are finally playing well.. finally! and i’m very thankful.. now i just want to keep it going.. and i believe that without those two .. these last two weeks could continue throughout the rest of the season
by The Legend21 on Jul 28, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
trading MIlton ...
would be all but impossible. Stick with him, bench him if need be.
bench him?
you can’t bench a guy who makes 10 mil/yr…. you trade him!
by The Legend21 on Jul 28, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I think elgato's point was that he is more or less untradable right now
Maybe if he gets hot, but then why would you need to trade him?
We have faced extreme adversity this year.
And now the team is starting to finally play as a team. (getting contributions from many sources instead of just a few) Let them continue to gel and we will be on our way. It should be a good race with the cards the rest of the way.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
Look
as big a Heilman hater as anyone… but he’s been less than awful lately.
And Bradley’s hitting .375/.545/.563 over the last week.
A starting OF of RJ, Fonz, Fox… has ugly written all over it. I hope Reed has his PF flyers on…
hes just too incosistent to rely on
1 appearence he strikes out the side the next hes walking people and serving up bombs
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
fine fine
we can keep bradley.. he is finally living up to expectations… but heilman .. out of here .. bye bye … have no problem benching him whatsoever
by The Legend21 on Jul 28, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
"Look"?
Lou?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I think you should make a fanpost about this
"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko
If we Win tonight and beat their two best pitchers...
We have to think sweep no doubt…That would be amazing..lets pull this one out tonight tho!
I read that was a hoax.
Here.
This line from a movie, television show or other piece of popular culture pretty much sums up my entire personality.
Beimel & Grabow UNDER one million each
For whatever reason Bruce used their FULL salary but season is more than half over. Beimel makes 1 million
Grabow 2.3 so either would be less than a million in salary or a fraction of what it cost to dump Vizcaino ( Um Jason goes for league leading win # 13 tonight.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Marquis/Rockies favored on the road tonight. I don't bet baseball, but that one looked like a good bet
…the other way. Marquis always seem to cool off after the ASG. Why not start tonight?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Jason is in a contract year
I would not bet against him. Besides he wants to impress his future employers ( Mets).
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
we shall see, Jessica.
when are you coming to LA?
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
Yes
My annual sojourn over labor day weekend which extended by two days since I don’t have to rush back to a job now.
Want to bring the dog to Hollywood area so I can stalk him ?
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, so now im reading that the Cliff Lee to Boston reports are false.
some fool hacked into WEEI’s twitter account. Twitter is going to be the death of us all. Its taking over the world.
god can you imagine if somebody broke into Gordo's twitter
and reported a Bradley for Halladay trade or something ridiculous like that? this board would be in a frenzy
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
i think most people with half a brain on this site wouldnt believe it
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I have two!
Just not in the same jars…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
wow!
now thats what im trying to tell you people.. that would be .. well amazing! hope everyone is pulling for Demp tonight.. stay healthy buddy
by The Legend21 on Jul 28, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Has Baltimore said they wont be dealing Sherrill?
He’s the guy that we should be drooling for as far as the lefties go.
I've heard they're asking the world for Sherrill.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jul 28, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
pv
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
Let's make it 6 in a row!
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jul 28, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
Please criticize, as this is my only complete photoshop picture.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
Too many sacks of fries
Looks like
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I think he will
If the bases are empty with 2 outs.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been busy at work...
…but where exactly is this talk coming from? Do we have quotes from the Astros players? Is it just guess work based on Oswalts history?
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
just speculation from his "showboating"
during his walk off last night.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Jul 28, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
BCB has worked itself up into a frenzy over this.
I don’t think it’ll happen.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
That is a pretty good
line of thinking – go the opposite way the majority opinion is on this site
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
Exactly.
It’s sorta along the lines of mob mentality of the blogging world.
Houston used a ton of bullpen last night, they’d be stupid to do this.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
i doubt it happens tonight as well, unless the game gets out of hand.
i do expect it later in the series.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie
by buckmulligan on Jul 28, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
someone is trying to get Howry?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Just cause
The way he acted when he hit the granny. I personally don’t love it or hate it, and I wouldn’t be surprised or mad if he got one to the chest.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
As long as it’s to the mid section.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 28, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you know what i haven't seen in a while that I would love....
a batter getting hit charging the pitcher. I would think it was awesome of Soriano got beaned then charged Oswalt. Perhaps it’s just me…but it hasn’t happened in a while.
by aznsensation on Jul 28, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I almost hopes he gets beaned too...
only to see Oswalt get tossed. Leading to Houston dipping into an already-depleted bullpen early in the game, then Soriano hitting another grand slam in the later innings, leading to more showboating, repeat.
It’s like a virtuous cycle.
"yeah.... mm-hmmm... yeah.... gosh darn it!" - Ron Santo on any given WGN radio broadcast
chest? noone should get beamed in the chest or anywhere near the head!!
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
That's what I figured.
There are a number of reasons I don’t think this happens.
A. Most of the players were off the field when it happened.
B. We don’t have any quotes. You know the Chicago media asked them about it.
C. It was a walkoff homerun, I think they “get it.”
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
He will.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jul 28, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope the fans in the stands don't applaud and cheer too loud or too brashly tonight if the Cubs do something good...
that could be seen as showboating.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
You make a good point.
I could see Oswalt picking off fans left and right.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I pine for the days of straw hats and parasols as expected baseball viewing attire.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Why can't I just bring my pet goat into the ballpark?
Okay so he smells a little bit, big deal.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Parasols block the view
Worse than Merry Widow hats.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
not if they're see through!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
there's no pining in baseball
no link for reference, sorry.
"This is a game to be savored, not gulped. There's time to discuss everything between pitches or between innings." -- Bill Veeck
wow
was he working last year, cant remember
Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
I believe so
then took a leave after 2008
IIRC
he did for a while, but took a leave of absence. I knew he was sick and that it was serious, but I expect this so soon.
Wow. Respect the hell out of Jim Johnson.
Favorite player of all time: Ryne Sandberg.
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Jul 28, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Pitch a good game Demp!!!
Let’s do this Cubs!!
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
how aaron miles for derosa
its like nothing ever happened ;)
wells4roty
by jesus christos on Jul 28, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It's like taking the blue pill!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Serious money
to whomever can put DeRo’s face in that picture and make it look decent…just have to find the person with the money…
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
I'll post it tomorrw in the recap thread.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish
I was good with photoshop
I saw you in that coffee shop, breaking the fifth commandment. Congress passes these things for a reason, Lois.
It's never too soon to talk about reacquiring the Savior to all Mankind
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I would appreciate it if you wouldn't say things like that...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 28, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
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